MarkP87, this is the most useful video anybody has produced for the PR7 with regard to long distance luggage solutions. Thank you very much for posting it and for providing the links for the kit. Now I know there is a rack system available it makes this great bike a serious choice for long distance international adventure for myself, all the best from Devon and many thanks again for your helpful advice.
Thank you James for your very kind words. I believe there is more than one option now, certainly for rear carriers like 3D Moto etc. Most PR7 riders are TET orientated and strap on bags are usually favoured. I developed the bike to be a great all rounder (watch 3 bikes, if you haven't already) and the pannier frames are a useful part of the concept. Back in 2019 it was hard to find PR7 information so I hoped that sharing my months of research would help make it easier. Suppliers and products change and indeed some of the items I linked to are no longer available. The good news is that more and more small manufactures are making great products now for the bike, so things are looking good for this great motorcycle. I'm a west country lad myself but do enjoy living here in central France. Thanks again for your comment and regards from Haute Vienne.
An impressive well thought out presentation Mark, like your style. I'm coming up to making the same decision. My AT gets a bit intimidating at times for off road, especially here in New Zealands South Island. I added a CRF Rally 300 but ideally 40 to 50hp would be more realistic and under 150kg wet. I rode a mates well set up DR 400 enought to realise had I known, I would not have bought the 300. I spent big on suspension and and now am sitting in inbetween waiting to see what my options are. For me the perfect bike would be the ktm 500 or Husky 501 but because of plastic subframes and low service intervals and a starting price around $17000+nzd before I even start, the Kove looks bloody attractive. If they get compliance adr in Australia I'll go over and tour Aus and bring it back. Meantime its down to the Sth Island with my Honda 300 for a month in February.
Thank you for the comment! My riding buddy has 2 Africa Twins, the original and a new model. He now rides the PR7 and loves it. For the money I feel it's hard to beat. The standard output is fine for me and has taken me anywhere I need to go. Servicing schedules was the main issue for me when looking at the enduro options around in 2019. The Kove does indeed look interesting, though I do wonder about the long distance road aspect, which is important to my all round utilisation. NZ is my dream destination and I hope to holiday there in the next few years. I know a couple of ex UK guys who live there and it would be good to see them again. Meanwhile, enjoy your ride on South Island... wish I was there! ;-)
Great video, my 23 PR7 arrives in 3 days! Quick question, can you give a link to the rally screen extension you have mounted? Does it do a better job at motorway speeds?
amzn.eu/d/9Rd04HN this is the screen Gary. It works well once you set the angle to suit. I can feel the wind sheer above the helmet when I stick a hand up.
Thank you! 5k service due end April and May is an intense period. The Pecos in Northern Spain 2nd week and then the UK for 2 wks, probably another 4k. Hoping the durability will continue as expected. Vid' updates after the trips ;-)
Hi, thanks for sharing. I tested the PR7 and the 701, then bought the 701 for few reasons: I didn't feel good on the PR7 from ergonomics, I prefered the capacity and low vibrations of the 701 engine together with electronics (ABS, TC, 2 Maps), and I have a Husqvarna dealer close to my home.
Thank you! I was originally looking at the 701LR, but having scoured the forums I became concerned that the reliability issues might get too expensive for me. It also seemed that the issues hadn't been addressed by the manufacturer. For this kind of cash I at least expect reliability from a big brand. I prefer the basic simplicity of the PR7 design. All I see now with high tech features is expense and potential problems.Hope the 701 is good for you and all goes well. Thanks again for taking the time to comment :-)
@@markp87PR7 did you see the TH-cam channel of Long Ride Zone , riding PR7, interesting reports on PR7. On my side 8000km on my 701, so far so good. Enjoy 😀
@@gillesgenete9598 Glad the 701 is going well for you. Yes, I stay abreast of the PR7 stuff on here. Most of the niggling issues with the PR7 relate to the older models, though mostly easy to resolve. No broken rockers or the like. The '21 model dealt with most of these, mine is fine so far. A dealer told me that there is a significant update coming for 2023, so keep your eyes open, just in case ;-)
I just happened to stumble on to this video and it was excellent! And unique in that it tackled the question of one vs two bikes. I am in the U.S. and I have never heard of that bike before. I assume it is not offered here. What would be the equivalent kind of bike available in the U.S. to take a look at? Can you update us on this bike and cost etc? And how are the highway miles, comfort and speed? What has been the greatest distance you have traveled on this bike in a day? How many miles have you put on this bike? Thanks
Hi, the PR7 is available in the USA though initially it was for competition only I believe, though this may have changed? the bike is comfortable and good on the road able to cruise at 70mph. I have ridden 8-9hr days both on and off road without major discomfort. About 350miles in one day and around 1000miles over 3days is max so far having covered 6000miles to date. Links ... ajpmotos.com/pages/store-locator www.motoajpusa.com/ These guys should be able to help you with regard to price etc. Other bikes in the same range would be the KTM690 or Husqvana 701, also a new Aprilia 660 is fresh to market. Hope this helps you out. Thanks for the communication :-)
@@markp87PR7 Thanks! So, I guess you answered the two bike dilemma and found one bike that is an all arounder. The video was very good! Got me thinking about a bike that I would not have considered and I can see how it addresses all of issues. Thanks
Thanks for the video! All I wouls say is that your long distance load is looking a tad too heavy. I ride a T7 and even for long trips I have scaled my luggage right down. Light is right ;)
Yeah, the long distance set up is mainly for social trips like returning to see family in the UK for a couple of weeks. I drop the bags for trail riding when I'm there. I have used it for a TET run in Spain and it worked fine. I have developed a smaller pack for TET specific runs (see my TET pack video) and I have been able to purchase a lighter tent etc since making the video. Basic setup adds 20kg, TET adds another 7.5kg and the new long distance setup adds a further 5kg. It puts the bike weight at around 197kg fully loaded, which I believe is a shade lighter than the T7 ;-). There is a video in the pipeline to outline the latest setups due shortly, this will show the changes I've made based on the experience of the last 18 months. Having picked the bike up 5 times during a 3 day trip to the Auvergne, especially when they are upside down! I understand the impact of weight. As they say 'if you don't want to pick it up, don't fall off' :-) I am at a point where improving my riding skills will do more for me than lightening the load I think. Glad you enjoyed the video, I'm just trying to share information. Regards Mark P
@@markp87PR7 Thanks, Mark. Yup, your bike is definitely lighter right from the start, which makes a huge difference. I will keep watching your videos! :)
Hello, I have seen what you have done, it seems extremely well thought out. The most surprising thing for me, was our similarity. I am a retired Brit, living in France, with my wife ( since 2006) I have been a motard for 50 years. We have a GS650 Sertao which I have lightened a bit and added soft baggage (Oxford).I owned a PR4 for a while and was in contact with Mark Morales, I found him friendly and very helpful, but ultimately the PR4 engine is a poor thing, and I sold it. Where in France do you ride? I am always on the look out for new riding areas. We have a camping car, which carries my TTR250, and I ride the chemins wherever we go. Guy
Hi Guy, I am based in Haute Vienne 87. The latest section of the TET passes within 1km of our house now. Lots of Chemins locally and over into Charante too. The PR7 seems solid for most occasions. Off to the Pecos and TET in Northern Spain in a couple of weeks, we'll see how she fairs there. Plus a road trip back to the UK end of May, so some decent tests coming up. I am hoping to give some constructive feed back and video updates when time permits. Looks like you are well sorted out in the two bike scenario. I hope my one bike decision works out too! All the best MarkP
Hi Grant, I've been away for a week on the TET Spain, hence the delay. Sounds like you have had more than your fair share of troubles. Let 's hope that AJP see the long term harm of ignoring defects and the subsequent impact on sales. As I said previously, I am sure the recent world events will have contributed to AJP's ability to respond. I really hope they resolve your issues soon. Let me know when they do! ;-)
I am very happy with my PR7👍👍 But yes, a few things to sort. Lights are rubbish, so upgraded to LEDs. Much better. The fuel guage is next to useless. Also fitted crash bars like yours, and big heavy duty radiator guards. I use the bike for rallies and for racing on gravel roads. I am a short arse, but have learnt to manage that. The bike always brings out the hooligan in me, which is great for an old guy like me🤣🤣 Good info on the luggage, thanks.
Yes! All things considered, it is not a bad bike. It only needs a few upgrades as apposed to others that must be updated to function properly. When you look at the structure around the radiators, the crash bars are a must I feel. I only started making the videos to pull together all my research and make the information available to others. A couple of years ago, it was hard to find all the options. Glad you're enjoying yours and I appreciate the comment, thanks! :-)
Hi, How is the screen extender, does it stop wind noise? I find a lot of noise and air pressure with mine and have been thinking of using an extender and there are a few on the market.
Hi, yes the screen extender does make a big difference if you are tall in the saddle. It does not stop wind noise completely but it makes a very significant reduction in the direct impact of wind on your helmet. I had forgotten how effective it was until I rode home without it, after tearing it off in a bramble bush on the chemins.
Howdy Paulo. I couldn't get the guard to fit on my 22. well, it fit, but the master link crashes into it, not enough clearance. Thankfully i discovered this on a bike stand, not on the road. maybe it (mine) needs a spacer/washer. that whole area is super congested. the shifter is mounted (attached) behind the chain!?. I tried to adjust, and it was a nightmare. Only to discover there's only one position it really works in. I tried dropping it a bit, but then the shifter hits the frame (or something) and you can't downshift. so i had to put it back higher, fighting the chain the entire time.
hello there considering a PR7 but I am also short legged and never had the opportunity to sit on one, I would most certainly need the lowering link too, my inside leg measuring 28.5 and height 5' 7" wondered what your legs are and how manageable you find it, not unfamiliar to taller off road bikes and done lots of dirt with a old 1200GS too but the PR7 appears very tall unsure as a 55 year old with not brilliant joints that I could get on at all with a fortnights worth of luggage on it. I am guessing my riding requirements are on a par with yours except I live in soggy Wales with a gate every 3 minutes to get off and on for, so wondering what thoughts you may have and perhaps you could even measure the seat height and sag level you have please, out of interest did you look in to seat foam trimming etc or similar as an alternative or in conjunction. The AJP's are expensive for me but thinking to treat myself but not sure if at my age I may have missed the boat a little and go with my brain and find a little CRF. thanks for your vid, sounds like your a real world practical rider so its good to see your info.
Hello!, I'm 5'9" and 29" leg. The PR7 is quoted at 920mm seat height, mine measured 930mm when I picked it up. I aimed for a 3rd sag, just over 93mm, ended up at just short of 90mm. The seat height is now settled at 870mm after fitting the drop link which I find manageable. I'm not in favour of re-profiling the seat, I find moving around the seat for different applications of journey is a must and could be restrictive and ultimately annoying on the PR7. I am 62 and been away from bikes for many years, so you are better prepared than I was for riding this bike. Using the pegs to mount is straight forward, though removing the auto retracting side stand pin is a must. Getting the stand down is almost impossible for short legs with it fitted. If you only ride local, something lighter would be easier, but if you intend to travel distance too, then the PR7 is a good choice that you can make work. I hear there is a major update for the 2023 model, so worth looking out for. Regards MarkP
@@markp87PR7 thank you very much for the information never been one for mounting via the pegs on the sidestand but needs must, is the sidestand steel or alloy?
I believe the stand is steel? It seems sturdy enough, though I did hear a second hand report of stands breaking, though I have no idea why. I document the stand changes in this vid' if you haven't seen it th-cam.com/video/g035vueIo5k/w-d-xo.html. All the best MarkP
At this time they were the Lomo medium panniers. I have recently swapped out to the actual crash bar bags but still use one medium on the rear. The specs are contained in my video th-cam.com/video/aPyYZ-kOFdo/w-d-xo.html ... Lomo bags on the PR7, if you want to check it out :-) They are all good strong bags.
genay-racing.fr/boutique/index.php?id_product=44&id_product_attribute=0&rewrite=ajp-motos-pr7-moto-650-adventure-rallye-raid-enduro&controller=product. There is a price for the standard model and an additional option for the power up version which increases the bhp, this adds around 14-1500 euros? to the base price. I bought the standard version which is quieter and I have never found it lacking power in any situation.
Hi Simon, I'm an average 5'9" but only have a 29" inside leg which is why I felt I had to fit the drop link. My riding buddy has a 32" inside leg and manages ok with his PR7, though he is a more experienced rider than me.
To be fair, I think smaller manufactures are struggling the most at the moment. Pre Covid, I only found good reports about the factory support. Better than what I saw for KTM and Husqvana at the time. There are always limitations to buying small manufacturers products, but as you said...Great Bike! ;-)
Yes but this problem has been befor Covid this is on 2018 bikes that have had on going problems and all the e get from the factory y is excuse after excuse , and stil things not resolved
What issues have you had? I started looking at the PR7 in 2019 and the model has quickly been updated with each new evolution. My major concern was with the fuel injection, which they updated in the 2021 release. The brakes, fuel feed and suspension have all been improved over time. A lot off the major manufacturers allow problems to continue for years. While browsing the forums, it seems the majority of production issues are improved with aftermarket products. Due to the low production volume of AJP, the range of 3rd party parts available will be an issue I'm sure. All I can say is that, so far, I have been able to obtain everything I have needed and no major issues to date. I'll see what the next 5k shows up.
Unfortunately we are in South Africa and we hat with the after sales service that has been got from the bikes we imported into South Africa we have had no joy with AJP issue injector,’steppermotor ,’clutch, slave etc AJP s excuse is they were not purchased from a authorised dealer , the bikes were purchased direct with AJP , packed by them and shipped to South Africa , all of the 4 bikes that were supplied have had problems before they have even reached 10000km and the response from the factory is shocking to Say the least.
This is what I got from AJP after I told them their service was shocking . Would you get a bike from these people Dear Mr. Grant Embleton As a motorcycle manufacturer for over 35 years, all positive, negative, constructive or otherwise comments deserve our attention, and from them we draw the necessary relations to improve our products. That's what we did in recent years on the PR7 and that's why the model's worldwide success is having. As such, we will monitor the situation you refer to with the respective importer of the AJP brand. What we cannot accept is lack of manners as shown in your email. It remains for us to wish you the best of luck, and you don't need to try the AJP PR7 version 2022, it's definitely not the motorcycle for you. Best regards
I got asked the same question about a week ago, this what I replied, just my opinion: Originally I was looking at the Husky 701 LR (690ktm), but if you dive into the forums you quickly find horror stories of rocker problems, side stand sensor problems etc. If you look on TH-cam, you will see many trips on the 690 stopped because of major faults. These are known faults that have not been addressed by KTM for years. Reliability and cost of ownership are always top of my list. Also, if you look at the early problems that surfaced on the PR7, they were all quickly dealt with on the next model update, showing a continual improvement in product reliability. AJP actually care about their product quality and don't simply trade off their name like big brands. I have covered 10,000 kms so far and apart from a clutch master cylinder rubber split, I have had no other issues with my PR7. The price tag we pay for bikes in this market, we should at least expect reliability. That is what I have with the PR7, it puts a smile on my face every day!
@@markp87PR7 thank you and yes you are right on the cost of ownership it's the first thing I look for, quality part's all so seems like a top priority for the company, seems i shall have to wait for next year's delivery
They were told to get their act together or I would go to social media about their lack of after sales service to a customer that they supplied a bike directly .
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MarkP87, this is the most useful video anybody has produced for the PR7 with regard to long distance luggage solutions. Thank you very much for posting it and for providing the links for the kit. Now I know there is a rack system available it makes this great bike a serious choice for long distance international adventure for myself, all the best from Devon and many thanks again for your helpful advice.
Thank you James for your very kind words. I believe there is more than one option now, certainly for rear carriers like 3D Moto etc. Most PR7 riders are TET orientated and strap on bags are usually favoured. I developed the bike to be a great all rounder (watch 3 bikes, if you haven't already) and the pannier frames are a useful part of the concept. Back in 2019 it was hard to find PR7 information so I hoped that sharing my months of research would help make it easier. Suppliers and products change and indeed some of the items I linked to are no longer available. The good news is that more and more small manufactures are making great products now for the bike, so things are looking good for this great motorcycle. I'm a west country lad myself but do enjoy living here in central France. Thanks again for your comment and regards from Haute Vienne.
An impressive well thought out presentation Mark, like your style. I'm coming up to making the same decision. My AT gets a bit intimidating at times for off road, especially here in New Zealands South Island. I added a CRF Rally 300 but ideally 40 to 50hp would be more realistic and under 150kg wet. I rode a mates well set up DR 400 enought to realise had I known, I would not have bought the 300. I spent big on suspension and and now am sitting in inbetween waiting to see what my options are. For me the perfect bike would be the ktm 500 or Husky 501 but because of plastic subframes and low service intervals and a starting price around $17000+nzd before I even start, the Kove looks bloody attractive. If they get compliance adr in Australia I'll go over and tour Aus and bring it back. Meantime its down to the Sth Island with my Honda 300 for a month in February.
Thank you for the comment! My riding buddy has 2 Africa Twins, the original and a new model. He now rides the PR7 and loves it. For the money I feel it's hard to beat. The standard output is fine for me and has taken me anywhere I need to go. Servicing schedules was the main issue for me when looking at the enduro options around in 2019. The Kove does indeed look interesting, though I do wonder about the long distance road aspect, which is important to my all round utilisation. NZ is my dream destination and I hope to holiday there in the next few years. I know a couple of ex UK guys who live there and it would be good to see them again. Meanwhile, enjoy your ride on South Island... wish I was there! ;-)
Such an interesting video but also calm. That's hard to find lately. Very pleasant to watch :)
Thanks Jef, I always try to give information over sensationalism... may be I'm just an old geezer ;-)
Great video, my 23 PR7 arrives in 3 days! Quick question, can you give a link to the rally screen extension you have mounted? Does it do a better job at motorway speeds?
amzn.eu/d/9Rd04HN this is the screen Gary. It works well once you set the angle to suit. I can feel the wind sheer above the helmet when I stick a hand up.
Interesting review and detailing of your personalisation. I look forward to seeing how you progress with the durability.
Thank you! 5k service due end April and May is an intense period. The Pecos in Northern Spain 2nd week and then the UK for 2 wks, probably another 4k. Hoping the durability will continue as expected. Vid' updates after the trips ;-)
Hi, thanks for sharing. I tested the PR7 and the 701, then bought the 701 for few reasons: I didn't feel good on the PR7 from ergonomics, I prefered the capacity and low vibrations of the 701 engine together with electronics (ABS, TC, 2 Maps), and I have a Husqvarna dealer close to my home.
Thank you! I was originally looking at the 701LR, but having scoured the forums I became concerned that the reliability issues might get too expensive for me. It also seemed that the issues hadn't been addressed by the manufacturer. For this kind of cash I at least expect reliability from a big brand. I prefer the basic simplicity of the PR7 design. All I see now with high tech features is expense and potential problems.Hope the 701 is good for you and all goes well. Thanks again for taking the time to comment :-)
@@markp87PR7 did you see the TH-cam channel of Long Ride Zone , riding PR7, interesting reports on PR7. On my side 8000km on my 701, so far so good. Enjoy 😀
@@gillesgenete9598 Glad the 701 is going well for you. Yes, I stay abreast of the PR7 stuff on here. Most of the niggling issues with the PR7 relate to the older models, though mostly easy to resolve. No broken rockers or the like. The '21 model dealt with most of these, mine is fine so far. A dealer told me that there is a significant update coming for 2023, so keep your eyes open, just in case ;-)
Good review of your preparation 👍 front low protection is interesting
I think I may have found a better way to guard the tower area, we shall see :-)
Thanks for a very good review! Greetings from Sweden.
And thank you from France for dropping by :-)
Really helpful. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for commenting! It's all about sharing information. Glad it was of help to you. :-)
I just happened to stumble on to this video and it was excellent! And unique in that it tackled the question of one vs two bikes. I am in the U.S. and I have never heard of that bike before. I assume it is not offered here. What would be the equivalent kind of bike available in the U.S. to take a look at? Can you update us on this bike and cost etc? And how are the highway miles, comfort and speed? What has been the greatest distance you have traveled on this bike in a day? How many miles have you put on this bike? Thanks
Hi, the PR7 is available in the USA though initially it was for competition only I believe, though this may have changed? the bike is comfortable and good on the road able to cruise at 70mph. I have ridden 8-9hr days both on and off road without major discomfort. About 350miles in one day and around 1000miles over 3days is max so far having covered 6000miles to date.
Links ... ajpmotos.com/pages/store-locator
www.motoajpusa.com/
These guys should be able to help you with regard to price etc.
Other bikes in the same range would be the KTM690 or Husqvana 701, also a new Aprilia 660 is fresh to market. Hope this helps you out. Thanks for the communication :-)
@@markp87PR7 Thanks! So, I guess you answered the two bike dilemma and found one bike that is an all arounder. The video was very good! Got me thinking about a bike that I would not have considered and I can see how it addresses all of issues. Thanks
Thanks for the video! All I wouls say is that your long distance load is looking a tad too heavy. I ride a T7 and even for long trips I have scaled my luggage right down. Light is right ;)
Yeah, the long distance set up is mainly for social trips like returning to see family in the UK for a couple of weeks. I drop the bags for trail riding when I'm there. I have used it for a TET run in Spain and it worked fine. I have developed a smaller pack for TET specific runs (see my TET pack video) and I have been able to purchase a lighter tent etc since making the video. Basic setup adds 20kg, TET adds another 7.5kg and the new long distance setup adds a further 5kg. It puts the bike weight at around 197kg fully loaded, which I believe is a shade lighter than the T7 ;-). There is a video in the pipeline to outline the latest setups due shortly, this will show the changes I've made based on the experience of the last 18 months. Having picked the bike up 5 times during a 3 day trip to the Auvergne, especially when they are upside down! I understand the impact of weight. As they say 'if you don't want to pick it up, don't fall off' :-) I am at a point where improving my riding skills will do more for me than lightening the load I think. Glad you enjoyed the video, I'm just trying to share information. Regards Mark P
@@markp87PR7 Thanks, Mark. Yup, your bike is definitely lighter right from the start, which makes a huge difference. I will keep watching your videos! :)
Hello, I have seen what you have done, it seems extremely well thought out. The most surprising thing for me, was our similarity. I am a retired Brit, living in France, with my wife ( since 2006) I have been a motard for 50 years. We have a GS650 Sertao which I have lightened a bit and added soft baggage (Oxford).I owned a PR4 for a while and was in contact with Mark Morales, I found him friendly and very helpful, but ultimately the PR4 engine is a poor thing, and I sold it. Where in France do you ride? I am always on the look out for new riding areas. We have a camping car, which carries my TTR250, and I ride the chemins wherever we go. Guy
Hi Guy, I am based in Haute Vienne 87. The latest section of the TET passes within 1km of our house now. Lots of Chemins locally and over into Charante too. The PR7 seems solid for most occasions. Off to the Pecos and TET in Northern Spain in a couple of weeks, we'll see how she fairs there. Plus a road trip back to the UK end of May, so some decent tests coming up. I am hoping to give some constructive feed back and video updates when time permits. Looks like you are well sorted out in the two bike scenario. I hope my one bike decision works out too! All the best MarkP
I must add we have been trying to get them to rectify a ECU problem now for over a year .
Hi Grant, I've been away for a week on the TET Spain, hence the delay. Sounds like you have had more than your fair share of troubles. Let 's hope that AJP see the long term harm of ignoring defects and the subsequent impact on sales. As I said previously, I am sure the recent world events will have contributed to AJP's ability to respond. I really hope they resolve your issues soon. Let me know when they do! ;-)
I am very happy with my PR7👍👍
But yes, a few things to sort. Lights are rubbish, so upgraded to LEDs. Much better.
The fuel guage is next to useless.
Also fitted crash bars like yours, and big heavy duty radiator guards.
I use the bike for rallies and for racing on gravel roads.
I am a short arse, but have learnt to manage that.
The bike always brings out the hooligan in me, which is great for an old guy like me🤣🤣
Good info on the luggage, thanks.
Yes! All things considered, it is not a bad bike. It only needs a few upgrades as apposed to others that must be updated to function properly. When you look at the structure around the radiators, the crash bars are a must I feel. I only started making the videos to pull together all my research and make the information available to others. A couple of years ago, it was hard to find all the options. Glad you're enjoying yours and I appreciate the comment, thanks! :-)
Hi, How is the screen extender, does it stop wind noise? I find a lot of noise and air pressure with mine and have been thinking of using an extender and there are a few on the market.
Hi, yes the screen extender does make a big difference if you are tall in the saddle. It does not stop wind noise completely but it makes a very significant reduction in the direct impact of wind on your helmet. I had forgotten how effective it was until I rode home without it, after tearing it off in a bramble bush on the chemins.
@@markp87PR7 Cheers for that, I’ll give it a go on mine.
3:43 - As a side not, the sprocket guard kits are made in UK-Southampton by Hilton McCarthy, and Thork just resell them ✌️
Howdy Paulo. I couldn't get the guard to fit on my 22. well, it fit, but the master link crashes into it, not enough clearance. Thankfully i discovered this on a bike stand, not on the road. maybe it (mine) needs a spacer/washer. that whole area is super congested. the shifter is mounted (attached) behind the chain!?. I tried to adjust, and it was a nightmare. Only to discover there's only one position it really works in. I tried dropping it a bit, but then the shifter hits the frame (or something) and you can't downshift. so i had to put it back higher, fighting the chain the entire time.
@@steveh545 Thats strange... special since Thork are near AJP they have access to bikes to test i believe...
Did you tryed to contact them?
@@x_Paulo_Nogueira_x nope. It’s a minor thing. I’ll sort it out later. Right now just trying to get the clutch to work properly.
hello there considering a PR7 but I am also short legged and never had the opportunity to sit on one, I would most certainly need the lowering link too, my inside leg measuring 28.5 and height 5' 7" wondered what your legs are and how manageable you find it, not unfamiliar to taller off road bikes and done lots of dirt with a old 1200GS too but the PR7 appears very tall unsure as a 55 year old with not brilliant joints that I could get on at all with a fortnights worth of luggage on it. I am guessing my riding requirements are on a par with yours except I live in soggy Wales with a gate every 3 minutes to get off and on for, so wondering what thoughts you may have and perhaps you could even measure the seat height and sag level you have please, out of interest did you look in to seat foam trimming etc or similar as an alternative or in conjunction. The AJP's are expensive for me but thinking to treat myself but not sure if at my age I may have missed the boat a little and go with my brain and find a little CRF. thanks for your vid, sounds like your a real world practical rider so its good to see your info.
Hello!, I'm 5'9" and 29" leg. The PR7 is quoted at 920mm seat height, mine measured 930mm when I picked it up. I aimed for a 3rd sag, just over 93mm, ended up at just short of 90mm. The seat height is now settled at 870mm after fitting the drop link which I find manageable. I'm not in favour of re-profiling the seat, I find moving around the seat for different applications of journey is a must and could be restrictive and ultimately annoying on the PR7. I am 62 and been away from bikes for many years, so you are better prepared than I was for riding this bike. Using the pegs to mount is straight forward, though removing the auto retracting side stand pin is a must. Getting the stand down is almost impossible for short legs with it fitted. If you only ride local, something lighter would be easier, but if you intend to travel distance too, then the PR7 is a good choice that you can make work. I hear there is a major update for the 2023 model, so worth looking out for. Regards MarkP
@@markp87PR7 thank you very much for the information never been one for mounting via the pegs on the sidestand but needs must, is the sidestand steel or alloy?
I believe the stand is steel? It seems sturdy enough, though I did hear a second hand report of stands breaking, though I have no idea why. I document the stand changes in this vid' if you haven't seen it th-cam.com/video/g035vueIo5k/w-d-xo.html. All the best MarkP
What size lomo crash bar bags are they?
At this time they were the Lomo medium panniers. I have recently swapped out to the actual crash bar bags but still use one medium on the rear. The specs are contained in my video th-cam.com/video/aPyYZ-kOFdo/w-d-xo.html ... Lomo bags on the PR7, if you want to check it out :-) They are all good strong bags.
How much does the PR7 cost?
genay-racing.fr/boutique/index.php?id_product=44&id_product_attribute=0&rewrite=ajp-motos-pr7-moto-650-adventure-rallye-raid-enduro&controller=product. There is a price for the standard model and an additional option for the power up version which increases the bhp, this adds around 14-1500 euros? to the base price. I bought the standard version which is quieter and I have never found it lacking power in any situation.
Hi Mark. What height are you?
Hi Simon, I'm an average 5'9" but only have a 29" inside leg which is why I felt I had to fit the drop link. My riding buddy has a 32" inside leg and manages ok with his PR7, though he is a more experienced rider than me.
@@markp87PR7 thanks!
@@touchingthecloth You're welcome, hope it helps
Great bike , bad after sales from Factory
To be fair, I think smaller manufactures are struggling the most at the moment. Pre Covid, I only found good reports about the factory support. Better than what I saw for KTM and Husqvana at the time. There are always limitations to buying small manufacturers products, but as you said...Great Bike! ;-)
Yes but this problem has been befor Covid this is on 2018 bikes that have had on going problems and all the e get from the factory y is excuse after excuse , and stil things not resolved
What issues have you had? I started looking at the PR7 in 2019 and the model has quickly been updated with each new evolution. My major concern was with the fuel injection, which they updated in the 2021 release. The brakes, fuel feed and suspension have all been improved over time. A lot off the major manufacturers allow problems to continue for years. While browsing the forums, it seems the majority of production issues are improved with aftermarket products. Due to the low production volume of AJP, the range of 3rd party parts available will be an issue I'm sure. All I can say is that, so far, I have been able to obtain everything I have needed and no major issues to date. I'll see what the next 5k shows up.
Unfortunately we are in South Africa and we hat with the after sales service that has been got from the bikes we imported into South Africa we have had no joy with AJP issue injector,’steppermotor ,’clutch, slave etc AJP s excuse is they were not purchased from a authorised dealer , the bikes were purchased direct with AJP , packed by them and shipped to South Africa , all of the 4 bikes that were supplied have had problems before they have even reached 10000km and the response from the factory is shocking to
Say the least.
This is what I got from AJP after I told them their service was shocking . Would you get a bike from these people
Dear Mr. Grant Embleton
As a motorcycle manufacturer for over 35 years, all positive, negative, constructive or otherwise comments deserve our attention, and from them we draw the necessary relations to improve our products.
That's what we did in recent years on the PR7 and that's why the model's worldwide success is having.
As such, we will monitor the situation you refer to with the respective importer of the AJP brand.
What we cannot accept is lack of manners as shown in your email.
It remains for us to wish you the best of luck, and you don't need to try the AJP PR7 version 2022, it's definitely not the motorcycle for you.
Best regards
had you looked at the ktm 690 enduro?
I got asked the same question about a week ago, this what I replied, just my opinion: Originally I was looking at the Husky 701 LR (690ktm), but if you dive into the forums you quickly find horror stories of rocker problems, side stand sensor problems etc. If you look on TH-cam, you will see many trips on the 690 stopped because of major faults. These are known faults that have not been addressed by KTM for years.
Reliability and cost of ownership are always top of my list. Also, if you look at the early problems that surfaced on the PR7, they were all quickly dealt with on the next model update, showing a continual improvement in product reliability. AJP actually care about their product quality and don't simply trade off their name like big brands. I have covered 10,000 kms so far and apart from a clutch master cylinder rubber split, I have had no other issues with my PR7. The price tag we pay for bikes in this market, we should at least expect reliability. That is what I have with the PR7, it puts a smile on my face every day!
@@markp87PR7 thank you and yes you are right on the cost of ownership it's the first thing I look for, quality part's all so seems like a top priority for the company, seems i shall have to wait for next year's delivery
I don't think you need 2 bikes - you need at least 5....
I'm thinking...Super Sport, Heavy Touring, PR7, 250 Enduro and Electric Trials... If I had the budget ;-)
They were told to get their act together or I would go to social media about their lack of after sales service to a customer that they supplied a bike directly .