Just finished this retrofit, pretty straight forward thanks for Carl's help. Very happy with the heated steering wheel. I couldn't have done this work without this video's help. Much appreciated.
Amazing video, thank you for having it so in depth. I'm attempting this retrofit on my E88 1 series, which was never produced with a heated steering wheel, so hepefully it goes well and I can get it to work :D
Hi greezy_goblin thank you too for your comments 🤗 i’m happy you like it and i hope the video helps. E88 has common steering wheel with the E9x so I believe you can easily find a perfect one for your project. Please send me photos of your success project! I want to share with everyone here 🤩🙏
Please help with this. How did you manage to plug 2 x12 sockets as it is shown at 22:04 at the back of the clock spring, when at 2:51 you have used the clock spring on the right (that I do have as well.. ready to install). You had on the old clockspring 12 and 6 plugs plugged in the back (one for airbag and one for buttons on the steering) then you converted into 2 12 pin sockets. This is what bothers me (big time ) because I know I cannot add any more wires for the airbag (as my model of the clock spring has only 2x6 pins (at the top of the clock spring!) and cables for the heating..) from the old one (12 and 6pins) to new one (12 and 12)... What I am Missing!?
Hi Dimitris, the main reason is I ran out of terminal 15 points. There was only one available on the fuse box, but I have several devices that need to use terminal 15. So I extended the terminal with relays. This is not original equipment but I think it’s safer than just tapping wires for electrical power from the original circuit. Thank you for giving me the chance to explain! You are very welcome to suggest other ideas about how could I do this 🤗
You are an absolute gem for me because you tried to make changes to an existing wiring of the car! But your car is much newer than mine... Now I am trying to implement the heated steering wheel that I have. But, the 12 pins plug that the car has it already, is the model with steering wheel airbag that (probably) is using all 12 pins, because is an older model of the car (2005) with Airbag Gas Generator... that probably triggers locally the airbag... What compromise or adaptation can be made in this situation? I do have access to newtis to check and change as much as possible. I would like to share some pictures of the plug and other stuff.. that is already in the car (the 12 pins one..). Or I can make a list of the colour of each cable that are in those pins.. if that help you with suggestions for me. I really want to adapt this heated steering to my car! I do have the clock spring as well with the socket that has 1-6 then 7,9,10,12 pins for internal resistance of the steering and the termistor.. Please guide me, if you can or have any suggestions! You know already how much I am greatfull for your sharing experience! :)
Hi SD thank you! I am also curious about the wiring on your car. Could you please share me with the VIN so I can check the options you have and the wiring diagrams. Please send me via funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com !
Thank you Damon! Also biggest thanks to those who shared their findings on the forums, so I can summarize such video and contribute too. Well, if not the COVID-19, I would not have so much time doing all this 😁 Now I become busy working again, really hope to have more time for more videos...
you are great man. very good video. i subscribed. I do not know if you mention the crimping toll in description. Where can I get something similar of a good quality. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the comments Socrate Disciple's, my pleasure to share what I know. I hope you find something useful in the video! The connector contacts on BMW are made by TE Connectivity (marked Tyco in earlier cars) or AMP. TE also sells crimping tools and you can find the online catalog here: www.te.com/usa-en/plp/hand-crimping-tools/Y30yD.html I bought the crimper from a Japanese brand "Engineer" but I found the size of the crimping jaw does not perfectly match the TE contacts. I guess their standards are different. I was not knowledgeable and experienced at that time. Now I recommend you TE tools for the best efficiency. Please let me know what you choose!
@@funcarsgoodpeople I have heard about Engineer tool made by Japan. I have very few, I like them; they quite precise made but as you said probably won't match perfect the TE Connectivity connector prior crimping.
If I am allowed to add another comment, could tell the value of the resistance that is in the steering? That will be a fabulous answer for me! I would be a forever subscriber.. 😊😊 I do intend to fit a heated steering wheel to my car but I only can find second hand, the car being too old (2005). And, do you know if a heated steering wheel from 2007 onwards does fit to 2005, in terms of column and those splines, Do they match? How those controllers for heat are different one from another? Only that one that is in the steering wheel and other is located at the top.. are any of them with more or less that 4 wires connected to/from heat controller? Thank you!
Hello SD, your comments are always welcome! I am going to replace the steering wheel cover soon, so I will take that chance to measure the resistance of the heating coil and let you know! For the steering wheel compatibility, I think the chance is high! A lot of models share with same steering wheel! I always use realoem.com to check. Select your car model and browse to the steering page. click on the part number of the steering wheel and you will see what other models use this part. My 2008 M3 shares the steering wheel with E8x 1’ from 2003 to 2011. So the spline is the same! Let me know if this works for you!
Carl, if I am allowed, how important is to have 25 and 7 pins connected through that connector (min 26:37 ), negativ or ground of the heating control module and ground of switch of the controller? Can we just earth them 2 to the ground of the car? My 2005 bimmer doea not have pin 25 and 7 available and I cannot find any other available devices connected through that connector x14272 or A4010.. with options to ground 2 wires?. In a mean time, I only can find good words for you. I completely loved the Enginner crip tool. Not a single fail in crimping those small terminals! Absolute briliant tool for the money!! As well i do not know how you could find 0.75 mm square cable with insulation slim enogh to accomodate the insulation, the terminal amd the cable in those plugs. Not an eaay job. I find silicon multi stranded cable but they were a bit to thick...
Hello SD, in fact, I also grounded that two wires to the earth point below the passengers foot well carpet. I did so because I mistook the X14272 connector and there was no space for me either. But I can guarantee you that the method I showed in the video is exactly the same as the original wiring diagram. I believe your car has some other modules that is occupying these two pins. Don’t worry about it 👌🏻 And for the small gauge wire. I sourced them from anotherparted E92. If you can find a whole bundle of wiring harnesses for the iDrive head unit. Just get them and you will have a plenty gauges of original wires available. Thank you for the feedback. I am very happy. My video is helpful for your project. 🤗
@@funcarsgoodpeople your project is a bless for those who are interested to make the modification. Don't take to heart any critics. Some might be constructive.. but some, you don't know what's really behind them because no one take their time to explain. Your videos (all three) regarding electrical fuse board modifications are extremely well done! And this is coming from a hand on tools and with knowledge in fault finding qualified electrician. I will connect them 2 wires to the negative somewhere near the fuse board at dedicated point of connection. It is a bless to work with that Engineer Crimp tool! I probably said I managed to find 1mm cross section silicon insulation multi-stranded cable (with literally hundreds of wires in the core..) very specific use in cars wiring system. I stripped down the insulation just before the crimped terminal entry into the connector case... and put a heat-shrink (having a thinner insulation wall..) over it then pushed the pins inside careful. The other similar cable roll that I had was 0.5 square mm.. which was a bit to thin for 5A I was thinking, with almost the same diameter as 1mm.. Bye the way, I found out that the current pushed in the resistive side of the wheel is PWM, pulse width modulated.. Thank you again for your quick reply! Have a nice day!
Thank you! SD your work sounds so delicate! Could you please share some photos of your work? I also found a tutorial manual about crimping. Maybe you would like to read it too 🤗 Please drop me an email to funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com
Hey I know this video is a bit older but maybe you can help me. The m3 never had the heated steering wheel right? And non M models never had the option to get heated steering with leather. Usually it's always the hard polyurethane. How did you get yours in leather? Was it reupholstered?
Hello Xantor thank you for the question! This was one of the big projects so I still have some fresh memory about it 🤗 I believe that the heated steering wheel I got is from E70, although there are no part numbers on it. It’s artificial leather so the feel is not that good as the original Novillo leather ☹️, as I mentioned in the video. It’s pretty easy to find a heated steering wheel for this project. And I think it is a good idea to reupholster the heated steering wheel to match the interior upholstery 👍
@@funcarsgoodpeople but yours was with leather and M stitching right? Or did I muss something. Because the polyurethane one is just "basic" black without the soft touch and the stitching
Hi Xantor I misunderstood your question 😅 I got this heated steering wheel from eBay. The item name was “BMW M SPORT TECH 1/3/X E82/E87/E90/92/84 NEW NAPPA LEATHER HEATED SW THICK&SOFT” and it referred to part number 61316956550 and 61316944816. The seller is atlanticship and they shipped from Belarus. I chose it after carefully looking at the shape and style which suit my “stock” M3 😂 However you can still tell the difference by its texture. Looks and feels real plastic. So maybe you can get one with the shape you like and have it re-upholstered with the material you prefer 🤗
Great detail! I just finished this on my F30. Question: I noticed the wiring diagram calls for a 10A fuse but your test shows only 5A current. I realized that I used only a 5A fuse and am considering moving up to a 10A now, just to be safe. Are you able to look up on ISTA if a 10A fuse is necessay on an F30 model (2015 328i)? Thanks and great job - subbed!
Hi José thank you for your feedback! I’m glad to hear your success! According to the F30 wiring diagram yes a 10A fuse on F48 is used for the heated steering wheel. I think it’s safe to use 5A as far as the fuse stay intact. But if a 15A fuse can get blown for the steering wheel, there must be something wrong! You are welcome to mail me for the wiring diagrams 🤗
Hi Jack yes, the part number I listed here is the one with the 4-pin harness as you mentioned. However the actual one I got is another clockspring with 3-pin harness. The main body is the same so I modified it to the 4-pin harness as you see in the video. In another words, if you could only find a clockspring with 3-pin, you can also modify it like I did.
I did one retrofit the back doors modules i put thre windows shades but now the windows dont go down and the doors dont locks the only thing that works now is just the windows shades work and the soft close doors dont work also i dont know how to program the door modules so everything will work again i need help thanks
Hi baby z I got your message. Sounds interesting! Could you please send the information over to funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com so I can take a look? Any link, webpage or tutorial video that you used for the retrofit?
i just have one question. my car already has an heated steering wheel but i want to add the m sport steering wheel. now my problem is finding a heated steering wheel. is it possible to convert a steering to be heated or do i have to specifically buy a heated steering wheel.
Hi xkhan175 thank you for your question! My suggestions are; 1. Good news you already have the heating function. You are going to make it more easily. If you have an E9x, you need to look for a steering wheel with heater control module inside. 2. First you can look for styles of the heated steering wheels you like. I started with the ones that fit E-generations because the pinion mechanism of the F-generation does not match. I'm not 100% sure. This one in the video comes from E70 X5 or X6 I believe. Maybe there are some aftermarket ones that can fit E9x. 3. If you don't like any of them. Sure you can convert one! I think you can use the heater pad and control module from your original heated steering wheel, and combine with a M Sport style one. Best luck with your project! You are very welcome to share your success here!
Hi, I have a question regarding the heater pad. I bought the standard steering wheel not that sport one you had and it was impossible to remove the heater pad from the original leather. As I see you wheel has new leather on it not the factory. Did you had any problem removing and refitting the heater pad? If not I will buy that sport steering wheel and fit the pad into my M wheel. (I just dont want to waste another steering wheel and money on the project :D) Thanks!
Hello Benedek! I bought the whole steering wheel and I guess it was from an E70 X5. Thank you for telling us about the difficulties of isolating the heater pad, I really didn’t know that. But I believe the glue will be some trouble and it requires good leather work. I think it’s cool to “transplant” the heater pad and skin to another steering wheel, or to “implant” a new heater pad. I’ve seen such heater pads on the net. Will they be your option?
@@funcarsgoodpeople I was looking for an aftermarket heating pad. There are some good ones on aliexpress. However I want to keep the OEM look and the e90 controller wont control anything but the oem heating pad, so I want to transplant the pad to my M steering wheel.
You are right! There’s safety concerns about the electrical power modules. So OE will be best choice. I do not have experience doing the skin of the steering wheel but I believe it’s possible. Please let us know your result and best luck👍
@@funcarsgoodpeople Just for reference. The sport steering wheel's heating pad is much much easier to separate from the leather (the normal is nearly impossible). However the pad will not fit perfectly to an M steering wheel but it is doable. Now I have my heated M steering wheel with paddles and everything. Thanks for the video and the diy that gave me the courage to start. :)
Hello Samuel thank you for the question 😅 My bad if I didn't make it more clear. There are 3 wires coming out from the steering wheel switch cluster to the fusebox; Wire 1: the 12V power from terminal 15. Pin #9 BL/GN in the video 17:18 . Wire 2: the ground. Wire 3: the ground. Pin #7 BL/BR in the video 17:18 . I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions!
Hello Socrate Disciple's, I collected all these parts from the Internet. Yeah it's a bit tedious I agree but since there's no retrofit kit available, so we just have to go stright with it. Here I recommend a few online shops for you; Schmiedmann Odense, ECS Tuning and FCP Euro. Just search the part numbers I listed in the description and you can compare availability and price easily. Good luck!
Just realised the mistake I made thinking that those 2 plugs 2x12 gets plugged only in the clock spring. Wrong. The clock springs plugs into DTC module (disk) through 6 pins while the other 6 (later 12 pins that you modified from 6 gets everything else..
Hi SD yes you’ve got it! Maybe I did not explain clearly enough. Thank you very much for making it clear. You have the right click spring so there’s less to prepare!
Hello Patryk yes! The E60 has similar structure of the steering wheel heater. Please look for the heated steering wheel: 32346763360/32346763374/32346763387. The heater switch (located besides the steering column adjuster switch) cluster: 61316947788/61316947787. Steering wheel electronics control unit: 61316953321/61316953322. I think these are essential parts for E60 and there are some other peripheral parts like connectors and trim panels. Please visit realoem.com and check the parts that fit to option code S248A=Yes (steering wheel heater.)
If my car has lane departure warning would that mean I need to source a SZL slip ring with obvs heated option as well as Lane departure? Thanks in advance
Hi Patryk thank you. The option code for lane departure warning is S5ADA (or 5AD). When I check realoem.com catalog, the SZLs are neither dependent to S5ADA nor S248A. This means lane departure warning and heated steering wheel do not require special part number of the SZL. Your original SZL may work. Best wishes for your success! (I do not have your VIN for using realoem.com so my result may not be 100% precise.)
Hello Magnar do you mean the wiring diagram of the circuits inside A72 SZL module? Unfortunately this is not found in ISTA. There are no detail circuit diagram of any the modules. I show everything I can find in this video. Actually, the steering wheel heating circuit does not go into A72 SZL. The connector X10171 is right on the clock spring. The pin assignments of X10171 are shown at 16:52 and 17:23 And if you are curious about the original 12-pin connector X1880 on the A72 SZL, I can send you its pin assignment (PIB). Please send an email to funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com!
@@funcarsgoodpeople Hi! Yes, I would love to have the pinout of X1880, as I'm trying to reverse engineer, and use this steering wheel with stalk in another car/setup, and need to connect power and canbus to a sniffer :)
Hi Shadman I sourced these original wire from another E92. The seller sold me the entire wiring harness of the infotainment/audio system so I had extra materials to use. You can also look for suitable wires in electrics shop. Just be careful with buying correct gauges!
Hello CrispCarGuru, I searched the part for 335i with steptronic (should be the DCT you are mentioning about) and heater, it is 32306795573, Airbag sport st. whl. lthr Steptronic. I know some 335i can swap M3 DCT steering wheel directly, while some need to modify the shift paddle circuit for their transmission. I have no information about this part so you are welcome to share your success here! Please let everybody know!
Hi JustBeingHonest the total is roughly 500USD. I get the parts used from eBay and Yahoo. The major parts are; Heated steering wheel $399 USD Heater control module $29.99 USD Clockspring $980 JPY~ 10USD Lower cover $35 USD
Hello fly bobbie yes you are right 😂 Now I feel like a heated shifter for the manual transmission, which is never available on all cars. A glove will be an easier solution!
Video is way too long, I want to get into this project however there’s not a chance I’ll be listening to your ESL voice more than 2 minutes 🤣 learn to structure your videos better and not waste viewers time. Abit if editing goes a long way
Hi CatchMeFlyingByInMy335I thank you for the comments! I really appreciate it! This is one part of the earliest videos I made for this channel. I admit I was very inexperienced at two years ago and yes the video does not look like the way I will do it now. It is indeed too long so I had to split it into four episodes ... Anyway it's like a record of my growth! I still have fun reviewing how silly I had done. But if you have time, please kindly review my recent DIY videos and let me know if I have done better; Apple CarPlay Installation: th-cam.com/video/mBttAW5qnHI/w-d-xo.html MDrive Retrofit: th-cam.com/video/hIKka5dYtp0/w-d-xo.html and sure you can mute the video and use the CC to see what I want to say 🤗 I did not invent these DIYs. I am willing to share with everyone what I learned. Let me know if you have any question about the videos! Best, Carl
I enjoyed the long form video very technical and detailed. If you continue to record and edit this way archive them or create a patreon I would pay for the additional detail akin to a ebook or guide.
His video is extremely detailed. Stop bringing un-necessary critics. Start doing this porject THEN you will realise how much more you need to know and find out by yourself as well.. It is easy to tell someone how not to do somenthing and harder to do yourself!
Hello Cole, on the E9x the steering wheel heating is not controlled by any module so coding is not necessary. However if you really want to make it 100% OE, just add VO (vehicle order) "$248" to CAS and NFRM/FRM so that's all. On F-series and so on, coding is required but I don't have the experience so far 🤗 thank you for the question!
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Just finished this retrofit, pretty straight forward thanks for Carl's help. Very happy with the heated steering wheel. I couldn't have done this work without this video's help. Much appreciated.
Thank you Kevin for the great news! I am happy to help 🤗 Please come back and let us know how it works for you in the winter time. Enjoy!
I've been searching high and low for a video like this; I'm so glad I found this. You smashed it, Carl.
Hi Uchenna thank you! I am happy that you find it helpful 🤗 come back and share with us your tips and thoughts!
I am about to do this retrofit thank you for your excellent videos. Please continue to keep it up!!!!
Thank you for the comments! Please come back anytime to share your progress 🤗 My busy working season has just gone, next video is coming soon!
This is one of the best DIY videos Ive ever watched. Great job.
Thank you 🤗 fastrandstrongr I’m happy you like it. Please come back for more DIY videos 🙏
Subscribed! Watched the whole video and will be doing my own heated steering wheel retrofit according to this video.
Hi Lucius thank you! I am happy this video is useful to you. Come back and share with us your tips!
Carl, thank you so much for this video and the work you have done! Subscribed!
Thank you Stavros! My pleasure 🤗 see you soon!
Brilliant video and great DIY skills! Thank you so much, it was very clear and easy to understand. Keep up the great work
Hello Surty, thank you very much for the comment. I’m glad it helps, come back often! 🤗
Amazing video, thank you for having it so in depth. I'm attempting this retrofit on my E88 1 series, which was never produced with a heated steering wheel, so hepefully it goes well and I can get it to work :D
Hi greezy_goblin thank you too for your comments 🤗 i’m happy you like it and i hope the video helps. E88 has common steering wheel with the E9x so I believe you can easily find a perfect one for your project. Please send me photos of your success project! I want to share with everyone here 🤩🙏
Please help with this. How did you manage to plug 2 x12 sockets as it is shown at 22:04 at the back of the clock spring, when at 2:51 you have used the clock spring on the right (that I do have as well.. ready to install). You had on the old clockspring 12 and 6 plugs plugged in the back (one for airbag and one for buttons on the steering) then you converted into 2 12 pin sockets.
This is what bothers me (big time ) because I know I cannot add any more wires for the airbag (as my model of the clock spring has only 2x6 pins (at the top of the clock spring!) and cables for the heating..) from the old one (12 and 6pins) to new one (12 and 12)... What I am Missing!?
I didn’t understand why you add relays ? It is and the original equipment?? Or you add it your self for more safe
Hi Dimitris, the main reason is I ran out of terminal 15 points. There was only one available on the fuse box, but I have several devices that need to use terminal 15. So I extended the terminal with relays.
This is not original equipment but I think it’s safer than just tapping wires for electrical power from the original circuit.
Thank you for giving me the chance to explain! You are very welcome to suggest other ideas about how could I do this 🤗
@@funcarsgoodpeople thank you very much my next diy thanks to you in the heated steering wheel 💪🏻💪🏻
Good luck and let us know your success! And any question is welcomed here or via email: funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com
You are an absolute gem for me because you tried to make changes to an existing wiring of the car! But your car is much newer than mine...
Now I am trying to implement the heated steering wheel that I have. But, the 12 pins plug that the car has it already, is the model with steering wheel airbag that (probably) is using all 12 pins, because is an older model of the car (2005) with Airbag Gas Generator... that probably triggers locally the airbag...
What compromise or adaptation can be made in this situation?
I do have access to newtis to check and change as much as possible. I would like to share some pictures of the plug and other stuff.. that is already in the car (the 12 pins one..). Or I can make a list of the colour of each cable that are in those pins.. if that help you with suggestions for me.
I really want to adapt this heated steering to my car! I do have the clock spring as well with the socket that has 1-6 then 7,9,10,12 pins for internal resistance of the steering and the termistor..
Please guide me, if you can or have any suggestions! You know already how much I am greatfull for your sharing experience! :)
Hi SD thank you! I am also curious about the wiring on your car. Could you please share me with the VIN so I can check the options you have and the wiring diagrams.
Please send me via funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com !
good job you are smart funny and brave
Thank you Damon! Also biggest thanks to those who shared their findings on the forums, so I can summarize such video and contribute too. Well, if not the COVID-19, I would not have so much time doing all this 😁 Now I become busy working again, really hope to have more time for more videos...
you are great man. very good video. i subscribed. I do not know if you mention the crimping toll in description. Where can I get something similar of a good quality. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the comments Socrate Disciple's, my pleasure to share what I know. I hope you find something useful in the video!
The connector contacts on BMW are made by TE Connectivity (marked Tyco in earlier cars) or AMP. TE also sells crimping tools and you can find the online catalog here: www.te.com/usa-en/plp/hand-crimping-tools/Y30yD.html
I bought the crimper from a Japanese brand "Engineer" but I found the size of the crimping jaw does not perfectly match the TE contacts. I guess their standards are different. I was not knowledgeable and experienced at that time. Now I recommend you TE tools for the best efficiency. Please let me know what you choose!
@@funcarsgoodpeople a perfect response!
@@funcarsgoodpeople I will let you know as i love to have all the best tools and everything I need. THANK YOU for guidance!
@@funcarsgoodpeople I have heard about Engineer tool made by Japan. I have very few, I like them; they quite precise made but as you said probably won't match perfect the TE Connectivity connector prior crimping.
You are very welcome@@MrFryfish ! I always have fun doing the crimping job. And this makes our DIY project very professional. You will love it!
If I am allowed to add another comment, could tell the value of the resistance that is in the steering? That will be a fabulous answer for me! I would be a forever subscriber.. 😊😊 I do intend to fit a heated steering wheel to my car but I only can find second hand, the car being too old (2005). And, do you know if a heated steering wheel from 2007 onwards does fit to 2005, in terms of column and those splines, Do they match?
How those controllers for heat are different one from another? Only that one that is in the steering wheel and other is located at the top.. are any of them with more or less that 4 wires connected to/from heat controller?
Thank you!
Hello SD, your comments are always welcome!
I am going to replace the steering wheel cover soon, so I will take that chance to measure the resistance of the heating coil and let you know!
For the steering wheel compatibility, I think the chance is high! A lot of models share with same steering wheel! I always use realoem.com to check. Select your car model and browse to the steering page. click on the part number of the steering wheel and you will see what other models use this part. My 2008 M3 shares the steering wheel with E8x 1’ from 2003 to 2011. So the spline is the same!
Let me know if this works for you!
I also changed the front door modules so the mirrors can fold but nothing also dont work now
Carl, if I am allowed, how important is to have 25 and 7 pins connected through that connector (min 26:37 ), negativ or ground of the heating control module and ground of switch of the controller?
Can we just earth them 2 to the ground of the car?
My 2005 bimmer doea not have pin 25 and 7 available and I cannot find any other available devices connected through that connector x14272 or A4010.. with options to ground 2 wires?.
In a mean time, I only can find good words for you. I completely loved the Enginner crip tool. Not a single fail in crimping those small terminals! Absolute briliant tool for the money!!
As well i do not know how you could find 0.75 mm square cable with insulation slim enogh to accomodate the insulation, the terminal amd the cable in those plugs. Not an eaay job. I find silicon multi stranded cable but they were a bit to thick...
Hello SD, in fact, I also grounded that two wires to the earth point below the passengers foot well carpet. I did so because I mistook the X14272 connector and there was no space for me either. But I can guarantee you that the method I showed in the video is exactly the same as the original wiring diagram. I believe your car has some other modules that is occupying these two pins. Don’t worry about it 👌🏻
And for the small gauge wire. I sourced them from anotherparted E92. If you can find a whole bundle of wiring harnesses for the iDrive head unit. Just get them and you will have a plenty gauges of original wires available. Thank you for the feedback. I am very happy. My video is helpful for your project. 🤗
@@funcarsgoodpeople your project is a bless for those who are interested to make the modification. Don't take to heart any critics. Some might be constructive.. but some, you don't know what's really behind them because no one take their time to explain. Your videos (all three) regarding electrical fuse board modifications are extremely well done!
And this is coming from a hand on tools and with knowledge in fault finding qualified electrician.
I will connect them 2 wires to the negative somewhere near the fuse board at dedicated point of connection.
It is a bless to work with that Engineer Crimp tool!
I probably said I managed to find 1mm cross section silicon insulation multi-stranded cable (with literally hundreds of wires in the core..) very specific use in cars wiring system. I stripped down the insulation just before the crimped terminal entry into the connector case... and put a heat-shrink (having a thinner insulation wall..) over it then pushed the pins inside careful.
The other similar cable roll that I had was 0.5 square mm.. which was a bit to thin for 5A I was thinking, with almost the same diameter as 1mm..
Bye the way, I found out that the current pushed in the resistive side of the wheel is PWM, pulse width modulated..
Thank you again for your quick reply!
Have a nice day!
Thank you! SD your work sounds so delicate! Could you please share some photos of your work? I also found a tutorial manual about crimping. Maybe you would like to read it too 🤗 Please drop me an email to funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com
Amazing Super Vid!
Hi XtaticVideo thank you 🤗 I’m happy you like it!
Hey I know this video is a bit older but maybe you can help me.
The m3 never had the heated steering wheel right? And non M models never had the option to get heated steering with leather. Usually it's always the hard polyurethane. How did you get yours in leather? Was it reupholstered?
Hello Xantor thank you for the question! This was one of the big projects so I still have some fresh memory about it 🤗
I believe that the heated steering wheel I got is from E70, although there are no part numbers on it. It’s artificial leather so the feel is not that good as the original Novillo leather ☹️, as I mentioned in the video.
It’s pretty easy to find a heated steering wheel for this project. And I think it is a good idea to reupholster the heated steering wheel to match the interior upholstery 👍
@@funcarsgoodpeople but yours was with leather and M stitching right? Or did I muss something. Because the polyurethane one is just "basic" black without the soft touch and the stitching
Hi Xantor I misunderstood your question 😅 I got this heated steering wheel from eBay. The item name was “BMW M SPORT TECH 1/3/X E82/E87/E90/92/84 NEW NAPPA LEATHER HEATED SW THICK&SOFT” and it referred to part number 61316956550 and 61316944816. The seller is atlanticship and they shipped from Belarus.
I chose it after carefully looking at the shape and style which suit my “stock” M3 😂 However you can still tell the difference by its texture. Looks and feels real plastic. So maybe you can get one with the shape you like and have it re-upholstered with the material you prefer 🤗
Great detail! I just finished this on my F30.
Question: I noticed the wiring diagram calls for a 10A fuse but your test shows only 5A current. I realized that I used only a 5A fuse and am considering moving up to a 10A now, just to be safe. Are you able to look up on ISTA if a 10A fuse is necessay on an F30 model (2015 328i)?
Thanks and great job - subbed!
Hi José thank you for your feedback! I’m glad to hear your success!
According to the F30 wiring diagram yes a 10A fuse on F48 is used for the heated steering wheel.
I think it’s safe to use 5A as far as the fuse stay intact. But if a 15A fuse can get blown for the steering wheel, there must be something wrong!
You are welcome to mail me for the wiring diagrams 🤗
@@funcarsgoodpeople Thank you for checking and confirming, I may just go out and switch the fuse to 10A to be safe.😁
Does the new clock spring come with that harness attached to it? (the one to the left of the two main connectors on the clock spring)
Hi Jack yes, the part number I listed here is the one with the 4-pin harness as you mentioned.
However the actual one I got is another clockspring with 3-pin harness. The main body is the same so I modified it to the 4-pin harness as you see in the video. In another words, if you could only find a clockspring with 3-pin, you can also modify it like I did.
你好，非常棒的DIY视频，很感谢。我想问一个问题，能否把原车的clock spring改造一下把4条线放进来？在加拿大heated clock spring要$300。另外请问安装完后有错误码吗？需要coding吗，我的车是pre-lci。再次感谢。
嗨！Kevin謝謝你的肯定！您可以搜尋一下clock spring的內部構造；低配是一條6路、高配是一條6路一條4路的纜線帶，環繞轉向柱中心，還需要抹上黃油潤滑，減少阻力避免絞斷。我認為是有機會改造成功的，但十分費工。因為E世代的電熱方向盤不由電腦控制，所以不會有錯誤碼，也不須coding的唷！很歡迎您的討論 🤗
試試看這張圖片連結（clock spring內部構造）：www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.e90post.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D795399&psig=AOvVaw0bswYWi6t_G8RMcIJHiSb-&ust=1653102221247000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAwQjRxqFwoTCJDrnfCL7fcCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
@@funcarsgoodpeople 谢谢，我看了太麻烦了。我的车没有换挡拨片，所以在气囊接口旁的方向盘多功能6针接口有2针是空的，能否接12v电到这两针上？
您好，沒有換檔撥片的話，確實是可以應用那2針的。您的點子很不錯，我查了一下線路圖，在轉向柱開關組背面的12針插頭X1880上，撥片為第2第4針、接地Terminal 31為第7針、紅火Terminal 15為第10針，說不定可以直接從這裡搭接取電？但是要注意電流規格就是了。
有需要任何資訊的話，請再來信funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com唷！
@@funcarsgoodpeople 谢谢这些重要的资讯。不知道原车游丝里的铜线的宽度能不能走大于5a的电流。很犹豫，😛。不过最坏的情况是断了，不能加热了。不会影响别的功能吧？
如您所說，電流過載必定會發熱，但熔燬的位置是無法保證的。撥桿開關組最重要的零件是轉向角感知器SZL，它故障的話會導致循跡防滑、定速巡航功能失效，還有一堆故障燈。所以還是盡量將功率裝置加在訊號線路上。
我的帶3線的游絲圈是來自X5的便宜零件，自己改裝第4款線上去的。您可以上網以圖搜看看是否有機會找到這樣相容的零件，祝好運！
I did one retrofit the back doors modules i put thre windows shades but now the windows dont go down and the doors dont locks the only thing that works now is just the windows shades work and the soft close doors dont work also i dont know how to program the door modules so everything will work again i need help thanks
Hi baby z I got your message. Sounds interesting! Could you please send the information over to funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com so I can take a look? Any link, webpage or tutorial video that you used for the retrofit?
i just have one question. my car already has an heated steering wheel but i want to add the m sport steering wheel. now my problem is finding a heated steering wheel. is it possible to convert a steering to be heated or do i have to specifically buy a heated steering wheel.
Hi xkhan175 thank you for your question! My suggestions are;
1. Good news you already have the heating function. You are going to make it more easily. If you have an E9x, you need to look for a steering wheel with heater control module inside.
2. First you can look for styles of the heated steering wheels you like. I started with the ones that fit E-generations because the pinion mechanism of the F-generation does not match. I'm not 100% sure. This one in the video comes from E70 X5 or X6 I believe. Maybe there are some aftermarket ones that can fit E9x.
3. If you don't like any of them. Sure you can convert one! I think you can use the heater pad and control module from your original heated steering wheel, and combine with a M Sport style one.
Best luck with your project! You are very welcome to share your success here!
Hi,
I have a question regarding the heater pad. I bought the standard steering wheel not that sport one you had and it was impossible to remove the heater pad from the original leather. As I see you wheel has new leather on it not the factory. Did you had any problem removing and refitting the heater pad? If not I will buy that sport steering wheel and fit the pad into my M wheel. (I just dont want to waste another steering wheel and money on the project :D)
Thanks!
Hello Benedek! I bought the whole steering wheel and I guess it was from an E70 X5.
Thank you for telling us about the difficulties of isolating the heater pad, I really didn’t know that. But I believe the glue will be some trouble and it requires good leather work.
I think it’s cool to “transplant” the heater pad and skin to another steering wheel, or to “implant” a new heater pad. I’ve seen such heater pads on the net. Will they be your option?
@@funcarsgoodpeople I was looking for an aftermarket heating pad. There are some good ones on aliexpress. However I want to keep the OEM look and the e90 controller wont control anything but the oem heating pad, so I want to transplant the pad to my M steering wheel.
You are right! There’s safety concerns about the electrical power modules. So OE will be best choice.
I do not have experience doing the skin of the steering wheel but I believe it’s possible. Please let us know your result and best luck👍
@@funcarsgoodpeople Just for reference. The sport steering wheel's heating pad is much much easier to separate from the leather (the normal is nearly impossible). However the pad will not fit perfectly to an M steering wheel but it is doable. Now I have my heated M steering wheel with paddles and everything. Thanks for the video and the diy that gave me the courage to start. :)
@@maszter100 Wow definitely good new. ANOTHER SUCCESS DIY! I am super happy you made it and thank you Benedek for the comments!❤❤❤
I keep getting lost on what wires go to the fuse box, i know wire 2 but where do the others come from?
Hello Samuel thank you for the question 😅 My bad if I didn't make it more clear.
There are 3 wires coming out from the steering wheel switch cluster to the fusebox;
Wire 1: the 12V power from terminal 15. Pin #9 BL/GN in the video 17:18 .
Wire 2: the ground.
Wire 3: the ground. Pin #7 BL/BR in the video 17:18 .
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions!
so where we can buy everything we need to retrofit a heating steering?
Hello Socrate Disciple's, I collected all these parts from the Internet. Yeah it's a bit tedious I agree but since there's no retrofit kit available, so we just have to go stright with it.
Here I recommend a few online shops for you; Schmiedmann Odense, ECS Tuning and FCP Euro. Just search the part numbers I listed in the description and you can compare availability and price easily. Good luck!
Just realised the mistake I made thinking that those 2 plugs 2x12 gets plugged only in the clock spring. Wrong. The clock springs plugs into DTC module (disk) through 6 pins while the other 6 (later 12 pins that you modified from 6 gets everything else..
Hi SD yes you’ve got it! Maybe I did not explain clearly enough. Thank you very much for making it clear.
You have the right click spring so there’s less to prepare!
Hi, can the same be done to an E60? Also whats the part number for the heating mat please😊
Hello Patryk yes! The E60 has similar structure of the steering wheel heater. Please look for the heated steering wheel: 32346763360/32346763374/32346763387.
The heater switch (located besides the steering column adjuster switch) cluster: 61316947788/61316947787.
Steering wheel electronics control unit: 61316953321/61316953322.
I think these are essential parts for E60 and there are some other peripheral parts like connectors and trim panels. Please visit realoem.com and check the parts that fit to option code S248A=Yes (steering wheel heater.)
Thanks alot, you're a legend!
If my car has lane departure warning would that mean I need to source a SZL slip ring with obvs heated option as well as Lane departure?
Thanks in advance
Hi Patryk thank you. The option code for lane departure warning is S5ADA (or 5AD). When I check realoem.com catalog, the SZLs are neither dependent to S5ADA nor S248A. This means lane departure warning and heated steering wheel do not require special part number of the SZL. Your original SZL may work. Best wishes for your success!
(I do not have your VIN for using realoem.com so my result may not be 100% precise.)
Do you have the wiring diagram for the 12pin connector on the szl module?
Hello Magnar do you mean the wiring diagram of the circuits inside A72 SZL module? Unfortunately this is not found in ISTA. There are no detail circuit diagram of any the modules. I show everything I can find in this video.
Actually, the steering wheel heating circuit does not go into A72 SZL. The connector X10171 is right on the clock spring. The pin assignments of X10171 are shown at 16:52 and 17:23
And if you are curious about the original 12-pin connector X1880 on the A72 SZL, I can send you its pin assignment (PIB). Please send an email to funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com!
@@funcarsgoodpeople
Hi! Yes, I would love to have the pinout of X1880, as I'm trying to reverse engineer, and use this steering wheel with stalk in another car/setup, and need to connect power and canbus to a sniffer :)
@@eMTeaM10 Sounds cool! Don't forget to drop me an email!
@@funcarsgoodpeople
I tried, not possible to send, not a valid email :(
Sorry my bad, typo of double L in the domain. 😅 funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com 🤗
The wiring diagram is only available for LCI models, but the heated steering wheel can fit *any E9x!*
電路圖僅能在LCI車款中查到，但是 *所有E9x* 都是可以加裝電熱方向盤的！
***Parts required***
Heated steering wheel 32 30 6 795 571
Heater control module 61 31 9 217 864
Heater switch 61 31 9 143 639
Heated switch socket 61 13 6 931 929
Clockspring 61 31 9 169 765
12-Pin socket housing 61 13 6 954 518/Tyco TE1718767-1
Lower trim of steering column 61 31 9 174 346
MQS pin contacts (male) 61 13 1 393 723
MQS pin contacts (female) 61 13 1 393 724
Double flat spring contact 61 13 8 364 583
10A Fuse (small)
Electrical wires (0.35 mm^2, 0.75 mm^2)
Tesa 51618 fleece tape
***必備零件***
電熱方向盤 32 30 6 795 571
電熱控制模組 61 31 9 217 864
電熱啟動開關 61 31 9 143 639
電熱啟動開關插頭 61 13 6 931 929
方向盤游絲圈 61 31 9 169 765
12腳插頭 61 13 6 954 518/Tyco TE1718767-1
方向盤基座下飾板 61 31 9 174 346
MQS端子（公） 61 13 1 393 723
MQS端子（母） 61 13 1 393 724
雙板簧端子 61 13 8 364 583
10安培保險絲（小）
電線 (0.35 mm^2, 0.75 mm^2)
Tesa 51618絨布膠帶
where did u get those blue wires
Hi Shadman I sourced these original wire from another E92. The seller sold me the entire wiring harness of the infotainment/audio system so I had extra materials to use.
You can also look for suitable wires in electrics shop. Just be careful with buying correct gauges!
do you know the dct heated wheel part number?
Hello CrispCarGuru, I searched the part for 335i with steptronic (should be the DCT you are mentioning about) and heater, it is 32306795573, Airbag sport st. whl. lthr Steptronic.
I know some 335i can swap M3 DCT steering wheel directly, while some need to modify the shift paddle circuit for their transmission.
I have no information about this part so you are welcome to share your success here! Please let everybody know!
@@funcarsgoodpeople thank you.
How much is all of this
Hi JustBeingHonest the total is roughly 500USD. I get the parts used from eBay and Yahoo. The major parts are;
Heated steering wheel $399 USD
Heater control module $29.99 USD
Clockspring $980 JPY~ 10USD
Lower cover $35 USD
Is your car burning bro 😄
Don't worry! It's the mosquito incense 😉 Mosquito is one of my difficulties working in the yard 😂 I really want an indoor garage!
Where can you receive personal messages or emails? Is that possible?
Sure SD, please send me via funcarsgoodpeople@gmail.com !
@@funcarsgoodpeople I just sent you an email. Thank you.
Hello SD I got your mail and comments. Will get back to you soon!
Pair of gloves is cheaper.
Hello fly bobbie yes you are right 😂
Now I feel like a heated shifter for the manual transmission, which is never available on all cars. A glove will be an easier solution!
feet 😁
Could you please give me a hint about what feet is 🤗
Video is way too long, I want to get into this project however there’s not a chance I’ll be listening to your ESL voice more than 2 minutes 🤣 learn to structure your videos better and not waste viewers time. Abit if editing goes a long way
Hi CatchMeFlyingByInMy335I thank you for the comments! I really appreciate it! This is one part of the earliest videos I made for this channel. I admit I was very inexperienced at two years ago and yes the video does not look like the way I will do it now. It is indeed too long so I had to split it into four episodes ... Anyway it's like a record of my growth! I still have fun reviewing how silly I had done.
But if you have time, please kindly review my recent DIY videos and let me know if I have done better;
Apple CarPlay Installation: th-cam.com/video/mBttAW5qnHI/w-d-xo.html
MDrive Retrofit: th-cam.com/video/hIKka5dYtp0/w-d-xo.html and sure you can mute the video and use the CC to see what I want to say 🤗
I did not invent these DIYs. I am willing to share with everyone what I learned. Let me know if you have any question about the videos!
Best,
Carl
I enjoyed the long form video very technical and detailed. If you continue to record and edit this way archive them or create a patreon I would pay for the additional detail akin to a ebook or guide.
His video is extremely detailed. Stop bringing un-necessary critics.
Start doing this porject THEN you will realise how much more you need to know and find out by yourself as well..
It is easy to tell someone how not to do somenthing and harder to do yourself!
How did you do the coding?
Hello Cole, on the E9x the steering wheel heating is not controlled by any module so coding is not necessary. However if you really want to make it 100% OE, just add VO (vehicle order) "$248" to CAS and NFRM/FRM so that's all.
On F-series and so on, coding is required but I don't have the experience so far 🤗 thank you for the question!