these cars all need is downpipe and tune. :) and its a monster for the street. 2nd gear, pull loses z traction. 500+hp is plenty of power. very cool car! lots of potential / turbo swap, meth, 700hp.
Hi there nice vid by the way. I just want to ask and since I have a 2021 M2 competition, I decided to change the downpipes, the pipes going towards the back is from eisennman race with no exhaust just a straight pipe with no blockage whatsoever, then I change charge pipes, the crank hub and have the ECU tuned, thats it. Now my question is do I need to change my OEM intercooler to a CSF or any aftermarket dual pass charge air cooler? and I dont track this car but just drive it daily and drive it spiritedly and fast. Hope to hear from you the soonest. Reply
Sounds amazing dude. Are you worried that all the flashes will void your warranty? I have a new stock M4, and I want this tune but I'm hearing different things. They have a flash counter? I don't want to void my warranty if possible. Thanks!
Hey Blake, love the channel! I am considering getting a BM3 license for the GTS flash and GTS tune. I am staying away from Stage 1 until I am out of warranty and plan on getting the crank hub fixed. Have you fixed yours at all? Think I can get away with the GTS tune without any issues? Thanks
Were you planning on fitting the Berty30 between the steering column and the dash? That looks like just a weird enormous gap. Probably just the angle of the video.
It’s all the way out and down. Just like my seating position the lowest it will go. This is why I modified the E30 steering column to sit 2 inches lower for proper ergonomics #BECAUSERACECAR🏁
I have the MPE, I was wondering if I should just get a S1 tune with changed charge pipes. Will the downshift have a sound when downshifting? Did you notice a major sound difference from stock to S1? Thanks!
Really want to do this on my M4 '16 with MPE... Any advice? Complete rookie here but want to do a stage 1 91 octane because I want to keep the car in stock... Also just want the downshift burbles
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act I recommend a read. This will clear up what would be covered and what wouldn’t. Basically every time it goes to the dealer I’ll flash it back to stock.
But doesn't the car's computer track boost levels and so the dealer would recognize pushing an extra 10 psi through the turbos? MMA would apply to physical components that act in similar fashion as OEM, so a software tune forcing an increased workload would not hold up in a legal case I'm guessing. @@BlakesGarage
So that stage 1 tune gives the GTS transmission tune which include faster clamping and bubbles on stock exhaust and pipes. Approximately how much hp gained?
hey Blake, i got the same software but dit not a chance to play with. Do know if BMW will make a fuss about in regards of fac warranty since this is a flash to the ecu?
I do know actually lol. Yes they know if you flashed the car even if you put it back to stock. They may do a goodwill warranty but that's usally a one time thing. The basic rule is that your warranty will not be avoided unless they can prove that the specific thing that is having an issue was caused by the modifications that you have done. So if your car is tuned and you get robbed knock they will not warranty the motor. But if let's say a camshaft position sensor goes bad. That would be warranty as that has nothing to do with any sort of tune and that's a specific problem with a part that should be covered under warranty.
Probably a silly question but I have a full bolt on forester xt and I’m looking to either sell it for an F80 m3 or drop 10k into it and do a built motor/6speed. If you had your wrx still and was in the same situation what would you do being you’ve owned damn near the same thing.
Uhhh M3 duh 🙄 it wouldn’t be the last time you dumped 10k into it. You’ll just run down a bath of more broken stuff. I really feel the reason they say on the Subaru commercials that most of the percentage of the Subaru sold are still on the road it’s just because people are stupid enough to keep fixing them. Because they keep breaking.
People have issues with the electrode breaking off and messing up the engine it’s a documented issue on the forums. Also the other design is the ones I installed are one step cooler and also are gapped differently than stock. I did this to run a full E85 tune.
Blake's Garage i heard people saying bmw upgraded some stuff for 2017 competition pack. Not sure if they do anything about this issue. Do u think i need upgrade the spark plug? Cuz i flashed my car last week by myself, so i’m pretty new to this,
Do you feel a big difference in the grab between gears switch? My friend owns a GTS and that grab is just ridiculously fast, my other fiend flash is M6 with with that flash as well and well let’s just say it’s almost as fast as the GTS grab
Yes the GTS trans tune is much more immediate on upshifts and downshifts also has a higher clamping force of the clutches. As for hardware upgrades just spark plugs are nessasary. Crankhib fix is also recommended as I actually spun mine recently.
Blake's Garage yeah have heard about that Crankhub issue but for some reason I also see a lot of people saying it’s not as frequent as some forums may claim. I will definitely do a little more research into it.
Can you let us know how much of a difference you felt going from stock to the GTS flash? The bootmod3 stage one seemed a bit hairy for a daily driver. But I am am curious to hear if you felt it was worth the registration fee cost for the GTS flashs, dct & engine? Thanks
I didn't notice a huge difference with the GTS engine tune beside the burbles. The DCT tune is excellent and makes a huge difference highly recommend. The CS tune is the best for all around driving as the power delivery is very smooth. Make sure to subscribe and turn on notifications because I have a Dyno video coming out soon.
Red_Nation look up the discussions on this in BimmerPost. Lots of great content and comments from other owners. Just purchased Bm3, I’m stock besides intake right now. The GTS DCT flash is fine on stock. It’s a factory flash. I think Bm3 also allows you to custom tune the burble.
steve sutandinata Yeah I mean I still had warranty the car was basically brand new. However now the car is flagged so anything I try to do through warranty is a real pain in the ass. If you brought the car in with the tune or even without the tune on the car they will know the car is tune and most likely you will be flagged if you have the issue. I did get BMW to fix it however which was very nice but it was a one time at Goodwill warranty. I got lucky you could completely toast the motor and then they will not cover that that’s a $35,000 engine. So the three grand to do the crank hub is a good insurance and investment to not ever have that issue.
The s55 just doesn't sound that good otherwise i'd pick up an f80 m4/m3. Performance is undeniable but its just not audibly stimulating at all which is sad considering even the n55 or b58 base model cars sound better.
Wahh 😿 car sounds great. It's an acquired taste. Make the exhaust flaps open 100% of the time and it's amazing. Not a V8 but no shit its way faster twin turbo inline 6 🏁🏁🏁
@@BlakesGarage Don't get me wrong it still sounds great but n55's just sound more potent and it doesn't take more than a youtube search to realise. Of course it doesn't take away from the fact the s55 is better suited for performance.
Awesome review dude !!! I'm getting mine mapped in the morn and after watching your video I'm now lay here in bed with a serious boner !!!! You the the man....Mann 😉👍.... although i am now slightly concerned due to having really worn rears and a wet day ahead tomorrow
" I just read the majority of the act. And it's pretty interesting how things are done in Cali. I don't know how dealerships work in Cali but in new Jersey if you touch the ECU do any remapping or flash tunning it's game over. Even if it has nothing to do with the tune you lose your warranty. Some dealerships will even void your warranty if you put an aftermarket exhaust. From what I read the act is very clear and prevents the dealership from let's say replacing a motor mount if it breaks even though you have a tune. But in new Jersey I've heard stories of guys whos cars had broken down and was still under warranty but was denied warranty service because of aftermarket parts even though the parts have nothing to do with the problem at hand. Again it varies from dealership to dealership and depends on weather or not the shop manager or GM is fine with doing warranty work so long as the aftermarket work done to the car has nothing to do with the problem at hand. Over here they are a lot more up tight about aftermarket work. Heck there was a time when car manufacturers tried voiding warranties if their brand of oil wasn't used. But that's pretty cool man. Nice to see that corporations don't have full control over the situation over there
The BM3 doesn't require cracking into the ECU anymore and can be flashed on and off without detection. There hasn't been any known flags with Bootmod3 and there are countless people running them and getting warranty work done. The only way the dealer would know is if they saw intakes, downpipes, chargepipes, etc. when inspecting for warranty work.
@@YouSoundButtHurt Lol, I know; the naivety is strong here. Everyone throws around the good 'ol 1975 Magnuson Moss Act like it means anything. BMW will blame a blown turbo or head gasket on something as benign as a down pipe, let alone a flash, and their attorneys will prevail every time. Good luck floating the thousands $ in attorney fees trying to fight it, while every day your car sits at the dealership, waiting for you to foot the bill.
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So sick! I just bought an 2020 M4 Competition. Nardo Grey with carbon fiber 👌🏽 6 speed manual gearbox 🔥 might need a tune!
these cars all need is downpipe and tune. :) and its a monster for the street. 2nd gear, pull loses z traction. 500+hp is plenty of power. very cool car! lots of potential / turbo swap, meth, 700hp.
I love the Led Zeppelin No Quarter sounding intro. So sinister!
A BMW M commercial came on before this 👌🏽👍🏽
Sweet man good luck !
Dude how’s the car going with the tune, any driveability niggles or oddities?
Nice work 👍🏼
Auto x will turn into a drift event. Points for style
Hi there nice vid by the way. I just want to ask and since I have a 2021 M2 competition, I decided to change the downpipes, the pipes going towards the back is from eisennman race with no exhaust just a straight pipe with no blockage whatsoever, then I change charge pipes, the crank hub and have the ECU tuned, thats it. Now my question is do I need to change my OEM intercooler to a CSF or any aftermarket dual pass charge air cooler? and I dont track this car but just drive it daily and drive it spiritedly and fast. Hope to hear from you the soonest.
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Zeppelin intro music...Im in!
Sounds amazing dude. Are you worried that all the flashes will void your warranty? I have a new stock M4, and I want this tune but I'm hearing different things. They have a flash counter? I don't want to void my warranty if possible. Thanks!
Nice M4!
Hey Blake, love the channel! I am considering getting a BM3 license for the GTS flash and GTS tune. I am staying away from Stage 1 until I am out of warranty and plan on getting the crank hub fixed. Have you fixed yours at all? Think I can get away with the GTS tune without any issues? Thanks
My question also
@@trikie7821 hey bro, here i am one year later and I am running the GTS tune and have yet to do the crank hub fix. im going to roll with it
@@f80corey thanks for responding! what do you think about the CS+ Tune with a stock ch?
@@trikie7821 should be fine brotha. do you drive your car super hard? feel free to send me a DM on instagram @f80corey
Just stage 1 it wtf u waiting for 🤣. I stage 1 mine after 1 day.
Ooo awesome bro!!!
Awesome buddy!
Were you planning on fitting the Berty30 between the steering column and the dash? That looks like just a weird enormous gap. Probably just the angle of the video.
It’s all the way out and down. Just like my seating position the lowest it will go. This is why I modified the E30 steering column to sit 2 inches lower for proper ergonomics #BECAUSERACECAR🏁
I have the MPE, I was wondering if I should just get a S1 tune with changed charge pipes. Will the downshift have a sound when downshifting? Did you notice a major sound difference from stock to S1? Thanks!
Really want to do this on my M4 '16 with MPE... Any advice? Complete rookie here but want to do a stage 1 91 octane because I want to keep the car in stock... Also just want the downshift burbles
What else do you have left that you need for the swap, my buddy has easy access to parts in the area
Shouldn't you be driving a jacked up Ford?
Great video! Now. Warranty. Thoughts on it being voided? Are you at all worried?
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act I recommend a read. This will clear up what would be covered and what wouldn’t. Basically every time it goes to the dealer I’ll flash it back to stock.
Blake's Garage well thank you sir! I like the burpies too! Haha
But doesn't the car's computer track boost levels and so the dealer would recognize pushing an extra 10 psi through the turbos? MMA would apply to physical components that act in similar fashion as OEM, so a software tune forcing an increased workload would not hold up in a legal case I'm guessing. @@BlakesGarage
Another great video Blake. It would be neat to see the Dino difference between the stock and what you just did.
Still waiting for my ride.
Oh I have the video waiting to be edited stay tuned it’s coming! 👍🏼🏁
Hey bro, do I need a tuner to tune it. Or can I just by the bm3 tune and do it myself
Yeah you can just get bm3 and a crank hub would be good also
Is it safe to do any bootmod3 upgrade without changing the crank hub? If yes which stage?
Not really
So that stage 1 tune gives the GTS transmission tune which include faster clamping and bubbles on stock exhaust and pipes. Approximately how much hp gained?
Yep, check my other videos I did a whole Dyno comparison video.
hey Blake, i got the same software but dit not a chance to play with. Do know if BMW will make a fuss about in regards of fac warranty since this is a flash to the ecu?
I do know actually lol. Yes they know if you flashed the car even if you put it back to stock. They may do a goodwill warranty but that's usally a one time thing. The basic rule is that your warranty will not be avoided unless they can prove that the specific thing that is having an issue was caused by the modifications that you have done. So if your car is tuned and you get robbed knock they will not warranty the motor. But if let's say a camshaft position sensor goes bad. That would be warranty as that has nothing to do with any sort of tune and that's a specific problem with a part that should be covered under warranty.
Probably a silly question but I have a full bolt on forester xt and I’m looking to either sell it for an F80 m3 or drop 10k into it and do a built motor/6speed.
If you had your wrx still and was in the same situation what would you do being you’ve owned damn near the same thing.
Uhhh M3 duh 🙄 it wouldn’t be the last time you dumped 10k into it. You’ll just run down a bath of more broken stuff. I really feel the reason they say on the Subaru commercials that most of the percentage of the Subaru sold are still on the road it’s just because people are stupid enough to keep fixing them. Because they keep breaking.
Can you flash a base model m4 with the gts tune?
Yea, I did that in this video
What other parts need to be upgraded in the car to handle a stage 1 tune?
Nothing. Iv put panel filters in and 1 step colder spark plugs. 👍
a lot of torque at low revs is not good fir the bearings... that's why bmw enginners avoid such mapping 😉
What’s wrong with the stock spark plugs? I’m running stage 1 93, done stage 2 before but i have stock down pipes.
People have issues with the electrode breaking off and messing up the engine it’s a documented issue on the forums. Also the other design is the ones I installed are one step cooler and also are gapped differently than stock. I did this to run a full E85 tune.
Blake's Garage i heard people saying bmw upgraded some stuff for 2017 competition pack. Not sure if they do anything about this issue. Do u think i need upgrade the spark plug? Cuz i flashed my car last week by myself, so i’m pretty new to this,
Any hardware upgrade to the engine before doing any of these Flash Tuned/Mods?
Do you feel a big difference in the grab between gears switch?
My friend owns a GTS and that grab is just ridiculously fast, my other fiend flash is M6 with with that flash as well and well let’s just say it’s almost as fast as the GTS grab
Yes the GTS trans tune is much more immediate on upshifts and downshifts also has a higher clamping force of the clutches. As for hardware upgrades just spark plugs are nessasary. Crankhib fix is also recommended as I actually spun mine recently.
Blake's Garage yeah have heard about that Crankhub issue but for some reason I also see a lot of people saying it’s not as frequent as some forums may claim. I will definitely do a little more research into it.
Blake's Garage What tune did you have when you spun your crank hub?
@@BlakesGarage were you stage 1 when you spun your crank hub?
Can you let us know how much of a difference you felt going from stock to the GTS flash? The bootmod3 stage one seemed a bit hairy for a daily driver. But I am am curious to hear if you felt it was worth the registration fee cost for the GTS flashs, dct & engine? Thanks
I didn't notice a huge difference with the GTS engine tune beside the burbles. The DCT tune is excellent and makes a huge difference highly recommend. The CS tune is the best for all around driving as the power delivery is very smooth. Make sure to subscribe and turn on notifications because I have a Dyno video coming out soon.
Blake's Garage Thank you! Look forward to the upcoming videos and dyno results.
You better get some charge pipes the factory ones are made of plastic.
Can I do the GTS Flash on a completely stock M3/4? Just to get the burble
Red_Nation look up the discussions on this in BimmerPost. Lots of great content and comments from other owners. Just purchased Bm3, I’m stock besides intake right now. The GTS DCT flash is fine on stock. It’s a factory flash. I think Bm3 also allows you to custom tune the burble.
does it matter if i have an obd cable instead of obd2??
also is the stage 0 gts tune okay to run without downpipes?? please let me know!
Yes stage 1 and stage 0 are fine without downpipes. Stage 2 is where you need downpipes.
You need the specific cable
Blake's Garage I can’t get it to recognize my obd/vin
Go with a stand alone on the e30
You might as well. The tunability will be light years ahead of an obd1. Especially if you go forced induction
Do you still have this car?
Yeah
Hey, If i'm planning to go stage 1 or stage 2, should i worry about the whole S55 crank hub issue?
Yes, I spun mine it wasn’t fun. Just do it so you don’t have to worry.
Blake's Garage oh geez. Did you spin yours with stage 1 or 2?
steve sutandinata Stage 1 E85 tune. Just plugs and a map. 9K miles on the car at the time.
Blake's Garage omygod. Cause i still have warranty, im not sure if i should change the crankhub
steve sutandinata Yeah I mean I still had warranty the car was basically brand new. However now the car is flagged so anything I try to do through warranty is a real pain in the ass. If you brought the car in with the tune or even without the tune on the car they will know the car is tune and most likely you will be flagged if you have the issue. I did get BMW to fix it however which was very nice but it was a one time at Goodwill warranty. I got lucky you could completely toast the motor and then they will not cover that that’s a $35,000 engine. So the three grand to do the crank hub is a good insurance and investment to not ever have that issue.
The s55 just doesn't sound that good otherwise i'd pick up an f80 m4/m3. Performance is undeniable but its just not audibly stimulating at all which is sad considering even the n55 or b58 base model cars sound better.
Wahh 😿 car sounds great. It's an acquired taste. Make the exhaust flaps open 100% of the time and it's amazing. Not a V8 but no shit its way faster twin turbo inline 6 🏁🏁🏁
@@BlakesGarage Don't get me wrong it still sounds great but n55's just sound more potent and it doesn't take more than a youtube search to realise. Of course it doesn't take away from the fact the s55 is better suited for performance.
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Awesome review dude !!! I'm getting mine mapped in the morn and after watching your video I'm now lay here in bed with a serious boner !!!! You the the man....Mann 😉👍.... although i am now slightly concerned due to having really worn rears and a wet day ahead tomorrow
Dude you’ll love it! Make sure to use my code and stay tuned Full E85 video coming out tomorrow.
Shit you can do without spending 600-1100 gftoh with the paid commercials.
As i watch this video in the back of my head i'm like I know BMW is going to make the M3/4 all wheel drive and just fucking kill the manual....
They will have both RWD and AWD in the new ones. Oh, and sticking with the 3 pedals.
D Thomas I’ll believe it when I see it. But I really hope so
So I'm guessing your the warranty on this one 🤣🤣👌
ijt540 car has 3K miles please refer to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act this will explained what's issues I would have with warranty work.
" I just read the majority of the act. And it's pretty interesting how things are done in Cali. I don't know how dealerships work in Cali but in new Jersey if you touch the ECU do any remapping or flash tunning it's game over. Even if it has nothing to do with the tune you lose your warranty. Some dealerships will even void your warranty if you put an aftermarket exhaust. From what I read the act is very clear and prevents the dealership from let's say replacing a motor mount if it breaks even though you have a tune. But in new Jersey I've heard stories of guys whos cars had broken down and was still under warranty but was denied warranty service because of aftermarket parts even though the parts have nothing to do with the problem at hand. Again it varies from dealership to dealership and depends on weather or not the shop manager or GM is fine with doing warranty work so long as the aftermarket work done to the car has nothing to do with the problem at hand. Over here they are a lot more up tight about aftermarket work. Heck there was a time when car manufacturers tried voiding warranties if their brand of oil wasn't used. But that's pretty cool man. Nice to see that corporations don't have full control over the situation over there
Good luck invoking Moss if you ever need to....you vs. BMW's lawyers.
The BM3 doesn't require cracking into the ECU anymore and can be flashed on and off without detection. There hasn't been any known flags with Bootmod3 and there are countless people running them and getting warranty work done. The only way the dealer would know is if they saw intakes, downpipes, chargepipes, etc. when inspecting for warranty work.
@@YouSoundButtHurt Lol, I know; the naivety is strong here. Everyone throws around the good 'ol 1975 Magnuson Moss Act like it means anything. BMW will blame a blown turbo or head gasket on something as benign as a down pipe, let alone a flash, and their attorneys will prevail every time. Good luck floating the thousands $ in attorney fees trying to fight it, while every day your car sits at the dealership, waiting for you to foot the bill.
"I can't open the door or roll down the window"...next shot, arm out the window... :)
Yeah different flash. I rolled it down right after I completed the flash so I wouldn't die 😂. Brick the ECU 🤷♂️ Die 🤷♂️ I picked die lol