@@JohnIckes-s1jthat’s awesome! I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those as a three point unit but that’s pretty neat. The wagon looks really nice as well!!!
We just ground a mixer load of ear corn with the OC-6 and 352 grinder mixer. I finally got my 66 industrial back together and needed something to torture test that so i hung that on the old 352 and found lots of sadness with the old 66. Its appearing like it needs an engine rebuild
Cool! I ended up ordering a whole replacement gun off of the electronic bay so we’ll see how that goes when it gets here. I’m sure it’ll be A-1 quality🤣
What do you think the dead varmet was? Looks like you're well on your way. I'm trying to organize nuts and bolts now, then I'll just lose the organizer.
I really like the variety of farm equipment you show, repair and use. The commentary adds a lot also. Plus my dad's people are from Terre Haute so your accent brings good memories.
You know the sheet metal replacement part will be made of Chinesium and won’t fit without 4 hours of massaging and copious amounts of animal noise…right? Seriously though can’t wait to see it in action.
I believe they are the last man standing when it comes to feed grinders. I have a 1967 John Deere 400. I used it on the first farm I worked on and bought it when it was no longer needed.
Ross is always looking where he put things, I really beleive Ross needs a few Hooters girls to be helping him keep track of things and Hooters sponsorship of this would be great advertising
Ross... another adventure with stubborn fasteners, bent metal, and rust-out repairs. Who else can make everyday frustrations as entertaining as you. Always a win to see things working again.
I definitely need one of those! Have red angus and limousine cattle here. They do the same thing your cattle do; ours bellow and carry on anytime a tractor starts around here! I was cracking up while you were cleaning out the auger from all the fossilized creatures, reminded me of dealing with my 1995 F150 i'm bringing back to life. Just pulled entire dash because an entire colony of mice decided to make a homestead in the heater assembly. Dash came out easier than I thought and its puzzling because those four legged unholy pests didn't really tear up anything except for building a resort in the duct work. Last thing I want is to get in the truck on a freezing day and have a nice toasty blast of micey matter hit me in the teeth which would be luck! Great video, can't wait to see it run/grind; I think there is a grinder around here may have to see if the people will sell it. By the way I've been burning the three brain cells I have on the 2016 F250, ill leave another comment about that! Again, great video on the grinder! I had to replace the mig gun on our PowerMig 215, I ended up buying a complete gun assembly from YesWelder off the Amazon. So far it's worked as the original and was a decent value price wise compared to cost of a Lincoln brand; they might have a gun that fits yours. I've burned almost a 30lb ish spool so far without issue so the gun quality seems ok. Just mentioned this in case Hobart want's an enormous amount for a replacement.
Ross the cattle are waiting for the human feed wagon! I bought an old bearcat grinder mixer. Formed a peice metal , to fit under the grinder. Turned the blower discharge spout 180 degrees from the dust cyclone. Had my 4010 on the grinder , feeding baled corn stalks into it by hand. Took the 15 inch core of a round bale , pushed it in. I heard the the engine slow. I smelled burned rubber. I backed off the engine returned to 1800 rpm. A year or two later i had my 4020 on the grinder. I pushed the core of a corn stalk bale into the grinder. It never slowed down. 10 horse power made a big difference.
It matters grinding ear corn too. My 4020 does a better job of grinding feed than my Oliver Super 77 diesel. Not knocking the Ollie, it's just half the HP. Its filling in for the 4020 while the picker is hooked up.
@@rosstheoliverman it really kinder to the pocketbook running my PTO generator which is the reason I wanted it in the first place plus it's been nice having as a yard tractor instead of using the hand clutch two cylinders.
Here goes on my idea about your 2016. I'm the type that I enjoy an electronic challenge and you mentioned having a scientific approach to fixing it vs firing the parts cannon at it. I looked on amazon and they have a "Relay Bypass", IPA TOOLS 9036. I'm not certain if that exact kit will work but you can probably find one that fits the profile of your fuel pump relay. Since the PCM is indicating a communication issue and fuel pump control issue, the relay bypass should allow you to send power to the fuel pump directly. If I remember Ford common circuits correctly, that circuit should work by the PCM commanding the fuel pump control to an on/off state which in turn activates the relay. A relay bypass should turn the pump on regardless of PCM or controller function. If it does, the truck will start and run. If a bypass was used and the pump did engage, then at least the wiring to the pump itself is intact. If a bypass fails to turn the pump on, if it were me, I'd go straight to the fuel pump harness itself and see if power and ground is present. If it is, pump is also fried. I have been thinking too you may very well be onto something; specifically the inertia switch. What puzzles me is that the dash is equipped with an access for it but the switch is MIA. Plus in the video you found a harness in the same area with no switch. I'm wondering if someone pulled it with intent to replace and never did. I've ran into a similar electrical problem where more than one issue existed and was related to the main problem. The bypass though should engage the fuel pump assuming ford does not have the main power feed to the pump running through the inertial switch. I can't recall how ford wired the inertia switch; rather to cut power to the pump directly or interrupt the PCM and controller's ability to engage the fuel pump. I just replaced both fuel pumps on my F150 and repairing the fuel tank selector system caught me by surprise considering the way ford engineered the circuit to work; ford at times does circuit routing in unique ways in my experience. One other thought I had was seeing if another 2016 F250 like yours actually has an inertia switch behind that dash access cover; like seeing if a wrecking yard had a like truck and checking if it has a switch there behind that cover. Only factory level service data will be specific on which trucks had the inertia switch and what type/where. Bugs me though that there is a connector to nowhere with no switch. I am hoping to give some info here that may cut down on diagnostic time. I'd try a relay bypass that has a switch but also determine if the inertia switch is in between the relay and pump; if it is, without the inertia switch the bypass may in fact be able to activate the pump but circuit would be incomplete without inertia switch. Since you have a newer scan tool, I couldn't tell rather it gives you live engine data. If it does, you may be able to see when the key is turned on if the PCM is commanding the fuel pump controller to an "ON" state, Autel scan tools with GM vehicles i think called it Power mode where a person can see key switch state like off, on, crank and accessory. If your scan tool gives you live data, it might give you the data "PID" for the fuel pump and you can see if the pcm is trying to command the controller to an "On" state. All this being said, circuit integrity basic testing should help a lot in narrowing down exactly what the issue is and where and how many problems exist. Getting back to basics if the bypass worked and the pump engaged the truck will start then all that's left is finding out where the communications break is so the PCM can command it. I noticed also in your video when your laying under the truck where the controller was I though I saw I heavy ground cable bolted to the frame and it looked intact from the video; ground most likely good. Hopefully this isn't all confusing. If it were me I'd get a relay bypass and confirm the inertia switch and replace if its missing then turn on bypass switch at fuse box and see if the pump or pumps in tank come on. I hope this helps, I apologize for the long winded message but I didn't want to confuse anyone without explaining my idea on a way to diagnose it.
I’ll look into that! I already have another video recorded where I replace the fuel pump control module so I won’t be able to take any action from your suggestion until after that video. Thanks!!
Real quick, forgot to mention this and its important! Ford has always from my perspective been specific on the inertia switch's purpose. In the event of an accident that switch disables pump completely to prevent inadvertent fires from fuel. Only reason I left this short comment is that the inertia switch shouldn't affect anything else other then the fuel pump(s). So if other problems exist and inertia switch is present intact/good you know with certainty you can look elsewhere for problems.
You've got me so curious about how that sheller is supposed to work. I mean, the adjustable shields, slots, hinges and trays must have some kind of function. I tried to find a 352 manual online. Apparently it's an add-on called a Haban sheller and I found a cool video of one in use that explained a lot. They were made in Racine, Wisconsin.
Try crawling and worming your way into the drawworks of an oilwell drilling rig when you are rotund. Then when you start welding on a bracket you set the grease on fire. When you start screaming fire and the rig crew does nothing while you are making a not-so-glorious exit from the drawworks and put the grease fire out yourself and then start kicking some donkey with the rig crew before you crawl back in and finish your welding. The moral to the story, a rig crew gains some respect for the irate welder when they have been whacked with a prybar. Anxiously awaiting that corn to enter into the sheller and then the grinder. Your cows will love it, and you will wish you still had a wire corn crib you had filled with ear corn.
Looks like the lunch wagon is coming together. The hard hat crew want to know an estimated date of grand opening. They were asking if on opening day if you buy one corn dog then the second one is half price? They also want to see a menu.
It depends on what you are feeding. We ground a lot of ear corn for our dairy cows but fed whole shelled corn and oat to our lambs because they can chew it themselves.
Don’t make them the way they used to everything is made a lot cheaper with lighter gauge metal and don’t last near as long no one picks corn still on the cob these days so the new holland concept although still feasible is outdated but the mixing of corn and hay or silage probably works good but on a lot smaller scale still see some here in Nebraska on smaller farms but not many everyone uses larger feeder wagons no need for corn grinding they feed residue from ethanol plants
Been a long time since thats worked judging by the Cemetery that was in there . Getting Suction from having a clean tip is def. a Plus specially when you have a small hose.SEE
Ross, do you have a tire shop near by that can foam fill those front tires? Might be something to think about in the future. Unfortunate thing about foam filled, when you get new tires, the old ones will have to be cut off. A set of car ramps would raise the grinder high enough to crawl underneath. An empty grinder doesn't weight any more than a car. Was going to suggest to look online because I do remember there being a site that did aftermarket parts for these old grinders, had a neighbor have one of these grinders, put a lot of work into, got it looking like new when he was done. Great video as always. Cheers :)
Nice video always enjoy seeing buddy too
Thanks John!
thanks for sharing
Thanks!
The sheller attachment was made likely manufactured by Haban for New Holland. I have a 3 point hitch sheller nearly like this
Cool!
Sent you a couple pictures…
@@JohnIckes-s1jthat’s awesome! I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those as a three point unit but that’s pretty neat. The wagon looks really nice as well!!!
Ross, the grinder is almost like new 🤣🤣🤣 thanks Michael
Thanks Michael!
I too enjoy a good PTO examination🤣
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who rides the struggle bus on a regular basis. Live your videos. Keep them up
😂 Thanks!
We just ground a mixer load of ear corn with the OC-6 and 352 grinder mixer. I finally got my 66 industrial back together and needed something to torture test that so i hung that on the old 352 and found lots of sadness with the old 66. Its appearing like it needs an engine rebuild
Cool! Hopefully you can get it lined out.
@rosstheoliverman It's still a basket case of sadness
I get my mig liners from mississippi welders supply. Last one cost me $19.
Good video👍👍👍👍👍
Cool! I ended up ordering a whole replacement gun off of the electronic bay so we’ll see how that goes when it gets here. I’m sure it’ll be A-1 quality🤣
It's like the old question if a tree falls in the woods Nobody's around does it still make noise
Someone will still comment and say you’re doing it wrong 😂😂😂
That's a good deal you can get the fan cover band for it. See you soon.
Thanks Jonathan!
You're getting her figured out. Good job, my friend!
Thanks Charlie!
It could do with a bang of a pressure washer..
Agree
Good, more content. We'll have to wait until next fall to watch you cutting sileage.
Thanks!!
Nice job ol’ boy .great that you found that band piece . Little splash of paint and you will have something . Great video , see ya tomorrow .
Thanks Mark!
What do you think the dead varmet was? Looks like you're well on your way. I'm trying to organize nuts and bolts now, then I'll just lose the organizer.
Probably mice/rats
be a great video to watch it grind ear corn
Thanks! Hopefully this fall!
Progress is always good 👍
Thanks Terry!
I really like the variety of farm equipment you show, repair and use. The commentary adds a lot also. Plus my dad's people are from Terre Haute so your accent brings good memories.
Thank you!
Almost like new Ross
Thanks Stephen!
You know the sheet metal replacement part will be made of Chinesium and won’t fit without 4 hours of massaging and copious amounts of animal noise…right? Seriously though can’t wait to see it in action.
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Hope there secses not sadness bud found out my one way bearing gone on p10 RC car others need pull starts sorting out
I’m sure you’ll get it figured out. Thanks Alex!
I'm just curious if you found another parts source besides ABC Groff?
No, that’s where I got the new band from.
Nice video Ross. Looks like you got a good grinder there. A little work and she's good to go. Thanks for sharing. Looks like Buddy was happy too.
Thanks Keith!
when I worked at the JD dealership we had a shortline of Artsway grinder mixer and shellers damn did I hate them.
I believe they are the last man standing when it comes to feed grinders. I have a 1967 John Deere 400. I used it on the first farm I worked on and bought it when it was no longer needed.
🤣 I think it’s going to make a mess when you use it.
@@rosstheoliverman I grind a batch about every ten days. What worries me is finding a belt for the hammermill. It's only 56 years old. 🤣
Ross is always looking where he put things, I really beleive Ross needs a few Hooters girls to be helping him keep track of things and Hooters sponsorship of this would be great advertising
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So, you have a sheller, how about a chuff cutter for sileage? Wouldn't the cows like the sileage better?
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Dad‘s got an old silage cutter up in the loft of his barn I’d like to get down.
Ross... another adventure with stubborn fasteners, bent metal, and rust-out repairs. Who else can make everyday frustrations as entertaining as you. Always a win to see things working again.
Thanks Don!
Come on Ross... I was eating 😳... animal 🦴s sheesh🤣
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I definitely need one of those! Have red angus and limousine cattle here. They do the same thing your cattle do; ours bellow and carry on anytime a tractor starts around here! I was cracking up while you were cleaning out the auger from all the fossilized creatures, reminded me of dealing with my 1995 F150 i'm bringing back to life. Just pulled entire dash because an entire colony of mice decided to make a homestead in the heater assembly. Dash came out easier than I thought and its puzzling because those four legged unholy pests didn't really tear up anything except for building a resort in the duct work. Last thing I want is to get in the truck on a freezing day and have a nice toasty blast of micey matter hit me in the teeth which would be luck! Great video, can't wait to see it run/grind; I think there is a grinder around here may have to see if the people will sell it. By the way I've been burning the three brain cells I have on the 2016 F250, ill leave another comment about that! Again, great video on the grinder! I had to replace the mig gun on our PowerMig 215, I ended up buying a complete gun assembly from YesWelder off the Amazon. So far it's worked as the original and was a decent value price wise compared to cost of a Lincoln brand; they might have a gun that fits yours. I've burned almost a 30lb ish spool so far without issue so the gun quality seems ok. Just mentioned this in case Hobart want's an enormous amount for a replacement.
Thank you!!
Good to know that bottom band is available.
I was surprised it’s actually available aftermarket and from new Holland!
Piano hinges work much better when oil is applied to them.
I agree, once I get this thing all ironed out it needs a good lubing.
Always amazing me
Thanks David!
The grinder is turning out to be a nice one!
I think so too! Thanks John!
Ross the cattle are waiting for the human feed wagon! I bought an old bearcat grinder mixer. Formed a peice metal , to fit under the grinder. Turned the blower discharge spout 180 degrees from the dust cyclone. Had my 4010 on the grinder , feeding baled corn stalks into it by hand. Took the 15 inch core of a round bale , pushed it in. I heard the the engine slow. I smelled burned rubber. I backed off the engine returned to 1800 rpm. A year or two later i had my 4020 on the grinder. I pushed the core of a corn stalk bale into the grinder. It never slowed down. 10 horse power made a big difference.
It matters grinding ear corn too. My 4020 does a better job of grinding feed than my Oliver Super 77 diesel. Not knocking the Ollie, it's just half the HP. Its filling in for the 4020 while the picker is hooked up.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it
@@rosstheoliverman it really kinder to the pocketbook running my PTO generator which is the reason I wanted it in the first place plus it's been nice having as a yard tractor instead of using the hand clutch two cylinders.
Here goes on my idea about your 2016. I'm the type that I enjoy an electronic challenge and you mentioned having a scientific approach to fixing it vs firing the parts cannon at it. I looked on amazon and they have a "Relay Bypass", IPA TOOLS 9036. I'm not certain if that exact kit will work but you can probably find one that fits the profile of your fuel pump relay. Since the PCM is indicating a communication issue and fuel pump control issue, the relay bypass should allow you to send power to the fuel pump directly. If I remember Ford common circuits correctly, that circuit should work by the PCM commanding the fuel pump control to an on/off state which in turn activates the relay. A relay bypass should turn the pump on regardless of PCM or controller function. If it does, the truck will start and run. If a bypass was used and the pump did engage, then at least the wiring to the pump itself is intact. If a bypass fails to turn the pump on, if it were me, I'd go straight to the fuel pump harness itself and see if power and ground is present. If it is, pump is also fried. I have been thinking too you may very well be onto something; specifically the inertia switch. What puzzles me is that the dash is equipped with an access for it but the switch is MIA. Plus in the video you found a harness in the same area with no switch. I'm wondering if someone pulled it with intent to replace and never did. I've ran into a similar electrical problem where more than one issue existed and was related to the main problem. The bypass though should engage the fuel pump assuming ford does not have the main power feed to the pump running through the inertial switch. I can't recall how ford wired the inertia switch; rather to cut power to the pump directly or interrupt the PCM and controller's ability to engage the fuel pump. I just replaced both fuel pumps on my F150 and repairing the fuel tank selector system caught me by surprise considering the way ford engineered the circuit to work; ford at times does circuit routing in unique ways in my experience. One other thought I had was seeing if another 2016 F250 like yours actually has an inertia switch behind that dash access cover; like seeing if a wrecking yard had a like truck and checking if it has a switch there behind that cover. Only factory level service data will be specific on which trucks had the inertia switch and what type/where. Bugs me though that there is a connector to nowhere with no switch. I am hoping to give some info here that may cut down on diagnostic time. I'd try a relay bypass that has a switch but also determine if the inertia switch is in between the relay and pump; if it is, without the inertia switch the bypass may in fact be able to activate the pump but circuit would be incomplete without inertia switch. Since you have a newer scan tool, I couldn't tell rather it gives you live engine data. If it does, you may be able to see when the key is turned on if the PCM is commanding the fuel pump controller to an "ON" state, Autel scan tools with GM vehicles i think called it Power mode where a person can see key switch state like off, on, crank and accessory. If your scan tool gives you live data, it might give you the data "PID" for the fuel pump and you can see if the pcm is trying to command the controller to an "On" state. All this being said, circuit integrity basic testing should help a lot in narrowing down exactly what the issue is and where and how many problems exist. Getting back to basics if the bypass worked and the pump engaged the truck will start then all that's left is finding out where the communications break is so the PCM can command it. I noticed also in your video when your laying under the truck where the controller was I though I saw I heavy ground cable bolted to the frame and it looked intact from the video; ground most likely good. Hopefully this isn't all confusing. If it were me I'd get a relay bypass and confirm the inertia switch and replace if its missing then turn on bypass switch at fuse box and see if the pump or pumps in tank come on. I hope this helps, I apologize for the long winded message but I didn't want to confuse anyone without explaining my idea on a way to diagnose it.
I’ll look into that! I already have another video recorded where I replace the fuel pump control module so I won’t be able to take any action from your suggestion until after that video. Thanks!!
what do you think of the 1850 terra tire tractor? thanks
It’s cool if you can find one!!!
No oil, no grease, no WD40, no blinker-fluid? I´m literaly shocked or pleased 😉
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Thanks John!
Real quick, forgot to mention this and its important! Ford has always from my perspective been specific on the inertia switch's purpose. In the event of an accident that switch disables pump completely to prevent inadvertent fires from fuel. Only reason I left this short comment is that the inertia switch shouldn't affect anything else other then the fuel pump(s). So if other problems exist and inertia switch is present intact/good you know with certainty you can look elsewhere for problems.
Thanks!!!
What year of the 88 row crop did they quit the mechanical lift
You could get it all the way up into the supers I believe. My super 66 has it.
Nice video Ross. Definitely getting better!
Thanks Larry!
Was your Dewalt air compresser the last place you looked
You've got me so curious about how that sheller is supposed to work. I mean, the adjustable shields, slots, hinges and trays must have some kind of function. I tried to find a 352 manual online. Apparently it's an add-on called a Haban sheller and I found a cool video of one in use that explained a lot. They were made in Racine, Wisconsin.
I have the manuals, I found them on electronic bay. I’ll go through the explanation when we try it out. Thanks Jack!
Try crawling and worming your way into the drawworks of an oilwell drilling rig when you are rotund. Then when you start welding on a bracket you set the grease on fire. When you start screaming fire and the rig crew does nothing while you are making a not-so-glorious exit from the drawworks and put the grease fire out yourself and then start kicking some donkey with the rig crew before you crawl back in and finish your welding. The moral to the story, a rig crew gains some respect for the irate welder when they have been whacked with a prybar.
Anxiously awaiting that corn to enter into the sheller and then the grinder. Your cows will love it, and you will wish you still had a wire corn crib you had filled with ear corn.
Looks like the lunch wagon is coming together. The hard hat crew want to know an estimated date of grand opening. They were asking if on opening day if you buy one corn dog then the second one is half price? They also want to see a menu.
Those cows are a cheeky bunch.
🤣 thanks Allan!
the grian drops down and the air flow and dust blows up to the cyclone
Thanks Bill!
Not sure why they would want to shell the ear corn before going into the mill? Why not just grind ear and all?
It depends on what you are feeding. We ground a lot of ear corn for our dairy cows but fed whole shelled corn and oat to our lambs because they can chew it themselves.
I didn’t really understand that either but apparently some people would do that for certain types of livestock.
We would always shell corn for chicken feed but ear corn for cattle
She was definitely full of crap. No wonder it wouldn't turn, but you made her more better! 30 or so years on an oem belt ain't bad !
Thanks Jonathan!
Don’t make them the way they used to everything is made a lot cheaper with lighter gauge metal and don’t last near as long no one picks corn still on the cob these days so the new holland concept although still feasible is outdated but the mixing of corn and hay or silage probably works good but on a lot smaller scale still see some here in Nebraska on smaller farms but not many everyone uses larger feeder wagons no need for corn grinding they feed residue from ethanol plants
Thanks for watching!
Been a long time since thats worked judging by the Cemetery that was in there .
Getting Suction from having a clean tip is def. a Plus specially when you have a small hose.SEE
🤣 i’m always looking for new adapters for my small hose.
That thing looks like it needs to be in a warm garage so you can tear it apart this winter and fix it before it gets too bad to run.
That would be nice but sadly I’ll be working on it outdoors 🤣
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Thanks Tom!
Ross, do you have a tire shop near by that can foam fill those front tires? Might be something to think about in the future. Unfortunate thing about foam filled, when you get new tires, the old ones will have to be cut off.
A set of car ramps would raise the grinder high enough to crawl underneath. An empty grinder doesn't weight any more than a car. Was going to suggest to look online because I do remember there being a site that did aftermarket parts for these old grinders, had a neighbor have one of these grinders, put a lot of work into, got it looking like new when he was done. Great video as always. Cheers :)
Yeah I’ve had to work on stuff that had foam filled tires and I’m not a fan of that. I’ll just keep patching my tubes 🤣
That's going to be a great grinder when you are done! What company did you find parts through? I have an IH 1150 í will need some parts for.
I searched online and found it, can’t remember the name 😂
wow your fixing it the right way what is wrong with you what did you run out of duct tape?
My duct tape got wet in the rain and got ruined :(
Grease anyone?
We’ll do that before we use it. I already greased all the fittings the other day before I used it to grind.