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  • (Re-uploaded after copyright take down) Join Gary and Iain for a review and discussion of, Alien 3 (1992) by Director, David Fincher. Starring, Sigourney Weaver, Charles S. Dutton, Charles Dance and Lance Henriksen.
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  • @rossross9281
    @rossross9281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The more I watch alien 3 the more I like it.

    • @noneya3635
      @noneya3635 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, it does get better with multiple viewings. And finding out the 8th Doctor was in the movie gave it a few cool points for me.

    • @dennyperez3872
      @dennyperez3872 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here…

    • @skaro85
      @skaro85 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Much better than prometheus or covenant rubbish!

    • @Paul_1971
      @Paul_1971 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, grew on me over time too - workprint version makes it even better.

  • @kennethwilkinson2095
    @kennethwilkinson2095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The sad thing is, I've nearly watched all of off the shelf reviews, even on films I haven't seen.
    Great channel.

    • @1994thuglife
      @1994thuglife 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🎉

    • @crassbandercoot4343
      @crassbandercoot4343 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats not a sad thing at all. Ive watched a ton of their videos while working just because i enjoy their friendly banter as a background noise

  • @Bojack727
    @Bojack727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I fucking love this film! It's SOOO much better than it gets credit for. In the last few years, as I became more aware of the pedigree of the actors populating Fury 161, I became aware of the fact that Sigourney Weaver has been basically marooned in a special prison made for Character Actors!

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only those actors were given the opportunity to shine liked they deserved...

  • @soneast
    @soneast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nice to see movie reviewers who actually like Alien III. I have always enjoyed this movie. I guess I can understand the criticisms, but they don't diminish the movie for me.

    • @poloshirtsamurai
      @poloshirtsamurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love Alien 3 as well and is my favorite. I get the how the alien got to the ship as well as the effects criticisms though. But so I'm glad they killed off teakettle-Newt and Hicks.

  • @91lifetime23
    @91lifetime23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    “This is Alien³ and this is where the story ends” well said Ian

    • @laraschauble
      @laraschauble หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree..I felt that once Ripley leaned over to fall to her death..that ended her story ...I did like the chest bursting as she was falling and she desperately held on to the baby alien to ensure its death too...I didn't watch anymore alien movies after the 3rd installment..

    • @91lifetime23
      @91lifetime23 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@laraschauble im a massive fan of the franchise and i also like what prometheus and covenant added to the franchise, but for me Ripley’s story ended in the amazing Alien³, Resurrection was just unnecessary.

  • @jmwild1
    @jmwild1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Cameron said that he would have wanted to see Ripley, Hicks, and Newt make it back to Earth safely and live as a family. It leaves the question of what would be the inciting incident to drive Alien 3. Having said that, I do love the Assembly Cut and I loved learning about the sordid history behind the making of the film. The quadrilogy box set is great.

    • @jimbowlan5804
      @jimbowlan5804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love the assembly cut I don’t watch the theatrical anymore

    • @camgoodkicks
      @camgoodkicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know this is an old comment, but my answer to this has always been the series is called “ALIEN” *not* “Ripley”. Let her story be done with Aliens, and let the universe continue without her. The company itself is enough of a force to continually push the alien into conflict. That also makes it matter more when Ripley, Hicks, or Newt return one day in the future

    • @jmwild1
      @jmwild1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camgoodkicks Agreed.

    • @chrissyknowsitall5170
      @chrissyknowsitall5170 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Cameron has also said he was really upset that Hicks and Newt was just killed off. He said he made these characters to go beyond Aliens too. He doesn't like Alien3 at all.

    • @occam7382
      @occam7382 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Ripley, Hicks, and Newt make it back to Earth safely and live as a family. It leaves the question of what would be the inciting incident to drive Alien 3." That's actually very simple: Have them return to Earth, and after a timeskip, they're approached by someone (CIA, ECA, whatever works) who works for whatever government exists in this universe and recruits them to return to LV-426 to mess up the Company, which has built a base there and has been experimenting with Xenos under the government's noses.

  • @Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes
    @Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My favorite quote from Alien³:
    _"Buh"_
    - Arthur (played by Deobia Oparei)
    (Right before ignition stick strikes the floor and causes ensuing explosion - Arthur is the 3rd black dude, after Dillon & Boggs)

    • @altodomino2721
      @altodomino2721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol! That part was amazing

  • @mistermatix8241
    @mistermatix8241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Bit of trivia: Carl Chase who plays Frank Ellis was a good friend of my sister Fran (passed of cancer in 2018). I've actually met him, a bit of a character, but a really nice guy. I asked him about the shoot, and he signed for me. My sister was a singer in her spare time (a GP in her day job) and she met Carl as he loves open mic nights, live music etc. He's been in Red Dwarf too as old Lister. He got on brilliant with Fincher and knew that Fox, and David Giler (a power hungry, unreasonably nasty little dickhead according to Carl) were on his case. Carl told me Fincher found support with Charles Dutton, Pete Postlethwaite, Brian Glover and Charles Dance (who were very good friends, being both Yorkshire men). The cast had real camaraderie, as the sets, and atmosphere were very oppressive. Ralph Brown and Paul McGann were constantly asked about Withnail & I by Fincher between takes (who adores that film so much, he wanted to cast Richard E. Grant as Clemens as well, a mini Withnail reunion) , and it was funny at lunchtimes when all the "prisoners" are sitting together and Tom Woodruff would join them in the Alien suit without the tail and head! some interesting bts stuff. I asked him why didn't he look up the access pipe and check for aliens before climbing up with a flare and bucket of explosive slop!

  • @Neo_Vandole
    @Neo_Vandole 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The relationship with the doctor/Charles Dance made sense to me as 2 lost souls clinging to each other.

  • @leecalvinmusic
    @leecalvinmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Also the face hugger cracks Newt’s cryotube .... but later we see her tube glass intact. Loads of continuity errors.

    • @kendane2001
      @kendane2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m not so sure it wasn’t Ripley’s tank the alien was getting into. I’m in the team that say’s there were only the royal face hugger , and one drone who was to protect the queen larvae till it was ready to start laying. Newts tank probably cracked on impact with the beach.

    • @crazyrabbits
      @crazyrabbits 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A remnant of a deleted scene shown in the comic book adaptation (and possibly filmed) - the queen chestburster comes out of Newt's mouth (revealing it had originally infected her) in the half-sunken EEV, crawled over to Ripley and entered her mouth. It would have solved the problem of who the chestburster infected, but raises other continuity problems (namely, changing the biology of the chestburster itself).

  • @williedoit3381
    @williedoit3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "These aliens don't care, it doesn't matter if you're good or bad , you're meat... "Gary Nicholls"

  • @sweakerthan
    @sweakerthan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It is so refreshing to hear someone else talk about the great aspects that Alien 3 has to offer in the Alien series and as a film in general.
    I also love this film

  • @mattmidgley4275
    @mattmidgley4275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fun fact for you- Brian Glover taught my dad at school as he was a teacher before he became an actor so when we watched this movie when I was young my dad would say “ there’s my teacher “ OTSR 👊👊

    • @markbarrett4440
      @markbarrett4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard too that Brian Glover's teacher colleague was Barry Hines who wrote in the part of the sadistic PE teacher for him in Kes

  • @thedominator96
    @thedominator96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A family friend met Sigourney in a pit while she was filming Alien 3 he gave her some of his food on his lunch hour and said watch out for those Aliens haha they filmed the opening on the blast beach here in the North East England (10 minutes from where i live) it's crazy i've walked that beach so many times and it really is as black and dull as the beginning of the film haha

  • @creatingthelie
    @creatingthelie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    There is only 1 CGI shot in the film. The scene where the alien cracks from the water. The rest is all puppet work.

    • @irllcd13
      @irllcd13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not true. When its running around the halls there are obvious CGI shots. The lighting gives it away. The texturing is way off and the light/shadows don't fit the rest of the environment. And it's not really doing the movie any favors to say its practical effects look like shitty CGI.

    • @ermatthe
      @ermatthe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Those shots are puppets on a green/blue screen. Watch the making of documentaries

    • @alexjaybrady
      @alexjaybrady 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, those are puppets that have been comped in optically. watch the Making Of.

    • @irllcd13
      @irllcd13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ZX Spectrum That's even worse because it still looks like shitty CGI. It takes a high level of incompetence to make practical look worse than CGI in 1993.

    • @adamduffield7782
      @adamduffield7782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@irllcd13 it was actually a new technique that they were trying out.
      Film a puppet on a green screen. Then superimpose it into the shot they want it in. Yes the technique looks incredibly dated, those shots have aged terribly . But it wasn't practical effects, it was basically the forerunner for full blown cgi.
      And back in 1993 it was an advancement in what was capable . Don't forget this was at a time the 1st Windows was released(windows 3.1)
      It's like watching an old 1950s b movie and moaning how bad the special effects are . Well of course they're bad the technology isn't there to do the shot perfectly !
      I'm sure with today's technology. If someone went over those frames and fully rendered a cgi xenomorph to replace the puppet one it would look amazing .

  • @yodatrucker420
    @yodatrucker420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This film will always hold a special spot in my heart. This was the first alien film I watched (when it finally came on HBO back when it released) I set down with my dad I was very ill and he made us some sandwiches and we watched this at 2 in the morning together.
    It was our first movie we watched just the two of us and he didn’t even cover my eyes for the bloody scenes been a huge fan of the franchise since when my dad passed I set that night and watched this film with a sandwich and just reminisced

    • @xsm5525
      @xsm5525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same with me, it's my fave one out of all the Alien films cause it's the first one I saw (as an early teen) it wasn't until much later that I realised long term Alien fans were annoyed at it, and I can understand why. but for me, I love its gritty, dark & raw atmosphere of dread throughout the whole film.

    • @yodatrucker420
      @yodatrucker420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Coy Leigh just got 2 notification one from a year ago and one an hour.. I was ill because I had got shot in the stomach by a bully (yes he went to jail) so I was stuck on the sofa for 3 months because I couldn't climb the stairs.

  • @91lifetime23
    @91lifetime23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Alien³ just gets better with time and the soundtrack is timeless, this movie did what Game of Thrones The Red Wedding episode did for TV, 2 decades before

  • @Sjar86
    @Sjar86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love the part where that guy is pulled into the vent and the blood flies down and the other prisoner is like "FUCK!" haha.

    • @spiraldown2710
      @spiraldown2710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The stress ball dropping down 😂 this is my favorite scene also

  • @Marauder1981
    @Marauder1981 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You guys make the best reviews because you´re authentic and offer so much background knowledge. Stay that way. I wouldn´t mind longer reviews.

  • @jamesbrooking1287
    @jamesbrooking1287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    charles s dutton is always awesome in any film he's in

    • @kramalerav
      @kramalerav ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially in Surviving the Game.

  • @sean5558
    @sean5558 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like how instantly when you see and hear the superintendent you immediately recognize he was at the Slaughtered Lamb on American Werewolf in London

    • @MrZoolook
      @MrZoolook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THAT'S ENOUGH!!
      Just sit down and relax with a cup of Tetley's tea.

  • @WelshIron
    @WelshIron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So glad you guys are not trashing this. I love it, loved it when I saw it at the cinema. Such a good film.

  • @catspaw3092
    @catspaw3092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In other Alien comics Nute survives & lives to become an adult she & Hicks are separated from Ripley & they try to find her.

  • @murph8837
    @murph8837 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How the hell does he defend the egg being on the ship when the Queen NEVER left the cargo area? She gets off the ship attacks Ripley and immediately attacks Newt then fights Ripley again and thrown out to space, no egg laying time. And he is so blown how the majority of the cast was "Britesh".

  • @Blaize24
    @Blaize24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm so very glad not to be the only one who loves this movie. I think it's brilliant in story, cinematography, direction, acting, etc. I also agree about the bits I prefer from the theatrical cut vs. the assembly cut.
    ETA more words

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always figured Newt was killed off because she would have been a teenager, and grown a ton, unable to be the little kid from Aliens.

  • @BIOHAZARDRUSGaming
    @BIOHAZARDRUSGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For me the best comedy part was after the superintendent gets pulled up, and another prisoner just shouts “FUCK”

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was Morse again 👍😅 Brilliant character,reminds me of Johnny Rotten!

    • @jimbowlan5804
      @jimbowlan5804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love Morse and his volgurness I would like his story to be made a book

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimbowlan5804
      I like that he turned from bad guy to hero at the end.I thought the film had some memorable characters.

  • @Commentator541
    @Commentator541 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Planet made of wood would work great. Someone should bring back that concept, it's visually amazing

    • @M85619
      @M85619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Space Termites

  • @elgordo9525
    @elgordo9525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Alien was a horror movie, Aliens was an action movie. Alien 3 was something else. As a teen it was just a weird film. As an adult who can appreciate movies, I'm digging Alien 3.

    • @DesROWUnited
      @DesROWUnited 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alien 3 it's existentialism drama

  • @bandit_six5418
    @bandit_six5418 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The fact this movie manages to even exist is honestly evidence of how amazing Fincher is. All the studio interference could have made something like Mortal Kombat Annihilation 😮

  • @barricade1391
    @barricade1391 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Couldn’t agree with you more lads. It’s somber and depressing but deliciously feral in its imagery of the xenomorph. Great character depictions and arguably the best riveting score in the franchise

  • @MrOldboy360
    @MrOldboy360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    watching it at this very moment...had to put it on after hearing this

  • @oldheadprisonofficer7024
    @oldheadprisonofficer7024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ain't gonna lie. The doctors death was a very shocking death to me

  • @davidahmed7792
    @davidahmed7792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The score is very grand and sweeping - it's fitting for what I consider the final chapter of the Alien Trilogy.
    This is the perfect ending to a horror story, exactly in agreement - this tale was never meant to have a happy ending.
    Elliott Goldenthal composed the score for Tom Cruises "Interview With The Vampire" in 1994.
    I've really enjoyed your reviews - I watched The Thing reviews last night, back to back.
    On a side note, I think I read somewhere that Sigourney Weaver has family in England, on her mother's side.
    She's probably pretty at home with English actors.

  • @kissingzombieschannel3708
    @kissingzombieschannel3708 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    there is no cgi in this movie except for one shot... so ALL of the alien footage is either a guy in a suit or a puppet... the composition/blue screen is terrible, but watching the behind the scenes of the Alien puppet, with like 4 puppeteers operating the creature is fucking amazing... also, the autopsy showed EVERYTHING, every detail, but the studio thought it was too much to show...

  • @crassbandercoot4343
    @crassbandercoot4343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would make the arguement that the single best line in the whole film is one word from Morse.
    After Andrews is killed in the vent and everyone is cowering, horrified into silence; Morse breaks the silence with a single "Fuck!", and a subtle little head shake.

  • @TheOverlordOfProcrastination
    @TheOverlordOfProcrastination 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best of the Alien sequels. Criminally underrated.

  • @jacksmith3189
    @jacksmith3189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gary, I enjoyed your emotional review
    Yours and Iain’s reviews are excellent

  • @katyrye
    @katyrye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All the other Alien movies have airlocks in them except for maybe Prometheus but this one does not have the alien being ejected from an airlock

  • @tormundgiantsbane6133
    @tormundgiantsbane6133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Considering the queen ditched her egg sack laying thingy to chase after Ripley contradicts how a face-hugger ends up on the ship. What would have been more interesting is after Ripley does her whole wastefulness of ammo in the hive! The camera could have focused on just one egg that was intact, could of laid a strong foundation for the queen planting this on the Sulaco as you don’t see the queen until it steps out from the landing gear.

    • @yodatrucker420
      @yodatrucker420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smarsh that would mean they planned on killing hicks, newt and Ripley from the beginning.. which wasn’t the plan

  • @oskar_oskarewicz
    @oskar_oskarewicz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:05 I've just had a realization!
    Maybe it's a tribuite to another great but underrated third entry in a horror franchise!
    Here's the hint:
    "Where do you want to sleep, Dr. Challis?
    That's a dumb question, Miss Grimbridge."

  • @SquabbleBoxHQ
    @SquabbleBoxHQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Always enjoyed Alien 3, but the Assembly Cut only confirmed what I already knew. There was a great film in there waiting to get out. Whatever your feelings on the film, you can't deny that it signalled the arrival of a great talent. It should be absolutely unwatchable, but because they couldn't take away Fincher's abilities, it is never less than watchable, and for me, better than everything to come since. Have recently given your videos a go and I'm highly impressed, keep it up boys - Dave.

  • @Ravuun
    @Ravuun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one thing that's always bugged me about these movies. What the heck ended up happening to Jonesy? He got left on Earth in Aliens, did he live the rest of his life in a kennel or something? The one loose thread that as far as I know remains a mystery to this day.

  • @vanessapham6914
    @vanessapham6914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always leave the room when it's the dog chest buster scene ): Can't handle it.

    • @vanessapham6914
      @vanessapham6914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @PhasedPlasmaRifle InThe40WattRange I watch the thing many times and the dog scene in there has no effect on me. But the one in Alien 3 hurts me so much I don't know why. Maybe because the monster burst from inside while the dogs in The Thing were attacked from the outside.

  • @Joe_Arch
    @Joe_Arch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I absolutely love Alien 3. It's fits so well within the hostile dark future time of the Alien universe. It's brutal, horrible but beautiful. I actually wish they would do a 3rd cut. There's great bits in the Theatrical Cut that need bringing into the Assembly Cut.

  • @homiiciidalkiitten6650
    @homiiciidalkiitten6650 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Alright, I got the 4 movie pack from ITunes..... watched the first 3 on to Resurection! I had never seen these movies as a kid when they came out, its fun now at 30 to dig into these iconic movies with a huge fan base and experience it as a new movie.

    • @kfizzledizzle8467
      @kfizzledizzle8467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I cried when I saw that this comment was posted a year ago, because that means this person most likely watched Resurrection. :(

  • @randytaylor2485
    @randytaylor2485 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think Alien 3 is getting better with age. Even though the CGI is dated, the cinematography, direction and character development is perhaps better than Aliens. I still hold Alien above all, but I would actually watch Alien 3 before Aliens.

  • @fortgrove3166
    @fortgrove3166 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From what I saw from the first Alien is that a facehugger has one egg to impregnate a host. It can’t do two. So Newt wasn’t facehugged lol. And to do it again to a dog or ox was against their biology.

  • @ANTINUTZI
    @ANTINUTZI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ... I really liked it. The writing and direction worked, the performances were terrific.

  • @patrickodonnell1352
    @patrickodonnell1352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never believed Charles Dance’s character’s explanation on why he was imprisoned solely because of the scene with the superintendent who warns him if Ripley knew why he was convicted that she would want nothing to do with him. This statement doesn’t sound to me like he got high and botched an operation but, perhaps, he did something more sinister. It would be typical of Ripley and her run of bad luck to hook up with the Sex Slayer of Sector Six. BTW, I enjoy your reviews immensely.

  • @mikemuir0178
    @mikemuir0178 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cleaning up the mess - "Your going to need a bigger bucket"

  • @dkazmer2
    @dkazmer2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great channel, guys. Love the long form review format!

  • @jeeveseventynine9263
    @jeeveseventynine9263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very underrated and never understood why Fincher doesnt want to talk about it. Feels like the guy has been traumatized by the studios interference. It is amazing that he still achieved to make this movie as a debut director when people thought he was just an assistant when he first showed up on set. I also want to note that the CGI shots are not CGI by definition. Its not done digitally, but rather done using old school faking. I do agree that they look bad but it never really bothered me that much. Saw this at teathres when i was 13 and it left such an impression on me i will never forget. Alien was so original and started everything (best sci-fi and monster ever!), but I could agree with Gary here and this might just be the best Alien movie out there. For me, the Alien story stops here with the trilogy. Alien 4 was a joke and a cash grab. :(

  • @leecalvinmusic
    @leecalvinmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lots of debate about how and when the egg got onto the Sulaco. What isn’t shown in the film is the return docking procedure of the drop ship back into the cargo bay. That would have taken some time and left plenty of time for the queen to drop an egg.... somewhere. Although why it’s hanging upside down at the start of Alien 3 I’m baffled.

  • @scrmepal
    @scrmepal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just being nitpicky...... but Alien 3 was released in 1992, not 1993.........:)

  • @john9381
    @john9381 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta say, you hit the nail right on the head with the funeral / birth scene. The Assembly cut lacks the power of the theatrical version. Just something about that speech, with the score and then the alien tearing out of that poor dog as Dylan says "...comes new life..." It's perfect.

  • @JohnBlack2345
    @JohnBlack2345 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    there are alot of things I called the first 15 minutes......brilliant is NOT one of them.

  • @FireTiger941
    @FireTiger941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:15 Sigourney was just going for the Sinead O'Connor look haha

  • @fortgrove3166
    @fortgrove3166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the Alien book it was understood that Ripley and Lambert slept with the crew because there was a scene that they were alone and Ripley asked Lambert if she slept with Ash.

  • @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
    @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is my favorite review from you guys, I think Alien 3 might be the most underrated movie ever.

    • @DesROWUnited
      @DesROWUnited 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same, Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) is a masterpiece.

    • @WoodBlock707
      @WoodBlock707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      DesROWUnited ive always watched aliens 3 on VHS back in the day. This video is the first hearing of assembly cut. Now I gotta buy the Blu Ray box set.

  • @WoodBlock707
    @WoodBlock707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I didn't have a problem with Alien 3. I thought it was awesome

  • @kcc85uk
    @kcc85uk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish David Fincher would return and release his version of Alien³ as a really good film is hiding within Alien³

    • @Grandmastergav86
      @Grandmastergav86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It must be a master of disguise then.

    • @irllcd13
      @irllcd13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A good Alien3 would be an entirely new movie. The script was a piece of shit and it's impossible to turn it into a good movie.

    • @willk1756
      @willk1756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@irllcd13 wtf how do you think the script sucks. For me, Dillon's eulogy at Hicks and Newts funeral is one of the most powerful scenes of the 4 films. Furthermore, his speech motivating the prisoners to essentially lay down their lives in order to lead one last desperate effort to try and kill the creature always gets to me too.

  • @MethosChannel
    @MethosChannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Assembly cut is far superior to the rest of all versions.

    • @irllcd13
      @irllcd13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The assembly cut is better, yes. But it's still bad. It's like being peed on or shit on. Neither is good, but one is clearly worse.

  • @WrestlingSmarks
    @WrestlingSmarks 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only problem with the theory that Newt and Hicks would have made me care less about the other characters since I already don't care about the murderers and rapists.

  • @kramalerav
    @kramalerav ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David Twohy at one point was one of the writers hired to work on a screenplay for this sequel. Like that of his later film Riddick, it would have been a spin-off with the hero not battling extra-terrestrial monsters from the previous films, but the Fiorina prisoners. Needless to say, it ended up in the Twentieth-Century Fox round file.

  • @DeanH92
    @DeanH92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I met Paul McGann (Golic) at a con yesterday, and I said I’m sorry FOX messed up Alien 3, and he said “Oh yeah they messed Fincher around, but he had the last laugh though - he’s David Fincher!”
    He also went onto to say he’s never seen the film, but heard about the Assembly Cut, and the chances of Fincher reclaiming it and doing his own cut were probably zero.

  • @Melfichair
    @Melfichair 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was so relieved to see the nihilism of alien3. We all want to be heroes and save the day.. but we just can't. When faced with a threat like the Alien. It's just death.

  • @colcostello160
    @colcostello160 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mates dad played Frank the prisoner in this, nice fella.. He Was in pirates of the Caribbean aswell.

  • @xArtremiix
    @xArtremiix 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always liked the 3rd movie, despited of ppl saying it's a crap, I think for some one it's great on subconscious level, they just liked it like me and for others it's not because of that heroes death and bla bla bla, most if not all things said in this review are correct, but thanks to it now I know exactly why I loved it first place, seems all this was also on subconscious level )

  • @perfectid3317
    @perfectid3317 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this review. I have never understood why people love Alien but hate Alien3. I've always thought both films are not so different.
    I respect but have never swooned over the first film, though. It was too slow during the first half, and most characters were flat-out boring. I therefore prefer Alien3 to Alien, as the threat is apparent from the beginning and I liked the characters a little more. I wept for Newt and Hicks though. I respect the ending but seeing Ripley die tore my heart out.
    I love Aliens most. It is in my TOP10 list of favourite films ever. It is the perfect mix of action, interesting stories, cool characters, strong lead characters, emotional investment, suspense, etc.
    So, I guess, my ranking list goes Aliens > Alien3 > Prometheus > Alien > Alien: Ressurection. I have not watched Alien: Covenant yet, though.

    • @rexremedy1733
      @rexremedy1733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think because this movie is too cynical. You can have all kinds of dark movies, but somehow, at least one character has to stand for something better, for some kind of applied idealism. And that is what I miss in this movie. For example, to kill off Newt, is just too much after her ordeal in the last movie. She earned her rescue. And now in this she is killed off screen. It’s too much...

  • @cabbyb111
    @cabbyb111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great review lads, interesting fact, the alien wasn't cgi it was a puppet that was composited on to the film.

  • @Nasoj0Tnek
    @Nasoj0Tnek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    seriously, this was taken down. I knew something was missing... gosh, youtube is going to hell.

  • @MrSporkster
    @MrSporkster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best version of Alien 3 is the Assembly Cut. If you haven't seen that, you haven't really seen Alien 3.

    • @KaijuComics
      @KaijuComics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, each version has their benefits

  • @Based_Shogun
    @Based_Shogun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:20 he was my favorite actor on the show!

  • @paulstaker8861
    @paulstaker8861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man alien 3 has such a great story that's begging to be realized to its full potential.

  • @dedicatedgamer2500
    @dedicatedgamer2500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys are awesome. I actually prefer this to Aliens. Alien is, of course, No. 1.

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Over the years I’ve reached the same conclusion.I like that all three films are so different.

  • @Private-Hudson
    @Private-Hudson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could never understand how the queen could lay the egg..She ripped off the egg producing sack after Rippley blasted it with 3 grenades at the end of Aliens..

  • @thebusybuilder4071
    @thebusybuilder4071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the only CG alien was after the lead pour when it cracks. ALL other shots were a blue or green screened puppet so its actually the puppet effects that suck that you were critiquing. Outside of the actual non composited man in a suit. We didnt get CG aliens until resurrection

  • @airfixx_8952
    @airfixx_8952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only seen the OG cut of A3 once; which was many many years ago now and I never understood why it got such a hard time....... I guess it's nice to know that time is kind to some 'mis-treated' greats and that they get their due love & credit in time (none more-so than 'The Thing', but also personal fave Halloween 3 seems to be getting a few flowers now people have slowly got over their "wot no Michael"-isms).
    Off to to watch the Assembly Cut for the first time now...... 👍
    Great review as always, lads.

  • @barricade1391
    @barricade1391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love alien 3, also love the review 👌🏼

  • @toddryan0108
    @toddryan0108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review guys!! I am forever an Alien franchise fan! Am also a fan of David Finchers work in all his films.

  • @Andreluxme
    @Andreluxme 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Guys, the alien effects when not man in a suit was not CGI, it was a little puppet. Just watch the making of. The only CGI they used was in the end e some other little stuff. CGI was not able to do alien effects at that time. Please, check this out.

    • @davidscottheath
      @davidscottheath 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I came here to comment this. The reason it looks like it doesn't belong is because it was composited chemically, which didn't allow for the nuance that digital compositing offers. I'd be interested to see what a revisited version of this film could potentially look like.

    • @Andreluxme
      @Andreluxme 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Alien effects were made by a pupett. The only CGI appears when the guy thows a torch in the Alien and when his head cracks at the end.

    • @irllcd13
      @irllcd13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's clearly CGI. The lighting and shadows is completely off. And either way, it still looks like shit.

  • @razzledazzle1462
    @razzledazzle1462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The bit around 7:45(ish) onward I was sort of on board for, at least in a thematic/motivational sense. Bit too much reliance on outside sources that had nothing to do with the writing of the movie though. Who would ever accept the idea that one must first play a video game or read a comic or novelization (not written by the same hand that penned the script) to get something out of a movie?

  • @EternalRoman
    @EternalRoman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so happy to have seen so much love for both versions of ALIEN 3, I agreed with all the points of this video because all of them have been my defense for it throughout the years.

  • @RodericPerez
    @RodericPerez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Neatly, this one is a guilty pleasure. I enjoyed this one and will watch it whenever it is on Telly. The acting is top notch and there were so many behind the scene reasons why no hicks. It solidified my David Fincher fandom and I make no apologies for that.

  • @MindbodyMedic
    @MindbodyMedic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note Ripleys Christ cruxifiction pose when grabbing onto the bars waiting for Dylan to whack her, then later on whilst falling into the fire

  • @kkuro7054
    @kkuro7054 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Six years late, but I wanted to say it's still pleasant to encounter a review of this film that appreciates it so well!!
    (Though, puzzled at your attempt to create plausibility re: _not_ banging Charles Dance. Very bizarre.)

  • @SpartanFlashSentry
    @SpartanFlashSentry ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Retrospective guys. Sorry for the Necroposting but I've been going through a lot of creators' reviews on Alien3. After recently viewing this movie again last year with my older Daughter, I agree that it has aged very well. The VFX would be a fun fan project to give a facelift to. I would love for this to one day be retconned as a hyperspace nightmare, (Bloomkamp got robbed. Still salty at Ridley Scott for that one.). I'll leave you with my silly fan theory about "Bishop II': Red blood - He was a Custom Cyberdyne model from the Skynet years centuries prior. Weyland Yutani never throws anything away! How's that for a crossover?!

  • @MrZoolook
    @MrZoolook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ox is not dead when the chest burster hatches. It clearly starts moving and struggling just before. No different to Kane in Alien and the colonist in Aliens, it is simply comotosed after being impregnated.
    It's strung upside down, so it just can't move that much. And the prisoners aren't exactly bothered enough to check if it's alive, so just assume "Oh, it just keeled over and stayed unresponsive, so it must be dead."

  • @SaigonBrit
    @SaigonBrit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb review. I think Alien 3 is a haunting and often overlooked masterpiece of cinema. Beautiful movie.

  • @skusxyxd548
    @skusxyxd548 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    B est up and coming review channel.I love yawl's deliverance. Keep those videos coming!

  • @johnthemachine
    @johnthemachine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I still consider Prometheus seperate, but when watching that, followed by Alien Aliens and Alien3, this movie feels even better especially with its religious undertones.

  • @lotrgirl275
    @lotrgirl275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fincherism should be a cinematic term.

  • @johanprx7985
    @johanprx7985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The fact that Newt and Hicks are dead does make Ripley seem more alone. So I understand that. However I do think that they made a mistake. People would have accepted Newt as the new Ripley. The character of Newt could have continued the franchise in a better way than they have now.

    • @stevenlornie1261
      @stevenlornie1261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that idea is so damn corny. Fuckin awful!

    • @giantjulez9632
      @giantjulez9632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fucking terrible. Go home dude your drunk.

    • @johanprx7985
      @johanprx7985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@giantjulez9632 You don't need to agree. That is fine. But not everything has to be an insult to get your point across. Please learn to control your emotions and learn manners.

  • @equals-kl9hm
    @equals-kl9hm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alien 3 isn't the worst in the franchise, it's just no where near the greatness of the 1st two.
    Summing up this movie is simple. Ripley would have checked out the Sulaco bow to stern, port to starboard, every millimeter. After the 1st movie and the second, she wouldn't want any more surprises. Alien 3 makes no sense.

  • @zakhassan
    @zakhassan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    brilliant stuff guys!

  • @alexives9274
    @alexives9274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved alien 3 it was the perfect ending to the series life isn't about rainbows and flip flips to me the ending it ends the series and I fell like the prisoner at the end so it isn't sad its just good.

  • @mrnaughtycat
    @mrnaughtycat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg it's mr Rottweiler from seres one first episode of bottom

  • @brokefangmagepunk3685
    @brokefangmagepunk3685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just cant imagine being paid millions of dollars just to shave my head. Life of an actor, wow

  • @phrayzar
    @phrayzar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cudos to you guys, Alien III is an atmospheric ultra horror. It's the alien that I have when I'm having a nightmare. So many things to like in it. Franchise should have ended there. Some shabby treatment of it after this.