Here’s the thing. You can still have some stores on the bottom, and with a central access and exit also have security which would make it a very safe place to live.
Here's the idiotic thing the creator of the mall originally proposed this he wanted people living, working and shopping in the same place, instead of a giant parking lot much of it would have been dense multistory housing. The issue is the builders and the city didn't want to pay for the housing, but if they had done this malls wouldn't be failing, because they'd have a natural captive audience.
Their home windows are surrounded by an even larger window. Basically living in a box inside another box, seems very unhealthy for the mind and body. Humans need fresh air, natural sunlight. The one sky roof over the apartments is not enough, that would feel like a prison.
The funny thing is, that actual Rhode Island Mall was originally purposed for apartment living, and then student living, and finally the outlet shopping that it is now. Each of those spaces would have probably provided more space than what this idea does and would have been located in an easier place to be in.
Wow I remember watching a video on this back in 2015. Glad to see y'all catching up with independent content creators. Glad to see that you summed it up in 3 and a half minutes what someone else actually took a good look and made a 15 minute video about the same thing.
Six years before this was filmed, many of the shops on the ground floor were occupied. Each apartment also had electronic locks but I see that is gone now, too.
The past has a potential future, hopefully it is bright, happy, encouraging and promising. Still seems shopping centers are available for shopping as there is the increased need for residential housing, thus as strange as it seems the malls closed, change happens, at times.
I read in books all the time that the oldest mall in America is in like Bismarck N.Dakota or someplace like that and was built in 1935, and whenever I see that I think, they obviously don't know about the Arcade. Blows out their stat by 100+ years. It is a true "Mall" in every sense of the word.
Some people in the comment section not understand the trade offs between cost, quantity (space) and quality (location, fixtures, amenities). You can have a bigger apartment at the same price but it may not be as nice or as convenient.
I remember watching a video on this years ago and thought it was a brilliant idea. I just went to their website and there are no lofts available. Epic idea!
state of the art modern cities these days build like a mini-mall + apartment combo actually. There's quite a few of them in Singapore, Korea, and Japan.
In Newark, NJ this was done to quite a few buildings in the downtown area.. I lived in two different commercial buildings that were converted to residential apartments. The first one was a department store known as Hahne and Co.. the second was a block away on Rector St, an old high school that was converted. The apartments are nice in size, but I didn’t like that the buildings were advertised as “luxury living” because the experience was not. (so many issues living in both buildings) I wish there was more a focus on making the units affordable, the developers did a great job with this conversion.
Prices went up! I saw this building on another TH-cam channel 6 years ago. Cheaper then. Either he’s getting greedy like all other landlords or taxes are rising to outrageous amounts!
The rent has probably gone up to compensate for the people not paying their rent due to the moratorium. Someone has to pay for it because the government is not reimbursing landlords.
The total of the rent isn’t necessarily outrageous, but you have to compare what you get when you pay more. If and extra $600 gets me a full kitchen, a laundry room, assigned parking spot (or maybe even a garage), another bedroom and another bathroom, I’d say it’s pretty understandable why it costs more. For 250 sq ft at $900 a month, no oven and no laundry room, all utilities better be included. If not, this is a deal for suckers, camouflaged with smoke and mirrors. I don’t hate the concept, but I don’t care for the execution.
In a downtown city that is normal rent. Some people in New York live in closets that are 100-150 sqft for over 1,000$ a month, and that's considered a good deal.
I bought a 2,225sq ft, 4-bedroom, 2-bathroom house last year with a $850 a month mortgage. That apartment for $900 better come with free Wi-Fi, housekeeping, communal showers, and laundry services.
Seems like a great place to live but 900$ a month is ballsy Edit: stop telling me you can get a roommate. If you watch the whole video you'll see these are mostly single apartments. I'm not trying to share a room with a roommate.
Here's the idiotic thing the creator of the mall originally proposed this he wanted people living, working and shopping in the same place, instead of a giant parking lot much of it would have been dense multistory housing. The issue is the builders and the city didn't want to pay for the housing, but if they had done this malls wouldn't be failing, because they'd have a natural captive audience.
seeing this as a european, this is criminal. Yes to do these to other random malls but this is part of history and its beautiful. It should have nevere been converted to apartments
If you could go back to the 90s and tell somebody that you're going to move into a mall, they would think you've got serious shopping issues. Or they might be jealos😅.
@@mikeconstantine6084 Thank you for your feed back! Unfortunately, $3,500.00 per month for a 3 to 4 bedroom “apartment” would not be ideal cost effective for me with raising a growing family and $950.00 for a one bedroom would only be cost effective for a single individual if the cost of utilities (which usually are predominantly high) were included which balances it out making it worth the investment to actually still “live” being that nothing is pretty much cost effective in today’s economy and especially on top of a global pandemic! Continue to Stay Safe and Many Blessings to you 😇
$900/mo for 250sq ft.? For that hole in the wall in the mall? You people are crazy. They could have done wayyyyyyy better architecture. What a missed opportunity.
Interesting concept - probably wouldn’t work for most of our local malls. They’re all these massive air-conditioning-dependent structures with no natural light coming in. Nothing charming about them at all.
Calling catering to the top 10% of incomes as a legitimate Economic Strategy is absurd. So, all businesses so the same. That 10% are smothered in goods and services, and the other 90% subsist in poverty?
Here’s the thing. You can still have some stores on the bottom, and with a central access and exit also have security which would make it a very safe place to live.
We have an excess of commercial real estate and housing shortages in many areas, so this is a great idea!
Here's the idiotic thing the creator of the mall originally proposed this he wanted people living, working and shopping in the same place, instead of a giant parking lot much of it would have been dense multistory housing. The issue is the builders and the city didn't want to pay for the housing, but if they had done this malls wouldn't be failing, because they'd have a natural captive audience.
@@Gamerad360 craziest part is mixed use development was normal 100 years ago, but since like the 60s it mostly disappeared
@@brettpitman3718Yeah because government is idiotic and created regulations preventing mixed-use housing. Thanks government.
Their home windows are surrounded by an even larger window. Basically living in a box inside another box, seems very unhealthy for the mind and body. Humans need fresh air, natural sunlight. The one sky roof over the apartments is not enough, that would feel like a prison.
For that little space and 900$ a month, everything better be included.
Food lights water clothes everything!!! Might as well get a studio
@@cherijames9895 $900/mo Studio sounds like an unfurnished one. This micro-loft comes with beds and living furniture.
In Boston that’s a steal.
Keep in mind that's probably downtown.
Right, what a ripoff. Like how are you supposed to use the bathroom, go sh*t in the middle of the floor outside.
The funny thing is, that actual Rhode Island Mall was originally purposed for apartment living, and then student living, and finally the outlet shopping that it is now. Each of those spaces would have probably provided more space than what this idea does and would have been located in an easier place to be in.
Is this the same mall were a man secretly lived in an abandoned space for 4 years? That guy was ahead of his time.
Yes
No it’s nearby though
No
WRONG
Wow I remember watching a video on this back in 2015. Glad to see y'all catching up with independent content creators. Glad to see that you summed it up in 3 and a half minutes what someone else actually took a good look and made a 15 minute video about the same thing.
Six years before this was filmed, many of the shops on the ground floor were occupied. Each apartment also had electronic locks but I see that is gone now, too.
An idea seen overseas. Bus terminal on road level, Mall/parking on lower levels and flats or apartment living up above.
The past has a potential future, hopefully it is bright, happy, encouraging and promising. Still seems shopping centers are available for shopping as there is the increased need for residential housing, thus as strange as it seems the malls closed, change happens, at times.
I want to own one of these one day! I love the concept
Own a building or rent the apartment? These are apartments.
@@Musicescape17 You have never heard of buying an apartment??? You own the walls inside and the space. In NYC it's the way to go
Online shopping isn't the only reason behind "dying malls" although the pandemic did not help!
So basically, the malls are turning into what the original mall designer Victor Gruen wanted in the first place. that's ironic....
I saw this for myself. It is amazing.
I read in books all the time that the oldest mall in America is in like Bismarck N.Dakota or someplace like that and was built in 1935, and whenever I see that I think, they obviously don't know about the Arcade. Blows out their stat by 100+ years. It is a true "Mall" in every sense of the word.
They should honestly hire the Japanese to design the interiors for these small apartments.
Some people in the comment section not understand the trade offs between cost, quantity (space) and quality (location, fixtures, amenities).
You can have a bigger apartment at the same price but it may not be as nice or as convenient.
I remember watching a video on this years ago and thought it was a brilliant idea. I just went to their website and there are no lofts available. Epic idea!
This only applies to smaller malls. Not economically viable for a superior size 400,000 plus sqf malls unless tear down and redeveloped.
The targets shopping centers here are being built with high rise apt on top of
state of the art modern cities these days build like a mini-mall + apartment combo actually.
There's quite a few of them in Singapore, Korea, and Japan.
I love the idea of the mall turning into a small apartment. Love it. Rhode Island is the best.
I remember some other news channel doing a piece on this they used to be 550$ for 250sf back in 2015... Probably way more expensive now in 2024
Why is the kitchen in the initial shot not the same as her personal kitchen (way smaller fridge, counter space, etc.)??
In Newark, NJ this was done to quite a few buildings in the downtown area.. I lived in two different commercial buildings that were converted to residential apartments.
The first one was a department store known as Hahne and Co.. the second was a block away on Rector St, an old high school that was converted. The apartments are nice in size, but I didn’t like that the buildings were advertised as “luxury living” because the experience was not. (so many issues living in both buildings) I wish there was more a focus on making the units affordable, the developers did a great job with this conversion.
Keep the food court. Great idea.
Brilliant Idea...........
1:13 $900 a month 200sq?
Prices went up! I saw this building on another TH-cam channel 6 years ago. Cheaper then. Either he’s getting greedy like all other landlords or taxes are rising to outrageous amounts!
The rent has probably gone up to compensate for the people not paying their rent due to the moratorium. Someone has to pay for it because the government is not reimbursing landlords.
@@Musicescape17 Small landlords can be fair, not all are greedy. The large corporate complexes are the worst..
The Arcade in downtown Providence , RI which is The FIRST indoor Mall in the Country !!
Indoor cities about to become reality
I would love living there such a nice Place.
This is what I hope to see in my home town if they don’t make the closed mall into and open mall.
They should do this to the Lloyd Center in Portland Oregon. There’s a lot of space in that mall and not enough apartments in the city.
I wouldn't do permanent residents in that setting but great idea
I hope that such a high rent for such tiny space includes utilities, internet and parking.
That's not high rent in a city these days.
Rent is closer to 1,600 now that’s cheap!!
I live in Memphis and that is cheap rent.
The total of the rent isn’t necessarily outrageous, but you have to compare what you get when you pay more. If and extra $600 gets me a full kitchen, a laundry room, assigned parking spot (or maybe even a garage), another bedroom and another bathroom, I’d say it’s pretty understandable why it costs more.
For 250 sq ft at $900 a month, no oven and no laundry room, all utilities better be included. If not, this is a deal for suckers, camouflaged with smoke and mirrors. I don’t hate the concept, but I don’t care for the execution.
In a downtown city that is normal rent. Some people in New York live in closets that are 100-150 sqft for over 1,000$ a month, and that's considered a good deal.
I love this idea -- perfect for minimalist living.
Looks cozy and peaceful. I bet I can get a lot of work done in there.
Love it ! The price is RIGHT !😍
What about people walking by your doors or is it elevator with a special key/rfid card?
I bought a 2,225sq ft, 4-bedroom, 2-bathroom house last year with a $850 a month mortgage. That apartment for $900 better come with free Wi-Fi, housekeeping, communal showers, and laundry services.
Are you in the same location they are? If a big house is really cheap that's because not many people want to live there.
Where in the USA did you buy a house that big with an 850. mortgage, because I want to move there, tomorrow??? Death Valley?
@@jeffc1347 young ppl.
@@PaulGadoury Michigan. $850 is the payment. My downpayment was like $35k
@@cmndrkool321 That is amazing. I live in RI. and even in the worst part of our state that is a 450-500k
I'd dreamed about this. Thats why I looked it up..Hope to own one to.
Seems like a great place to live but 900$ a month is ballsy
Edit: stop telling me you can get a roommate. If you watch the whole video you'll see these are mostly single apartments. I'm not trying to share a room with a roommate.
I would at least expect 500 sq ft for 900 dollars. But I'm not American, so I don't know what to reference it with.
@Odge Falfox. You can great deals if you're willing to get roommates. Some ppl will pay extra for privacy even if a place is smaller
Here's the idiotic thing the creator of the mall originally proposed this he wanted people living, working and shopping in the same place, instead of a giant parking lot much of it would have been dense multistory housing. The issue is the builders and the city didn't want to pay for the housing, but if they had done this malls wouldn't be failing, because they'd have a natural captive audience.
I love this wound totally live here.
One question...Do they have security guards for night time? To let police in if needed?
Paying rent is a sin. Add a solar panel and I'm sold.
Too expensive for the size. Open malls woth stores back up. No more homes. That's the problem
I have been saying this for years, all of this commercial real estate sitting empty.
seeing this as a european, this is criminal. Yes to do these to other random malls but this is part of history and its beautiful. It should have nevere been converted to apartments
I'd say it's a literal new lease on life
You will muzzle up and live in a box!
300 square ft $ 950? 😒
its the arcade in providence, not the actual rhode island midland mall, please change title.
Cool but where do u shower an flush? 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤
I pay 900 a mo for 625 sq ft and a back porch
Flat top stoves don’t have flames. Electric stoves don’t have flames.
It’s The Arcade. Never a mall. Tourists😡
this is the best ideas ever
A dishwasher for 1 person, seems a waste when space is so valuable
If you could go back to the 90s and tell somebody that you're going to move into a mall, they would think you've got serious shopping issues. Or they might be jealos😅.
Nice idea, but "high-end" living it is not. At least not in America.
@Zavier Botsford Ha! biden's America!
well if you think about it it's downtown, and it's inside a mall with limited real-estate.
Thats a great idea
Should make them more affordable
I would love to rent a mallaoartment.
I think that this is So incredibly smart and affordable! I would definitely become a renter here! Do you offer 3 or 4 bedrooms?
I think it's just one bedroom
Yes It's $3500,$950 for One bedroom!
@@mikeconstantine6084 Thank you for your feed back! Unfortunately, $3,500.00 per month for a 3 to 4 bedroom “apartment” would not be ideal cost effective for me with raising a growing family and $950.00 for a one bedroom would only be cost effective for a single individual if the cost of utilities (which usually are predominantly high) were included which balances it out making it worth the investment to actually still “live” being that nothing is pretty much cost effective in today’s economy and especially on top of a global pandemic! Continue to Stay Safe and Many Blessings to you 😇
Nothing about this place says high end. The paint, the appliances, the space…all no.
brilliant
not a micro loft.
This is definitely a great idea but it shouldn’t cost $900 a month.
$900/mo for 250sq ft.? For that hole in the wall in the mall? You people are crazy. They could have done wayyyyyyy better architecture. What a missed opportunity.
I can't believe what people are accepting now!!!!😲😥👎
900$… wow… rip off 😂 fucking crazy
I like it
This is cool
Opportunity for college Dorms!!!
Why would one person need a dishwasher, lazy.
Small Front Loading Washing Machine would make more sense I agree some are dryers too.
Why in the world is she wearing a mask, how ridiculous
She wears it to protect her invisible roommate.
Minimalist= no choice but to live in a box.
Hope people realize now how foolish these masks looked.
Interesting concept - probably wouldn’t work for most of our local malls. They’re all these massive air-conditioning-dependent structures with no natural light coming in. Nothing charming about them at all.
Lol 😂Take the dang mask off. People this was for control, wake up
Calling catering to the top 10% of incomes as a legitimate Economic Strategy is absurd. So, all businesses so the same. That 10% are smothered in goods and services, and the other 90% subsist in poverty?
What's with the mask now....music is very annoying also
Pathetic. Get rid of online shopping
Lmao what