Oasis, The Beatles, Ocean Colour Scene and the La's...does a guitar demo get any better than this!! Thank you for taking me back to the 90's hey day of Brit Rock
Apart from the fact that it's such a cool guitar, I love that you're playing through an amp and a pedal that a lot of players would actually use. Far too many of these demo videos have guys playing through $3,500 -$4,000 hand wired "boutique" amps. Not a very accurate demonstration when the majority of us will be playing through more conventional amps.
My first Casino, was also my first NEW guitar, bought un '67 or'68! It was meant to be Cherry Burst, but the Cherry had sat in a window for too long, and took on a ripe Watermelon orange (ish) color!
I really like this overview video - really excellent playing, just the right amount of chat, and it's the first time I have really seen the finish - it looks fantastic. My only issue is the position of the lead plug - shame it's not on the side.
@@chicagomusicexchange Thanks. hugely appreciated, but I'm in the UK so shipping and taxes would put the price up too high. I LOVE the colour but I can buy one in another colour for £389 ( UK Pounds ) with free shipping over here. I would definitely have bought one from you, in that gorgeous Sunrise Orange, if it had been at all possible. Pete x
They should, they have way less DC resistance... 7.8k v 12-14k... much brighter and less treble loss with the metal pickup covers. CTS pots and orange drop caps too !
Yep. We in the west live to take advantage of barely live able wages for our luxury. China and Indonesia are terrible for wages. South Korea pays a decent living wage. PRS SE line used to be made there, but they went to Indonesia to make more profit. Reverend is made in South Korea and are loaded with custom appointments. Locking tuners, treble bleed circuit, baked necks, etc...
@@denismguitar1552 You bring up a great point. I'd gladly pay a few hundred more if hundreds of people got a wage that allowed them to provide for themselves & their families! sounds like South Korea might be a great sweet spot like you said.
Sounds great and it is sub $500. I wish they had a more natural stripped finish. At least you can see the wood grain through the finishes they do have.
Thanks ! As you're the only ones with that color (rather than Blue, Green and dark Grey) Any idea what sort of paint Epiphone is using on these ? I've got this same model in blue, it's beautiful, would like to get a similar aspect on other guitars
These are a special CME run. They do it all the time. My guess is they guarantee a certain # of sales and Manufacturers lower the wholesale cost. They had a great version of the Squier Jazzmaster last year and I am still kicking myself for not jumping on it. My advice; Get one.
It looks and sounds beautiful. But can anybody offer any insight as to why these are $200 cheaper than the previous model? That’s a suspicious price drop for what is essentially the same guitar.
I had the same question... A satin finish shouldn't make this guitar $200 cheaper. At first, I thought maybe these were 3-ply instead of the 5-ply construction of the regular Casino, but according to the specs on the Epiphone website, these are 5-ply too. I can't think of anything else that would knock $200 off the price.
@@Luthiart Right? Either they were heinously overcharging for the previous model (which is always possible), or they struck some dubious labor deal... or something. But I can’t help to be a bit suspicious.
And if they were overcharging for the previous model, why wouldn’t they drop the price on those? Why offer the same guitar with a slightly different finish at a dramatically lower price point?
OK, I hope you or someone can help and I truly appreciate any advice in advance. I bought a regular Casino a month ago. I like it a lot except for two issues: 1) Tuning: The tuning heads are so small it's annoying and awkward. I could live with them if the guitar stayed in tune but a few hard bends and it's gone. I know I can pay a luthier to replace them with Grovers or whatever, not sure how much that would cost...but would it help stay in tune? How can a $650 guitar have such bad tuners? 2) Playability: It's not awful but certain things seem "off". When I do big bends sometimes the adjacent string "pops" over the top of the string I'm bending. Never experienced that before. Also when I'm playing the higher frets, it takes more pressure and accuracy to get a clean and solid note. I have a week or two where I can still return it, and I played my 18 year old Schecter S1 Plus and NONE of the above issues exist, but I did have a setup done when I bought it. I forgot how smooth and buttery it was, cuz I've been playing almost all acoustic for the last 15 years. So, I was ready to pay for new tuners and a setup, and then I see the Casino Worn today. But it's $200 less! What's the catch? I checked Epiphone website see the fingerboard is not Pau Ferro and that the neck profile is different, (why the neck profile different on the "same" guitar?) but I'm not sure what that means in terms of playability which is very important to me. Are the pickups the exact same? Are the fret sizes the same? I went to Epiphone website to compare but a lot of it is vague. The regular says "5 layered maple" and the Worn says "Maple" on Epiphone website. I love the Worn look, and I'm thinking "If I'm gonna put $200 into it after the fact, am I better off buying the cheaper Worn version b/c in end I'll end up at the same place for less money?" But is it likely that a setup will fix the playability issues? Will the Worn one still not be as good because of inferior materials? Ugh!
Tuning stability is almost always an issue with the nut, not the tuners. Do you hear any "pinging" sounds while you're tuning the guitar? That means the strings are binding in the slots and need to be filed or lubricated. Or just replace it with a bone nut.
It’s a preference thing. Aside from Fenders Daphne Blue I loathe blue on a guitar.
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@@g.d.h. Gary I understand it's a preference but it wouldn't be an option if the guitar makers didn't push it and the people buy them! Does anyone buy a new car and say...oh..I want it with scratches, "Patina" rust look? No they. want a shinny new glossy car!
@well, I bought a standard VS Casino a few years ago with the thick gloss poly. Earlier this year I spent two weeks knocking it down, thinning it as much as I could. Not only does the resulting semi-gloss look better than the dipped-in-plastic look it had (my opinion of course), but the thinner finish let the guitar vibrate and resonate more. A lot more - it wasn't a subtle difference. So if the worn finish is thin, as I expect it is, I would also expect these to be livelier guitars than the standard gloss. I would have been happy with one of these (but probably the black one - I'm not a big fan of blue, either).
This is a real bargain (if you like the Orange), it's 200 less than Sweetwaters price and sports the Nickel hardware and p/u covers as opposed to chrome. Buy this guitar and some Turtle Wax auto polish. $449 + $6 and do your car also.
The stock pickups on my 2016 Casino were over-wound to 13k (!) with 43 awg wire, and they sounded dark, muddy and noisy as hell. I sent them out to be re-wound to vintage spec with 42 awg by Buddha Pickups, and now they sound fantastic! I don't know what Epiphone was thinking... The construction of the 2016 Casino is way better than my old Korean one, but the pickups are way worse.
Do people actually like satin or are companies just saturating the market that players have no choice but get satin finishes? I kinda can't stand satin finishes. I think people are tricked into thinking it's more akin to old nitro finishes, but it's really not. I dunno. Just my opinion but I really really don't care for satin
Nah that's perfectly reasonable. I think it follows a common trend is resistant materials processing and preservation last 20 years. Any product can now come in a satin-feel 'premium' package and guitars are no exception.
Haha. I can't stand glossy finishes. Before I had to sand down guitars to get rid of it, so quite happy that there are now more models for everybody's taste. :-)
In low to midrange cost guitars (Epiphone and Squier for example), the gloss they put on is usually very heavy and distracting to the overall finish. They do this because believe it or not, that kind of finish is cheaper and drys faster. I prefer a thin coat gloss or a satin because it enhances wood grain or color finishes and doesn't chip. This is a nice looking guitar, if you like the Orange over the maple.
I usually prefer Indonesian (or US, Mexico) made guitars but I had a Chinese made John Lennon Casino and that was probably one of the best guitars I have played, and one of the best looking as well. Of course that was in a different price range, but it shows that the skill in crafting is there. In the end I had to get rid of it as I was too scared to put a dent in it and ruin a perfect guitar. :-)
My 2016 Chinese Casino makes my old Korean one feel like a TOY by comparison. The body is 5-ply laminate, as opposed to the 3-ply of the Korean Casinos, and it just feels over-all like a more solidly built instrument. The guitars Epiphone was making in China between 2010 and 2015 were pretty dodgy, but after 2015, they really stepped up their game across most of their product line. If you directly compare a Casino made in 2015, or later, to any Korean-made Casino, I think you'll notice a palpable difference. The only caveat are the pickups. For some reason, Epiphone thought it would be a good idea to drastically over-wind the pickups with thinner wire, which makes them sound dark and noisy as hell. I sent mine out to be re-wound to vintage spec by Buddha Pickups, and now that guitar is nearly perfect. Almost as good as the Elitist Casino I used to own.
@@Luthiart That's fair enough dude, thanks for your input. There's probably some variation across the years and factories, I'm referring to my Samicks, a '95 Joe Pass and '97 Sheraton and honestly I don't think you can pick up a Chinese guitar that feels anything like them honestly. Honestly, I'd love to be proven wrong, despite their horrendous labour conditions. Maybe the Peerless Casinos were never that amazing?
I have a 2018 Chinese build and Epiphone had already worked out all of the kinks in that factory. It feels and plays great. Peerless go for 1,000 or more. Other more specified versions like the Revolution (made in US) or the Japanese elitists can fetch 2 - 3000 used. Thanks to CNC manufacturing, the country of origin is less of a factor in quality than it used to be. So for average players like me these are a great bargain and sound great.
You must admit, it is the one color most players won't already have and Epiphone doesn't want a $449 Casino to compete with their traditional line of Natural and Vintage colors.
Would that be a human rights nightmare made China guitar? Or a .65/hr Indonesian? Let’s not support that! At least World Music in South Korea pays a good living wage ($9-11/hr)and support freedom.
Oasis, The Beatles, Ocean Colour Scene and the La's...does a guitar demo get any better than this!! Thank you for taking me back to the 90's hey day of Brit Rock
Epiphone and Squier have really stepped up their game!
Apart from the fact that it's such a cool guitar, I love that you're playing through an amp and a pedal that a lot of players would actually use. Far too many of these demo videos have guys playing through $3,500 -$4,000 hand wired "boutique" amps. Not a very accurate demonstration when the majority of us will be playing through more conventional amps.
Best sounding Casino demo i've heard
That Oasis opening was everything
What a beautiful rendition of In My Life. I wanna play like that.
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of the 4 worn colours THIS is the best
My first Casino, was also my first NEW guitar, bought un '67 or'68! It was meant to be Cherry Burst, but the Cherry had sat in a window for too long, and took on a ripe Watermelon orange (ish) color!
Casino’s played through Fender Amps is a magic combination.
One of Lennons most beautiful pieces of music ♥️
I'm equally impressed by the amp. Tonemaster sure can bring it, even with op-amps.
I ordered mine a week ago! I should have it before the end of the month. 😎
Now that is a wonderful color.
There she goes!
"I live my life in the city...there's no easy way out..." 🙌 great video
Great player here 🙏
Either I am really deaf or this thing is going to inspire every hand to touch it. A very nice treat!!
Your finger style playing is beautiful!
Thank you for putting the songs you played!
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I really hope Epiphone will make some Lefty Versions of it. Fingers crossed. I would buy one
Oh man, that's a sweet color, wish it was regular
They're beautiful. Whoever gets them are lucky folks.
And the poor folks that built them for nearly nothing are the unlucky folks.
I have one in "Natural Blonde". Casinos are the KINGS of HARMONIC feedback.
I really like this overview video - really excellent playing, just the right amount of chat, and it's the first time I have really seen the finish - it looks fantastic. My only issue is the position of the lead plug - shame it's not on the side.
Just got it on Sweetwater this review sold me. Thing looks so nice
Oasis song!!! Always incredible. Super cool guutar
wow! CME &Gibson, please do a small USA run also w pointy 65-67 ears, gloss nitro and vintage hardware 👍🏽👍🏽 this finish is top beautiful tasty 🔥🔥😍
One of the last songs: There she goes - The La's
I thought it was Six Pence None the Richer?
@@allenwelden7099 looks like they made a cover!
Originally written by the La’s
There she goes.
This guy is a real picker. Inspiring
The feedback is a selling point lol
Fucking hell the tone on Rock n Roll Star was raucous
Nice Beatles cover.
Why oh why is this colour not available - it is by far the best I have seen in this range
Still available - www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/epiphone-casino-worn-sunrise-orange-cme-exclusive-1015750
Thanks!!
@@chicagomusicexchange Thanks. hugely appreciated, but I'm in the UK so shipping and taxes would put the price up too high. I LOVE the colour but I can buy one in another colour for £389 ( UK Pounds ) with free shipping over here. I would definitely have bought one from you, in that gorgeous Sunrise Orange, if it had been at all possible. Pete x
Great demo as usual!! Nice shout out to the underrated Steve Cradock's OCS!! Are these Casinos the new USA built ones?
These are not the USA ones.
China
What?? The USA ones are way over $2k, and have an ugly headstock.
No.. the USA ones have upside down parallelograms... seriously.... what a mess up.
There is no link for the Casino and it’s not on your site, either.
Now their is
gorgeous!
Love my Casino! There's a bunch of new cool colors and hey, one is never enough right cats!!
Jack ~'()'~
Canada manly!
Well done as always Nathaniel. Was going to buy but where’s the link to the Casino? I checked the CME site as well.
The pickups feel like they sound way better than the older recent reissues of the casino
They should, they have way less DC resistance... 7.8k v 12-14k... much brighter and less treble loss with the metal pickup covers. CTS pots and orange drop caps too !
Unreal that you can get a guitar like this for $450!
Yep. We in the west live to take advantage of barely live able wages for our luxury. China and Indonesia are terrible for wages. South Korea pays a decent living wage. PRS SE line used to be made there, but they went to Indonesia to make more profit. Reverend is made in South Korea and are loaded with custom appointments. Locking tuners, treble bleed circuit, baked necks, etc...
@@denismguitar1552 You bring up a great point. I'd gladly pay a few hundred more if hundreds of people got a wage that allowed them to provide for themselves & their families! sounds like South Korea might be a great sweet spot like you said.
So true! Just picked up the drab olive. Sweet guitar unplugged as well. A very different animal vs my Epi 335dot
Any downloadable pdf for In my life? Very nice guitar.
Sounds great and it is sub $500. I wish they had a more natural stripped finish. At least you can see the wood grain through the finishes they do have.
Sounds good, not sure about the colour though. A Worn Cherry would be more to my taste.
Don't know if it's the pickups or just the EQ of how the amp was set, but it didn't quite hit mark of what I want out of a casino
really enjoyed your beatles cover. any tabs on it?
It was about time Nathaniel covered some Oasis!!! - If you're reading this please do more!!
Are these new one's flat topped like a Midtown instead of arched like the traditional one's?
No, it's
an archtop and full hollow body.
Will a Lefty version be made?
No, you just have to get a left hand nut and flip the bridge like McCartney did.
@@THEScottCampbell
Yeah, play it like sir Paul and maybe you'll unlock some of his secrets!
Thanks ! As you're the only ones with that color (rather than Blue, Green and dark Grey) Any idea what sort of paint Epiphone is using on these ? I've got this same model in blue, it's beautiful, would like to get a similar aspect on other guitars
Ah the worn version looks more orange. People always say "nice red guitar" to me haha, I have the standard. It's more red than orange :p
I want that orange one!!! Do you ship to the Netherlands?
What is it with the Dutch and orange? Just kidding, I love this colour as well. I'm trying to get one over here to Belgium. :-)
I'd still like to know why these are $200 cheaper than a regular Casino. A gloss finish doesn't add THAT much to the cost of production.
These are a special CME run. They do it all the time. My guess is they guarantee a certain # of sales and Manufacturers lower the wholesale cost. They had a great version of the Squier Jazzmaster last year and I am still kicking myself for not jumping on it.
My advice; Get one.
China mass produced extreme low wages, all laminate, cheap pots and switches.
@@denismguitar1552 these come standard with upgraded CTS pots. An absolute steal. I bought the Drab Green Olive. Magic!
It looks and sounds beautiful. But can anybody offer any insight as to why these are $200 cheaper than the previous model? That’s a suspicious price drop for what is essentially the same guitar.
It's easier, cheaper and faster to do a satin finish maybe?
Not $200 retail cheaper, something else must be different.
I had the same question... A satin finish shouldn't make this guitar $200 cheaper. At first, I thought maybe these were 3-ply instead of the 5-ply construction of the regular Casino, but according to the specs on the Epiphone website, these are 5-ply too. I can't think of anything else that would knock $200 off the price.
@@Luthiart Right? Either they were heinously overcharging for the previous model (which is always possible), or they struck some dubious labor deal... or something. But I can’t help to be a bit suspicious.
And if they were overcharging for the previous model, why wouldn’t they drop the price on those? Why offer the same guitar with a slightly different finish at a dramatically lower price point?
I see this guitar handle Oasis songs pretty decently! Even the p90 give the song a different good new taste
The La’s..:)
Is this just a one time run? Or will there be more. It’s sold out on the CME website.
Looks better than cherry
What mic are y’all using on the amp?
What's the neck profile (depth) and width at nut?
Rad
No international shipping? :(
Is that a Chicago accent?
OK, I hope you or someone can help and I truly appreciate any advice in advance. I bought a regular Casino a month ago. I like it a lot except for two issues: 1) Tuning: The tuning heads are so small it's annoying and awkward. I could live with them if the guitar stayed in tune but a few hard bends and it's gone. I know I can pay a luthier to replace them with Grovers or whatever, not sure how much that would cost...but would it help stay in tune? How can a $650 guitar have such bad tuners?
2) Playability: It's not awful but certain things seem "off". When I do big bends sometimes the adjacent string "pops" over the top of the string I'm bending. Never experienced that before. Also when I'm playing the higher frets, it takes more pressure and accuracy to get a clean and solid note. I have a week or two where I can still return it, and I played my 18 year old Schecter S1 Plus and NONE of the above issues exist, but I did have a setup done when I bought it. I forgot how smooth and buttery it was, cuz I've been playing almost all acoustic for the last 15 years. So, I was ready to pay for new tuners and a setup, and then I see the Casino Worn today. But it's $200 less! What's the catch? I checked Epiphone website see the fingerboard is not Pau Ferro and that the neck profile is different, (why the neck profile different on the "same" guitar?) but I'm not sure what that means in terms of playability which is very important to me. Are the pickups the exact same? Are the fret sizes the same? I went to Epiphone website to compare but a lot of it is vague. The regular says "5 layered maple" and the Worn says "Maple" on Epiphone website. I love the Worn look, and I'm thinking "If I'm gonna put $200 into it after the fact, am I better off buying the cheaper Worn version b/c in end I'll end up at the same place for less money?" But is it likely that a setup will fix the playability issues? Will the Worn one still not be as good because of inferior materials? Ugh!
Tuning stability is almost always an issue with the nut, not the tuners. Do you hear any "pinging" sounds while you're tuning the guitar? That means the strings are binding in the slots and need to be filed or lubricated. Or just replace it with a bone nut.
Is it arch top?
This fascination with "WORN, VOS...." BRAND NEW=Glossy and shinny new guitar!
It’s a preference thing. Aside from Fenders Daphne Blue I loathe blue on a guitar.
@@g.d.h. Gary I understand it's a preference but it wouldn't be an option if the guitar makers didn't push it and the people buy them! Does anyone buy a new car and say...oh..I want it with scratches, "Patina" rust look? No they. want a shinny new glossy car!
@well, I bought a standard VS Casino a few years ago with the thick gloss poly. Earlier this year I spent two weeks knocking it down, thinning it as much as I could. Not only does the resulting semi-gloss look better than the dipped-in-plastic look it had (my opinion of course), but the thinner finish let the guitar vibrate and resonate more. A lot more - it wasn't a subtle difference. So if the worn finish is thin, as I expect it is, I would also expect these to be livelier guitars than the standard gloss. I would have been happy with one of these (but probably the black one - I'm not a big fan of blue, either).
This is a real bargain (if you like the Orange), it's 200 less than Sweetwaters price and sports the Nickel hardware and p/u covers as opposed to chrome.
Buy this guitar and some Turtle Wax auto polish. $449 + $6 and do your car also.
The only problem with the epiphone casino are the pickups are waaay too dark
they are super bright. Too bright. he has the tone know rolled down for this video
@@jw112mail not the ones on mine they're waay too dark for my liking
@@jw112mail I remember trying the inspired John Lennon 1 at guitar center & it was real bassy. If that's a word?
The stock pickups on my 2016 Casino were over-wound to 13k (!) with 43 awg wire, and they sounded dark, muddy and noisy as hell. I sent them out to be re-wound to vintage spec with 42 awg by Buddha Pickups, and now they sound fantastic! I don't know what Epiphone was thinking... The construction of the 2016 Casino is way better than my old Korean one, but the pickups are way worse.
@@Luthiart I guess they gotta save a buck or 2 by putting crappy stock pick ups in.
I don’t like the sound of this guitar/model I think a Stratocaster (or even a Telecaster) can do this sounds even better
The capo is there for a reason, and it isn’t anything to do with a key.
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Do people actually like satin or are companies just saturating the market that players have no choice but get satin finishes?
I kinda can't stand satin finishes. I think people are tricked into thinking it's more akin to old nitro finishes, but it's really not.
I dunno. Just my opinion but I really really don't care for satin
Nah that's perfectly reasonable. I think it follows a common trend is resistant materials processing and preservation last 20 years. Any product can now come in a satin-feel 'premium' package and guitars are no exception.
I like satin feel ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ In this day and age all things glossy give the impression of cheapness in many ways
Haha. I can't stand glossy finishes. Before I had to sand down guitars to get rid of it, so quite happy that there are now more models for everybody's taste. :-)
In low to midrange cost guitars (Epiphone and Squier for example), the gloss they put on is usually very heavy and distracting to the overall finish. They do this because believe it or not, that kind of finish is cheaper and drys faster.
I prefer a thin coat gloss or a satin because it enhances wood grain or color finishes and doesn't chip.
This is a nice looking guitar, if you like the Orange over the maple.
Still can't get behind Chinese epis, they just don't feel like the 90s Samicks and Peerless runs, let alone the American models from way back.
I usually prefer Indonesian (or US, Mexico) made guitars but I had a Chinese made John Lennon Casino and that was probably one of the best guitars I have played, and one of the best looking as well. Of course that was in a different price range, but it shows that the skill in crafting is there. In the end I had to get rid of it as I was too scared to put a dent in it and ruin a perfect guitar. :-)
My 2017 China Casino is off the charts great in every way. I’m 68.
My 2016 Chinese Casino makes my old Korean one feel like a TOY by comparison. The body is 5-ply laminate, as opposed to the 3-ply of the Korean Casinos, and it just feels over-all like a more solidly built instrument. The guitars Epiphone was making in China between 2010 and 2015 were pretty dodgy, but after 2015, they really stepped up their game across most of their product line. If you directly compare a Casino made in 2015, or later, to any Korean-made Casino, I think you'll notice a palpable difference. The only caveat are the pickups. For some reason, Epiphone thought it would be a good idea to drastically over-wind the pickups with thinner wire, which makes them sound dark and noisy as hell. I sent mine out to be re-wound to vintage spec by Buddha Pickups, and now that guitar is nearly perfect. Almost as good as the Elitist Casino I used to own.
@@Luthiart That's fair enough dude, thanks for your input. There's probably some variation across the years and factories, I'm referring to my Samicks, a '95 Joe Pass and '97 Sheraton and honestly I don't think you can pick up a Chinese guitar that feels anything like them honestly. Honestly, I'd love to be proven wrong, despite their horrendous labour conditions. Maybe the Peerless Casinos were never that amazing?
I have a 2018 Chinese build and Epiphone had already worked out all of the kinks in that factory. It feels and plays great. Peerless go for 1,000 or more. Other more specified versions like the Revolution (made in US) or the Japanese elitists can fetch 2 - 3000 used. Thanks to CNC manufacturing, the country of origin is less of a factor in quality than it used to be.
So for average players like me these are a great bargain and sound great.
beautiful sounding guitar, but goddammit, orange must be the worst finish on any guitar :(
You must admit, it is the one color most players won't already have and Epiphone doesn't want a $449 Casino to compete with their traditional line of Natural and Vintage colors.
Would that be a human rights nightmare made China guitar? Or a .65/hr Indonesian? Let’s not support that! At least World Music in South Korea pays a good living wage ($9-11/hr)and support freedom.
Or lets just buy gibsons for the price of a good used car…. Either way ya take it in the rear itsa matter of how ya like it