I spent hours and hours farming the sphere grid for this fight, and this is how it went : Me : Wow, already 6-million hp gone, i might actually do it ! * boss destroys my pattern and casts auto-heal on himself* Me : ..... HEY YOJIMBO, WANT TO BE A MILLIONAIRE ?
Yeah, i figured that out after he had already recovered millions of HP, but the thing is that i was still in deep trouble, i was barely surviving the fight to begin with, and then he killed Auron, screwing my Double HP + 0 MP buffs. So.... er...yeah, Yojimbo.
just wanna say...I remembered this comment when it came to this fight... i was around an hour into the fight, had one hit left on the right hand and was getting ready for a 'mighty G' when it accidently attack the wrong target...the hand wiped a party member, other hand came back...then said 'f' it, rotated Yuna in...
@@RepentInReprise now you see, the problem with that is, Yu Yevon Kills the summoner(Countless members of the fayth in this case) and takes control of the Aeon as Sins new Core Which, again, in thos case, would.male.Sins next incarnation invincible
It was speculated for a while that Penance was Summoner Gandofs Final Aeon which is why it has a large scar in its torso and why it was dormant in the large chasm near the calm lands where he fought Sin. Though i think artbooks disproved this later saying it was a forbidden machina used by Bevelle during the War with Zanarkand
What makes you think they did not already for a past sin ? That is the farplane's abyss he comes from (as shown in X-2). He does look like some kind of ultimate aeon. Only ultimate aeons seem to be that unique and powerful (and from which temple would you get Penance anyway ?). Pyreflies also prove he is a sort of biomechanical entities not entirely living and not entirely machine.
The top of the ship is comprised of the rarest form of alloy know to all. It goes by the name of Plot Tanium. Its an indestructible alloy that is surprisingly easy to work with and mold. While being unbreakable no matter how thin it is made!
@@alexanderdreyfus58 I know this is a 2 year old comment, but damn I'm surprised that probably no one understand the pun you just made. Pretty underrated.
It may look monotonous, but everyone that played the game when it came out, and spent the time to get this far, and met this boss, knows how much time and dedication it would take back then to make the fight this easy. It is just incredibly difficult, or at least very time consuming.
This is my favorite game of all time. I grinded the sphere grid and everything else to make the party wicked strong. However, this was on ps2. Now that the remastered has come out, I'm fighting the want to grind for these battles on the remastered. You're right,it takes SOOOO much time to get your party like this with great equipment, etc
@@daisuke4bleach The luck spheres and some other spheres, they take a lot of time .. those monsters are the arena must be dealt with in a specific way. Collecting the monsters take a lot of time. But it is fun when one has gotten far enough.
@@rober4 lmao what, how is this not squaresoft music when the game came out when it was still called squaresoft and also is by a composer who has worked with the series for 20 years
Ok for those wondering about the lore of Penance I think the 2 likely answers to what it is are: . Either a culmination of souls of high summoners/guardians from a variety of different fights with sin at the calm lands that were never sent, forever roaming in the scar .High Summoner Godof’s final aeon, who was responsible for the scar in the calm lands 400 years prior to ffx I think the dark aeons are related as the cult of yu yevon realised the power of penance rivalled Sin/yu yevon, so the dark aeons were yu yevon’s method of fragmenting/containing that power Penance’s design however looks a lot like a machina, so there is a theory that al bhed were able to make a machina that was powered by the souls of the dead. But I mean yu yevon also used machina in the temple of bevelle so it could maybe be correlated to yu yevon too. Would explain why you can hear the yu yevon musical motif in the penance OST. Whatever the real answer is, Ffx don’t really do a good job on explaining this big floaty boi.
I'd say the final aeon theory holds up with how strong penance is, although yu yevon would have merged with godofs final aeon one would think is. And the cult theory considering the DAs have to be killed just have the fucker show up, minus yu yevon as yu yevon would be the amoeba you find him as in Godofs day. Add the fact a good few of the dark aeons are found near their temples like valefor for example. And maybe seymour knew of them as Dark Ifrit was found where home was and maybe he was used by the guado to ransack it otherwise its a bit random he's just there chilling and waiting. Also, there's precedent for final aeons to act independently as jecht and dark ifrit, bahamut and anima acted independently with no summoner. Makes you wish penance had more references in game. I had the theory the dark aeons were born from penance the same way ultima was from omega as the colour palettes kind of match up and penance was almost like a dark final aeon
I once read the official wikia about Penance. Penance isn't a a Dark Aeon or anything related to an Aeon. It's not an unsent either. The wikia explain that Penance is the ultimate machina created by Bevelle on its final attempt to stop Yuna and her guardians.
It may not look that impressive now but imagine doing this back in 2004 after buying the PAL version of the game off eBay and all the ins and outs and what and where to grind things werent publically available all over the Internet like it is now. Everything you knew was word of mouth from friends or from a GameFAQS text guide with the ASCII art. You were left to figure it out on your own for the most part. Hell back then I only knew about the celestial weapons because my cousin knew about it from one of his friends who knew about it because of a pen pal from Japan. Its trivial now but getting to this point back in the games primetime was legendary.
@@iris089 That's normal. That's how it was done back in the day minus the pen pal stuff. Games like this were impossible unless you knew a nerd who did it all.
@@60wwediva When I was a kid, the only way to know a Fatality move in Mortal Kombat 2 is to ask a friend from his friends OR to buy a game magazine. But this one took it to the next level to have a penpal from Japan.
Your divine punishment for maxing out the sphere grid, getting the best gear, and dealing all of the damage is a fourty minute fight where nothing interesting happens. I sure hope that was the meta commentary the developers were going for. Because that sure is irony LOL. Of course, hella impressive. Such dedication and planning that goes into this fight.
I just have to say with all the "What's the point?" and "Why would you waste your time for such a repetitive fight" and yadda yadda yadda... I'm not sure those kind of commenters will really understand the feeling of getting a true full completion of a game that seriously defined many of our childhoods (or even adulthoods for that matter.) This game has a very special place in many of our hearts. And knowing you've truly mastered it? THAT holds more satisfaction than any Platinum Trophy could possibly dare to try. (Although that Trophy is a HELL of a bragging right too... ;D) I have 4 words my friend... "Well done and congratulations."
This fight was so good, its basically an orchestrated performance, one mistake and you are paying the price or just recovering for the rest of the battle!
To defeat Penance without Zanmato is easy . No need of ribbon, bhpl is never needed. No summon is needed . Strategy for penance is easy but very specific formula... All three characters must have 255 strength 255 defense 255 agility with luck at least 100. Preferably wakka tidus and rikku, but Auron or Yuna is OK .All three must equip fully powered celestial weapon. All three must wear Shaman Armor with following: Auto haste Auto protect Auto potion (sell all potions except X Potions at least 90+ in stock) Defense +20% In beginning of battle have Rikku Mix ultra nul all (cheer x5). Hit and kill the arms one by one preferably with quick hit ability , then the main body when arms are gone, defeat the arm prior to it's turn. The arms must never get a turn. No character need to die in entire battle. When penance hit you obliteration all party auto heal with auto potion ability. When penance hit you with immolation in second form immediately dispel that character. Penance can be defeated with this method in around 40-45 minutes in PS2 You can set overdrive mode to Comrade if you use overdrive of wakka or anyone to hasten overdrives.
37 minutes, of everyone doing the maximum potential for damage, using quick hit to make every single hit with reduced reaction times, constant haste for speed, auto potions healing with nothing by x-potions, and maximum (im)possible stats to not die in every single turn. Not saying this boss is impossible. But would need way to much time for any sane person to farm for materials/exp to do this fight legitimately. Great video though!
Literally the only thing you need in this battle is: Tidus, Wakka, Rikku all with fully powered Celestial Weapon. 255 str, 255 def, around 230 spd. 110 luk, armor: def 20%, auto haste, auto potion, auto protect. item: 99 x-potion, mix for hot spurs, eccentrick and ultra nullall. All can be farmed within a day.
This boss is actually super easy. Dark Magus Sisters is probably the hardest fight as it's at a perfect point where you arenn't that powerful yet. At this point you've done everything. This isn't even an efficient way of killing Penance, you can do it in half the time easily.
Christos Soteriou Hell no!! I beat Dark Magus Sister while fighting against all 3 of them. Penance is way harder! what sucks is his second form honestly. The First one is really easy... but the second form is a pain in the ass.
Cid did one hell of a job creating this masterpiece to be completely indestructible against all odds. Probably, the grandest accomplishment he has ever done in any Final Fantasy game. Praise the Sun!
Lol The sun. Dark Souls. I found quite a few weapons referencing Cid and the Highwind from FF7.. like 'Highwind' lol a Kimahri spear. I think it's Triple Overdrive? I forgot I didn't use it.
I don't know why some people insist that anything above 170 agility is completely useless. I saw someone else's video of this fight with his agility a little above 170, and he was forced to use overdrives to destroy the arms before they could get turns at the beginning of the fight. I want to be able to do that without overdrives, and according to this video, having 255 agility DOES make a difference.
Honestly, I kind of felt cheated when I beat Penance, since it required so much time & effort to unlock the Celestial Weapons, capture all those fiends for the Monster Arena so you can grind out the necessary stats, and then hunt down and defeat the Dark Aeons...and yet the reward is minimal.
Dude by that point, what else is there to get? You are maxed out in literally everything and you just defeated the strongest creature in the game. What is the point of getting stronger if you can conquer everything? Tbh i wish there was like a “ignore magic defense” type of item to make lulu a lot more better with the magic stuff because by the late game, magics are incredibly useless. For me if there’d be an ultimate reward after beating penance, that would be it.
Man this boss took a lot out of me. The sheer amount of concentration to not F up your rotation was exhilarating. Took me like 4 or 5 tries within a span of 3 hours to beat him. Wish I recorded the entire match. I only was able to recover like 15 mins which is uploaded.
@@nogunk147 That does make sense as a theory. Strange that there’s zero textual reference to it in the game. No one even comments like “What is this?” it just happens.
Well if you watch the cut scene when penance appears. He comes up from the chasm I'm speaking of. He's summoned and appears. Easy to speculate that he is most likely the final summoning of the summoner that caused that chasm
"Penance" = "payment for one's sins". You (your party) comited the ultimate act of hubris/sin: killing the (dark) Aeons (which would be something akin to killing Olympic Gods, in Greek mythology, for example), so Penance is supposed to be your "Ten Batsu" ("Divine Punishment" - written in his body) for it (the hubris of breaking the "natural order" of the cosmos: human beings killing/defeating divine creatures: inferior-order beings (humans) killing superior-order beings (the Aeons) ). Supposedly, Yevon, who is a demiurgic figure in FFX's Universe, is the one summoning it.
@@dildonicplague Ruby Weapon is an incredibly easy boss if you have W-Summon and three Mime materia (or W-Summon, a KOTR summon with "MP Absorb" linked, and two Mime materia). Start off with two dead party members, start off by reviving them, and then W-Summon Hades (which will inflict Stop) and then KOTR. He will be unable to cast Ultima and you can either Mime this continually or risk W-Summoning KOTR for a few turns before switching back to Hades/KOTR. As long as you can get into that rhythm, Ruby is simple. I had more issues With Emerald, personally.
Slow and steady gets the Platinum. Thanks for these strats because after getting hit Judgement Day, I wanted to be sure of what I can do. I had no idea I was struck with Armor/Mental break either during that second phase attack either. I just beat him though and it probably took about as long as you did but that's alright because it got me another Platinum for my collection. Again, thanks for showing off how you did it without Zanmato no matter how tedious it was :)
Amazing dude, as someone who gave up around Dark Ixion around your upload date because I realized I wouldn't get far without the other Sphere Grid , this was amazing to watch, and it shows you prepared a lot for this battle. Well done
The sphere grid is cake once you complete the arena yeah that takes a while and the don tonberry ap trick. The species and area conquests creations drop spheres and are pretty easy.
Interesting thing is there are words "ten batsu" written on his body cast with Spira language which translates in to "Divine punishment" from Japanese.
That's why he/she/it is "Penance" (payment for one's sins). You (your party) commited the ultimate Hubris of killing the (dark) Aeons (which is what makes him appear in the first place), so Penance is supposed to be your "Ten Batsu" (Divine Punishment) for it (the ultimate sin of Hubris).
Penance has 12,000,000 HP. Divide that by the damage cap, 99,999, and you get ~120. That's the number of max-damage hits you need to kill him. Divide that by 3, and you get ~40. That's the average number of hits each party member needs to dish out to destroy Penance. That wouldn't be so bad, except that you've got both his overpowered attacks and his arms that you have to keep under control, lest Penance cast Judgement Day.
Funny thing is Penance isn't even the hardest battle in FF-X. Once you already know the pattern, it's easy. The hard part is leveling up and farming lmao
Yeah this bastard requires a choreographed dance of, eliminate the arms then let one lone person do the attacks to the core. Then dispel the immolation. at 99,999 this bastard takes 120 hits minimum to take down. I did it myself but took almost 45 minutes. It's a long sit.
Hitting around 120 times is nothing when you fought Yiazmat from FFXII once :D Anyway, i really enjoyed the fight against Penance back then. Funny thing that HE was the main reason to buy my first PS2 lol
I don't care what anyone else says. This may have been a long repetitive fight and yeah you could've ended it one hit with zanmato but you put in the effort and earned that win. Congratulations and I hope you keep up the good work.
Exactly after spending awhile doing this and finally beating him it is so much more fulfilling than just zanmatoing him. I felt so overjoyed when he finally died lol mostly because all the other bosses weren't challenging.
Good one Mikagami. Trick in this fight is to keep an eye out on the right counter and not wait for 'bosses' turn with 'both arms'. Always take out one arm and in between get some hits onto his body while also keeping in mind the other hand. Normally I think around 6 times per arm at 99,999. I had HP break limit on the characters and of course carried 99 of those mega potions, 3 stars etc, Took around 40 minutes to beat him. Quick hit is the way to go and instead of Ribbon, add Defense in the last slot.
Gypruzz Caccamo exactly what I said. The original release of FFX didn't have penance or the dark Aeons. it took the international releases (which came half a year later, and not in the US) to add these guys in, and I think a few years after that when they released it again as 'ffx- greatest hits' that they had the US version (in terms of spelling and everything) to finally have the dark aeons and penance. If the OP didn't know these guys were available, he may have had the original US release.
For me personally. this was the hardest boss I've ever played (I beat Nenja Gaiden Black on master ninja difficulty) and I have never been able to beat this bastard. pain in the @$$
Yeah, the PAL version had this but not the NTSC version. Despite having the PAL version, I ended up stumbling upon penance online since I never managed to beat the Dark Aeons.
Sin was never meant to be a superboss. If people souls can turn into sin then sin power and destruction depends on who is controlling it. If Tidus father wasn't sin and someone else was, Spira would have been nuked during Kilika Be for real.
He’s the unsent fiend of the leader of Bevelle. The same Bevelle that destroyed Zanarkand, Yevon was able to survive to this era as Yu Yevon without being unsent thanks to Sin but not Bevelle Leader so he is forever tied to Machina design as a fiend. Penance is the opposite of Yu Yevon, while Yu Yevon depended on Aeons and human sacrifices for Sin and is not a dangerous boss to kill alone, Penance didn’t need any of that. The Bevelle leader relied on Machina though, so his fiend form will forever be that as a sick twisted joke until he is sent by the party of FFX
Took me 151 hours to platinum this game. However, I wouldn’t say it was a “hard” trophy, it just requires sooooooo much patience. I fully maxed out my characters before hunting down any of the dark aeons (aside from Valefor but he was a joke) and it was a breeze. Only died once to Anima, Bahamut, and Dark Yojimbo. Since it had to be done for the platinum anyway, I figured id get it out of the way first and boy am I glad I did. Defeating the dark aeons/Penance without fully maxing out the characters is pointless. You would be making the fights “harder” for no reason other than suffering hahaha
It might be possible to get it so fast... If it's not your first playthrough, if you just fill the rest of the empty nodes and not erase the +1/2 /3 ones to replace them with +4 and if you use Yojimbo for the superbosses then... naaah... 80 hours still feels too tight...
Even if the battle itself isn't that hard with the right setup, getting this far is a pretty monumental challenge in and of itself. For starters, you need the right armor, which would take quite some time to farm the materials for. Then there's the Celestial weapons, which are bound to take a while even if you don't bother to get all of them. Then you need to get your stats high enough to even stand a fighting chance, and while there is a way to level up incredibly fast, you need to farm more materials in order to do so, and may even need to farm extra spheres. Not to mention the Dark Aeons that need to be defeated as a prerequisite. So yeah, though you could argue that all of this isn't that hard, you still have to do pretty much everything else there is to do in the game before you can even attempt the fight. So I'd say it still ranks as one of the hardest trophies in the game to get, if not THE hardest
Wow, literally nothing happens when you beat the greatest challenge in the game? Not even a “we did it” or something? Hilarious that it drops armor and spheres when you couldn’t possibly get any stronger.
Yeah that's why I quit and was glad I actually forgot to get Anima. I would have been pissed to beat that thing and nothing happens. No cut scene, no secret scene or Zanarkand spotlight for Tidus. Not something rare that be such a great addition, nothing. Whoever developed FFX and thought about this is a major cunt. It's such a tideous grind heavy game that sucks so.many hours out of your life it's a shit storm. It's not fun at all and are just for adults who love the strategy challenge.
I think ffx is one of the best game and for me it's definitely one of my all time favs. However i dont like the fact that when you get that high on stats, black magic is useless as well most of the abilities. It's only quick hit and some mixes and some auto-potions etc. Why not move magic further with spells like blizzaja or multi-blizzaja or combinations like ice barrage (aqua, birth by sleep).
They were probably too busy worrying about boring, tedious side quests and excessive grinding to worry about more interesting and elaborate skills and move sets haha
Just watched a list of FF Super Bosses that placed Penance at #1. I can't imagine the insane amount of grinding it would require to get your characters to a point where you even have a chance at defeating Penance... ...but the fact that the game even allows you grow your characters to such strength that it's possible to defeat this boss a with a relatively simple strategy kinda takes away from the boss' difficulty. And once you reach that point, the fight itself isn't particularly interesting. The Boss just repeats the same attack, and every time you're hit you auto-restores back to full strength and continue. I feel like Penance isn't a difficult super boss, it's just a matter if you've spent enough time maxing out your characters. It's easily the strongest enemy in the game, and definitely the final test of strength a player can face in FFX, but from a design perspective, Penance isn't a particularly interesting boss. I'm studying to become a game designer, and the FF games have been a huge source of inspiration for me, so that's why I'm analyzing this so in-depth. I feel a more interesting boss would have more variability and do more things the player would have to react to and manage. Of course that all depends on the game also not allowing the characters to grow in strength to the point where they're immune to all threats and can auto-recover from all harm. Kinda removes the challenge if you can heal back to full strength every time you get hit and permanently have all the best buffs active at all times. But I still respect the amount of time it must have taken to reach the point where you're able to reach this level of power.
To defeat Penance without Zanmato is easy . No need of ribbon, bhpl is never needed. No summon is needed . Strategy for penance is easy but very specific formula... All three characters must have 255 strength 255 defense 255 agility with luck at least 100. Preferably wakka tidus and rikku, but Auron or Yuna is OK .All three must equip fully powered celestial weapon. All three must wear Shaman Armor with following: Auto haste Auto protect Auto potion (sell all potions except X Potions at least 90+ in stock) Defense +20% In beginning of battle have Rikku Mix ultra nul all (cheer x5). Hit and kill the arms one by one preferably with quick hit ability , then the main body when arms are gone, defeat the arm prior to it's turn. The arms must never get a turn. No character need to die in entire battle. When penance hit you obliteration all party auto heal with auto potion ability. When penance hit you with immolation in second form immediately dispel that character. Penance can be defeated with this method in around 40-45 minutes in PS2 You can set overdrive mode to Comrade if you use overdrive of wakka or anyone to hasten overdrives.
As someone who loves ffx from the day it came out all those years ago and beaten this game many many times, I knew of the dark Aeons and stopped after the first two or three on several play throughs, I had no idea this boss existed until today. Now I want to start a new game again and get to this point
@@muckus_the_macka7340 because I’ve played the game before and replaying a game Ive played before after being spoiled with modern graphics is difficult for me lol. I’m hoping they come out with x-3 someday but it’s probably too late.
They're actually really easy if you use the crater exploit. You can force the lightning to strike and then timing the dodges is really easy. I was able to do 223 consecutive in less than an hour total of trying.
I'm working my way towards this fight, but god damn I've got a lot of work to do. Farm spheres, capture monsters, farm items to make the best armour & then I have to beat Dark Yojimbo like 5 times I believe :(
Chiko Tembo I'm also 27 & I pretty much had to take time out of my life just to properly finish this lol Now it's done & I feel proud, so go for it man :)
I reached the same spot after 85 hours with Tidus, Yuna and Rikku with all eight stats at 255 (yes, 255 luck on all 3 of them because it looks pretty).
got the perseverance trophy randomly in calm lands trying to max my compatibility with yojimbo due to a glitch that still exists. so i just yojimbo-ed nemesis and got plat, never touched the game again.
I think penance is gandofs final aeon. If you look it appears out of gandofs scar of the calm lands and even looks like gandof in a way of you look at his statues at the temple even tho gandof isn’t the faith. I think it’s a final aeon because it’s the there right size and everything plus as I say it appears out of the scar and looks like gandof too.
To defeat Penance without Zanmato is easy . No need of ribbon, bhpl is never needed. No summon is needed . Strategy for penance is easy but very specific formula... All three characters must have 255 strength 255 defense 255 agility with luck at least 100. Preferably wakka tidus and rikku, but Auron or Yuna is OK .All three must equip fully powered celestial weapon. All three must wear Shaman Armor with following: Auto haste Auto protect Auto potion (sell all potions except X Potions at least 90+ in stock) Defense +20% In beginning of battle have Rikku Mix ultra nul all (cheer x5). Hit and kill the arms one by one preferably with quick hit ability , then the main body when arms are gone, defeat the arm prior to it's turn. The arms must never get a turn. No character need to die in entire battle. When penance hit you obliteration all party auto heal with auto potion ability. When penance hit you with immolation in second form immediately dispel that character. Penance can be defeated with this method in around 40-45 minutes in PS2 You can set overdrive mode to Comrade if you use overdrive of wakka or anyone to hasten overdrives.
once read the official wikia about Penance. Penance isn't a a Dark Aeon or anything related to an Aeon. It's not an unsent either. The wikia explain that Penance is the ultimate machina created by Bevelle on its final attempt to stop Yuna and her guardians.
So, I’m having a lot of trouble getting Tidus’ celestial weapon -his Sigil- and I know using him in this fight without it isn’t great because no max damage. Would Auron or Yuna be a sufficient replacement with their celestial and max stats?
As long as they're at max stats, then yes, they should be hitting at 99999 damage. However, Tidus does have a counter ability that kicks in if he's hit with Immolation that can speed up the damage.
just about finished with the platinum on this game. still need the last dark aeons and penance and finishing up the grid in all toons. what should i go for in luck on this boss. all my stats are 255 except for luck and mp.
After applying the UltraNullAll is just better to use Auron as it counters Penance attacks in the second half of the battle so you save some minutes. Boring battle anyway just did it because in my old PS2 I used zanmato to beat it and I felt I had to beat it legitely this time!
Oh man you have some insane perseverance, after 10 mins of fighting penance I literally just said fuck it and summoned Yojimbo and gave him all the gold I had. Like if he didn't Zanmato after that, I would have probably thrown the controller
Yea... ground this game to oblivion as a kid but I never beat this guy. I messed up on my armor buffs and was not in the mood for grinding the monster arena all over again, esp. after 100hrs+ into the game. It's crazy how addictive old FF games were. Maybe someday I'll pick it up again and do it right this time, who knows :)
trust me bro, I first played this when I was about 10 years old and I never got to this point in the game, its only after they made the HD remake for the ps4 that I decided to give it another shot and honestly these JRPG games are so addictive. Like as a true fan of JRPG's I cannot stop until I've eaten every single secret boss there is.
I never made it this far in the game. Honestly I normally can’t even get most characters last weapon. I like this final fantasy but idk the end grind always kill me drive for perfection. Probably the only one I never had a perfect 100% complete game.
I thought about doing this, like REALLY farming, and I guess its rewarding but a fight like this seems dull. I like barely surviving, having your characters grit out, getting lucky. no better feeling than beating a boss with a flaw party. major props for whoever can max their characters though.
Hmmmm....well the Dark aeons feel a lot like it. especially when you defeat Dark Anima with maxed stats. without HP limit and Ribbon because mega-graviton is fatal! xD also for me penance was pretty tough for some reason i messed up with the arms...you need to constantly check that at least one is down...yet you cant kill them in the order in which the other arm respawns immediately after killing the first one or youll be stuck in a loop making you barely getting sny hits in at penance....first time i beated him took me like 1 hr and 10 mins
How much defense and magic defense do you need to get Penance so "little" (9000 damage is little for Penance's standards) damage on you? And is Luck useful to have here?
Okay I could be remembering wrong but I thought immolation cast full break on you. How are your characters not getting one shot by immolation after it's been done once to them?
Why isnt he using Wakka's overdrive? I did that (long time ago). Killed the arms with quick hit and used the overdrive on the body. Had all stats maxed. Is it faster this way?
CID said earlier in game the airship wasn’t as stable as it looked. Intbink after all it’s been through and this fight proved it’s tougher then he thinks
Not as bad as farming magic to 255 that flan superboss was the worst enemy in the game. Took like 20 minutes to kill each attempt. Earth Eater at least goes down fairly quickly. I figured I'd skip over maxing out magic since its an irrelevant stat once you get enough strength
@@nogunk147 I'd argue maxing luck takes longer still, since you also have to tediously farm the spheres that actually activate your luck nodes. I don't quite remember how long the flan took to kill relative to earth eater, but earth eater is just the addendum to that stupid gel. That one wasn't quick to kill either, its death animation taking ages to complete.
@@nogunk147 Oh, and it's even worse. You need those luck-activating spheres for each character whose luck you max separately. So I am sure now, without a doubt, that luck is the most tedious stat to max.
I have a question why do you keep dispelling Rikku right now I’m trying to get my characters stats up and I’m working on luck right now and how did you get Wakas and Titus celestial weapon I’m having a hard time getting theirs
back in the early days of youtube this boss fight used to be divided into several videos
Zanmato would have saved time MASSIVELY.
@@destroyermcw626 It is a dreadfully boring fight without Zanmato.
Because of the 10-minute limit :P
@@Jugdjay yeah that sucked back then. Now people upload whole game walkthroughs
How about link us to that multiplprt vids so we can show some love to the guys who paved the way
I spent hours and hours farming the sphere grid for this fight, and this is how it went :
Me : Wow, already 6-million hp gone, i might actually do it !
* boss destroys my pattern and casts auto-heal on himself*
Me : ..... HEY YOJIMBO, WANT TO BE A MILLIONAIRE ?
Spectral Child Just cast dispel
Yeah, i figured that out after he had already recovered millions of HP, but the thing is that i was still in deep trouble, i was barely surviving the fight to begin with, and then he killed Auron, screwing my Double HP + 0 MP buffs. So.... er...yeah, Yojimbo.
hahahahahahah!
I’m just planning to Yojimbo it. Aint got no time for this
just wanna say...I remembered this comment when it came to this fight...
i was around an hour into the fight, had one hit left on the right hand and was getting ready for a 'mighty G' when it accidently attack the wrong target...the hand wiped a party member, other hand came back...then said 'f' it, rotated Yuna in...
Y'know, if Jecht really wanted to die, all he had to do was go find this thing.
LOL
@@RepentInReprise now you see, the problem with that is, Yu Yevon
Kills the summoner(Countless members of the fayth in this case) and takes control of the Aeon as Sins new Core
Which, again, in thos case, would.male.Sins next incarnation invincible
Penance could very wall be a final summoning.
It was speculated for a while that Penance was Summoner Gandofs Final Aeon which is why it has a large scar in its torso and why it was dormant in the large chasm near the calm lands where he fought Sin. Though i think artbooks disproved this later saying it was a forbidden machina used by Bevelle during the War with Zanarkand
@@nogunk147 That's pretty cool. It is hard, though, to imagine a subsequent Final Aeon besting this nightmare.
think i'll just live vicariously through this video...
And all this time we thought Sin was the biggest threat to Spira
don't forget about Vegnagun in the near future
they shouldve used this against sin
What makes you think they did not already for a past sin ? That is the farplane's abyss he comes from (as shown in X-2). He does look like some kind of ultimate aeon. Only ultimate aeons seem to be that unique and powerful (and from which temple would you get Penance anyway ?). Pyreflies also prove he is a sort of biomechanical entities not entirely living and not entirely machine.
+Claudio Polonia he wasn't used on past sins because that would mean he would be part of Yu Yevon and hes not
Sin is the biggest threat to spira, because penance was lying dormant all this time
Say what you want, the airship can take one hell of a beating xD
Good Al Bhed Build Quality xD
The top of the ship is comprised of the rarest form of alloy know to all. It goes by the name of Plot Tanium. Its an indestructible alloy that is surprisingly easy to work with and mold. While being unbreakable no matter how thin it is made!
@@stardust6004 GODDAMN AL BHED AND THEIR MACHINA
The power of the plot.
@@alexanderdreyfus58 I know this is a 2 year old comment, but damn I'm surprised that probably no one understand the pun you just made. Pretty underrated.
It may look monotonous, but everyone that played the game when it came out, and spent the time to get this far, and met this boss, knows how much time and dedication it would take back then to make the fight this easy. It is just incredibly difficult, or at least very time consuming.
Why didn't he Mug him? I wanted to see what you can steal from him
This is my favorite game of all time. I grinded the sphere grid and everything else to make the party wicked strong. However, this was on ps2. Now that the remastered has come out, I'm fighting the want to grind for these battles on the remastered. You're right,it takes SOOOO much time to get your party like this with great equipment, etc
@@daisuke4bleach The luck spheres and some other spheres, they take a lot of time .. those monsters are the arena must be dealt with in a specific way. Collecting the monsters take a lot of time.
But it is fun when one has gotten far enough.
It took me 6 months of grinding, as well as countless hours trying to get all celestial weapons.
Zanmato done and quick No time to waste let’s go.
Can we all just a second and appreciate how good the OST is?
I've hated it so much.
Sick ost!
@@waltercomunello121 me too. Doesn't sound like squaresoft FF
@@rober4 lmao what, how is this not squaresoft music when the game came out when it was still called squaresoft and also is by a composer who has worked with the series for 20 years
@@credenzamostro That's precisely my point. In spite of being Squaresoft's, doesn't sound like it is
Ok for those wondering about the lore of Penance I think the 2 likely answers to what it is are:
. Either a culmination of souls of high summoners/guardians from a variety of different fights with sin at the calm lands that were never sent, forever roaming in the scar
.High Summoner Godof’s final aeon, who was responsible for the scar in the calm lands 400 years prior to ffx
I think the dark aeons are related as the cult of yu yevon realised the power of penance rivalled Sin/yu yevon, so the dark aeons were yu yevon’s method of fragmenting/containing that power
Penance’s design however looks a lot like a machina, so there is a theory that al bhed were able to make a machina that was powered by the souls of the dead. But I mean yu yevon also used machina in the temple of bevelle so it could maybe be correlated to yu yevon too. Would explain why you can hear the yu yevon musical motif in the penance OST. Whatever the real answer is, Ffx don’t really do a good job on explaining this big floaty boi.
nice comment good ideas.
I'd say the final aeon theory holds up with how strong penance is, although yu yevon would have merged with godofs final aeon one would think is. And the cult theory considering the DAs have to be killed just have the fucker show up, minus yu yevon as yu yevon would be the amoeba you find him as in Godofs day. Add the fact a good few of the dark aeons are found near their temples like valefor for example. And maybe seymour knew of them as Dark Ifrit was found where home was and maybe he was used by the guado to ransack it otherwise its a bit random he's just there chilling and waiting. Also, there's precedent for final aeons to act independently as jecht and dark ifrit, bahamut and anima acted independently with no summoner. Makes you wish penance had more references in game. I had the theory the dark aeons were born from penance the same way ultima was from omega as the colour palettes kind of match up and penance was almost like a dark final aeon
I once read the official wikia about Penance. Penance isn't a a Dark Aeon or anything related to an Aeon. It's not an unsent either. The wikia explain that Penance is the ultimate machina created by Bevelle on its final attempt to stop Yuna and her guardians.
Strongest boss in FFX but has no officialized lore. Sad times truly.
Even FFXII has at least a short lore description of every enemy in the bestiary.
It may not look that impressive now but imagine doing this back in 2004 after buying the PAL version of the game off eBay and all the ins and outs and what and where to grind things werent publically available all over the Internet like it is now. Everything you knew was word of mouth from friends or from a GameFAQS text guide with the ASCII art. You were left to figure it out on your own for the most part. Hell back then I only knew about the celestial weapons because my cousin knew about it from one of his friends who knew about it because of a pen pal from Japan. Its trivial now but getting to this point back in the games primetime was legendary.
That's a lot of passing of information 😂
@@iris089 That's normal. That's how it was done back in the day minus the pen pal stuff. Games like this were impossible unless you knew a nerd who did it all.
@@60wwediva When I was a kid, the only way to know a Fatality move in Mortal Kombat 2 is to ask a friend from his friends OR to buy a game magazine. But this one took it to the next level to have a penpal from Japan.
Looks fine to me and it’s 4K on my Xbox one X(Well whenever I get here).
That X-Potion after the final blow was nothing but "Insult to Injury!"...LOL! XD
Your divine punishment for maxing out the sphere grid, getting the best gear, and dealing all of the damage is a fourty minute fight where nothing interesting happens. I sure hope that was the meta commentary the developers were going for. Because that sure is irony LOL.
Of course, hella impressive. Such dedication and planning that goes into this fight.
I just have to say with all the "What's the point?" and "Why would you waste your time for such a repetitive fight" and yadda yadda yadda... I'm not sure those kind of commenters will really understand the feeling of getting a true full completion of a game that seriously defined many of our childhoods (or even adulthoods for that matter.) This game has a very special place in many of our hearts. And knowing you've truly mastered it? THAT holds more satisfaction than any Platinum Trophy could possibly dare to try. (Although that Trophy is a HELL of a bragging right too... ;D)
I have 4 words my friend... "Well done and congratulations."
Dillon Parker it's for the platinum trophy
To add to that, it shows determination and concentration. You know you're able to apply yourself in whatever you find important.
In my case once I get to penance again its gonna take a weeaboo, 1 gil and a dream.
Well, even a slight mistake would have his party literally obliterated. People talking this nonsense have no idea of how powerful penance really is.
the fight lacks all tension though... once the shields gone, he cant kill you unless you let him.
This fight was so good, its basically an orchestrated performance, one mistake and you are paying the price or just recovering for the rest of the battle!
To defeat Penance without Zanmato is easy . No need of ribbon, bhpl is never needed. No summon is needed . Strategy for penance is easy but very specific formula... All three characters must have 255 strength 255 defense 255 agility with luck at least 100. Preferably wakka tidus and rikku, but Auron or Yuna is OK .All three must equip fully powered celestial weapon. All three must wear Shaman Armor with following:
Auto haste
Auto protect
Auto potion (sell all potions except X Potions at least 90+ in stock)
Defense +20%
In beginning of battle have Rikku Mix ultra nul all (cheer x5). Hit and kill the arms one by one preferably with quick hit ability , then the main body when arms are gone, defeat the arm prior to it's turn. The arms must never get a turn. No character need to die in entire battle. When penance hit you obliteration all party auto heal with auto potion ability. When penance hit you with immolation in second form immediately dispel that character. Penance can be defeated with this method in around 40-45 minutes in PS2
You can set overdrive mode to Comrade if you use overdrive of wakka or anyone to hasten overdrives.
Beating this guy for the first time without Zanmato felt great. And we get a great soundtrack rather than the regular boss music.
37 minutes, of everyone doing the maximum potential for damage, using quick hit to make every single hit with reduced reaction times, constant haste for speed, auto potions healing with nothing by x-potions, and maximum (im)possible stats to not die in every single turn.
Not saying this boss is impossible. But would need way to much time for any sane person to farm for materials/exp to do this fight legitimately. Great video though!
Literally the only thing you need in this battle is:
Tidus, Wakka, Rikku all with fully powered Celestial Weapon.
255 str, 255 def, around 230 spd. 110 luk,
armor:
def 20%, auto haste, auto potion, auto protect.
item: 99 x-potion, mix for hot spurs, eccentrick and ultra nullall.
All can be farmed within a day.
i was thinking the same lol, theres faaar more challenging things in videogames then preparations for this
Joseph Villarreal im at 150 hrs of gameplay and I still dont want to quit yet. The game is too fun.
This boss is actually super easy. Dark Magus Sisters is probably the hardest fight as it's at a perfect point where you arenn't that powerful yet. At this point you've done everything. This isn't even an efficient way of killing Penance, you can do it in half the time easily.
Christos Soteriou Hell no!! I beat Dark Magus Sister while fighting against all 3 of them. Penance is way harder! what sucks is his second form honestly. The First one is really easy... but the second form is a pain in the ass.
Cid did one hell of a job creating this masterpiece to be completely indestructible against all odds. Probably, the grandest accomplishment he has ever done in any Final Fantasy game. Praise the Sun!
Dark Souls reference. I love it. Praise the sun!
Praaaaise the message!
Lol The sun. Dark Souls.
I found quite a few weapons referencing Cid and the Highwind from FF7.. like 'Highwind' lol a Kimahri spear. I think it's Triple Overdrive? I forgot I didn't use it.
Love how the percussion starts as the battle begins. Epic.
I don't know why some people insist that anything above 170 agility is completely useless. I saw someone else's video of this fight with his agility a little above 170, and he was forced to use overdrives to destroy the arms before they could get turns at the beginning of the fight. I want to be able to do that without overdrives, and according to this video, having 255 agility DOES make a difference.
I honestly have to say. YOU ARE AWESMOE AT THIS! Im a fan.
Honestly, I kind of felt cheated when I beat Penance, since it required so much time & effort to unlock the Celestial Weapons, capture all those fiends for the Monster Arena so you can grind out the necessary stats, and then hunt down and defeat the Dark Aeons...and yet the reward is minimal.
Dude by that point, what else is there to get? You are maxed out in literally everything and you just defeated the strongest creature in the game. What is the point of getting stronger if you can conquer everything? Tbh i wish there was like a “ignore magic defense” type of item to make lulu a lot more better with the magic stuff because by the late game, magics are incredibly useless. For me if there’d be an ultimate reward after beating penance, that would be it.
Thank you so much on defeating Penance that guy is tough as he was only on the international and HD Remaster releases as does the Dark Aeons.
Man this boss took a lot out of me. The sheer amount of concentration to not F up your rotation was exhilarating. Took me like 4 or 5 tries within a span of 3 hours to beat him. Wish I recorded the entire match. I only was able to recover like 15 mins which is uploaded.
In all these years of interviews and conventions has no one ever asked any of the FFX team what Penance is?
Probably a final aeon that got loose ? 🤣
Its the Final Summoning of the summoner that caused that giant chasm in the Calm Lands when he fought Sin.
@@nogunk147 That does make sense as a theory. Strange that there’s zero textual reference to it in the game. No one even comments like “What is this?” it just happens.
Well if you watch the cut scene when penance appears. He comes up from the chasm I'm speaking of. He's summoned and appears. Easy to speculate that he is most likely the final summoning of the summoner that caused that chasm
"Penance" = "payment for one's sins". You (your party) comited the ultimate act of hubris/sin: killing the (dark) Aeons (which would be something akin to killing Olympic Gods, in Greek mythology, for example), so Penance is supposed to be your "Ten Batsu" ("Divine Punishment" - written in his body) for it (the hubris of breaking the "natural order" of the cosmos: human beings killing/defeating divine creatures: inferior-order beings (humans) killing superior-order beings (the Aeons) ). Supposedly, Yevon, who is a demiurgic figure in FFX's Universe, is the one summoning it.
at least that deserve a final cinematic
Dude, I didn't have the patience for the weapons in ff7, theres no way I'd do this battle
The weapons in ff7 are a fraction of the time compared to this
Yeah this boss is luck dependent just like Ozma.
Ff7 was cakework compared to this. Aside from Ruby Weapon.
@@dildonicplague Ruby Weapon is an incredibly easy boss if you have W-Summon and three Mime materia (or W-Summon, a KOTR summon with "MP Absorb" linked, and two Mime materia). Start off with two dead party members, start off by reviving them, and then W-Summon Hades (which will inflict Stop) and then KOTR. He will be unable to cast Ultima and you can either Mime this continually or risk W-Summoning KOTR for a few turns before switching back to Hades/KOTR. As long as you can get into that rhythm, Ruby is simple. I had more issues With Emerald, personally.
@@stephenpollard7211 yeah i know the trick but holy shit...the time is what im talking about.
Was that last potion really necessary Wakka? Afraid he might not be fully dead?
I was like "dude the fight has already ended, chill out" XD
I just finished my fight and the same thing happened, haha. I killed him with a counter and then Tidus auto-potioned just in case, lol
Why he do that the battle is already wakka! For God sake man!
wakka: "its my post drink nigga, shit was tough tho"
Just in case, ya?
Nice work, this was the strategy I used, stuffed up a few times lol but thankfully got it done in the end :)
Slow and steady gets the Platinum. Thanks for these strats because after getting hit Judgement Day, I wanted to be sure of what I can do. I had no idea I was struck with Armor/Mental break either during that second phase attack either. I just beat him though and it probably took about as long as you did but that's alright because it got me another Platinum for my collection. Again, thanks for showing off how you did it without Zanmato no matter how tedious it was :)
Amazing dude, as someone who gave up around Dark Ixion around your upload date because I realized I wouldn't get far without the other Sphere Grid , this was amazing to watch, and it shows you prepared a lot for this battle. Well done
which sphere grid did u use
@@qc6381 i used the standard sphere grid to see how far i got. when i get the chance to play again I'll make sure to prepare properly haha
@@maretama so the other sphere grid is better for fights like this
Yeah zanmato don't work with Ixion and yojimbo since you have to face them multiple times
The sphere grid is cake once you complete the arena yeah that takes a while and the don tonberry ap trick. The species and area conquests creations drop spheres and are pretty easy.
Interesting thing is there are words "ten batsu" written on his body cast with Spira language which translates in to "Divine punishment" from Japanese.
That's why he/she/it is "Penance" (payment for one's sins). You (your party) commited the ultimate Hubris of killing the (dark) Aeons (which is what makes him appear in the first place), so Penance is supposed to be your "Ten Batsu" (Divine Punishment) for it (the ultimate sin of Hubris).
@@oohlala5394 And its Japanese name is "Der Richter" (well, Dea Rihitaa) which is German for "The Judge."
Penance has 12,000,000 HP. Divide that by the damage cap, 99,999, and you get ~120. That's the number of max-damage hits you need to kill him. Divide that by 3, and you get ~40. That's the average number of hits each party member needs to dish out to destroy Penance. That wouldn't be so bad, except that you've got both his overpowered attacks and his arms that you have to keep under control, lest Penance cast Judgement Day.
Funny thing is Penance isn't even the hardest battle in FF-X. Once you already know the pattern, it's easy. The hard part is leveling up and farming lmao
yes
Yeah this bastard requires a choreographed dance of, eliminate the arms then let one lone person do the attacks to the core. Then dispel the immolation. at 99,999 this bastard takes 120 hits minimum to take down. I did it myself but took almost 45 minutes. It's a long sit.
+spike007980 Oh yeah, absolutely no overdrive limit breaks unless it's rikkus :x
Hitting around 120 times is nothing when you fought Yiazmat from FFXII once :D Anyway, i really enjoyed the fight against Penance back then. Funny thing that HE was the main reason to buy my first PS2 lol
Yiazmat was too crazy too
I don't care what anyone else says. This may have been a long repetitive fight and yeah you could've ended it one hit with zanmato but you put in the effort and earned that win. Congratulations and I hope you keep up the good work.
Exactly after spending awhile doing this and finally beating him it is so much more fulfilling than just zanmatoing him. I felt so overjoyed when he finally died lol mostly because all the other bosses weren't challenging.
@@mazk6239 a win is a win but a win earned is always better than a free win
@@randomrobin7712 I agree 100%
Good one Mikagami. Trick in this fight is to keep an eye out on the right counter and not wait for 'bosses' turn with 'both arms'. Always take out one arm and in between get some hits onto his body while also keeping in mind the other hand. Normally I think around 6 times per arm at 99,999. I had HP break limit on the characters and of course carried 99 of those mega potions, 3 stars etc, Took around 40 minutes to beat him. Quick hit is the way to go and instead of Ribbon, add Defense in the last slot.
Six hits on each arm and in between hit the body🙌🔥😎
I'll save you 35 minutes:
boss occasionally attacks
lots of quick hits and x-potions
you're welcome.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
Step 5: MASSIVE Bragging rights
Never even knew this beast existed!!!
And people are actually destroying it!
Looks like a pain in the ass
it wasn't available in the original release of FFX
The hell are you saying, Advocake?
Gypruzz Caccamo
exactly what I said. The original release of FFX didn't have penance or the dark Aeons. it took the international releases (which came half a year later, and not in the US) to add these guys in, and I think a few years after that when they released it again as 'ffx- greatest hits' that they had the US version (in terms of spelling and everything) to finally have the dark aeons and penance.
If the OP didn't know these guys were available, he may have had the original US release.
For me personally. this was the hardest boss I've ever played (I beat Nenja Gaiden Black on master ninja difficulty) and I have never been able to beat this bastard.
pain in the @$$
Yeah, the PAL version had this but not the NTSC version. Despite having the PAL version, I ended up stumbling upon penance online since I never managed to beat the Dark Aeons.
FFX : Where the mini games are harder than the "superbosses" itself
Sin was never meant to be a superboss. If people souls can turn into sin then sin power and destruction depends on who is controlling it. If Tidus father wasn't sin and someone else was, Spira would have been nuked during Kilika
Be for real.
Ive come to the conclusion that Penace is a Giant Machina Awakend
What about the pyreflies after he dies?
He’s the unsent fiend of the leader of Bevelle. The same Bevelle that destroyed Zanarkand, Yevon was able to survive to this era as Yu Yevon without being unsent thanks to Sin but not Bevelle Leader so he is forever tied to Machina design as a fiend. Penance is the opposite of Yu Yevon, while Yu Yevon depended on Aeons and human sacrifices for Sin and is not a dangerous boss to kill alone, Penance didn’t need any of that. The Bevelle leader relied on Machina though, so his fiend form will forever be that as a sick twisted joke until he is sent by the party of FFX
@@KRiS-se6gq ow
The platinum trophy difficulty says 7/10 and you need around 80 hours.
I think the owner of the page have never played this game.
Took me 151 hours to platinum this game. However, I wouldn’t say it was a “hard” trophy, it just requires sooooooo much patience.
I fully maxed out my characters before hunting down any of the dark aeons (aside from Valefor but he was a joke) and it was a breeze. Only died once to Anima, Bahamut, and Dark Yojimbo.
Since it had to be done for the platinum anyway, I figured id get it out of the way first and boy am I glad I did.
Defeating the dark aeons/Penance without fully maxing out the characters is pointless. You would be making the fights “harder” for no reason other than suffering hahaha
unless you pay that mercenary GF to kill him in one hit
It might be possible to get it so fast... If it's not your first playthrough, if you just fill the rest of the empty nodes and not erase the +1/2 /3 ones to replace them with +4 and if you use Yojimbo for the superbosses then... naaah... 80 hours still feels too tight...
80 hours
*weeze*
Even if the battle itself isn't that hard with the right setup, getting this far is a pretty monumental challenge in and of itself. For starters, you need the right armor, which would take quite some time to farm the materials for. Then there's the Celestial weapons, which are bound to take a while even if you don't bother to get all of them. Then you need to get your stats high enough to even stand a fighting chance, and while there is a way to level up incredibly fast, you need to farm more materials in order to do so, and may even need to farm extra spheres. Not to mention the Dark Aeons that need to be defeated as a prerequisite. So yeah, though you could argue that all of this isn't that hard, you still have to do pretty much everything else there is to do in the game before you can even attempt the fight. So I'd say it still ranks as one of the hardest trophies in the game to get, if not THE hardest
the real final boss XD
Did You Mean Supreme Extreme Real Final Boss XD
You could fight Penance underwater and still go by this strategy
good job on getting that platinum trophy, god knows I'm never gonna get that.
Wow, literally nothing happens when you beat the greatest challenge in the game? Not even a “we did it” or something? Hilarious that it drops armor and spheres when you couldn’t possibly get any stronger.
Yeah that's why I quit and was glad I actually forgot to get Anima. I would have been pissed to beat that thing and nothing happens. No cut scene, no secret scene or Zanarkand spotlight for Tidus. Not something rare that be such a great addition, nothing. Whoever developed FFX and thought about this is a major cunt. It's such a tideous grind heavy game that sucks so.many hours out of your life it's a shit storm. It's not fun at all and are just for adults who love the strategy challenge.
Pro tip: when Penance is in his 2nd form, never let both arms coexist together because that triggers judgement day.
Is it my imagination or this boss looks like a pizza cutter?
He's a god.
He's a pizza cutter dude with the ability to fire a party-wiping, swirling ball of armageddon.
Your imagination
@TouchyBanana I never really thought about that
.I see it as the female reproductive system.😂
Never knew about his monster..Please just Send me to the Farplane now I am not worthy
I'll be honest. I could never beat this dude in a 1,000 years!
I think ffx is one of the best game and for me it's definitely one of my all time favs. However i dont like the fact that when you get that high on stats, black magic is useless as well most of the abilities. It's only quick hit and some mixes and some auto-potions etc. Why not move magic further with spells like blizzaja or multi-blizzaja or combinations like ice barrage (aqua, birth by sleep).
They were probably too busy worrying about boring, tedious side quests and excessive grinding to worry about more interesting and elaborate skills and move sets haha
Black magic fine
You need Doublecast Ultima on Jumbo Flan and Neslug when it go into shell 😂
Exactly.. became a dead boring fight. Multi hit magic with break damage would have made it more fun. Anything just not quick hits.. boooring
this is my ultimate life goal: finish FFX
you meant COMPLETE, right?
LET THE QUICK HITS PREVAIL!!!
Just watched a list of FF Super Bosses that placed Penance at #1.
I can't imagine the insane amount of grinding it would require to get your characters to a point where you even have a chance at defeating Penance...
...but the fact that the game even allows you grow your characters to such strength that it's possible to defeat this boss a with a relatively simple strategy kinda takes away from the boss' difficulty. And once you reach that point, the fight itself isn't particularly interesting. The Boss just repeats the same attack, and every time you're hit you auto-restores back to full strength and continue.
I feel like Penance isn't a difficult super boss, it's just a matter if you've spent enough time maxing out your characters. It's easily the strongest enemy in the game, and definitely the final test of strength a player can face in FFX, but from a design perspective, Penance isn't a particularly interesting boss.
I'm studying to become a game designer, and the FF games have been a huge source of inspiration for me, so that's why I'm analyzing this so in-depth.
I feel a more interesting boss would have more variability and do more things the player would have to react to and manage. Of course that all depends on the game also not allowing the characters to grow in strength to the point where they're immune to all threats and can auto-recover from all harm. Kinda removes the challenge if you can heal back to full strength every time you get hit and permanently have all the best buffs active at all times.
But I still respect the amount of time it must have taken to reach the point where you're able to reach this level of power.
Dahxelb absolute virtue is harder
This is why I rate ozma from ff9 higher. It adapts and can wipe you easily. Far more fun than this grind fest
looks like he skipped leg day...
seeing this made me want to go back though the game and grind again but getting though all those cutscenes......might have to make a raincheck
Good video m8 I’ve not got my luck or magic to 255 yet but every thing else is lol. With every character.
To defeat Penance without Zanmato is easy . No need of ribbon, bhpl is never needed. No summon is needed . Strategy for penance is easy but very specific formula... All three characters must have 255 strength 255 defense 255 agility with luck at least 100. Preferably wakka tidus and rikku, but Auron or Yuna is OK .All three must equip fully powered celestial weapon. All three must wear Shaman Armor with following:
Auto haste
Auto protect
Auto potion (sell all potions except X Potions at least 90+ in stock)
Defense +20%
In beginning of battle have Rikku Mix ultra nul all (cheer x5). Hit and kill the arms one by one preferably with quick hit ability , then the main body when arms are gone, defeat the arm prior to it's turn. The arms must never get a turn. No character need to die in entire battle. When penance hit you obliteration all party auto heal with auto potion ability. When penance hit you with immolation in second form immediately dispel that character. Penance can be defeated with this method in around 40-45 minutes in PS2
You can set overdrive mode to Comrade if you use overdrive of wakka or anyone to hasten overdrives.
As someone who loves ffx from the day it came out all those years ago and beaten this game many many times, I knew of the dark Aeons and stopped after the first two or three on several play throughs, I had no idea this boss existed until today. Now I want to start a new game again and get to this point
Same but the graphics are so bad by todays standards I get bored 😭
@@Rosehybride remastered version looks better tho, i would like to achieve everythin i didnt know about, but its way too time consuming.
@@Rosehybride why would graphics define the fun a game provides?
@@muckus_the_macka7340 because I’ve played the game before and replaying a game Ive played before after being spoiled with modern graphics is difficult for me lol. I’m hoping they come out with x-3 someday but it’s probably too late.
@@Rosehybride yeah. There is this audio cutscene called "FFX -Will-" that's clearly a teaser for ffx3 but I guess they scrapped it
Love watching a 37 minute video of all 3 characters Quick Hitting
amazing final fantasy!!!!! very very funny to play and beautuful story!!!!
I’m more impressed you did the lightning dodges to get the platinum trophy. Screw those.
They're actually really easy if you use the crater exploit. You can force the lightning to strike and then timing the dodges is really easy. I was able to do 223 consecutive in less than an hour total of trying.
217 for me
Good lord! I can only think when this was all over you just said "THANK GOD! NO MORE FFX EVER AGAIN!"
No sane person has uttered those words in the history of never ever.
So exciting!
Looks like Yojimbo is gonna be the way to go if I ever get there
I'm working my way towards this fight, but god damn I've got a lot of work to do. Farm spheres, capture monsters, farm items to make the best armour & then I have to beat Dark Yojimbo like 5 times I believe :(
im 27 and i want to take a work sabbatical (1 year) just to properly finish this game
Chiko Tembo I'm also 27 & I pretty much had to take time out of my life just to properly finish this lol
Now it's done & I feel proud, so go for it man :)
loooool
What if I told you.. you can actually leave the fight?
Why no Attack Reels? Does the setback really make you lose that much DPS?
loved this boss, every turn counts!!!
I reached the same spot after 85 hours with Tidus, Yuna and Rikku with all eight stats at 255 (yes, 255 luck on all 3 of them because it looks pretty).
255 ? HOW ????
imagine the resources and time it took to even attempt this fight
Wow! 36 minutes to beat this boss?? Talk about hard work
got the perseverance trophy randomly in calm lands trying to max my compatibility with yojimbo due to a glitch that still exists. so i just yojimbo-ed nemesis and got plat, never touched the game again.
I never got to pennace I kept dying by the dark aeons alone and not having all the aeons etc X-x
Why didn't you use attack reels and slice and dice?
Defeated this guy today, grueling battle, but in the end very rewarding.
I think penance is gandofs final aeon. If you look it appears out of gandofs scar of the calm lands and even looks like gandof in a way of you look at his statues at the temple even tho gandof isn’t the faith. I think it’s a final aeon because it’s the there right size and everything plus as I say it appears out of the scar and looks like gandof too.
To defeat Penance without Zanmato is easy . No need of ribbon, bhpl is never needed. No summon is needed . Strategy for penance is easy but very specific formula... All three characters must have 255 strength 255 defense 255 agility with luck at least 100. Preferably wakka tidus and rikku, but Auron or Yuna is OK .All three must equip fully powered celestial weapon. All three must wear Shaman Armor with following:
Auto haste
Auto protect
Auto potion (sell all potions except X Potions at least 90+ in stock)
Defense +20%
In beginning of battle have Rikku Mix ultra nul all (cheer x5). Hit and kill the arms one by one preferably with quick hit ability , then the main body when arms are gone, defeat the arm prior to it's turn. The arms must never get a turn. No character need to die in entire battle. When penance hit you obliteration all party auto heal with auto potion ability. When penance hit you with immolation in second form immediately dispel that character. Penance can be defeated with this method in around 40-45 minutes in PS2
You can set overdrive mode to Comrade if you use overdrive of wakka or anyone to hasten overdrives.
once read the official wikia about Penance. Penance isn't a a Dark Aeon or anything related to an Aeon. It's not an unsent either. The wikia explain that Penance is the ultimate machina created by Bevelle on its final attempt to stop Yuna and her guardians.
Just win the fight used your guide thanks 👍👍👍
One hour play time
So, I’m having a lot of trouble getting Tidus’ celestial weapon -his Sigil- and I know using him in this fight without it isn’t great because no max damage. Would Auron or Yuna be a sufficient replacement with their celestial and max stats?
As long as they're at max stats, then yes, they should be hitting at 99999 damage. However, Tidus does have a counter ability that kicks in if he's hit with Immolation that can speed up the damage.
just about finished with the platinum on this game. still need the last dark aeons and penance and finishing up the grid in all toons. what should i go for in luck on this boss. all my stats are 255 except for luck and mp.
I hate how the overdrives are nerfed.
What was your overdrive set to if you don't mind me asking fellow warrior
After applying the UltraNullAll is just better to use Auron as it counters Penance attacks in the second half of the battle so you save some minutes. Boring battle anyway just did it because in my old PS2 I used zanmato to beat it and I felt I had to beat it legitely this time!
Oh man you have some insane perseverance, after 10 mins of fighting penance I literally just said fuck it and summoned Yojimbo and gave him all the gold I had. Like if he didn't Zanmato after that, I would have probably thrown the controller
Yea... ground this game to oblivion as a kid but I never beat this guy. I messed up on my armor buffs and was not in the mood for grinding the monster arena all over again, esp. after 100hrs+ into the game. It's crazy how addictive old FF games were. Maybe someday I'll pick it up again and do it right this time, who knows :)
trust me bro, I first played this when I was about 10 years old and I never got to this point in the game, its only after they made the HD remake for the ps4 that I decided to give it another shot and honestly these JRPG games are so addictive. Like as a true fan of JRPG's I cannot stop until I've eaten every single secret boss there is.
I never made it this far in the game. Honestly I normally can’t even get most characters last weapon. I like this final fantasy but idk the end grind always kill me drive for perfection. Probably the only one I never had a perfect 100% complete game.
I got a question. How do you make it where Quick hit is the 1st skill that comes up with you hit skills?
You can find this on your options. There where you also can't find things like shortened summon and search for something like remember cursor or so.
What a cool name, i didn't know. In the german version he's called "the richter" meaning "the judge"
With Overdrives Tidus and Wakka time in this battle would not be reduced?
I thought about doing this, like REALLY farming, and I guess its rewarding but a fight like this seems dull. I like barely surviving, having your characters grit out, getting lucky. no better feeling than beating a boss with a flaw party. major props for whoever can max their characters though.
Hmmmm....well the Dark aeons feel a lot like it. especially when you defeat Dark Anima with maxed stats. without HP limit and Ribbon because mega-graviton is fatal! xD
also for me penance was pretty tough for some reason i messed up with the arms...you need to constantly check that at least one is down...yet you cant kill them in the order in which the other arm respawns immediately after killing the first one or youll be stuck in a loop making you barely getting sny hits in at penance....first time i beated him took me like 1 hr and 10 mins
How much defense and magic defense do you need to get Penance so "little" (9000 damage is little for Penance's standards) damage on you?
And is Luck useful to have here?
would shell work to lessen the damage from that obliteration attack, or is that physical based and not magical?
Physical based.
Okay I could be remembering wrong but I thought immolation cast full break on you. How are your characters not getting one shot by immolation after it's been done once to them?
Hello, can I ask so this is possible to max all stats to 255 but HP unable to reach 99,999? Correct?
Why isnt he using Wakka's overdrive? I did that (long time ago). Killed the arms with quick hit and used the overdrive on the body. Had all stats maxed. Is it faster this way?
Watching this made me feel nervous.
CID said earlier in game the airship wasn’t as stable as it looked. Intbink after all it’s been through and this fight proved it’s tougher then he thinks
The fact that you grinded luck to 255 is impressive. Shit takes for ever
Not as bad as farming magic to 255 that flan superboss was the worst enemy in the game. Took like 20 minutes to kill each attempt. Earth Eater at least goes down fairly quickly. I figured I'd skip over maxing out magic since its an irrelevant stat once you get enough strength
@@nogunk147 I'd argue maxing luck takes longer still, since you also have to tediously farm the spheres that actually activate your luck nodes. I don't quite remember how long the flan took to kill relative to earth eater, but earth eater is just the addendum to that stupid gel. That one wasn't quick to kill either, its death animation taking ages to complete.
@@nogunk147 Oh, and it's even worse. You need those luck-activating spheres for each character whose luck you max separately. So I am sure now, without a doubt, that luck is the most tedious stat to max.
@@AndreasFleissnerbribing Maelspike from Mt Gazaget 200k gils to get 1 Attribute Sphere can be use to activates Luck Sphere.
I have a question why do you keep dispelling Rikku right now I’m trying to get my characters stats up and I’m working on luck right now and how did you get Wakas and Titus celestial weapon I’m having a hard time getting theirs
You made that far just within 130 hours jesus
DAMN THIS IS NOT THIS PERSON'S FIRST TIME FIGHTING THIS DAMNED THING-
Got auto-protect,still got 99999 damage. sick stats. :3
Celestial weapons ignore all defense, including Protect spells