The True Story of a Doomed Production - Finchers Alien 3

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  • @PeakedInterest
    @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Please don't forget to like the video

    • @maxjoseph06
      @maxjoseph06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Liked!

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you

    • @rejectedautobiography
      @rejectedautobiography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great video!

    • @anaalicia5029
      @anaalicia5029 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still love this movie. I saw it in a theatre when I was a child and it was the first Alien movie I watched! I think it’s more an experimental piece of art than really a movie. And I loved Sigourney in it.

    • @hardmode6082
      @hardmode6082 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey men props for this video, l was actually thinking "the transitions between cuts are really cool, wonder who edited this video", the only bit l was not really positive about was the music sometimes was too loud, like too in the front so to speak. But regardless pretty impeccable job

  • @lunaticfade4044
    @lunaticfade4044 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Despite everything it’s still my favorite; the world building just feels real…I don’t care what people say when I watch Aliens I feel like I’m looking at sets; but when I watch Alien3 I feel like I’m in the prison.

    • @VenusHeadTrap2
      @VenusHeadTrap2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He totally has a point

    • @rollicker3139
      @rollicker3139 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sorry, but I can't disagree more. Aliens looks fantastic and just as real and authentic as the other films. I loved the aesthetic of Alien 3, and even the film itself, but in my humble opinion the other two films are critic proof as far as the visuals go.

    • @rjth796
      @rjth796 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You still feel that way when that poorly rendered green screen alien is climbing on the walls chasing them?

  • @PotatoReviews
    @PotatoReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    When will studios understand they need to just stand back and let directors get on with their craft? It never works out well. This video on the other hand is absolutely outstanding! The editing and script is genuinely perfect and is honestly the most in depth and well made analysis of the production of this film. Well done mate, can’t wait to see more!

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks man. This video was a labour of love for me being a big fincher fan.

    • @almostshawn3230
      @almostshawn3230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stories like these get famous, but there are some little-known examples of studio meddling that have worked out. My favorite is from Rise of the Planet of the Apes. In a scene, James Franco goes to rescue Cesar. he opens the door, but Cesar refuses and decides to stay with his fellow apes. During a screening, a producer said there should be an insert shot of Franco holding a leash, symbolizing the life Cesar had and is now refusing to go back to.

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because there's just as many, if not MORE examples of directors totally fucking projects up because things had to be done "their way". Myopic, tunnel visioned black & white views like this are fucking stupid.

  • @ninfilms
    @ninfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    In my opinion Alien 3 is underrated. Yes it has flaws but it got innovative ideas from the camerawork to its darktones. I prefer this film than Alien Resurrection.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It's vastly superior to resurrection. That movie is awful

    • @ninfilms
      @ninfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PeakedInterest I just felt it was script that was the problem and Winona Ryder was miscast she was too big an actress to play a support. She just look like she was in the wrong film. I didn't mind the surreal vision Jean-Pierre Jeunet, but the arty vision and a basic script just didn't mix.

    • @ttabood7462
      @ttabood7462 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I think the main reason most people didn't like it was because they just wanted another 'shoot em up' film. Same with Prometheus.

    • @leonefurlan137
      @leonefurlan137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Film is great! I love A3! (Especially "the assembly cut³)

    • @harlhequim
      @harlhequim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mood and music inside that space monastery is unrivaled in ANY of the Alien movies, including the first one.
      The problem starts at the end, with Ripley's death.
      That fact, condemned economically that movie over any other.
      Every premise about this movie starts with a recount of its troubles, probably because of Fincher's known frustrations about it, but if looked objectively, its evident is one of the grittier, coolest movies of the genre.
      It's The Name of the Rose from outerspace.

  • @Zatzzo
    @Zatzzo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    31:55 The first Alien film won the academy award for best visual effects.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're right, good catch.

  • @ThisVideoAnnoyedMe
    @ThisVideoAnnoyedMe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well, apparently you can also blame Sigourney "No Guns, Clone Me" Weaver too for ruining it...

  • @symmie666
    @symmie666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love Alien 3. Ever since i saw it in the cinema all those years ago it just gripped me.

  • @BloodylocksBathory
    @BloodylocksBathory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I liked the absence of firearms in the story. It definitely gives more of a survival horror edge and less of an action film (as much as I enjoy Aliens, I wasn't keen on the much smaller serving of outright horror). What a shame that too many cooks barged into the kitchen, it could've been something really unnerving and beautiful.

    • @Otokichi786
      @Otokichi786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "
      "Train To Busan" (2016) makes the "no guns" reality a marathon run through Hell.

    • @BloodylocksBathory
      @BloodylocksBathory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Otokichi786 good movie

    • @tronam
      @tronam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's true, although when I went to see Alien 3 opening night in theaters I didn't find it scary at all, which disappointed me a bit. Aliens may have been more action than haunted house film like Alien, but it ramped up the tension in ways that I never felt in Alien 3. I'm sure if Fincher had been given creative control it would've been a much better movie. I can understand why he's disowned it and never talks about it.

  • @thermonuclearcollider4418
    @thermonuclearcollider4418 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Alien 3" is very underrated. It does a couple of flaws, but it's still pretty great in its longer version (though a few things are better in the theatrical cut, like the Queen bursting out of Ripley at the end). The characters are so well-written, with some great dialogue exchanges, and the movie looks gorgeous: the idea of going the exact opposite of the previous movies and indulge in warm colors was just great. It also has an amazing soundtrack, probably the most distinctive in the series. I think people were too harsh on it because it wasn't a shoot 'em up like "Aliens". I remember in the late-90s somebody telling me "It's bad! There's only ONE monster in the whole movie!" and I was like "Well, that's the same as the first one...".

  • @ULYSSES-31
    @ULYSSES-31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Wooden Planet script was the best idea.

  • @m0istur
    @m0istur 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think their method of making an alien puppet and moving it looked unique for the time. It makes the alien look as real as using suits, even if in the movie it had flaws and looked like it was made using stop motion or cgi

  • @MooncubedesignAu
    @MooncubedesignAu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Crying shame what happened... perhaps Alien and Aliens were just too damn awesome to follow up on. Maybe the only way to successfully create a third instalment would have been a sincere focus on creativity, not money. I guess we will never know.

    • @happyhappyjoyjoy6563
      @happyhappyjoyjoy6563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i agree with that assessment, too much studio interference, conflicting ideas, completely profit driven without merit, they didnt know what they wanted to make.. but make it now, its gonna be a hit cause its out and we made it

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I think if they'd just let people do their job and stop dipping their fingers in the cookpot maybe it would have been good

  • @rustykilt
    @rustykilt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alien III, the Adult version of the Franchise, and the most atmospheric and intelligent.

    • @leesheppard6043
      @leesheppard6043 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zero atmosphere compared to the earlier films.

  • @KurtRiley
    @KurtRiley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dynamic, concise overview. Troubled production notwithstanding, Fincher's aesthetic and tone is stunningly haunting.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It shows his strength as a director that it's still pretty easy to identify the movie as his

  • @MegaBillAnderson
    @MegaBillAnderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was excellent. Clear and concise. Well researched, presented and edited. This is my first video of yours. I will be watching more. Really well done.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I try to keep my standards high and my topics varied. Hopefully you'll enjoy my other videos just as much

  • @sgarden9111
    @sgarden9111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alien 3 wasn't the only Alien film to be nominated for an Academy award for special effects; Alien was also nominated for best visual effects and for art direction as well and actually won the award for visual effects. It remains the only Oscar any of the Alien films ever won, at least the Sigourney Weaver ones to my knowledge. Great video anyway. I like how you mentioned the part where the studio tried to force Fasano to preserve Ripley and the whole preist CPR thing. What a horrible idea that would have been. I never liked the idea of a wooden planet myself either. Personally I love Alien 3 and am overall very happy with the movie we got despite its flaws. A ton of disastrous script ideas were avoided throughout the production and it really becomes clear just how truly awful the movie almost was many different times. It's a miracle it came out as great as it is.

    • @ANONYMOUS-tg2tq
      @ANONYMOUS-tg2tq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aliens get 7 oscar nomination
      Best actress
      Best score
      Best art direction
      Best sound
      Best film editing
      2 wins
      Best VFX
      Best sound mixing

  • @matthewmccarty6508
    @matthewmccarty6508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    David Fincher is hands down my favorite director. I think Alien 3 and its troubled production, pushed him in the right direction and stand up for his creative vision going forward…His next film was Seven for gods sake!

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can you believe seven did not get nominated for any awards at all? But shakespeare in love took home an Oscar in the same year?

    • @matthewmccarty6508
      @matthewmccarty6508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unbelievable, right?!?

    • @matthewmccarty6508
      @matthewmccarty6508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was just heavy, heavy influence by the Weinsteins…

    • @matthewmccarty6508
      @matthewmccarty6508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PeakedInterest also just wanted to say really enjoying your content. Glad the Almighty algorithm led me in your direction :-)

  • @AdamT-88
    @AdamT-88 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Alien 3, particularly the Assembly Cut. The fact this film struggled so much in production and still came out as good as it was is insane.

  • @kosaragolemshinska
    @kosaragolemshinska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great video, it's very well researched and the presentation was spot on. I'm surprised the channel hasn't blown up more yet.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I love your name where is it from?

    • @kosaragolemshinska
      @kosaragolemshinska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PeakedInterest Thank you, too! I actually get a lot of puzzled looks when someone tries to read it :) I'm Bulgarian and the name is traditionally Bulgarian, too.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its a lovely name

  • @catmeifyoucan4649
    @catmeifyoucan4649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With the Alien franchise being my all time favorite movie franchise because I'm a horror/creature movie buff, I actually really liked Alien 3. All of Fincher's movies are spectacular, he's so talented. Good video, this told a story that I had no idea about - Thanks.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much for watching.

  • @chaistoplaster
    @chaistoplaster ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t tell you how many times I go back and revisit this video, once again listening to it right meow.

  • @MrZoolook
    @MrZoolook ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always tell people to watch the Assembly cut of this film. It's honestly the best version.

  • @onkkell
    @onkkell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The crazy thing is that at the end of all this lies a pretty damn good movie, somehow
    probably thanks to Fincher
    and Elliot Goldenthal

  • @benriddings
    @benriddings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Alien 3 is my preferred movie of the trilogy.

  • @darkwoods1954
    @darkwoods1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always thought Alien 3 was a great ending to the Ripley story. Especially if you amalgamate the theatrical and extended cuts of the film.

  • @MyCatInABox
    @MyCatInABox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So-
    I just finished watching your "Thalassaphobia" video, and now I'm watching this one...you got some really, REALLY good stuff.
    I'm now a Subscriber, and a die-hard fan.

  • @robertspencer1205
    @robertspencer1205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well done, Lee.
    Keep up the good work! 👍

  • @zacharyantle7940
    @zacharyantle7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fabulous. I knew the production of this was a nightmare but JESUS. You should look into Once Upon a Time In America for video, it’s so fascinating how eviscerated that wound up being.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As long as the videos perform well I'll make more in this series but I'll be having a little break from long content for a month or two now. I've just done two 30min+ videos in quick succession

  • @ewaf88
    @ewaf88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video. I enjoyed all the interesting details.
    A pity that the David version can never be assembled

  • @ryanlewis9953
    @ryanlewis9953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay, Alien 3 isn’t that bad. It’s too bad the studio got involved. Alien 3 had that potential a great film.

  • @Danrw44
    @Danrw44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job. Learned a lot in this one - more than others in fact. And the few funny turns of phrase were much appreciated - I laughed out loud a few times. Anyway, well done.

  • @mygumybear
    @mygumybear 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alien 3 is one of the best written character arc for both Dylan & Clemens. It was story over spectacle. The scene where Clemens runs with Ripley body form the beach to save her, in term of tone, music, visuals is simply awesome. Till today all the Alien series except for Alien 3 doesn't have serious character arch. Watched Alien 3 couple of times and it never bores you.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. It's a great movie which is disliked because people loved aliens and just wanted the same again.

  • @miinyoo
    @miinyoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cold and calculated criticism. Love it. Really good. Work on your audio leveling and consistency which I'm sure you thought of in the intervening 9 months.

  • @martinharris5017
    @martinharris5017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although I found Alien 3 very disappointing on seeing it at the movies, I did enjoy the "Assembly cut" re-release. Still hated the ending either way.

  • @lumrejington
    @lumrejington 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    wow. criminally underrated channel. this shit rocks dude, keep it up

  • @josiahstoehr1297
    @josiahstoehr1297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's the first time I've known specifics about the script and shooting process. I love Alien 3 as it is, I can't wrap my head around the idea that it was made in these circumstances. If only it could be possible to go back in time and have Fincher do exactly the film he wanted... That would be incredible.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed. I'm a huge fincher fan and I'd have loved to see the movie he wanted to make. It scared him away from big budget movies for a long time and almost made him go back to music video production. What a loss that would have been

  • @brianclifford5791
    @brianclifford5791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! What another very interesting video. I do very much like a couple of David Fincher movies I've seen, (and in particular 'The Game'). I am very saddened he has quit Film making.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I'm a huge David fincher fan and it probably shows in my defence of the movie.

  • @xenomorphlover
    @xenomorphlover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was my first Alien movie and will remain my favorite ever...

  • @GFrom
    @GFrom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am really impressed. Great work on the Video!

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I try to make sure I give full effort so the positive feedback is nice

  • @joceilievski
    @joceilievski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG Sigourney at 15:57!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥😍😍

  • @mhoppy6639
    @mhoppy6639 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finche’s subsequent body of work pretty much vindicates his decision-making throughout the state of flux that existed whilst Alien cubed was being shot.
    Nobody’s celebrating the stellar careers of suits at Fox - I hope that some of them learnt something about delegation and interference from the way that the final film came about.
    Great vid.

  • @balthazarasquith
    @balthazarasquith 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man. Can't stop laughing at the whippet though 😅

  • @djrudd8455
    @djrudd8455 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I LOVE Alien3, it's so grim and tragic and operatic, so rich in symbolism and such a profound meditation on grief, fate and fatalism, redemption and sacrifice, the first two are technically better, more cohesive films and I love them too but A3 affected me deeply in ways they didn't. And apart from a couple of dodgy compositing shots it LOOKS absolutely stunning. A real shame it was such an ordeal for Fincher and everyone else involved, and that so many people refuse to look for its merits and just write it off because it isn't more like Aliens.

  • @chaistoplaster
    @chaistoplaster ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! Happy holidays, are you ever planning on doing a video on fincher’s comeback? Would love a video of him doing Seven.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Se7en is my all time favourite movie. I'm a bit scared to make a video on it 😅

    • @chaistoplaster
      @chaistoplaster ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeakedInterest If you ever do, take your time, make it a redemption video for Fincher (Just an opinion but I trust any direction you take) this is my 7th time I’ve watched this vid, along with your other videos. Would be a shame not to have like a sequel to finchers story arc.

  • @Prawduk730
    @Prawduk730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If 20th century fox rekindles relationship with David Fincher, perhaps we could get a David Finchers Directors Cut of Alien 3 but that’s just wishful thinking.

  • @sirgorash5704
    @sirgorash5704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember Alien 3 as different from it's predecessors and still a great movie!

  • @garethjohnstone8662
    @garethjohnstone8662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I liked Alien 3 a lot. And I am a serious Alien(s) fan. Even own a pulse rifle. The cast in Alien 3 was fantastic. Brian Glover, Charles Dance, Pete Postlethwaite etc. The special edition really adds a lot to the film. CGI was used and, back then, it wasn't too convincing. I would still always prefer a dude in a suit, like in the first 2, over CGI even now. I've listened to the Gibson full script, too. It's available here on YT. Pretty good. Alien Resurrection was absolute garbage. Fantastic video, by the way.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Totally agree with everything you said. The first version of the script is the best one. Didn't care for any of the revisions at all

  • @BS-hk8yi
    @BS-hk8yi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It made me want to riot when I saw it on the day it was released...

  • @SleezyMoves
    @SleezyMoves 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn this is quality content and great editing!

  • @musk3644
    @musk3644 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So good. Thank you!

  • @harlhequim
    @harlhequim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mood and music inside that space monastery is unrivaled in ANY of the Alien movies, including the first one.
    The problem starts at the end, with Ripley's death.
    That fact, condemned economically that movie over any other.
    Every premise about this movie starts with a recount of its troubles, probably because of Fincher's known frustrations about it, but if looked objectively, its evident is one of the grittier, coolest movies of the genre.
    It's The Name of the Rose from outerspace.

  • @xenomorphlover
    @xenomorphlover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    21:28 I'm happy that a Lannister approves 👌

  • @Alienmojo
    @Alienmojo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I liked this much more than ALIENS believe it or not. The characters, the actors, the music, the cinematography, and the mood of the movie were incredible. Poorly done cgi though and they chopped the hell out of it. Can you imagine how good it would have been had they gone with the Gibson script? And speaking as someone who knows just about everything about ALIEN... you did an awesome job on this. Lots of little things I rarely hear from other youtubers. And Fincher is god. Screw Cameron. ;)

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you. I treat the research portion of my videos very seriously and I fully believe there is not a piece of material about this movie that I didnt see. I like to be thorough

    • @darkwoods1954
      @darkwoods1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. Though it wasn't poor CGI, it was a rod puppet. It just wasn't imposed into the movie well.

    • @Alienmojo
      @Alienmojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkwoods1954 Not all rod puppet was it? I know close-ups were real. The running alien was rod... yeah... your right. Maybe they SHOULD have used cgi! LOL

    • @darkwoods1954
      @darkwoods1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Alienmojo I think the only CGI moment was when the Aliens head cracks. CGI to clean up around the edges of the rod puppet would make a lot of difference.

    • @miller-joel
      @miller-joel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PeakedInterestSorry, but you left out the biggest behind-the-scenes piece. Rex Pickett.

  • @NathanTarantlawriter
    @NathanTarantlawriter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This explains a lot abut why this movie was so much less than the others in so many ways.

  • @PizzaDaddy101
    @PizzaDaddy101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see David Fincher make another Alien film where he has more creative control while subtly flipping the bird at FOX. Although that would likely never happen

  • @rohanalias9053
    @rohanalias9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the reason why Fincher is kind of annoyed by studios like marvel .he despises studio interference

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's pretty accurate. I don't think he'd be too impressed with their extremely tight schedules either

  • @thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117
    @thatllputmarzipaninyourpie3117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only thing that irritates me more than Alien 3 itself, are people who try to convince me that's it's a good movie.

  • @retter2critical
    @retter2critical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:57 What do you mean by "its the only film of the series with its own individual look"? The original has a very unique aesthetic we had never seen before.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Industrial space had been done a few years before by John carpenter in dark Star. Scott refined the look and drastically improved it for alien but it wasn't new.
      Also I was referring to how its colour graded and lit too

    • @retter2critical
      @retter2critical 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeakedInterest Thats what I was referring to, not that it was on space ships, but the colour and lighting, it was like a complete re-vamping of film noir aesthetic, a film that would define the 80s BUT made in the late 70s. The use of thick atmosphere. Scott was really the first to put a certain stamp on cinema with that glossy advertising-influenced take on film noir. Part of a school of "British Visual Stylists". Fincher's film, though lacking that high contrast and having its own unique muted colour palette, must also be seen as being visually dirivitive of the original Alien.
      For the record, I quite like the Special Edition cut of this film, its just that the third act drags on too much. Everying before that is very interesting. I actually prefer it to Aliens, because it returns to a more serious tone, pristine and perfect cinemascope attack on the subject matter. In that sense, its more true to the original.. Aliens with that goofy car looks like it was designed to sell toys.
      Good video overall, I had just watched all the extra features on the Alien 3 special edition... This covered much of that, but with some new angles and information they would never include. So thanks for putting it together.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem at all, I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
      I think that's fair what you said about the revised film noir look of alien.

  • @Ashkeaval
    @Ashkeaval 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video nice job

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I put a lot of time and effort into my videos so it's nice to hear that's reflected in the final product.

  • @GarrettLoganGriffin
    @GarrettLoganGriffin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alien 3 is hands down my favorite Alien movie. That assembly cut is something else man. Just makes it a more cohesive piece of cinema. Although I still like the dog from the theatrical cut as the host rather than the ox from the assembly cut. I feel like critics have proven themselves as inconsequential to the perception of movies. The audience always knows. And I never hear your average Joe hating on Alien 3. Great fuckin movie, man.

  • @teresawyatt6825
    @teresawyatt6825 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alec Baldwin...that went so wrong. Looking back to find your shows. LOVE all you do.

  • @non.local.quantum.circuit
    @non.local.quantum.circuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alien 3 is gorgeous, it has its flaws, but this heavy nihilistic atmosphere and religious references make it much, much better than Aliens, which for me with its ideas destroyed this mysterious, miraculous figure of the Alien.

  • @PurpleSnakeScumBags
    @PurpleSnakeScumBags 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want the dramatised audio series sea of sorrows River of pain and I can't remember the rest but they got hicks and nute, hicks was in 2,and Ash was still.... about....in 1. they would of been amazing I got every audio and love listening to the actual movies and the dramatised audios in order its like one massive movie with a bonus on the 3rd they wrote another short version read by Bishop 😃

  • @Vavanne33
    @Vavanne33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, 4700 views for such a quality video ? I guess youtube algorythm isn't giving you the fame you deserve

  • @jymihawk2740
    @jymihawk2740 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good info

  • @Sabowie
    @Sabowie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor Finchy! Sounds like a really crappy time

  • @joceilievski
    @joceilievski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the film being set in a prison, it gave a gritty quality the first two didnt have. Overall I liked it. It must be incredibly stressful to take on the project that follows the two best sci-fi films of all time. I mean how in the hell do you surpass Aliens? It did manage to provide one of the top iconic scenes of the entire series, the part where the alien and ripley are face to face, she winces and turns away in fear as it very slowly gets closer and closer and all we hear is it breathing before it retreats.
    You watch this almost exclusively for Sigourney who in my eyes can do no wrong and is the most versatile actress in Hollywood.

  • @Filmmaker809
    @Filmmaker809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very much enjoyed this. I knew when I used to live in Scotland what a mightmare Alien 3 was for David Fincher. Its always put me off making films in America. That's why I prefer films in Europe or the UK. Though our industry is suffering more so now in the Uk because of bloody Hollywood.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a very difficult industry in which every person in the chain thinks it's "their" movie. If you ever saw the doc the death of superman lives it perfectly illustrated this problem. Also it's a great watch

    • @Filmmaker809
      @Filmmaker809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PeakedInterest Thanks man. Death of Superman? Is it something to do with Superman with Christopher Reeve?

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Filmmaker809 no it's called the death of superman lives and it's the development hell documentary of the movie Kevin Smith tried to get into production and was just met with ridiculous producers the whole way. It certainly reflects my experience of the industry anyway

    • @Filmmaker809
      @Filmmaker809 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PeakedInterest Thank you so much. Love Kevin Smith.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Filmmaker809 me too. Genuinely worth a watch. Really good doc.

  • @leesheppard6043
    @leesheppard6043 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It never occurred to all these studio apes that Aliens was the end of the franchise.
    Anything for a dollar.

  • @ngonzale3
    @ngonzale3 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Somehow, It's still good. And the music of Elliot Goldenthal is among the best sci-fi scores.

  • @spiderpickle3255
    @spiderpickle3255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see Alien 3 as basically a polished turd of it's time which has aged well because of how well polished it is in spite of what it is.
    We were coming out of the 80's with some pretty massive, well fleshed films with big budgets that did well. The year before Alien 3, Terminator 2 blew audiences away and the hype and hopes for the third installment after Cameron's action masterpiece were going to be nigh impossible to meet.
    I like Alien 3 as my 2nd favorite in the franchise. It's flawed but there's something there that makes up for those flaws if you give it it's fair shot.

  • @babarizam4525
    @babarizam4525 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He is a franchise killer. Both for Alien and Star Wars.

  • @finncustomtile
    @finncustomtile 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a kid, Alien 3 was my favorite one.

  • @singaporeghostclub
    @singaporeghostclub 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best closure to the Alien trilogy…
    until resurrection and other movies related to it destroyed it

  • @AdmiralBison
    @AdmiralBison 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IF studio execs are so creative and love to interfere so much in the original vision of movies,
    why don't they don the director's hat and just directly make the god damn movies themselves?!?
    BUT that would mean they would get the credit AND the blame.

  • @ElPato_rof
    @ElPato_rof หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a big fan of Alien franchise, inlcuding novels and comics I hated alien 3 when released. Now in perspective I have learned to apreciate its value. Its not my favorite, but is a good closure to the trilogy. Prometheus and coventant are not cannon for me. And Alien 4 its a funny experiment.

  • @negatywny.2005
    @negatywny.2005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn. Alien 3 Assembyl Cut has so many new scenes. Like the one with Golic... I completely dont understand this hate !!! The movie was supposed to be sad, dark, depressing... The first hit in the face is Newt's and Hick's death. And that's good. Because you are devastated during Newt's autopsy. The conversation with Bishop. Makes you feel really bad. Then the end. Ripley with....inside. Her death. Youre done!!! This movie is a perfect ending of saga.

  • @sethstewart9704
    @sethstewart9704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that Fincher could take such garbage input and put together a serviceable film is commendable. I enjoy Alien 3, and while it's not as good a watch as the first two, it has its charm.

  • @wynfrithnichtwo8423
    @wynfrithnichtwo8423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything needs more pulse rifle! Honestly I do not know what would have made a better Alien 3. Maybe nothing should have been done with it. The egg/s and facehuggers issue always bugged me. Where did it come from? I ended up blaming Bishop for it. Many do because it is the only explanation. Colony room full of samples and Bishop being off screen and away for a significant period of time. That line of thinking though tarnishes Bishop’s character, but it does give the only explanation for where the eggs or facehuggers.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aliens did paint bishop as shifty at times. I always felt that was a misstep by Cameron

    • @5wheels178
      @5wheels178 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PeakedInterest it's a red herring, a deliberate technique that gives his arc in Aliens more impact.

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since the Cold War never ended and threatens a return to the Warsaw Pact era if Putin gets his way, William Gibson's version still works.')

  • @gutsandblood9875
    @gutsandblood9875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like his movies but was never keen on his screenplay

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which screenplay lol there are about 17 different versions just that I read

  • @poloshirtsamurai
    @poloshirtsamurai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alien 3 is my favorite. Followed by Alien then Aliens and then Alien Resurrection.

  • @jrapp1468
    @jrapp1468 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you insane? This video is really good and well made but you only made one of these? I went to your channel ready to binge watch like 5 more just to find out you only made this one? I watched one of your murder mystery videos but I’m not sure it holds up to this. Your style, your pace, and narration is perfect for his concept. You could dedicate your entire channel to it.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to make more movie videos, there's one of the same type about the crow. I get bored staying in one genre and moved away from movies, ill be moving away from crime soon too

    • @jrapp1468
      @jrapp1468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PeakedInterest Gotcha. For what it’s worth I thought this was really well done.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jrapp1468 thanks. I appreciate that. Might be worth finding my video on the crow because it's the same type of video looking at why the movie had so much trouble

  • @MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch
    @MaryBrownIsTheBlairWitch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And despite it all, Fincher made a very good movie.

  • @singaporeghostclub
    @singaporeghostclub 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fox Studios is Weyland-Yutani.
    “Crew Expendable.”

  • @pyrobison2002
    @pyrobison2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoy alien 3 for what we got

  • @DriverDown....
    @DriverDown.... 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say man, that was real cool.
    Thank You.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for taking the time to watch

  • @mykal.7424
    @mykal.7424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a fan of Alien 3. The Assembly cut is the best cut, but still a mess of writing and production problems . As much as i used to like Sigourney Weaver she is also responsible for a lot of the mess behind the scenes and her treatment of Ralph Brown

  • @smalltown2223
    @smalltown2223 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know why people slam this film, l really liked it. Granted it’s not as good as the first two, but isn’t that the way it goes.

  • @steveissexy
    @steveissexy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    alien 3 rocked.more scary than aliens.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like 1 2 and 3

    • @steveissexy
      @steveissexy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeakedInterest 1 is my favourite

    • @leesheppard6043
      @leesheppard6043 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I fell asleep during 3.
      In the theater.
      I've seen scarier stuff in the back of my fridge.

    • @PeakedInterest
      @PeakedInterest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @leesheppard6043 there's always one....
      Everyone has their preferences. I didn't find it scary either but I do enjoy the movie.

  • @insidiousballer5775
    @insidiousballer5775 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The director's cut is a completely different movie.

  • @maxjoseph06
    @maxjoseph06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't know Fincher directed Aliens 3.

  • @liskeke
    @liskeke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't Weaver shave her head twice tho?

  • @jataviouswilliamson976
    @jataviouswilliamson976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going To The Alien xenomorphs HomeWorld idea would I've been The Best idea with The King Alien On The Alien xenomorphs HomeWorld

  • @keeponplaying
    @keeponplaying 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Okay, I have to weigh in on this.
    The whole Alien 3 production saga is one of the most melodramatic Hollywood behind the scenes facades of all time.
    Thousands of movies have gone through countless script re-writes, heavy editing and changing directors. Fincher was hired to take over for another writer/director who had been fired, Vincent Ward. HE is the man who's "vision was compromised" NOT DAVID FINCHER. Fincher didn't have "a vision", he was not the writer, he was a director for hire, and came in when the majority of the story had already been decided on by the producers. People did not like the move for those decisions that were made. You cannot blame that on the production.
    He was clearly VERY ungrateful to be in the director's chair, and he clashed with the producer's over money...That's it!
    Audiences didn't like the bleakness of the story, killing of all the major characters, and poor story continuity(the unexplained egg for example). And on that matter, I read that Fincher's response was "The audience was just never suppose to question it". I strongly object to him washing his hands of it and pretending he was wronged just because his ego got hurt. HE was a huge part of the problem. And considering he walked away from the film before editing, any complaints in that department by him are also void.
    There is not one single scene or element that can actually be named that he didn't get to do. There was even a story about Fox refusing him to film a scene, so he grabbed a camera himself and filmed and yes..it is even in the final film. Jesus, people. How can so many people misinterpret what actually happens? Sorry for the rant, but this was a long time coming.

    • @BS-hk8yi
      @BS-hk8yi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a writer, all the staffing stuff aside, your story is doomed when you kill off most of the characters you spent time getting fans to care about. It's basic human psychology. It wouldn't have mattered what they made after that, it would all have been a flop...

    • @gerbs4009
      @gerbs4009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      First sensible and accurate response I have read. London film industry was awash with reports of his behaviour at the time.

  • @Penhauer
    @Penhauer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jodorowsky's Dune is obviously the greatest sci-fi never made.

  • @sherbournesubwaymess
    @sherbournesubwaymess ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weaver clause: "No guns"
    Patrick Stewart Clause: "No TNG cast"
    Whenever actors get involved in the creative process, they wreck things.

  • @VenusHeadTrap2
    @VenusHeadTrap2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice typo. Should be called "Fincher's Alien 3"

  • @petervlcko4858
    @petervlcko4858 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They have no script and start production. Yeah. 👍 if you say that nobody will believe.

  • @bigkrutherford
    @bigkrutherford 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't there guns in Aliens?