COFFERED CEILING - Part 1 - Working Alone Is Easier Than You Think
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- In Part 1 we take a look at my signature coffered ceiling. There are many ways to build a coffer and many styles of beams. This is my "signature ceiling detail." I've done this style many times of the years and have developed a system to install this ceiling solo with perfect results. In this video we go over the perimeter band detail which works great in situations where you are installing a coffered ceiling into a recessed tray. It gives a nice "half beam" look around the perimeter and is fairly easy to execute.
0:00 Building Into A Trayed Ceiling
0:34 Installing Big Boards Solo
1:43 My Secret Sauce for This Style Coffer
3:01 Install the Band Board 1/2 Degree out of Plumb
3:57 Don't Mud The Tray Corner Bead!!!
4:44 Use Flat Material for Perfect Beam Connections
5:35 A Little Sanding Goes A Long Way!!!
6:26 A Nice Trim Detail Takes It To The Next Level
7:08 Cut & Biscuit Perimeter Band
7:55 Mark the Center of the Board for Easy Install
9:13 Installing Long Boards Solo
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You're an amazing craftsman and teacher. Your knowledge and attention to detail is outstanding. One of the best tradesman on yt imo.
No contest. Dude is on a whole other level.
Yeah for real
His communication skills are at a great tempo, at least for me. Not hurried, not slow.
Lewis is such a pro, and a great teacher. And the dude looks like he's in his 20's.
the center marks is so simple but you just dont think about it. great vid
As a fellow solo trim carpenter for many years, I get a kick out of seeing that others faced with the same challenges come up with many of the same strategies. Your ability to organize and catalog your processes in these videos is a tremendous gift to the trade. I think it would be a win-win for you and for your followers if you would compile your content into a trim carpentry DVD series, as Gary Katz has done with his door hanger book and DVD. I know I would buy such DVD's as valuable tools for training my apprentices.
Michael, as a pro you are, did Insider Carpentry nail boards directly into drywall or was his 10 inch wide boards nailed at the precise studs behind it? I asked this question, but he didn't respond.
@@lostinmyspace4910 You should nail into studs. If unavailable, adhesive can be used in some cases, provided you can come up with means of temporary clamping.
I have a ceiling just like this, done in finish grade oak. The weight of this structure is huge. There is no way screws in drywall could hold it. Well, maybe if it was made with 1/4" material....but I still doubt it.
Hey Spence, I seriously just want to say thank you for sharing your hard-earned knowledge with your audience. I recently met a young man that was wanting to learn more about carpentry, and I know that I can safely recommend your videos. It’s very rare that I watch a TH-cam guy, and I know for sure that that person loves Jesus. You’re having a genuine impact on the world, and only God will know how many mouths you feed with the knowledge you share. I hate sharing secrets with people who do the same work as me, but I know that both gifts and testimonies are meant to be shared. God bless you brother
Really appreciate that. 👊 That’s the goal. 👍
Top marks ! If you ever come to England i owe you a beer! You have made me a better carpenter!
Likewise in Scotland lol
It's amazing how much glue squeezes out with the pinch dogs. Great work as always!
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I've watched a few American carpenters showing their skills. Coming from Australia YOU are a level above these other guys. I enjoy wood work as a hobby, to see the professionalism you go about your craft, is inspiring. One of the many ideas you showed was a simple corner brace to hold up boards when working by yourself. It will help me do my ceiling sheets by myself, just a simple brace across the ceiling, then slide one end of the sheet in to hold it while I push up the other end with a T bracket. That to me was gold. I'm 75 doing reframing of a two storey house due to white ants by myself. Have little trust in tradesmen over here. I wish you every success. Thanks again, I'll revisit your channel regularly.
Thank you for a great video!
Thanks for posting this. Like the others I learn so much and I am looking forward to part2 and all the others. I love the way you said "this isn't a production house"... that speaks volumes.
You always do nice work and a great job on explaining 👍 keep up the great work
thanks for a vid today! always superb and informative and I like you talking about how you plan and methodically make things have the best results. Hope you have a good weekend and feel good! Peace
One of the best trim carpenters out there!. Well done, as usual.
Nice! And welcome back.
I need to get some pinch dogs. The 1/2 degree tip seems like it would make life easier. Looking forward to part 2
Spencer, your talent is unmatched guy
Smart, great video
Great video,thanks !!!!!!
Conferred ceiling are amazing and timeless
Great tips for working solo 👍
Always learning from you. Appreciate your attention to detail!
You are the Man. You do an excellent job on everything. You have taught me so much. I won't let anybody do work for me because you never know who's gonna bullshit you to think they're good. You seem , not big headed, & do so good. Thanks for the videos
That is why you stick the new guy in the closets first.
That way you can see what he can do, and if he sucks you aren't out a ton of material.
In the coffered ceiling project, when nailing the 10 inch boards to the wall, were you aimimg for the studs, or going directly into the drywall? It seems to me, the studs is the only way to assure no sagging and holding all the weight of the entire system. We need to not forget to give Spence a THUMBS UP. These videos take a long to to put together, set up, and explain, so the least we can do iis leave him a THUMBS UP in exchange for all this wonderful inspiring knowledge. Whether you do the job yourself, or hire a pro carpenter, we derive a lot of knowledge from these videos. THUMBS UP!!!
I appreciate the support!
Great job as always ! It's awesome that you share your tips .
I don’t know that I’ll ever install coffered ceilings. But I now know who to copy if I ever do.
Crispy! Well done, brother.
OK, subbed and bell hit. Don't leave us hanging, I want to see step two. I would have put a very small can light in each square with a dimmer, but I am not the owner. Wonderful work, thanks.
You are the best carpenter that I know.! You have helped me to improve so much , I just buy my jamb master , use ones I love it , but I have to learn how to set up and use better . Thank you so much.
What I’m doing at 1230am watching one of your bada$$ videos!
Keep killin it man!
Perfect timing I am about to start one next week
You are really the best on TH-cam and l have learned so much.
Hey my friend I am listening again as I am cutting down some kitchen pony walls and laying CDX for the Granite!
I just want to say I hv followed you for years , from the beginning ! I follow your suggestions and I went from doing tiny jobs to now as a sub contractor I work for a custom home builder finishing the inside!
Next is full craftsman style trim , windows , doors and base ! No crown on this one! These are Mill plus homes!
I own every tool I hv , I own my pretty new truck (only 30,000 on it) free and clear, I cleared out my garage , had 220 ran , new lighting plus 52” cabinet saw , planer, jointer , and big router table!
All new tools & like I said not a dime owed!
Your a great teacher plus the real deal carpenter!
Spencer ! God is Good and I know he led me right to your door step!
Keep it up! Don’t loose focus on your prize possession God gave U as a man of God!!!!
God Bless, & Thk U
Jim Duncan
Thanks Jim! Keep on keepin on brother.
Excellent work 👍🏼
Lovely work. Now I want a coffer ceiling! Great use of scrap for those corner helpers. On a project like this it can be worth it to make some holdups ie. T-struts that are tall enough to hold a piece in place while you position it.
Nice work! Love your channel!💯❤️
Genius, great tips.
Great video! I love your work, keep it up 😉
Really nice! Thanks!
Love the T-track on your miter saw wings to get those inside miter measures. Ive been researching and thinking to build my own wings but just havent had time yet. Usually i line up the miter of the piece to the edge of the miter saw base where i can hook my tape.
Awesome…I did mine all by my lonesome self…and it turned out great…
*Wel-come back*
I got to work with a phenomenal trim carpenter. He learned from someone to used glue on everything, sand every surface and ease every corner. Leave little for the painter to prep. Lots of little details you outline excellently here but they all add up to doing a really crisp job easily. I haven’t done a coffered ceiling in many years but look forward to the opportunity when it presents its self.
Was he a cabinet maker before you met him?
@@jeffshackleford3152 not that I recall, I think he apprenticed as a trim carpenter under a highly regarded builder. His overall skills weren’t that great, he could hold his own but it was pale in comparison to his finish work. It was awesome to really hone my abilities in that environment for the time I worked with him.
@@sawdustadikt979 sounds like me honestly.
I suck at everything but trim and cabinets, which is fine, because that is what I do.
I'd never heard of a pinch dog. Just finished up a huge coffered ceiling system. Pinch dogs woulda been helpful.
I would have liked this twice
You are awesome 👍😎👏
thanks
Love the tips. Waiting to see how the in-cant works.
Really great Video! thank you so much for taking the time to post this. May I ask what is the height of the tray? is it 12 inches?
Super
Just like all ways your hands making historical work again 👍💪how come no Basement?🤔
We do get some houses on slabs around here. There can be a variety of different reasons. It definitely makes my work load feel a lot smaller.
I wish I could always work alone lol
Thank You for your videos. I am planning a coffered ceiling where there is no tray. Do you have a video where you are building a ceiling to wall coffer box where there is no tray?
Wonderful work as always! Commenting to promote YT algo :)
классно!
Moisture content of the wood is vital and maintaining humidity control in the space, too. Wood shrinkage will overcome almost any joinery. Off-the-shelf 1x is notorious for size and straightness inconsistency. Did you mill the poplar from rough-sawn or S2S1E?
Lots of very good methods, your video,s are great go to stuff, thanks for your instruction. What pencil were you using?
I like .9mm with the long eraser that twists up.
Man your work is awesome. How do you even bid this?
wish you were in charlotte NC :)
Spencer, I am wanting to add a honeycomb pattern to my pan ceiling. As I watch your videos I m wondering if I need to put biscuits in it. I am using 1 x 2's. Im concerned about it expanding with house shifting and florida heat
Great video, can’t wait for part 2!
Question: do you not like the Pica pencils anymore?
I do, I have a bunch of them. I also have some other brand that has worked well also. But I can't remember what the brand is. I only use them when I need a fat lead vs my usual .09 mm.
@@InsiderCarpentry Glad to see you back, I got a lot of my ideas via your videos. Thanks in advance
Hey Spencer, as usual thanks for the excellent content.
A quick heads-up: currently your amazon store/equipment lists are just showing up as a long video review list. No tools, nothing to see or buy. Maybe this is technical issue(amazon seeing I am a Canadian IP address?) but I used to be able to view/purchase things without issue.
Thanks again!
Yeah, Amazon has been making changes to their associate program so that is how it's been showing up. Hopefully they get something more accessible soon. I do appreciate the support. There should be a tab for "idea lists". That will take you directly to the lists you are used to and away from the long video list.
Seen in a comment you have the new Dewalt biscuit jointer.
Have you tried the festoon domino ? If so what is your preference ?
I seen in one of your previous videos your array of track saws. You should get a mafell rail to use with your mafell saw. It makes a huge difference. Festool is still far superior for cutting anything at an angle though
I have a domino. Nice tool, but rarely ever use it. When I have used it, its because I needed it though. So it's worth keeping around. Generally biscuits work better for me.
Another great video.
What do you do if the tray is out of square?
Split differences. Even if one end of the tray is 1" wider, split between three sections that equals 5/16". That isn't a discernible difference to the eye and doesn't affect any of the angles.
@@InsiderCarpentry Thank you!!!
You are an incredible craftsman and a great teacher.
what size nails do you use to nail into the plasterboard?
Nice work... How tall were the ceilings?
What was that saw you used to cut the biscuit cuts ?
How do you go about locating joists?
Can I use this system with out a tray ceiling. Or should I build a perimeter beam around the room first?
Hey bud I have a question? What type of wood do you use for your squared off baseboard? I’ve been looking for something similar to what you use but haven’t had any luck.
FJ Poplar
Does your local supplier carry this finger jointed poplar off the shelf or do you have to custom order it? Out here (Reno, NV) our suppliers only carry single-board s4s stock so I imagine we're paying a lot more than if we could get the fingerjointed stuff.
I choose to work solo
Spencer what adapter do you have on your dewalt battery
Some random adapter I got on Amazon. Now I have the actual dewalt biscuit joiner.
Have you seen Richard using the dewalt 20v biscuit jointer?
I've got one also. Good tool.
Where do you buy your wood from?
Hang on a minute - How are you using a Dewalt battery in your Makita? Am I missing something lol
It's an adapter. But now dewalt has their own biscuit joiner in 20v that I would recommend.
What laser tape do you use?
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What model laser measure tool do you use?
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Anyone know what kinds of wood is this?
What do you do with holes left by pinch dogs?
I usually fill and sand them myself since they are larger.
@@InsiderCarpentry you what works best for you? Painters putty?
Do you use dogs when a stain job?
Which scaffolding do you have?
It's a regular scaffolding that I had custom welded to give me the double ladder. Works great for ceiling work.
poggers
A Dewalt battery on a Makita?
There are adapters that will convert almost any brand to another. They are great for when you have mostly migrated from one brand of cordless tools to another. Search "Dewalt to Makita battery adapter."
The Peyton manning of carpentry
Why do you say whenever when you mean to say when?
Where do you get the finger jointed poplar? I noticed you use it often.
Koetter Woodworking
Marking the center beforehand!🫠 how have I not thought of that…