How does this video has so little likes, this is an amazing car. BBR220 has everything the ND2 misses. Perfect sportscar! I hope to own one someday (this from a F-Type owner)
Too few sales in the UK to those who want, or even think about, tuning an already great car and then there's the fact that few customers would be interested in buying a modified vehicle.
Been waiting a long time to see videos of this Super 220 package and was eager to hear that raised redline to 7800rpm. Hope there's more videos to come!
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS You have the ND1 or ND2? I never said that a stock ND2 feels identical to an S2000. You clearly have not driven an ND2 with BBR's Super 220 upgrade and Ohlins DFV suspension. Quit trying to object me for no reason.
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS Both are 2 seater RWD convertibles and both have: flared fenders from factory, 190hp per ton, double wishbone suspension, driver oriented cockpit, electric power steering, short shift manual transmission and both have engines placed behind the front axle. Joe's point is if you want to buy a brand new car that offers the closest experience to the S2000, the ND2 with BBR's Super 220 package is it.
Is it TÜV certified? If not, could we have two maps (one the original, the other the Super 220 specific) so we can switch them and be able to pass the ITV (Spain) or TÜV (Germany and Austria)? What a nice kit you’ve created :)
@@maccarioandrea I know. The original map would be used exclusively to pass the technical inspection, which is what they look at. They don’t open the engine at all.. Even with the aftermarket cams, using the stock tune shouldn’t really be a problem for the internals when used for such a short amount of time.
Do you guys plan to develop Individual Throttle Bodies or a carbon airbox for this car? Would love to hear even more induction noise with that increased redline at 7800rpm
Now that north american ND2 ecu has been unlocked can I use the bbr tune on north american ND2 ecu? Or can I buy european ecu and use that with north american car and ur tune?
Someone please explain the testing differences between the UK and the US where the ND2 was tested by several magazines @ 5.7-5.9 0-60? 220hp at his weight should put it closer to 5.0 flat by my calculations.
US magazines use the rule of 1 foot rollout. Plus 0-60 test in a RWD car without lunch control is not easy. You'll need pro driver. Plus A 981 Cayman with 260hp weight 1300kg which have the same power to weight ratio as the BBR220 MX5 have 0-60 time of 5.8 (manual).
Dear BBR GTI, I follow your advances since a long time as an MX-5 consumer since the NA (the first I drove eas one of your project turbo 1.6 MX-5). Now: The world want to see a comparision between the BBR GTI Turbo (210bhp) 1.5 ND MX-5 ...VS... the new BBR GTI (220bhp) 2019 2.0 ND MX-5. A full test withe measures, usability both daily use or circuit... 0-60 (0-100Kms/h), max speed mph (Km/h)... fuel consumption daily (city, road, highway, etc... in mpg and Liters/100kms)... sound... driving experience... etc. They are similar, we should have the graphic curves to compare also.... and maybe a dyno test! Please, BBR GTI, invite the press or invest in the future. I can do it if you want. I’m in Spain and Portugal, but I can go help you do that anywhere, why not here to promote your products?! I hope you can unswer my questions here and also on your site. Thanks and be safe! Best regards, José Pedro Pinto Email: josepinto11@gmail.com
@@BBRGTi_tuning also I have an unrelated question and I hope you can answer it quickly this way, but I have the super 200 kit but the redline max has increased from 6700 to 7000 top. I thought it would have been 7500 or is this false?
Nah..real world stock ND2 2.0 is more like low 6s at best. Many people tried to replicate that time and on the FB groups reported that 6s aren't even possible..the BBR 220 package is a huge upgrade if i could find someone to ship it to me lol
George Bugarin plenty of people get low six’s with used tires but by all means have fun with the upgrade. I for one would rather just invest in driver training and maybe better tires. After all if you can’t drive a slow car fast having more HP is not going to help. This video I link you to is a great example. It’s a professional driver in a naturally aspirated MX-5. Yeah he spanks the Porsche 911 driver. th-cam.com/video/tQ3x462rlmg/w-d-xo.html
Been a long time since the release of the BBR stage 2 Turbo kit. I don’t see any videos of these cars running. This is especially concerning since I’ve spent thousands and over a year building mine. I’m just now finishing the build and now in the tuning stage. I hope it’s worth the hype!
Kind of illustrates that with a light car, the weight of a passenger has a significant impact on acceleration. Now if your test driver was under 50kg, you might get down to a 5.2, and with remote control, and the seats removed you might get into the 4s! ;-)
forge wheels lithuim battary titanuim exhuast should get you more or less about 30kg of extra weight reduction without scraficing creature comfort the wheels well do a great deal for acleration
@@patthonsirilim5739 That would be fun, but you'd be sacrificing a huge amount of money to save weight that way. Losing weight, and taking things off the car is (more or less) free!
For heaven sake, the MX5 should never be about speed, or 0-60 times. The car is a throwback to those sublime British sports cars, from the 60s and 70s, such as the Frog Eye Sprite, the MGB or the Triumph Spitfire. Neither of those cars were fast, by today's standards, but they offered wind in your hair, and the perfect road manners and driver engagement. Top speed or acceleration never came into it, and my MD 1.5L is just poetry in motion.
This isn’t the old days anymore. We got FWD cars that move faster and handle great within the Dane price range. There isn’t any viable reason why the Miata couldn’t be more competitive, specially if they want to get younger buyers in to keep the ball rolling. Because right now they’re buyer base is mostly old retired men, and that’s not gonna sustain enough sales to justify production for much longer.
I love this car , i have one , this video is terrible, id never get a supercharger for .2 second increase, this car is not about 0-60 times , id buy a mustang gt if i wanted that , show me how this would improve my experience, if its .2 seconds 0-60 ill pass on that
John Dempsey this car is not super charged, it is a natural aspirated tuning pack from bbr taking it to 220 bhp. 5.6 to 60 is the time with this kit with two people in the car. 5.4 with just the driver.
@@zzkamikazezz some magazines have it at 5.7 stock , I feel comfortable that your numbers are more accurate, more real world, thanks for putting this out there, I'm going to read that article, I'm definitely interested in 220hp , my car has stock power but I've dialed in the suspension with sway bars and coilovers , it handles great but I love more power
@@dempsey3 5.7 is with rollout, and possibly on a very sticky drag strip, with perfect conditions. official mazda numer is 6.5s, which is reasonable and also what it did when bbr measured it before the tuning.
We're pleased that that's clearly not the case (no customer of ours, please do the cost comparison) and your ND with a map manifold would stand no chance against this! None the less happy MX-5 motoring.
BBR GTI I never became a customer of yours, BECAUSE of the lousy customer service. I have seen your header, its not even in the same ballpark as JDL. Not even going to mention you cold air intake, which looks like it was put together by a schoolboy and provides NO gains. I strongly urge everyone, who wants to improve their MX-5 ND to pick the best components, depending on the desired result. Your stuff may give some gains, but it is more marketing, than substance.
@@totkamacedonia1337 It seems so hard to find a really good cold air intake since most of them are taking air from behind the radiator instead of taking it from the OE bottom air duct (sadly, Injen for example its a fail imo)... Thats a very common fail, but as long as i know, the BBR seems to take the air from the correct way, not from behind the rad or inside the engine bay....
I am a BBR customer, and a VERY HAPPY customer. Brill customer service, fantastic results, they really know their stuff and love MX-5s. Great guys to deal with, and a lovely dog to welcome you in the waiting room. I know many very happy customers and I can unreservedly recommend them.
Samantha Jeffery Well, I guess everyone has a different experience. They were completely disinterested in me as a customer. And are definitely overpriced.
No music next time please. You're not saving the world, just showing a 5.4 sec 0-60 engine upgrade package. I want to hear how it sounds.
Adam Wilson wait, you mean to tell me this does not stop the spread of the corona virus?
100% agree. Let's hear the thing.
@@kencur9690 After watching this video I can confirm I don't have corona virus anymore
LOL
🤣 best comment ever
How does this video has so little likes, this is an amazing car. BBR220 has everything the ND2 misses. Perfect sportscar! I hope to own one someday (this from a F-Type owner)
Honestly Mazda should of just offer this from factory with the BBS wheels and Brembos.
Too few sales in the UK to those who want, or even think about, tuning an already great car and then there's the fact that few customers would be interested in buying a modified vehicle.
Probably because most of the video was out of focus
Been waiting a long time to see videos of this Super 220 package and was eager to hear that raised redline to 7800rpm. Hope there's more videos to come!
Getting rid of the passenger is always a nice mod
Any soundclips of full BBR exhaust sound outside the car?
If you want a modern day S2000, get the ND2 Mazda with this Super 220 upgrade, and change the suspension and sway bars.
Absolutely not
I own a ND and it’s nothing like a S2000
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS You have the ND1 or ND2? I never said that a stock ND2 feels identical to an S2000. You clearly have not driven an ND2 with BBR's Super 220 upgrade and Ohlins DFV suspension. Quit trying to object me for no reason.
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS Both are 2 seater RWD convertibles and both have: flared fenders from factory, 190hp per ton, double wishbone suspension, driver oriented cockpit, electric power steering, short shift manual transmission and both have engines placed behind the front axle. Joe's point is if you want to buy a brand new car that offers the closest experience to the S2000, the ND2 with BBR's Super 220 package is it.
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS You're talking absolute trash
@@joetaka7620 I owned a s2000 for a month and got rid of it awful car had 4 mx5s since
A bit downhill?
@bbrgti vous arrivez aremplacer les ressorts de soupapes sans déculasser?? Merci
Is it TÜV certified? If not, could we have two maps (one the original, the other the Super 220 specific) so we can switch them and be able to pass the ITV (Spain) or TÜV (Germany and Austria)?
What a nice kit you’ve created :)
its not just a tune, there are cams too
@@maccarioandrea I know. The original map would be used exclusively to pass the technical inspection, which is what they look at. They don’t open the engine at all.. Even with the aftermarket cams, using the stock tune shouldn’t really be a problem for the internals when used for such a short amount of time.
Do you guys plan to develop Individual Throttle Bodies or a carbon airbox for this car? Would love to hear even more induction noise with that increased redline at 7800rpm
Ive read ITB's are not feasible? with direct injection.
@@justins21482 The 2020 Porsche 911 Speedster uses individual throttle bodies for its direct injection engine.
We do plan to look into throttle bodies for the ND2 next year :)
@@BBRGTi_tuning Lovely!
@@BBRGTi_tuning and what about ITBs for ND1?
Thanks Neil, you guys are just terrific!!!
I'm so tempted to get this kit for my ND2.
I have the 190, i love the way it pushes me back in the seat when giving her the berries in third 😁
Hello, is it possible to develop a supercharger kit for Mazda 3 since it is more or less the same engine and the compression ratios are the same?
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Now that north american ND2 ecu has been unlocked can I use the bbr tune on north american ND2 ecu? Or can I buy european ecu and use that with north american car and ur tune?
Fab results, great work!
I would like to know if the BBR cams are compatible with a supercharger?
Someone please explain the testing differences between the UK and the US where the ND2 was tested by several magazines @ 5.7-5.9 0-60? 220hp at his weight should put it closer to 5.0 flat by my calculations.
US magazines use the rule of 1 foot rollout. Plus 0-60 test in a RWD car without lunch control is not easy. You'll need pro driver. Plus A 981 Cayman with 260hp weight 1300kg which have the same power to weight ratio as the BBR220 MX5 have 0-60 time of 5.8 (manual).
Hi , is there anyone kindly sharing the reliability about these kits? I’m really interested in it!
Could you tell me the offset of those OZ Ultraleggeras please? Been to your website and found them offered but no info about the offset
I had ultraleggeras in my NC and they were 17x8 et45. They are probably the same
AVEZ VOUS ESSAYEZ LA 2016-2017-2018 ? VOUS SEMBLEZ ETRE UN BON CONDUCTEUR .
I've just had a look and EVO quote 6.5s to 60 for the 'factory' 184bhp Mazda MX-5. The extra 36bhp makes quite a difference.
Remember its not just the extra peak power, its the average power increase across the rev band.
Every horsepower counts in a light car.
Increased redline = 1 less shift to 60
Most of the second gained has come from not having to change to third to hit 60 (rev limiter increased).
I think you gained a lot from not having to shift to 3th gear to reach 60 since the rev limiter is 300rpm higher.
Dear BBR GTI,
I follow your advances since a long time as an MX-5 consumer since the NA (the first I drove eas one of your project turbo 1.6 MX-5).
Now: The world want to see a comparision between the BBR GTI Turbo (210bhp) 1.5 ND MX-5 ...VS... the new BBR GTI (220bhp) 2019 2.0 ND MX-5.
A full test withe measures, usability both daily use or circuit... 0-60 (0-100Kms/h), max speed mph (Km/h)... fuel consumption daily (city, road, highway, etc... in mpg and Liters/100kms)... sound... driving experience... etc.
They are similar, we should have the graphic curves to compare also.... and maybe a dyno test!
Please, BBR GTI, invite the press or invest in the future. I can do it if you want. I’m in Spain and Portugal, but I can go help you do that anywhere, why not here to promote your products?!
I hope you can unswer my questions here and also on your site.
Thanks and be safe!
Best regards,
José Pedro Pinto
Email: josepinto11@gmail.com
What tyres are used to get the power down? Will it turbo?
Dima Yakubov thr cams are designed for NA use, not boosted.
Goodyear F1's, cam profile is for NA however we'll try as the timing is easily adjustable
I wonder how much this compares to my BBR super 200 (with the TIG pipe!)
It would be very close :)
@@BBRGTi_tuning also I have an unrelated question and I hope you can answer it quickly this way, but I have the super 200 kit but the redline max has increased from 6700 to 7000 top. I thought it would have been 7500 or is this false?
OK what do I have to do to my 2018 to make that happen?
Please guys, do a 1/4 mile test as well
The Mx-5nd2 with the 2.0 does 0-60 in 5.7sec so your video description is off and you reduced the 0-60 time by .3 of a second?
exactly, I'm very wary of this time? seems really high for a stock, as I own the 2020 club, and I can perform a much lower 0-60 time in my own car.
Nah..real world stock ND2 2.0 is more like low 6s at best. Many people tried to replicate that time and on the FB groups reported that 6s aren't even possible..the BBR 220 package is a huge upgrade if i could find someone to ship it to me lol
George Bugarin plenty of people get low six’s with used tires but by all means have fun with the upgrade. I for one would rather just invest in driver training and maybe better tires. After all if you can’t drive a slow car fast having more HP is not going to help. This video I link you to is a great example. It’s a professional driver in a naturally aspirated MX-5. Yeah he spanks the Porsche 911 driver. th-cam.com/video/tQ3x462rlmg/w-d-xo.html
@@TheChenny73 there is another video of a pro or test driver driving the ring in a stock ND2 as well..i think the channel is L'argus
@@TheChenny73 Honestly with the prices the MX-5 is at now, might as well just buy a faster car and get the driver training.
Awesome. Do the same test with the ND 1.5 turbo please.
Nice runs. I'd like to do this to my Miata one day. The music is perhaps a little dramatic. Actually not perhaps. It is :)
Was this test on stock tires? If not what tires were used?
delete music pls
Been a long time since the release of the BBR stage 2 Turbo kit. I don’t see any videos of these cars running. This is especially concerning since I’ve spent thousands and over a year building mine. I’m just now finishing the build and now in the tuning stage. I hope it’s worth the hype!
How did it pan out then?
With rollout?
Or the proper way with zero rollout?
Have you done this the with or without open exhaust line?
This has our optional exhaust
Where do I put my name down?
Great result.
Kind of illustrates that with a light car, the weight of a passenger has a significant impact on acceleration. Now if your test driver was under 50kg, you might get down to a 5.2, and with remote control, and the seats removed you might get into the 4s! ;-)
forge wheels lithuim battary titanuim exhuast should get you more or less about 30kg of extra weight reduction without scraficing creature comfort the wheels well do a great deal for acleration
@@patthonsirilim5739 That would be fun, but you'd be sacrificing a huge amount of money to save weight that way.
Losing weight, and taking things off the car is (more or less) free!
What's the new top speed after this mods?
probally 150-60mph stock car does 140 ish
Need the Remark WR-1 full race exhaust, incl headers. Then you will be making even more dramatic music than your current selection.
may I request a 0-100, 30-60, 45-60 60-80, 60-100
No.
Wtf is this music in the background
Isnt realistic at all you are driving on a little downhill, real will be 5.6 aprox
well done. thx
The road is downhill a bit
All awesome but that's some serious downhill...
Why is Morgan Freeman not narrating this?!
Can't be far off a base 981 Cayman
Before you do your next video, maybe sort your camera focus
Has there been any testing with the automatic?
Neil needs to work on his gear changes 😂
A little wager Tom, can you do better??
@@BBRGTi_tuning any car, any track, any day 🤔
Hi Thomas, have you got a channel where we can see your skills, and learn?
Why do people think the non-music ever helps this sort of video - sloppy production values - that is all the 'muzak' tells us.
You should step up your camera game….
well F type V6 380 4.8... i feel like i will buy an other miata xD
Keep the camera man of the drink next time maybe.
For heaven sake, the MX5 should never be about speed, or 0-60 times.
The car is a throwback to those sublime British sports cars, from the 60s and 70s, such as the Frog Eye Sprite, the MGB or the Triumph Spitfire.
Neither of those cars were fast, by today's standards, but they offered wind in your hair, and the perfect road manners and driver engagement.
Top speed or acceleration never came into it, and my MD 1.5L is just poetry in motion.
So we are all supposed to think just like you...get over yourself and realize that some people like it...and want to be even faster
This isn’t the old days anymore. We got FWD cars that move faster and handle great within the Dane price range. There isn’t any viable reason why the Miata couldn’t be more competitive, specially if they want to get younger buyers in to keep the ball rolling. Because right now they’re buyer base is mostly old retired men, and that’s not gonna sustain enough sales to justify production for much longer.
Love these cars 😁
I had the super 200 with full exhaust done in July on my nd and its absolutely insane.
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I love this car , i have one , this video is terrible, id never get a supercharger for .2 second increase, this car is not about 0-60 times , id buy a mustang gt if i wanted that , show me how this would improve my experience, if its .2 seconds 0-60 ill pass on that
John Dempsey this car is not super charged, it is a natural aspirated tuning pack from bbr taking it to 220 bhp. 5.6 to 60 is the time with this kit with two people in the car. 5.4 with just the driver.
@@zzkamikazezz ok
That's pretty sweet in that case , thanks for clarifying 220hp NA is awesome
John Dempsey it is a good improvement on the factory 6.5 seconds to 60
@@zzkamikazezz some magazines have it at 5.7 stock , I feel comfortable that your numbers are more accurate, more real world, thanks for putting this out there, I'm going to read that article, I'm definitely interested in 220hp , my car has stock power but I've dialed in the suspension with sway bars and coilovers , it handles great but I love more power
@@dempsey3 5.7 is with rollout, and possibly on a very sticky drag strip, with perfect conditions. official mazda numer is 6.5s, which is reasonable and also what it did when bbr measured it before the tuning.
Bad customer service and overpriced products. Ended up with OFT tune and JDL header. Same results, better service, way cheaper.
We're pleased that that's clearly not the case (no customer of ours, please do the cost comparison) and your ND with a map manifold would stand no chance against this! None the less happy MX-5 motoring.
BBR GTI I never became a customer of yours, BECAUSE of the lousy customer service. I have seen your header, its not even in the same ballpark as JDL. Not even going to mention you cold air intake, which looks like it was put together by a schoolboy and provides NO gains. I strongly urge everyone, who wants to improve their MX-5 ND to pick the best components, depending on the desired result. Your stuff may give some gains, but it is more marketing, than substance.
@@totkamacedonia1337 It seems so hard to find a really good cold air intake since most of them are taking air from behind the radiator instead of taking it from the OE bottom air duct (sadly, Injen for example its a fail imo)... Thats a very common fail, but as long as i know, the BBR seems to take the air from the correct way, not from behind the rad or inside the engine bay....
I am a BBR customer, and a VERY HAPPY customer. Brill customer service, fantastic results, they really know their stuff and love MX-5s. Great guys to deal with, and a lovely dog to welcome you in the waiting room. I know many very happy customers and I can unreservedly recommend them.
Samantha Jeffery Well, I guess everyone has a different experience. They were completely disinterested in me as a customer. And are definitely overpriced.
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