Why Arcane's Fight Scenes Are Superior

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  • @mlem87
    @mlem87 ปีที่แล้ว +1241

    Okay, I'll rewatch Arcane again

    • @daylnroegner6744
      @daylnroegner6744 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Rewatched it about 3 times lol

    • @zigedelic3909
      @zigedelic3909 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@daylnroegner6744 I've seen the whole thing 3 times, but I've watched the first 3 way more. I made it my mission to show as many people as I could the first 3 when it came out because I was that impressed and I *knew* that if I just told people to watch the LoL show instead of showing them, they'd never believe me that it's actually really good.

    • @אלוןקינן-ת7י
      @אלוןקינן-ת7י ปีที่แล้ว +6

      (Again)

    • @markfreenick
      @markfreenick ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@daylnroegner6744i did it 5 times)

    • @Hwelhos
      @Hwelhos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same, even tho ive alr watched it thousands of times

  • @AstrodeBastro
    @AstrodeBastro ปีที่แล้ว +974

    After Vi gets her arm fucked up in Ep 3, she begins every fight for the rest of the show by rolling that shoulder. Another neat detail that reminds you she’s tough as shit but not invincible.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +143

      Great catch!

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +128

      The animators KNOW their boxing/combat physics like no animator I've ever seen

    • @sassyviking6003
      @sassyviking6003 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      ​@@o-wolfyea, I definitely don't, but I watched a video of a professional boxer going over arcane's fight scenes. It was awesome to see how he would break down the actual competent technique displayed in just about every scene. Basically his only complaint was Vi over commits and leaves herself open too much which honestly is just her character and she show has her punished for it on multiple occasions.
      I've said it before but I'll never stop saying it. A league of legends tv show had absolutely no right to be this good.

    • @giin97
      @giin97 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      In a similar vein, a couple things follow like that in the MCU. Tony injured his arm escaping the cave, for several movies after he massages and flexes that arm absently at times. Old stiff injury.

    • @Msvalexvalex
      @Msvalexvalex ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ​@@sassyviking6003like Ekko said, she blocks with her face 😅

  • @cassieteschner4619
    @cassieteschner4619 ปีที่แล้ว +594

    Echo's use of the stopwatch is also a really creative allusion to his time travel abilities in the games.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Yeah I've heard that's his ult in the game. Super cool way to do fan-service for League players without leaving the rest of the audiene behind.

    • @matthewpelletier6900
      @matthewpelletier6900 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      All of the scenes where we see the characters use their game abilities made me pop really hard. None as much as Vi using her passive.

    • @mkmc94
      @mkmc94 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      His name is Ekko not Echo say it right !

    • @AarambhaB
      @AarambhaB ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@matthewpelletier6900 It's even more impressive that there was an explanation to her shield and it doesn't come out of nowhere. Jayce in ep 4 says that the gloves are for miners, so the shield makes sense as there will be falling rocks.

    • @matthewpelletier6900
      @matthewpelletier6900 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AarambhaB I guess that makes sense, though I never thought of it that way. I always thought that the barrier was a manifestation of Vi's need for defense, created by the magic stone that powers the gloves. A miner about to be crushed could probably make one as well, but it's less of an intended function of the gloves and more an accidental bonus of the magic. Different paths, same destination.

  • @o-wolf
    @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +209

    I love how the show took the game Ekko that was just a scrappy determined wizkid &turned him into one of the fastest most skilled/dangerous combatants in piltover because it actually made perfect sense that the kid who is Jynxes polar opposite &who literally raised himself &look after others HAD to be an absolute badass all rounder in order to survive

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Ekko is such a great character. I wish all side characters had as much thought put into them as he does.

    • @mkmc94
      @mkmc94 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@master_samwise and i wish Ekko had more screentime he barely got any but he shines every seconds he his on the screen !

  • @lygarix
    @lygarix ปีที่แล้ว +368

    If somebody says: Jinx killed Silco, i like to respont with: No, Powder killed Silco, so Jinx killed Powder. Thats what i like to think about the scene, the last remaining of powder saving Vi, but than Jinx is completed by Silcos last words, so Jinx takes her seat and shows us, there is no powder left

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Interesting take. I had not thought of that before but it definitely makes sense!

    • @expressodepresso5909
      @expressodepresso5909 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I'd argue that Jinx is sparadic and acts upon instinct. In the moment of distress she acted on instinct. Silco has gun, Silco shoots. Gun is danger, Jinx wants danger gone, Jinx shoots the source

    • @lygarix
      @lygarix ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@expressodepresso5909 this could also be an opportunity. I realy like how moments like this are 'in the eye of the beholder' everyone could have a differend opinion about this scene. I love to disguss Things like this, of cause who is 'wrong' and who is 'right' is something, that just the Showrunners know, if they even know.

    • @mkmc94
      @mkmc94 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@expressodepresso5909 No Jinx is not as maniac as people think she's. She acted on instinct but it was not just random she shot to kill Silco it was because he was about to kill her sister.

    • @HanakoSeishin
      @HanakoSeishin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It was pointed out in this very video how Jinx tends to get lost in battle frenzy and disregard allies. With this in mind it makes perfect sense if she shot Silco just on instinct.

  • @wherethetatosat
    @wherethetatosat ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I remember watching Jinx vs Echo for the first time. I thought it sucked that we had so little to go off for Echo. And the fight scene filled in all the gaps. Without a single line of dialogue spoken.

  • @cableman
    @cableman ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Two things I disagree with
    One, Jinx didn't blow herself up on the bridge because she is destructive and knew she would live. It was a suicidal resignation, she also remembered echo during the fight. She lost the fight and also lost the delusion that powder was gone, as she looked afraid and weak when echo beat her. That grenade could be viewed as Powder's last act before she was revived as Jinx.
    Two, Jayce has been shown throughout the show to be incredibly intelligent, absorbs info incredibly fast, and doesn't repeat mistakes. This is shown in the fight scene as to why he is able to fight.
    At 23:57 you see him get scratched and quickly finds the best solution from his position.
    At 23:00 he was attacked the same way as when he was scratched but he already thought of a way to dodge it and counterattack.
    It might not be much but it shows his intellect in a short fight scene and the rest of the fight shows his mastery of Hextech.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I can definitely see that interpretation of Jinx blowing herself up. Fair point.
      With Jace, I think his intelligence does help explain why he is good in the fight, but you need more physical training as well to be a great fighter. Muscle memory is a big deal. I love the show and can totally get past Jace being a great fighter in the scene. There is at least some explanation, as you point out. It just isn’t as earned as say Vi or Jinx being skilled in a fight as they have clearly trained and done this a lot more than Jace.

    • @cableman
      @cableman ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Eilonwy95 I completely understand, it isn't realistic. It also isn't realistic that a scientist could become a Council member and political schemer in a few weeks but I think the show just wants you to see him as able to adapt and mold insanely fast.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cableman excellent point. Like I said, it doesn’t ruin the show for me at all. It’s not a big deal

    • @markfeeer2149
      @markfeeer2149 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Although its never mentioned in the show the Jayce is a fighter. I think it is possible that he was trained before in some martial arts. Would have been nice to mention it but if you ever played LoL you assume all of them are some way fighters. Also its similar in concept as all the special abilities of the hammer/gauntlet we see them in action and they have some nice abilities like the shield that is not mentioned in the show but hextech is kinda magic and its based in the game as well.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@markfeeer2149 Right. Jace being a LOL character definitely means that he has to be able to fight. I think the point here is that just in the show it’s not exactly explained.

  • @sakurap95
    @sakurap95 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Saw this and realized, (at 7:30 in the vid) Vi screaming after defeating Sevika makes more sense when you see that no matter how many opponents Vi mows through, in every battle, both literal and metaphorical, she is always fighting an uphill battle, and then taken down by a bigger opponent just when she’s about to win. A lot of feelings in that scream.
    Plus! Someone else pointed out that after Vi injured her shoulder in episode 3, Vi always starts her fights by rolling her shoulder. Didn’t noticed that before! Such a cool detail!

  • @dgthunderer
    @dgthunderer ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I love arcane breakdowns. There's so much in this show, every scene is so incredibly deep. I love that the turning point in Vi's last fight was when she activated that shield finally using defensive measures.

    • @mrmoosetachio
      @mrmoosetachio ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty sure her only defensive maneuver in the show was also an accident lol

  • @mkraulis
    @mkraulis ปีที่แล้ว +63

    In the first episode back alley fight, Milo punches his opponent in the gut a few times. I just noticed it is the same character, but with some kind of nose prosthetic, who is similarly gut punching someone else in a back alley when Heimerdinger is first shown visiting the under city. Yet another cool callback in this series.

  • @carlosbermudez537
    @carlosbermudez537 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Arcane is an absolute masterpiece from every angle of production.

  • @X-35173
    @X-35173 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    17:08 This is also seen in the fight with Sevika in episode 5. Vi has Sev pinned down with a hand on her throat, but what makes her loosen her grip and drop her guard is being told that "Jinx" works for Silco.

  • @veganrican606
    @veganrican606 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The fights in Arcane are amazing, better than movies that shake the camera every second of the fight. Also loved seeing boxing as the fighting style of the main character.

  • @winstonstowers9121
    @winstonstowers9121 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I think it’s also important to note in Jinx vs Echo him adapting to when they did this in the past and jinx not symbolises that he can move past and change his past trauma where she can’t, it controls her

  • @silvershadow3516
    @silvershadow3516 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The power fantasy wasn’t ignoring Jace’s inexperience. I highlights his foolish confidence and also shows the power of hextech weaponry even one low trained man will an Assault rifle can beat a dozen men with knives, later in the show Jace says to Silco how he was shocked at how they wouldn’t stand a chance against hextech it was a parallel of when the enforcer were slaughtered by an untrained person with shimmer and now the scientific advantage had reversed

  • @remygallardo7364
    @remygallardo7364 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I would say you nailed almost all of this except for saying that Vi was a bystander/had no role in the final conflict at the table. Her desperate pleading for Powder to win over Jinx served as an emotionally antagonistic destabilizing assault on Jinx's psyche. If Vi was truly just there as a witness then she wouldn't have been able to speak. Her direct actions, pleading with her sister, is what drove the conflict to its crescendo. Another layer of depth and weight, you might say. Psychological depth and complexity. We as an audience cheer for her because we see Powder still and are hoping for that heroic end where Vi manages to talk her sister into becoming Powder once more but by that point we've been shown plenty (more than the rule of 3s) that Powder's dead and has been for a long time, but objectively in that scenario Vi was only driving Jinx further to the brink and all it took was the click of a hammer for her to break, and Silco pulled the trigger.

    • @janbertguerrero6988
      @janbertguerrero6988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i guess it's like being told to be what you used to be, it gets too much when being repeated over and over

  • @jimalbi
    @jimalbi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how expressive the character's face and body is. All those micro-expressions make the characters extremely human and relatable. The animation of Arcane is next-level.

  • @miguelpalmaramires370
    @miguelpalmaramires370 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    can we pls not understate how amazing the Choreographie is?

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The choreography is absolutely fantastic. I don't mention it that much because, well, there's just not much to talk about when it's simply great throughout.

  • @ilshaguides
    @ilshaguides ปีที่แล้ว +18

    24:27 This isn't a mistake. Deckard is shown to be animalistic in his style - he's not a _fighter_ , he's a _predatory creature_ . The stalking showcases this. Much like a great cat, he instinctively knows his strength is up close against a frantic, panicking opponent - he can't do any damage if his prey becomes startled too early, & runs.
    So much to say, but I have written enough essays about the *_absolute masterpiece_* that is *Arcane* . ( _I mean, even the greats miss here & there, but this show is truly a masterclass from the gods showing everyone our true potential in collaborative storytelling. From the art, the world building, the detail, the script, the handling of character growth & inner dialogue being_ shown _instead of_ told, _the fleshed out characters & the 'grayness' of their psychology, & the sincerity of their motivations, and how not a drop of paint, nor a word or sound, nor a movement is superfluous_ . *Arcane* is a rarity that aces every category in a truly remarkable way ).

  • @Galeigh
    @Galeigh ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am kinda running on the theory that Arcane is a show about pairs, two sides of a coin. Vi and Jinx, Jace and Viktor, Zaun and Piltover. Every single main aspect/character of this show has its parallel that moves beside it and undergoes the same events but changes so differently it's fascinating. It's a tale of two sisters, two friends, two technologies, and two cities. That parrallel story telling only highlights the best and worst parts of each characters personalities.

  • @minerman60101
    @minerman60101 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This advise likewise applies to all of the songs in musicals: they should not be breaks from the other elements of the work, but propel them forward.

  • @blackshard641
    @blackshard641 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "And you still block with your face" makes me laugh every single time. Easily one of the funniest comebacks I've ever heard.

  • @1Xaria
    @1Xaria ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great video but I want to see if I can propose some good reason for the villainous slow approaches.
    First when the shimmer fighters are approaching Jayce, I think it is reasonable they would slow down. Not necessarily, but easily rationalized. While they seem rather monstrous, people on shimmer are shown to retain at least some rational critical thought. And while they may be used to attacking normal people or aren't phased by it, they're looking at this strange clean guy holding a giant hammer that he can only wield due to anti gravity but they don't know that.
    They may be concerned what he is capable of, 'is he on shimmer?' 'what does that hammer do?' or even just 'that hammer looks like it would hurt...' Plus they had surprise and open spaces to their advantage against the soldiers.
    As for episode 3, the one shimmer kid had several reasons for the slow walk. Throughout the fight, he was taking it slow and was entirely confident he would win. Think back to when he catches Vi mid air without looking. Given their history and I recall him being spiteful, he may have been wanting to drag it out, enjoying seeing her crawl away. But once he sees her closing the door, he rushes.
    So yeah, is that me doing the writer's work for them? I don't think so, I think that's just figuring out what they are showing without telling, perhaps charitably if anything. None of this is to disagree with you either, just my perspective on such an exceptional show.

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You make some great points and your explanations make sense.
      Which is kind of the point. When we like something as a whole, we will search for meaning and explanation in every moment, even those that seem illogical. That's not wrong; it's just human nature.
      However, I would say that the creators of Arcane have earned the benefit of the doubt my making such a great show with so much meaningful detail packed in, which contributes to our willingness to come up with charitable explanations for potential inconsistencies or plot flaws. Just like any show isn't perfect, are perceptions of them are also flawed.

  • @miguelpalmaramires370
    @miguelpalmaramires370 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    u stated some good points regarding critism and there is no need to ignore them. these are small mistakes and arcane is a great show and its fine to have flaws. we dont have to ignore or overlook them because of biasies. we can recognise them while still saying that the show is fucking amazing, because it fucking is.

  • @zacharyfreelove6101
    @zacharyfreelove6101 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I fell in love with this show and I have never even played league.

  • @gorrarz5760
    @gorrarz5760 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    another theme that the actions scenes carry, is that they are trapping us. we are cheering and are hyped to see the action but always get a punch to the guts ourselves. every portrait of violence end with a harsh realisation of the consequences. people die or get hurt.
    i remember watching the EP8 and i was like "yeah payback time" -- boom dead kid.
    EP7 "wow this looks so cool and the music is awesome" -- boom marcus dead, caitlyn hurt echo and jinx badly hurt.
    arcane is doing it again and again. and i guess thats why the action/ violence in the show is impact- and meaningful. because there are alway quite drastic consequences that change a character or the story. for the better or the worse.
    man i love this show and i hope they can keep the quality in season 2. i dont care if i have to wait till 2026 as long as the quality is the same.

    • @princeoftech7473
      @princeoftech7473 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see what you are talking about. The closest parallel I can think of to what you're describing is the nature of lightsaber duels in Star Wars movies. With the exception of Qui Gons first encounter with Darth Maul, every duel ends in a death or disfigurement.

  • @zigedelic3909
    @zigedelic3909 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    25:00 There's a reason this fight scene seems so video-gamey, it's basically a fan service scene for the people who play League of Legends. All the things that they are doing are moves they have in LoL, like the energy shield thing that Vi does. Most of the rest of the show is done in a way that people who know nothing about the game get just as much out of it as the people who do, but this scene is pure payoff for the LoL players.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Makes sense

    • @Yee-Haw_Bird
      @Yee-Haw_Bird ปีที่แล้ว +13

      THE THING!!! THEY DID THE THING!!!

    • @zigedelic3909
      @zigedelic3909 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Yee-Haw_Bird Exactly

  • @Called-to-Live
    @Called-to-Live ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, you've really just blown my mind! I just finished this show and I love it!

  • @orivalx
    @orivalx ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Caught something important. You mentioned at 22:00 "she didn't die, and maybe she knew it wouldn't kill her" but that was really the final act of "powder" before she fully became jinx. That was her "drowning" moment that silco told her about.
    The only reason she lived is because ekko hit the grenade away with the bat. (You hear it right before the explosion in the wide shot)
    And after this moment, she never has another powder "relapse" again.
    Even in the final tea party scene, she was testing Vi. She knew powder was long dead, she wanted to know if Vi would accept her as her sister, jinx. Not her sister, powder. VI, failed that test.

  • @langhorneman
    @langhorneman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man you're so insightful! So cool to have little details pointed out like this that I would never have noticed. Thanks for making this stuff!

  • @badconnection4383
    @badconnection4383 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Out of any fight I really wanna see in Season 2, It has got to be Vi versus Jinx not because of the choreography is gonna be great but because of the thematics. Season 1 ended with Jinx coming to terms with who she is and accepting that, by Season 2 she should be empowered and more malicious which is already added to her cunning and sadistic nature. Season 1 ended with Vi having to grasp with what her sister has become, and the rift that has been caused with her potentially killing her lover's mother, by Season 2 she should be angry enough to the point where she mentally separates Jinx from Powder, even though the point is that they are the same person. This will make it a lot less harder to actually fight her. On top of that, you have a fully powered up Shimmer Jinx that moves at inhuman speeds and Vi with her hextech Gautllets which can disintergrate bones.

  • @unfire
    @unfire ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The little details like Powder saying how weak she is, then in the first Firelights fight, she's rock steady holding the girls arm with the torch. Then the ending rage against the boxing machine when she still places lower than younger Vi's #1 score. THAT was character development and past character development in a snippet, showing just how strong she's become, but not even close to Vi then, let alone now.

  • @freehugzfacehugger6793
    @freehugzfacehugger6793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really interesting you just made this video. I just watched this show for the first time last week, am currently rewatching it this weel. And listened to 2 of the 4 efaps about it. I love this show

  • @HappyLittleBoozer
    @HappyLittleBoozer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    23:59 "Is that... fair? No, not really, but that's how humans work."
    I'd argue this is the only way it can be fair. Are regular customer discounts fair? Not to the person without one, but to the regular customer who earned it, they are. Except if we try to be fair and give them to both, then the regular customer didn't earn anything; is not getting what you earned fair? Saying we should treat those scenes the same way in both good movies and bad movies is like saying that we should treat someone sneaking a bottle of vodka into the building the same at a bar and at a kindergarten. You are confusing the equality of outcome - equity - with fairness, and there is no fairness in equity.
    It isn't bias to acknowledge something could've been better and accept it regardless because it doesn't impact the whole poorly.
    With that said I feel like I should add, this is some excellent analysis of those scenes. Cheers for making this video.

  • @o-wolf
    @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im surprised you missed the subtext of the Ekko v Jinx fught.. not only did she DEFINITELY have no intentions of saving herself that was a straight up suicide play.. its all in the look she gives Ekko that literally SCREAMS "let me go"
    She knows Ekko better than anyone &theyve obviously tangled before.. she knows hes the fasted kid in Zaun &would EASILY be able to get clear of the blast hence her pulling the pin &slowly rolling it out into the open giving him a chance ro get clear.. rather than clipping it to his belt which we know she is very capable of doing
    What she DOESNT account for is just how much Ekko actually loves her.. because if you listen REAL close he uses the time he could use to get clear of the blast to slap it away from her (the sharp ping right before the blast) while this ends up taking the killing brunt of the explosion off her &saving her life.. it ends up messing up his leg in the process
    If theres not a part two to their fight where Ekko loses (orobly due to not knowing Jinx is upgraded with Shimmer) and is spared by Jinx as payback for him saving her life.. WE RIOT 😤

  • @rasko125
    @rasko125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ekko and Jinx parallels scene reminded me of Obito and Kakashi fight in Naruto. How it cut back on their sparring as the kids while they rushed at each other.

  • @VGbeck22
    @VGbeck22 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im new to this channel, this video was a banger! This deserves way more views!

  • @silver9wolf6
    @silver9wolf6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They are really so good!! I'm so thankful this show exists 😁

  • @NukePower217
    @NukePower217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jayce might me inexperienced when it comes to combat, but he's shown tremendous intellect and adaptability in stressful situations. His Hextech also makes up for it by allowing him to swing the hammer lightly and still break bones on contact.

  • @saitamaonepunchman8176
    @saitamaonepunchman8176 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a scene thats stuck in my head since I watched arcane was Vi and Sevika's bar fight where Vi takes a full punch, stumbles backwards and just full tilt smacks the floor, I've looked up clips of the fight and that part specifically because it's so well done, less than 10 seconds long and it's better than frankly 99% of other entire fight scenes from other media
    really hoping the team takes their time on season 2 and even delay if they want to get that extra polish on cause I'm optimistic but even I'm worried that they wont be able to even match season 1's masterful....well, everything!

  • @Dressup_Doll
    @Dressup_Doll ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend was so disappointed that Vi and Jinx didn’t have an epic showdown in S1.
    Onto the real comment, this show blew me away. I had heard that it was good, but I didn’t quite believe it until I watched it. When I was done, I showed it to my dad, who enjoyed it.
    The characters are written so well, and I’ve found myself looking at it as an example of how to write. So many little moments hurt, especially when you rewatch it.
    It’s a fantastic show, one that I can’t stop watching. Everything about it works.
    One of my favorite scenes is the flare scene. I remember watching in stunned silence as it played out.

  • @notdante1151
    @notdante1151 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well Riot actually believe in their employees whom had poured their hearts and souls into the project. It took them 6 years to make Arcane, and you can see the amount of hard work/ dedication they poured into this project by watching Arcane Bridging the Rift "Basically behind the scene/ the journey on how they created Arcane." If Star war wasn't own by Greedy @$$ Disney the series would have been a whole lot better than what it is now.

  • @laituanhoang
    @laituanhoang ปีที่แล้ว

    action scenes in this series is a big fan service too. When all their moves are directly linked to the Game.

  • @bloonstowerdefender
    @bloonstowerdefender 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stopwatch alludes to Ekko's minor time rewinding abilities. I also only just remembered that the container that Ekko transports the orb thing with looks pretty close to Ekko's in-game like power source for his weapon

  • @cinnqminx
    @cinnqminx ปีที่แล้ว

    i need to rewatch this, it was so good and literally if we got more episodes everyone would be happy

  • @Jayfeather-cu1gc
    @Jayfeather-cu1gc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favorite details about the rematch with Sevika that I feel needs to be pointed out is that not only does Vi win by simultaneously tapping into both who she is at her core and the adaptations she's developed but that the ultimate winning move was a Hex-tech SHIELD.
    A DEFENSIVE MOVE, when one of the most defining character traits of Vi to that point is that her defense when fighting is WEAK.
    It is such a powerful fucking moment seeing this character not only learn to overcome this new world she's found herself in (where she failed to earlier), but doing so in a way that is helping her make up for her previously established flaws.
    THIS SHOW IS LITERAL PERFECTION!

  • @OqiviOrein0
    @OqiviOrein0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arcane was truly wonderful

  • @halneufmille
    @halneufmille ปีที่แล้ว

    7:20 Top notch sound design just makes those hits so real and painful

  • @madpostman
    @madpostman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great analysis! Going to watch Arcane again. ^_^

  • @brian0057
    @brian0057 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arcane has become the Deus Ex of animation.
    Every time you mention it, someone will rewatch it.

  • @darthsparkly
    @darthsparkly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this great video, pointing out everything i liked about the series and giving me insight into why i even felt so immersed in them.
    You know your stuff and how to break down stories and characters in a way that lets me understand them even better. And with so many good cuts in the editing ... really well done.
    I think that this series offers so much that could be analyzed but the fighting scenes are really the part where most of the story happens ... so yeah, good work catching onto that.
    Keep up this awesome work man it really gets me interested in all the future content you will release :)❤

  • @powerofanime1
    @powerofanime1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with all of this and would add that regardless of how perfect something seems, a little hindsight can always elevate it further: They could've added even more to Deckard vs Vi Round 2 by having us watch the former's last bit of humanity fade during it. Rather than a simple, slow menacing walk, they could have had him hesitate. They could have shown him remembering how he got his ass kicked last time he tried this and psyching himself up by looking at his hands and reminding himself that he has Shimmer on his side now. And as he fully gives in to the violent tendencies, he finally loses that bit of hesitance and grabs Vi mid-jump.
    I want to follow up from my last comment by mentioning that I really, REALLY want Twisted Fate to be involved in Season 2. His powerset continues the theme of struggling against the inevitable, and...well, I'm on the Mr. Kiramman theory train. He's got the first name, he's got the beard style, he changed his last name to his wife's, and while Mrs. Kiramman is definitely the more important of the two in Piltover's government (...was. Was more important) hiding from a shady past is a classic reason to change one's surname. And attitude. He could totally still be a card shark in private. Which could even be why his wife became interested in him as they both would be skirting respectable behavior in their drive to make money.

  • @Novbert01
    @Novbert01 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how both Sevika and Vi ends up having their left hands enhanced at the end of their second fight, like they are two sides of the same coin.

  • @littlerainy3453
    @littlerainy3453 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRO these types of videos are still coming out??? Holy. Im amazed.

  • @Zinthos.
    @Zinthos. ปีที่แล้ว

    The shield from the gauntlets also happens when Vi finally blocks with her hands (and not her face). It also makes sense as function of the gloves (designed for mining) that blocking your head it would create a shield to protect from a cave in / falling rocks.

  • @C_A_I_N_N
    @C_A_I_N_N ปีที่แล้ว

    22:10 if you ask me, i think in that moment when she realised she hadnt lost everyone from her past and that echo still cared for her AND was seemingly about to stop fighting her and at least let her go terrified her because that meant facing the trauma and that she couldnt just childishly give up on reconciling with her sister and even worse than that, what if her sister NEVER betrayed her but she just never gave her the chance to explain ruining everything. out of that fear i believe is why she not only pulled that pin but almost made sure echo saw it in plenty of time so he could run cause she just wanted to die and wanted to at least give her friend a chance to live because she was too afraid of her will to live kicking in and stopping her from blowing herself up but we hear in the moment before the grenade explodes the sound of a metal bat hitting something else made of metal.... i believe that echo seeing and understanding what was going on in an instant hit the grenade away from her and i wouldnt be suprised if she even got in between him and the grenade terrified she would end up killing him when she meant to be the one to die there and the blast blew echo into the railing and off the bridge while jinx got blasted to the ground and nearly killed which is alongside his leg and his boards condition is why he didnt go back up outta fear that he would see jinx lying there dead...

    • @C_A_I_N_N
      @C_A_I_N_N ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also when it came to jayce fighting with vi in the shimmer factory, if you ask me, the biggest part of why that happened the way it did is because it also wanted to show the sheer power of the hextech that even someone who has never fought can stand alongside seasoned warriors showing just how big of a power mix up in the world this will be when hextech starts spreading throughout the world even if EVEN THEN it is still unbelievable and too over the top admittedly in just how strong he is.

  • @Eilonwy95
    @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing show with such creative and impactful action scenes!!

  • @Whysoshort
    @Whysoshort ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My thoughts on the bridge scene is that you could see a moment of lucidity in Jinx's eyes before she set off the bomb.
    I dont think she was being manipulative, but realized if Ekko spared her she would keep hurting people and keep suffering. She wanted to die in that moment as Powder instead of living on as Jinx

    • @master_samwise
      @master_samwise  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think you're right, after thinking about it. She's only saved (if I remember correctly) because the dude whose name escapes me right now finds her and shimmers her up.

    • @Whysoshort
      @Whysoshort ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Silco. Also Ekko kicked the grenade away which probably also saved her

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WhysoshortI think he is thinking of Singed . Silco is the one who finds her so you are correct. I’m just assuming he knows Silco’s name

    • @Whysoshort
      @Whysoshort ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eilonwy95 oh yeah my bad yeah Singed

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Whysoshort oh no, you were right that Silco is the one to find her, I think. Singed is just the one to “shimmer her up.”

  • @caseyjp1
    @caseyjp1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not only did this series have no right to be THIS GOOD after most of the garbage pushed out over the last few years, but it swept the Annies, and other than House of the Dragon, is still the best series (animated or not) I've seen in a decade.
    I NEVER want to see a "live action remake" of this. This is as good as it gets.

  • @dzibanart8521
    @dzibanart8521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😢 I'm crying cause we will have to wait another year for season 2

  • @dredgen0268
    @dredgen0268 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never noticed Jinx’s tears when she fires off the rocket are Shimmer pink. Damn that’s heartbreaking

  • @KaiHarper89
    @KaiHarper89 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    At 22:00, you mention that Jinx lives through the grenade blast, but possibly missed *why* she lived through it. Also why Ekko did. The only indication you get at the time is a sound cue - a very *sharp* sound cue, at that. Ekko batted the thing away from them both - further reinforcing 'The Boy Savior', even if that did save his own skin too. I missed the sound the first three times I watched the series, and it was brought to my attention in a comment on another video. I can't not hear it now. Jinx had no intention of surviving once she had that grenade in-hand.

    • @Eilonwy95
      @Eilonwy95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is such a great catch!!

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao that was probly my comment, I was going round slapping in it the section of every single arcane related video because everyone kept saying Jinx was trying to kill Ekko in that scene (she wasn't) &that her survival was plot armour (it isn't)
      The fact that it ties DIRECTLY into Ekkos themes of being the one whos gifted at saving things/people vs Jinx being the one who is cursed to destroy people/things. coupled with his intrinsic bittersweet love for his first childhood crush..
      The fact he was fast enough to get clear &save his own skin &she knew it.. hence her rolling it out into the open so he could see &the anguished "let me go"" look she gave him as she does was just 😩

  • @ethanwalker2948
    @ethanwalker2948 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video, trying to watch action sequences in shows like the mandalorian or whatever other crap disney is regurgitating just makes me sad and confused after watching Arcane. Cant wait for season two.

  • @sheena659
    @sheena659 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your analysis of the fights here, wish I got this video recommended way earlier but I'm glad I got to watch it now. I will say though, during the fight between Jinx and Ekko on the bridge I firmly believe Jinx made the split second decision to kill herself. It's actually kinda crazy because if you've ever noticed Jinx's eye color is different from Powder's, and you can see in that scene when she is looking up at Ekko while he is about to punch her but can't bring himself to her eyes go back to Powder's original eye color signifying that Powder was still somewhere in her psyche. It's really easy to miss but that subtle visual cue really shows the attention to detail the artists had with the show. Everything about that scene like the story telling between their past and present, with it taking place on the bridge where it all started, everything was framed as Powder's final moments. Like Silco said in an early scene, she needed to let Powder die.

  • @matrixinterface
    @matrixinterface ปีที่แล้ว

    As one or two comments mention, a key part of the battle in episode 8 is that it shows that people on Shimmer are not a match for Hextech. It's not just plot armor protecting Jace, it's him winning by the strength of his technology. My only criticism of it would be that the shimmer goons kill the enforcers just a little too easily. But again that's to show that the undercity COULD win against the normal Piltover army, but can't beat Hextech.
    I would also add that I think the reason Vi even survives her fight with Sevika in episode 5 is that I think Sevika is just using her every day cyber arm, if that makes sense. She's not expecting to get in a massive brawl with one of the few people capable of beating her. Later on, she's wearing her fightin' arm! The normal one is good for playing cards and drinking, the second one we see is meant for killing people. It would make sense to have more than one. (Which makes me ponder, if she had a third one what would it be designed for? Doing the dishes? Petting puppies? Something X rated? We may never know.)
    Also, I like that Kaitlyn (Caitlyn?) shoots Sevika in the arm to save Vi. She could have just as easily killed her, but she's an enforcer and is trained to capture, not kill. It's all those little details that make it so amazing.

  • @peppersonironi7366
    @peppersonironi7366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time to go rewatch Arcane, lol!

  • @AlMcpherson79
    @AlMcpherson79 ปีที่แล้ว

    having never seen this, I'll say this: in parts it just looks like a really really good 'animation style' *tiktok filter* that works for video.
    aka like it was filmed in part using live action and just applied a post-production 'okay now lets make it look not live-action'

  • @mishan3168
    @mishan3168 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video . Want to watch arcane again

  • @Asynthetic
    @Asynthetic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope they take time making season 2 as good as first was

  • @minimumwage2169
    @minimumwage2169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you guys think ekko kicked jinx's bomb away? It actually makes sense that they both lived and ekko had leg problems after.

    • @bcmm1880
      @bcmm1880 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing to confirm it except of a vague “tink” before the explosion, though it’s very possible

  • @mayhemivory5730
    @mayhemivory5730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The youtuber schneee probably does the best Arcane analysis, highly recommend checking him out!

  • @Shythalia
    @Shythalia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Btw, Zaun's tech mixed with the questionable chemicals is called chemtech. :)

  • @destiny4bricks514
    @destiny4bricks514 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was thinking of how these look like Spiderverse fights , and how much of an impact that movie made

  • @sentienttoaster825
    @sentienttoaster825 ปีที่แล้ว

    now I know how to make a perfect story

  • @joeallen7981
    @joeallen7981 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh talk about all of Arcane. This show has the potential to surpass Avatar The Last Air Bender and even give Star Wars with it's nearly half century of dominance a run for it's money.

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It surpassed airbender after the first 3 ep chapter iml

    • @Treck533
      @Treck533 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love avatar, but Arcane’s one season has better writing, character arcs, villains, animation, music, visual storytelling, and voice acting then Avatars three seasons.

    • @princeoftech7473
      @princeoftech7473 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't go there with yall.....respectfully, just can't do it. But I see where yall are coming from, it is that good.

  • @marlonb.4017
    @marlonb.4017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All the mention of Jinx in this video made me sad

  • @Altrious
    @Altrious 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super late to the conversation but with Ekko and Jinx on the bridge I believe Jinx is just ready to kill herself to beak Ekko. We can hear Ekko bat the grenade away at the last moment before it goes off. Give it a rewatch and listen for the metal twang of the grenade being knocked away saving their lives.

  • @jacobmcdonald8911
    @jacobmcdonald8911 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A+ thank the algorithm gods for recommending your channel to me!

  • @toryplays7776
    @toryplays7776 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "And we all witnessed Jayce's . . . Physique"
    Yes, yes we did 😚

  • @judahclark3100
    @judahclark3100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I’m so tired of people saying “I don’t know anything about League so I’m not gonna watch Arcane”
    Too many people who default to the same sitcoms or crime shows that are really missing out on great stories and creative artistic work

  • @danieldosso2455
    @danieldosso2455 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't realize until recently that Haliey Stienfeld plays Vi

  • @notherbert7095
    @notherbert7095 ปีที่แล้ว

    i also really love arcanes action because it's just so realistic, i mean sure it is fiction but the characters just do what a real person would do, no hero wins and bad guy is clumsy bullshit, no everyone can do backflips and mega kicks bullshit, there are just some kids fighting with cool weapons

  • @Bell-xc8or
    @Bell-xc8or ปีที่แล้ว

    You just have to stand in awe that a gaming company produced this one. It's nice to watch something completely detached from real world propaganda. Yes Disney and Hollywood.

  • @kolerick
    @kolerick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like those analysis of the show...
    and I'm just waiting on the day some prof ask their students to write an essay about it instead of about a book, lol
    given the quality of the show, one could do worse than choosing THIS as a subject

  • @micasreynhamar6946
    @micasreynhamar6946 ปีที่แล้ว

    So honestly the fight coriografy kinda reminds me of monty's animations like that of early RWBY

  • @brainrich1358
    @brainrich1358 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is also lore about how Ekko used to have a crush on Powder when they were kids.

  • @starlarose2216
    @starlarose2216 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The type of women society needs depends on the day and age we live. Pioneers needed strong women to face hardships, trials and death across the plains, Kings and kingdoms need Queens that are wise and not hasty in judgment but merciful, to counter the balance of justice in the Kings hands.

  • @JoshuaClark-m7p
    @JoshuaClark-m7p ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video I couldn’t agree more

  • @brandonhaag52
    @brandonhaag52 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay, I’ll watch arcane a 4th time

  • @guillezav
    @guillezav ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahora mismo me estoy armando una base en rosewood, entre el lago y la estación de servicio al sur, está alejada pero no demasiado, si no muero mientras termino de limpiar la zona se va a poner bueno

  • @JosiahTNT
    @JosiahTNT ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done.

  • @ceejay1353
    @ceejay1353 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly I think the Jaycee fight makes sense and is reasonable. It is a viable strategy to pick off the weakest links first even with a heavy hitter, especially if you don't really have the range to deal with them. . I can also see why they'd slow down before attacking him. He did just go to town on a bunch of them at range, and this is a new strange weapon so it makes sense to feel out your opponent before you go in, even if you're not the most tactical minded. But it's been a while since I've seen it so take what I say with a grain of salt.

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh the big important guy with a HUGE hextech hammer is probly not someone you just bumrush.. that'd be like some goons with machetes rushing a guy with a fully loaded AR or mossberg

    • @o-wolf
      @o-wolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus even though his character Devs the weakest I do believe it's intentional (to make him the least liked) if you pay attention you realise he's not just some pampered rich Tony stark proxy.. he's a miner/engineers son.. this kids been swinging hammers HIS ENTIRE LIFE &probly even did a little mining himself to help support his moms who wasn't exactly rolling in it
      Also the hammer he wields is something he first drew as a child (you see the cartoon hero drawing he made as a kid earlier but with even more accoutrements which will come later I imagine & turn him into the Jayce we know from the game)
      So it makes sense he's so good with it.. it's his dream weapon powered by the thing that altered the course of his life.. him being able to wield it like a god makes ALOT of sense

  • @Satherian
    @Satherian ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't think I didn't notice that cut at 18:44 you sly dog

  • @HappyLittleBoozer
    @HappyLittleBoozer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:22 "Running away doesn't exactly make for a particularly exciting action scene though."
    Hard disagree. It all entirely depends on how you pull it off and it's doubly funny to me considering you're saying it right after describing an good action scene that mainly didn't reach the peak of excitement due to it's shortness. That chase could have very well been developed into an adrenaline pumping sequence (though it'd meddle too much with what is a great piece of art so I'm glad it isn't). Point being, the visceral feeling of being a hair away from death is all the same in a fight and in a hopeless escape from one. You could really consider the act of escape as a variant of a fight in that regard, as instead of fighting the opponent's martial skills with our own, we're challenging their capacity to pursue with our speed and resourcefulness based on the terrain around us, the victory condition changing from being the last one standing to whether the distance reaches zero or the trail grows cold first.

  • @757reaper
    @757reaper 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I disagree with one thing. The Ekko Jinx fight. She did spare him. Jinx she could’ve attached it anywhere to him. Instead she let him escape it and either gave up because Vi abandoned her again or it’s so important for her to be useful that she’d rather die too ensure she has the Crystal than fail Silco in this moment. IMHO I think she only believes her value is in her usefulness and and no one ever actually addresses any of her issues.

  • @TidalWavers
    @TidalWavers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos

  • @brokengirlnet
    @brokengirlnet ปีที่แล้ว

    tl:dr THIS SHIT JUST LOOKS FIRE XD

  • @lolmanthecat
    @lolmanthecat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    up until 16:20 min in it was an amazing video but your dismissiveness of Jinx's humanity and emotions makes all other comments irrelevant...
    If you remove Jinx's humanity from the story what you are left is a sad story of an ex convict watching a fascist society collapse at the hands of a lunatic she shared a past with...
    You are making her tears at the end of the show pointless.
    No tragedy, only senseless violence.

  • @Joseph1_00
    @Joseph1_00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you see a possibility for jinx and vi to reunite as sisters in a way that wouldnt ruin the story?

  • @xsomili5501
    @xsomili5501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think jayce's fight scene is understandable. With so many minions protecting the boss, how can you go straight for theboss? the minions will go towards u as u focus on the boss and then tear u apart! and why would jayce be terrified at that fight. He is confident with his hex tech and now he can finally test it out