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WE’RE DONE SAILING. -Rigging Failure on the Tayana 37- THE SURVEYOR WARNED US (Ep. 51)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 เม.ย. 2024
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In previous videos, we searched for our perfect boat. Just a few weeks ago in mid-February, we found her. This week we're on our 1976 Tayana 37 (CT37) Taiwanese build designed by Robert Perry. She boasts a teak deck, roomy quarters, and needs a lot of work, and the projects have begun! sirenwilliams@thesirenslog.com
This week, we're leaving Port Canaveral, heading through the barge canal, getting back in the Indian River into the ICW, and heading south to Melbourne where we stop for fuel, and then anchoring up in Wabasso for the night. We're traveling with large dog, a small tender, an iffy outboard, and our rigging can now be sailed.
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Awhh That is so very sweet! Thank you so so much. ❤️
What a. Sight boat entering slip, dog jumps off boat, red haired woman bounding off boat,running down the dock, man on boat careening into the dock. What an amazing sight!
Total shit show honestly. lol 😂
If your backstay broke in what looks like calm conditions then it's a blessing. In heaver weather you could have lost the mast. So now you know the rig is basically unusable . So now your attention is on making sure the motor is reliable.
Well that’s was always the mentality- we were supposed to sail at all! I was hoping to only sail if we ended up in a bad situation somewhere if the motor quit working and we needed to use the sails for quick navigation to avoid collision or something, but….
He's right. Better to find out you can't rely on the sails as a backup, than think you can, and make decisions on that incorrect assumption.
Well I had hoped they would ONLY be used in an emergency situation like to avoid collision. The surveyor had already told us in big bold letters not to sail the boat AT ALL. So… we knew. But Hal knew better. 🤷♀️ lol Men.
the dog sitting on the side cracking up looking at a cleat
Love you guys and your voyage!! Stay the course!
Thanks Peg!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
That is a spirited woman, my friend😊
You guys went right by me. I’m about 10-15 minutes from Melbourne harbor!! You’re accomplishing my dreams!! Since about 8 years old (I’m an antique) I have wanted to sail from J’ville to Pensacola or vice versa. Stay the course my friends!! My favorite TH-camrs on the water!!
Awhhh thank you so much!!!
Terrific video! Good call testing some sails. Hal is right that in a pinch things could go from bad to worse if the backstay broke. Halyard will work or maybe there are running backstays. Hal maybe a fun episode would be to show the tools you brought knowing you can’t bring them all. Haha Bentley the unruly crew wanting off the boat. You two are great ambassadors to untie the lines and get off the dock!
Thanks Jim!! Well the surveyor urged us not the sail the boat, even in light wind. I was hoping we could avoid sailing (Hal routinely had other plans) altogether and IF we found ourselves in a dangerous situation with the engine not working, maybe we could use the sails to navigate out of that situation- ya know, to like, avoid hitting something.
@@TheSirensLog you just can’t fix stupid
It isn’t stupid to motor a boat. Sailing wasn’t my decision and I was overruled, but we aren’t stupid for motoring around the state. The boat is one of those seaworthy boats in the world- literally.
Ciao, sono Italiano , mi chiamo Walter , e la prima vota che vedo un vostro video, molto bello direi, seguirò i vostri viaggi in barca a vela , ciao complimenti . !!
Grazie mille Walter!!!!
22:02 **things to be added** need to install a hold with a lead that can attach to his collar. You never know when you will have to feather him quickly for his safety.
Another great video, showing how working together is the path to success. Sea voyages require teamwork. As you know we are sailing in Brazil, looking forward to your first ocean passage. .
Listen to the captain, pushing the limit when you can control it is better than when you need it.
Some folks here may jump on me for about what I'm about to say... I have lived on boats, in busses, in vans, off grid rv's and in big trucks as an over the road professional truck driver. The Transient lifestyle is not pet friendly in my honest opinion. It can be straight up animal cruelty in certain situations. Some folks rely heavily on their animals for love and affection... I get it. But just be aware of what the animal may want and need. A home that doesn't move may be what they need...
I totally agree. Honestly I wasn’t in favor of keeping Bentley. My cat (who I did TONS of research on cruising with over a decade ago and realized it wasn’t worth it) died a few years ago and Hal’s dog died a couple years ago and it was our chance to do our thing. Bentley was supposed to be a foster but it was SO hard finding him a home. He actually got really good once we got the boat so Hal started pushing to keep him, and I gave in. But I’ve been trying to make sure he fully understands how hard it’s going to be. People do it! But those people aren’t traveling around as they please either. It’s a whole new layer of complexity, but Hal is sure that it’ll be fine. So! For now, we’ve decided to be his forever home, BUT if I get the feeling that Bentley isn’t into this by the end of this trip, we will absolutely go back to the drawing board and find the home. I will say, though, he’s adapted VERY well and so far is enjoying it. He does have days where he can’t get off the boat and it shows. He gets moody about it, but that’s to be expected. But he loves the freedom of being able to live inside and outside as he pleases, always going to tender rides, adventuring to new places and meeting all the people and getting loads of treats off them (seriously every third person in businesses has a treat for him). It’s not perfect, but he’s happier here than he was at home. That I can’t say in honesty. We will see how the rest of the trip goes though!
@@TheSirensLog If I was in a better situation I would take Brantly in as I currently live on 4 acres in the country north of Dothan with room to run and nature to enjoy. He's a beautiful dog but my landlord is not a fan of animals.... understandably. Meanwhile I'd still love to meet up with all 3 of you at some point. I'll bring my lil' guitar and we can sing the night away! 🎸👍
Hahaha nice! And that’s the kind of home he’d enjoy im sure. Are you on our Patreon? It’s free and you can keep up with us in real time and we will eventually do Patreon meetups and stuff.
The mess would drive me crazy. we have a golden retriever at home, with a large yard to run wild in, but confined on a tiny boat, no thanks. But to each his own.
@@nufsedOh I get it! And he does shed and I imagined like, the entire boat in fur but honestly it isn’t nearly as bad as I thought! I’ll be honest, Hal is a LOT messier than Bentley. lol
Bentley is adorable! 🐾🦴
Hal beware of the wrath of a redhead ... 😅... like you didn't already know ... 🤣... and Siren, that look you gave Hal @23:58 after saying were all fresh and clean led to the bear hug @24:45 and then that look you made as he got you ... 😆... hilarious!! Hope you got fixed what needed to be so you could continue on. -- Jerry
Hahaha thank you!!!! 🙏🏼
Thanks for bringing us along with you.. good video.
Thank you so much!
Love you guys!
My wife and I bought another sailboat a little smaller then the one we sold!
Nice!!! Thank you so much for being here!
@15:00 you went right by my town. Vero Beach is a great stop if you ever come through this route again.
You just went past my boat at Harbortown Marina on the Barge Canal!
Great job filming and editing
Thank you Brian! I appreciate that! It’s tough when you’re traveling all day AND trying to stay ahead on videos. Everything is fast paced and you just slap it together so thank you! That makes me feel better about it. lol haven’t been able to fly the drone in the winds we’ve had, and my whole audio system has been down so I can’t properly record voiceovers so none of this is how I “want” it to be. lol
I wish you all the Best.
Add extra lines as backup for the shrouds and forestay in the event of a failure.
We did and then I replaced the backstay completely.
Tonic and vodka , they mix well but are very different ! Thats you two ! LOL
There is something so dramatic watching the rusted hulls and hulks of boats abandoned. You are gliding by history on that waterway and I think about people who captained those boats to the end. The music chosen is fitting. I’m hoping you can make that boat seaworthy. I look at the channel of sailing magic carpet and the work they’ve been doing for three years and I don’t think I could ever do it. They will have a perfect boat at the end that will take them around the world but the years spent sanding and fiberglass and restoring isn’t something I was ever capable. I hope your boat won’t need that level of restoration or years of life.
Thanks Beverly! Well, we have a pretty good boat to start out with, and I do know the channel but I’ll admit I don’t really watch other channels enough to know what’s going on. But I did see a clip of theirs where they looked like they had the whole interior ripped out? Was that them? We don’t have to do that, only for the chain plates. Now the chain plates will be a big and expensive job, but it should be the last time it’ll ever have to be done. Then the rigging is pricey, but that’s gotta happen. That isn’t “hard” but it’s work. Our deck is going to be the biggest job and I’m still playing with ideas. Ideally it needs to be removed completely, but the more I think about it, the more I want to just button up the teak that’s on it and redo all the seams IF we can get the sealer sponsored to us somehow- otherwise it’s too expensive and not worth it. But if I can get several more years out of this teak, why not. If I can get it to stop leaking, and rebed all the fittings, then it won’t be hurting anything. Of course, that doesn’t help the value of the boat, but we don’t care as much about that.
@@TheSirensLog it was the bulwarks rotting all the wood, even into the deck. I remember maya starting to work in the galley and found rotten sidewalls and mold. Everything was taken out and had to be fiberglassed over I saw maya change that day and she went missing from channel often and appeared so depressed. I really like your boat and am interested in your restoration and hope to see you with a strong safe boat. I love the teak also. You both have southern accents, where are you from? I like the way you guys work together on the boat. So many women are just the bikini accessory but I think you are co-captain. You also have the most beautiful hair in the sailing channel universe. I predict your channel is going to become popular. Never change from who you both are today. Authentic sailors. I do think your Akita needs a different home. Sailing in warm tropical waters is too much for his breed, too hairy. It’s a hard choice when you love them but if you find a good loving home he can be happy.
@@beverlyaslett7871Thank you, that’s all so nice to hear. Yeah I dug pretty deep into that boat before we even did the survey and we definitely have some soft spots in some places but no major rot or bad bulkheads. I’ve had to replace bulkheads before, fiberglass isn’t them in and it’s something we can do if we need to, but I don’t think. That bulkhead aft of the head is the one that scares me but I think we’re ok. It seems solid.
Yeaaaah, in deciding to keep Bentley, there’s still the question of whether or not HE enjoys it and can handle the life, and the moment we see him struggling with it, we will be back to finding him a loving home where he can run. So far he seems to enjoy it but he gets annoyed when he can’t get off the boat all day, and it’s very hard on us. He’s such a pleasure and we love him but MAN! Hahaha he’s tough. He likes the boat better than home, I know that. But I had told Hal that it would likely be impossible to circumnavigate with him and that I wouldn’t have kids if we kept him because he’s a handful enough. I couldn’t imagine having a baby or toddler and Bentley. No way. But Hal is starting to think about that more now. 😂 So we will see! Worst case scenario we just gave him the trip of his life and then he goes to his forever home. 😂
Reminds me of my earlier years, when I boldly took off from Marina Del Rey Ca in my first day as owner of a CT 41 Pilot House Ketch.. Foolishly alone to move my new boat to my new home of San Francisco!! Things went well until a squall came up in the middle of the night! 12 ft folling seas kept me up all night long!! Fortunately I able to button up in the pilot house and use the helm in there! It was all worth it when a beautiful dawn broke at sunrise in Monterey Bay with Dolphins all around the boat as i opened up to dry out. My first of many foolish adventures I would do over again in a heartbeat!! I am smiling right now as the thrill of my "bad decision" can still give me pleasure today!. Live that life kids....you only get one!!
Hahahah Sounds amazing. Yeah we had agreed not to sail the boat as the surveyor urged, but Hal insisted we’d be fine.
You're making progress but not without its challenges. Aren't old boats fun. I'm sure Hal can cobble something together to get that back stay useful. Keep the good stuff coming guys and give Bentley and treat and a pat on the head for me.
Will do!! Hahah And keep watching. I went up and pulled the old stay down and then installed a new one. Shhhh don’t tell anyone yet.
Whoosh right past the marina,just a tour of the marina
someone has impeccable editting and sound selection skills. thank you PS sad that there needs to be a doggie brig when docking
Yeah he gets tied up now everytime we dock.
Holy Cow! When I heard Hal's voice in this video, I said to myself that he sounds like the guy whose dinghy got away in Cape Canaveral..lol. By the time I had checked weather and determined that wasn't departing that morning, a fisherman had helped you guys retrieve the dinghy. I also remember your boat breezing through the Ft. Pierce North anchorage and seeing it at the Ft. Pierce City Marina...I remember because of the name, and I thought it was a very pretty boat. Anyway, thanks for the shout out and the boat cameo. Now that I know you guys are famous, I'm subscribing...lol.
Hahahaha Nice!!!! We’re happy you found us!!!! And thanks anyway on the dinghy! Glad to have you around! We’re in Key West now.
@@TheSirensLog cool. I dropped my boat off in Stuart for...wait for it...new chain plates..lol. Only Mack Yacht Services will touch IP chainplates, so I had to come 1000 miles to FL for the work.
@@damage_control_sailing hahahaa Ahhhh dang!!! Well good. Congrats on the work anyway! We sure will be glad to have ours done!
Wow,great thumbnail!
I'm glad you like it!
Mr Najees You are absolutely right about right
Great episode 😀
Thank you!!
You 3 are a great team I really enjoy the video . That boat was one of my favorite boats great lines. From the crew of R WANDA OR
Even the doggie is a land lubber sitting there scanning the shore...
Why I bought a blue water boat with variable draft and a mast I can step without a crane - like a southerly .
Without sailing you still always have the dinghy to get you out of trouble if your main engine fails.
Oh yeah? lol
…it’s a 6hp motor. That things barely carries Hal and I together. It’s not getting us out of anything. 🤣😂
far better to lose it now and jury rig than in a crisis and have to anchor in a channel or worse. my irish setter lived aboard for a long time. loved to go ashore but was happy cruising too. always waited to poop on a beach full of tourists. you can tell if the pet is unhappy or not. adjust accordingly. you are good at that. fair winds.
Thanks! So far he’s enjoying it but we will see how he fares. We are still open to finding him a home if we need to, but he seems to enjoy the boat *mostly*
Be very careful with the dog and snakes on those islands. Goid show guys.
Well I’ve spent a ton of time out on these islands and so far I’ve never seen any snakes on them at all! I’ve spent weeks out on some of the more dense ones that would have snakes if any did. That’s not to say that no one has ever seen a snake out there but 🤷♀️
SO gorgeous... you and Bentley- I think Hal called you Ashley. Bentley's your brother from another mother. 😎 This is my maiden video with y'all. I'll be lookin' fuh yuh
Hahaha Thank you!!! Happy to have you here!!
20:20 Nice IP40
i would have liked to met you all and see your boat when you were in Daytona cause i live close and i am subscribed to your channel and do enjoy following your adventures
Awhh well dang! We were there for almost a month!
The amount of abandoned boats just keeled over on the shoreline during your trip is shocking. 😮
@@officialsuburbanvamps it’s a common theme in Florida, unfortunately. Sailboats can be found cheap, people come down looking for a dream, they anchor up somewhere silly, they leave, and then their anchor drags or the boat fills with water.
@@TheSirensLog that's so sad! 😞
Riding your luck with that rig😮
We’re just trying to get it around the state so that we can do all of that work.
@@TheSirensLog Ya I’m keeping my fingers crossed 🤞it’s scary with such a draft
Sorry wrong Draught😂
Don't argue with the Captain....
I bought the boat!
@@TheSirensLog You tell em, Sirens.. TBC...
@@TheSirensLog Rename the boat to "It's mine!"
Hahahaha Well!!! I put both our names on it because Hal literally keeps it running and I’m sure he will eventually put money into it, BUT for now, I’ve sold a house, an appreciating asset for THIS! Hahaha So I’m protective of it because I’m pretty much broke now and this is what I’ve got.
@@TheSirensLog Mate, do what ur gut tells u ok, your a strong, intelligent Woman, so stand ur ground.
13:35 Hal, are you looked as though you thought 💭 mmm cigarette finally … dang she’s filming me….. smoke it like a joint.
😂Lol 😂I 😂😂😂😂 who ever thought that day would come when it’s more acceptable to smoke a joint
I was a cigarette smoker for 46 years and would not recommend to anyone; but, I do not bitch about those whom do. It was a hard habit to break. Even years later sometimes they come in my dreams
Did you hit Squid Lips? Looks like you anchored really close to it.
We didn’t. 🙃 I love Fishlips though. I lived there for like 15 years so I’ve had my fill anywhere. Hahaha good stuff.
Curious why you decided on that boat. Does seem like it needs an enormous amount of work which as you know in boating is not cheap. Truly, would like to know why that was your choice.
It was structurally good! Every boat will need new rigging eventually, every boat will need fitting rebedded on deck, the teak deck brought the price down, though we are aware it’s a huge job. As content creators, the boats uniqueness to other boats is a huge asset- not just for TH-cam, but for the content creation business I’ve owned for twenty years doing photo packages and video. Companies will pay for a backdrop like a teak deck and lots of pretty teak. It’s something they can’t easily get otherwise. So it’s easier to monetize. Of course it’ll cost more money to fix (the deck is the only expense that we wouldn’t have otherwise had) but we may get product sponsored to help rehab the deck anyway. I’ve already been working with sponsors as a competitive surfer, musician and content creator for 20 years so when we moved into more TH-cam content (the channel has been up for many years, I just disabled all the old videos I’d done for companies when we decided to do this series last year), we knew that getting product sponsored would be no issues at all? And it hasn’t been from the beginning. Of course we are still a small channel so getting $80k in FlexiTeek might be challenging 😂 but we do get a break on product quite often. It helps a LOT. Plus we get good prices on things, being in the industry, and we have great friends and resources, working in this industry, and we aren’t the type of people to hire help often. Many boat owners would hire people to do the rigging and everything but we will probably do it ourselves. Also, this is our business so everything we do is a tax write off. This all saves a lot of money others would spend. And the icing on the cake? We’re TH-camrs and people love watching people work on their boats. Videos where everything is going smoothly don’t get the views that dramatic moment and boat refits get, generally speaking.
I might add a few more things. I wanted something bigger but my budget kept dropping as some major expenses kept popping up at once so I was more limited. We’d also been looking for quite a long time and we needed to buy while we were still in our off season for work. We also needed to buy as close to home as possible. So we were limited on all accounts! This one was within the budget, in our state, and both of us could still manage work as necessary while getting the boat ready to take home. AND although this boat needed a ton of work, Hal and I both liked it. Often I find boats that I like that he finds something about it that he doesn’t like- usually something mechanical. Mechanics is his department so he has to be willing to work on it. I sold my house to buy the boat but it’ll take both of us to keep it up and going and he will contribute in time. Finding a boat we both wanted wasn’t easy and this honestly wasn’t my first choice, but we did both love it and it’ll work for a good while! Hopefully we get her fixed up and can upgrade in a few years!
@@TheSirensLog Wow that was a long thorough and thought out reply! Thank you. Sounds like you do know what you're getting into. Hope it all works out for you. Think I'm going to be switching over from owning an airplane to a catamaran soon. Always inspirational to see people taking the plunge, rather than waiting for the perfect situation. Safe travels!
And to you as well when you make the jump from air to sea!
I watch you go by house after house with empty docks, nobody lets travelers dock?
A lot of those docks are in water way too shallow for us! We’re 5’8” and need to keep a couple feet under us to account for tide and unreliable chart readings. Some people do rent out their dock! There are apps for that sort of thing, but it’s never cheap. Marinas aren’t cheap either. You’ll pay anywhere from $90-150 to be in a “cheap” marina per night, and while that doesn’t sound like much, doing it night after night would add up quick. We need every penny to put into the boat, plus Bentley can’t be on deck in new marinas or docks because he won’t stay on the boat. So being at anchor is cheaper, Bentley has more freedom, WE have more freedom, and a better view! Most cruisers prefer being at anchor, all for great reasons. It is nice to pull into a dock every once in a while and wash down the boat and clean up though.
@@TheSirensLogholy f-+& 90 to 15o a night
.......lol! Thats 3 grand a month.
rigg a temporary backstay
We did
I heard the captain say more chain, but who is the captain?
The captain wasn’t considering that there was a dock 50’ off our bow. I’m not trying to get sued! I just bought the boat. Also, though Hal is technically the captain, I sold my house to buy the boat, and it’s been my goal for many many years, and I also have a lot of experience here, and more than Hal when it comes to smaller sailboats. So we do go back and forth when making decisions because there are some things I’m right about and obviously some things he’s right about. I do listen to Hal, but I’m also not afraid to question his decisions from time to time. I’m not going to sit here and name every time he’s messed up, but there are little things I’ve learned the hard way on in my teens living on sailboats and I’m done making those mistakes! lol
Hey Captain. It’s time to trim that straggly beard!
I get in trouble if I say anything!
This was a really bad boat to buy. Should just cut your losses. Don't throw good money after bad.
Depends who is buying it. For someone new to boats who doesn’t know anything about these builds, I’d say it’s a terrible buy! But we know exactly what we bought and literally looked for it.
@@TheSirensLog so if you are such pros why did you use the sails even if you know it would not last even in calm conditions.
I sense you two have the Dunning-Kruger syndrome . No offense, I am honestly worried that you get in more serious trouble with your view of the reality
I actually insisted that we not sail.
Large dog on boat, no place to poop. Bad idea.
He definitely needs a bigger piece of green matting.😲
He poops and pees on it just fine. He also gets off the boat daily.
Yeah I looked at all the spots and measured out the biggest we could really get and then Hal stole the spot I was going to use and put dive tanks there. So I had to move the matting to the side which turned out better! It can easily be washed overboard from where it sits, and it’s between portlites, so in that regard it’s the perfect size logistically. I “knew” it was too small too but he’s proved me kinda wrong. 😑 lol He pees on it perfectly and he has a habit of walking and pooping at the same time so…. Sometimes the poop gets off the matting but it’s still on there and contained to that little area so it works! It’s actually good because he’s proved he can work with a much smaller space than we imagined!
Plenty of content
So done with sailing, moving to a Camper?
At least thx for the piece of 8:16 🤭🤭🤭
FYI you shouldn't be arguing about mooring chain length. It's a no-brainer.
It should be a no-brainer. That’s why I was confused about why we’d be letting out more. He told me after that he wanted more out to help it set, then he wanted to pull it back in.
And no, not moving to a camper. Watch the video!
Ralph Kramden and wife Alice on a boat
I guess Hal was right. Nobody sails to Alabama
No
Hi there, just getting into your vlogs. (old man 69 uk 30ft $4000 yacht) Loved the comments about your Buttocks etc so had another look!😁😁 cannot see the problem? but yeh, Hal smoking? why not. the boating is an Adventure! enjoy it lol
Hahah Thanks! Hahahah
29:00 that’s future Hal and your problem AND it’s not even a problem unless it happens. Stop manifesting unease
Its "INTRAcoastal" not "INTERcoastal"
That is correct. We are well aware of that. However, when spoken, in this part of the country we have accents and that accent leads all of down here to say “Innercoastal” but it doesn’t mean we don’t know how to spell it.
Not to be confused with inter course.
Shes pretty bossy
And what are you?
Here let me fix that for you, “Our hostess is beautiful and assertive…”
@@RicCross perspective? 🤷♀️ I just don’t wanna see my boat get ruined or get sued for hitting a dock. lol I literally sold my house to have the money to buy the thing, I’ll admit I’m a little protective.
@@TheSirensLog I get where Hal is coming from, men hear “Don’t touch that!” and figure “Well, if I poke it with a stick, it’s not really touching it…” Y’all are fun to watch, thanks for taking us along.
Hahahahah How right you are!!!!
Uncle Joe ! Vote Biden if you love the ocean. Signed Navy Diver
Vote Papa Trump if you like to eat and not be at war.
@@haltarpley9237 You forget the empty grocery stores when Trump was president ????????
@@faircompetition1203 I remember making the most money I've ever made in my life. I remember gas prices falling. I remember no wars. It was the most profitable and peaceful time of my adult life.
Blue your out of your mind 🤣 only a tard would vote for that mindless old man.
Good luck with women bad luck with this boat….. You can’t have it all😂😂😂😂