Russian mains are gonna be in heaven when the T-80BVM (Obr. 2023) with 25km reverse speed will be added. And we got the Challenger 3 as well as the 2S28, so the T-14 coming to the game in 2-3 years is legitimately not that farfetched.
We basically already have the Challenger 3 and I wouldn't be surprised if the T-14 comes this year, given that the Russian tech tree is already at the T-90M and is running out of notable MBTs to add, besides minor variants and prototypes. Also a good chance of seeing some of the T-14 prototypes with the 152mm gun.
Im still wondering why they did not add the 3BM59 for the T-90M this would actually be quite cool, but since its not there the most people switched back to the BVM by now.
I will say it... the russian mbt transmissions are the singular most contributor to subpar ussr winrates in current top tier. The nato mbt spall liners eating rods doesnt help either.
@bolshevik1017 But they were in turn hindered (and still are) by the fact that the T90 and most other russian tanks are using an engine from the 1930s.
@@bismarckbismarck6352 i mean the british challangers are also using a engine from the 1920s lol a engine being old doesn't mean anything they have been upgraded a lot over decades and the horsepower has been doubled or tripled which is not an easy thing to do
@@bismarckbismarck6352if you wanna make an argument that theyr engine is from the 30s then i might as well say the challenger 3 is using a 1918 engine cuz that one is based on the Condor engine from 1918/19 while the russian engine has its orihinall roots in the 30s yes they have been heavilly upgraded same as the Condor.
@wetnoodle9689 Russian tanks and technology in general is 50 years behind the west. The "high tech" stuff the Ukrainians have been getting is so old we're giving it away for free.
@@user-jc2in3cp3g the mango was used by soviets and all soviet republics and ukraine is still using it, 3Bm60 is not meant for export but its cheaper as the 3Bm59, and better for mass production.
I would argue this is one of the best tanks in the game tbh. In my Leo2A7 the issue facing this tank is that if you have any bit of range. The chance for this tank to avoid damage is HUGE! 1mm left right of move of turret and you hit cheek ERA and no damage. You can only shoot at the side turret, if the range is a bit then no damage. You hit the side and direct into the ammo via ERA you have a higher chance than other tanks to yellow the ammo. Aka no practical damage. 11 or 3 clock at range the track or ERA will totally protect it. Front plate ERA blocks any sabot. This with the higher chance of instant killing enemy tanks, with a few exceptions or if a very bad gunner. Means the army effect of the tank (mass noobs using it) means you have have a higher chance of just rushing in, taking a hit and killing the enemy. When several other tanks do the same. Your side is not outnumbering the few skilled players on the enemy team. A enemy team with loaders that take a huge penalty on reload if their gunner is hit. You kill the loader the reload resets. You get hit like that and no issue on the auto loader...
Say "thx" for it to community from Reddit. They want the reality where leopards got anomal survivability and they got it. By the way gaijuns secretly nerfed 3bm42 and 3om60 in terms of damage, so l guess now everyone happy.
Naw he’s definitely eating that British propaganda for breakfast mate don’t hate on a country that could wipe the floor with yours militarily. The Brits still have the USA as allies so they can get away with shouting nonsense across the channel while the USA props up all of NATO 😂
Why is the intro full of lies? Russia didn't shut down T-14 production, in-fact it's just starting. New factories (buildings) set up specifically for the T-14 are built. T-14 passed new state trials recently, because it has been redesigned many times from the 2016 models. Procurement is classified and slow due to time constraints, corruption and simply the fact that the T-14 is very expensive and complicated compared to the T-72 / T-80 tanks. There are no trained mechanics yet for large procurement to take place, because they are preoccupied with maintaining T-72/T-80s in the SVO zone. Also the logistics chain would be a nightmare if it was adopted in large numbers immediately. Small batches of about 100 vehicles yearly are the way to go. There are rumors that a new 152mm + 30mm gun Armata passed trials sometime during 2024. It's possible this one will be adopted in large numbers in the future, with the 125mm Armatas being adopted to train mechanics on this new tank. No, Russia isn't restarting T-80 production...only ramping up their modernization workshops. T-72s are refurbished and completely new ones are made in small quantities. And now for this specific part: 0:43 What a stupid thing to say. Im gonna quote EIU: ''The Russian Education system has been ranked as the 8th best in Europe and 13th best in the world.'' or ''In 2016, Bloomberg, a US-based media company, designated Russia's Higher Education as the third-best in the world.'' For Russia being such a large country with many villages and people being isolated, the education is remarkable. Certainly better than USA where children cannot find France on the world map.
@@sovietonion9542 Dude its not a Russia thing. The moment a country goes against the western world they become bad. Take India for example, India stood its ground firmly and the amount of anti India propaganda has risen dramatically.
the only way to make the t90m viable at its current br is to make it impervious to frontal damage other than the drivers port and LFP, if that isnt the case it wil continue to suck becuase it cant depend on its armor, it cant depend on its speed so it has no ability to match competition, either make it faster, or give it better frontal armor.
@@leonleeoff2216 Idk but in my experience they're just people who throw child like tantrums when they get presented with information that they dont like
yeah crew cost just fucking sucks imo like i just bought the vehicle why do i need to pay even more just to use it? i get that we need to buy and repair the tanks although repair costs can be ridiculous at times even at mid tier but crew cost is just nonsense
Dude there aren't any politics. He just states information like how the russian economy is dying rapidly and that the russian army is failing, which it really is
I see a pattern in the TH-cam comments here, the accounts are first name and last name and then a number and saying something not related to War thunder. You're a bot aren't you lmao
The 2017 model has around 4 km/h, but the later ones are significantly faster. I guess Gaijin will add a 2022 model with more reverse speed for 410k RP
Man is coping hard with the intro How's the UK economy doing again? not so well. The T-14 is also not shelved they have stated that they are not mass producing the tank at the moment so it will not be sent to Ukraine though that is different to completely cancelled edit: nevermind he is coping through the whole video. Dude is not happy with that T-72B3 clapping that Abrams from 6km away in Ukraine using it's gun launched ATGM
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 In turned out that entire thing was a myth I think red effect has covered it. It took way less hits and it was hit by old models like the RPG-2 with the driver still getting his feet blown off
Appreciate the review of the tank but the unnecessary cheap sprinkles of your political opinions regarding a war where hundreds of thousands have already died over nothing can be avoided. Not sure why you felt it necessary to include that but good video nonetheless.
You should stick exclusively to War Thunder content and keep doing the reviews objectively. We're not interested in your brainwashed mainstream media induced xenophobia. It's just dumb and you're sadly discrediting yourself with it, which is sad, because you've worked hard to build a good reputation; I for one always checked your channel for well-made reviews.
i would advise you to limit you geopolitical opinions and focus on what you actually know competently which is gameplay, otherwise your content becomes comical with enough time as reality reveals more and more of the truth.
maybe keep politics out of a game review vid, because so far, Russia is doing alot better then most of us western countrys. and you as a brit, are one of the reasons why there are not peace in Ukraine.
It’s worth it😂😂.It is a great addition to the Soviet Tech tree and to be fair it’s a decent vehicle better than its predecessors small improvements make an already deadly platform even more so.
@@Shotgunman5 i mean it's not worth to go nuts on the grind to get it as it does mot offer anything new and fresh, so in dis sense i dont find it worth it. it is worth to go and grind like hell new strv or the new leo, which i find much better at everything. to have the t90m in the lineup is obviously better dan not to have it.
Russian mains are gonna be in heaven when the T-80BVM (Obr. 2023) with 25km reverse speed will be added.
And we got the Challenger 3 as well as the 2S28, so the T-14 coming to the game in 2-3 years is legitimately not that farfetched.
We basically already have the Challenger 3 and I wouldn't be surprised if the T-14 comes this year, given that the Russian tech tree is already at the T-90M and is running out of notable MBTs to add, besides minor variants and prototypes. Also a good chance of seeing some of the T-14 prototypes with the 152mm gun.
Aged like milk XD now theres the t80 with 152 the 292 XD@bolshevik1017
Im still wondering why they did not add the 3BM59 for the T-90M this would actually be quite cool, but since its not there the most people switched back to the BVM by now.
Did… did you say 25kph reverse speed?!?!?!?!?!?
I will say it... the russian mbt transmissions are the singular most contributor to subpar ussr winrates in current top tier. The nato mbt spall liners eating rods doesnt help either.
@bolshevik1017 But they were in turn hindered (and still are) by the fact that the T90 and most other russian tanks are using an engine from the 1930s.
@@bismarckbismarck6352 i mean the british challangers are also using a engine from the 1920s lol a engine being old doesn't mean anything they have been upgraded a lot over decades and the horsepower has been doubled or tripled which is not an easy thing to do
@@bismarckbismarck6352if you wanna make an argument that theyr engine is from the 30s then i might as well say the challenger 3 is using a 1918 engine cuz that one is based on the Condor engine from 1918/19 while the russian engine has its orihinall roots in the 30s yes they have been heavilly upgraded same as the Condor.
@@bismarckbismarck6352imagine getting brainwashed by lazerpxdo🤢🤢
@wetnoodle9689 Russian tanks and technology in general is 50 years behind the west. The "high tech" stuff the Ukrainians have been getting is so old we're giving it away for free.
The BVM actually has 3rd gen gunner thermals
400 000 RP for a top tier T72 is a joke... I can research 4 rank 4 tanks at the same time. Also the top tier is sweaty bunch of prem/Heli demons
Pretty much every abrams or idk, "EVERY SINGLE TOP TIER TANK"
everyone that upvoted your comment has the same disability as you
Doesn’t matter if it’s Russian
The only helis that I get killed by are Ka50 or Ka52s. And planes are Su25/39. So CAS isn't really an issue.
bro is a 5.3 german main that doesnt know shit about top tier
worth grinding just for that bonus log. no one talks about how many logs russia top tier gets to the rest of the nations top tier lineups
Were did you find a russian guy to narrate the intro?
3bm46 is DU
3bm59 is not in game but DU with longer penetrator
3bm60 is tungsten with longer penetrator (which is why it doesn't fit old carousels)
3mb60 is for export tanks and 3bm59 for domestic, so it doesnt make sense to have 3bm60
@@juh2445I thought 3bm22 and 3bm42 was for export
@@user-jc2in3cp3g the mango was used by soviets and all soviet republics and ukraine is still using it, 3Bm60 is not meant for export but its cheaper as the 3Bm59, and better for mass production.
@@juh2445we don’t have info on it because its domestic and I don’t even think they made any irl
I would argue this is one of the best tanks in the game tbh.
In my Leo2A7 the issue facing this tank is that if you have any bit of range. The chance for this tank to avoid damage is HUGE!
1mm left right of move of turret and you hit cheek ERA and no damage.
You can only shoot at the side turret, if the range is a bit then no damage.
You hit the side and direct into the ammo via ERA you have a higher chance than other tanks to yellow the ammo. Aka no practical damage.
11 or 3 clock at range the track or ERA will totally protect it.
Front plate ERA blocks any sabot.
This with the higher chance of instant killing enemy tanks, with a few exceptions or if a very bad gunner.
Means the army effect of the tank (mass noobs using it) means you have have a higher chance of just rushing in, taking a hit and killing the enemy. When several other tanks do the same. Your side is not outnumbering the few skilled players on the enemy team. A enemy team with loaders that take a huge penalty on reload if their gunner is hit. You kill the loader the reload resets. You get hit like that and no issue on the auto loader...
The autoloader breaks down man. But its managable
I swear the T80BVm is better than 90M
another tank to add to your 400 other tanks in your lineup
Can you do the SEPv2. Would like to hear your take on it.
What’s there to say? It’s a shittier Sep v1
Say "thx" for it to community from Reddit.
They want the reality where leopards got anomal survivability and they got it. By the way gaijuns secretly nerfed 3bm42 and 3om60 in terms of damage, so l guess now everyone happy.
The t90 isnt very good in terms of how well-rounded it is but in small city maps it causes havoc
Is every Brit russophobic?
no, Sako is just based
Naw he’s definitely eating that British propaganda for breakfast mate don’t hate on a country that could wipe the floor with yours militarily. The Brits still have the USA as allies so they can get away with shouting nonsense across the channel while the USA props up all of NATO 😂
I don't know why, but for the last 2 years I've somehow stopped liking the Russians at all.
Maybe if Russia didn't oh idk INVADE A COUNTRY then people probably wouldn't hate them.
No the T80 is just better
8:53 "Not particular useful" Yeah.. sure buddy. The Abrams that blew up to a ATGM begs to differ
Why is the intro full of lies?
Russia didn't shut down T-14 production, in-fact it's just starting. New factories (buildings) set up specifically for the T-14 are built. T-14 passed new state trials recently, because it has been redesigned many times from the 2016 models. Procurement is classified and slow due to time constraints, corruption and simply the fact that the T-14 is very expensive and complicated compared to the T-72 / T-80 tanks. There are no trained mechanics yet for large procurement to take place, because they are preoccupied with maintaining T-72/T-80s in the SVO zone. Also the logistics chain would be a nightmare if it was adopted in large numbers immediately. Small batches of about 100 vehicles yearly are the way to go.
There are rumors that a new 152mm + 30mm gun Armata passed trials sometime during 2024. It's possible this one will be adopted in large numbers in the future, with the 125mm Armatas being adopted to train mechanics on this new tank.
No, Russia isn't restarting T-80 production...only ramping up their modernization workshops. T-72s are refurbished and completely new ones are made in small quantities.
And now for this specific part: 0:43
What a stupid thing to say. Im gonna quote EIU: ''The Russian Education system has been ranked as the 8th best in Europe and 13th best in the world.'' or ''In 2016, Bloomberg, a US-based media company, designated Russia's Higher Education as the third-best in the world.''
For Russia being such a large country with many villages and people being isolated, the education is remarkable. Certainly better than USA where children cannot find France on the world map.
Couldn't agree more, russia gets too much crap just because everyone is scared of them
Probably a victim of LazerPig propaganda
@@sovietonion9542 Dude its not a Russia thing. The moment a country goes against the western world they become bad. Take India for example, India stood its ground firmly and the amount of anti India propaganda has risen dramatically.
Its 3rd generation thermal sights for BVM, T72 B3 and T90m
Is that why they have 1990s GPS in their modern planes?
@@leonleeoff2216bro he is talking about the game and about tanks. Nobody is talking about the planes.
Yeah they’re French thermals lmao
Not even true
Ah yes, the modern modernization of the modern modernization
the only way to make the t90m viable at its current br is to make it impervious to frontal damage other than the drivers port and LFP, if that isnt the case it wil continue to suck becuase it cant depend on its armor, it cant depend on its speed so it has no ability to match competition, either make it faster, or give it better frontal armor.
I hate top tier gameplay with passion.
Altho I am pro-Russian I REALLY like your humor. Mainly because it is true lol
Yoo we got a Coherent Pro Russian i thought yall were extinct (nato bots be the same way)
@@gamingwolf6735no such thing as nato bots , just real people with brains.
@@leonleeoff2216 Idk but in my experience they're just people who throw child like tantrums when they get presented with information that they dont like
@@gamingwolf6735 I know nobody asked me to respond, but that is way too true.
@@Boris_The_Turtle Indeed nobody asked HOWEVER your response is welcomed nonetheless
8:58 i thought they were good because they purchased them from a French company
9:20 bro got trolled
New intro? I like it.
God they need to get rid of either the purchase cost or the crew cost
yeah crew cost just fucking sucks imo like i just bought the vehicle why do i need to pay even more just to use it? i get that we need to buy and repair the tanks although repair costs can be ridiculous at times even at mid tier but crew cost is just nonsense
Dude there aren't any politics. He just states information like how the russian economy is dying rapidly and that the russian army is failing, which it really is
take my like
The introduction is so untrue and just racist. But again racism does run in the british blood.
Not the british shitting their pants and applying the so called cope cage on their 75 ton shite on tracks lol
10:30 bvm has gen 3...
is that a m90 skin?
Tanks don't seem to fair well in the current environment regardless of which side is using them so mass producing an older design makes sense.
Spoken like a true npc
@@Optimusprime56241 spoken like a brain dead moron
Where did you find that t90m skin ?
Probably war thunder live
The orc bots aren't gunna like this! 😂 truth hurts the future sunflowers 🌻
I see a pattern in the TH-cam comments here, the accounts are first name and last name and then a number and saying something not related to War thunder. You're a bot aren't you lmao
callin Russians orcs while ukies have the same genetics is kinda funny lmao
"Dude Ukrainians are just like Harry Potter and his friends while the Russians are just like Voldermort!🤓"
@@obvioustroll.yetyoustillgo1634 you didnt like the first one?
BVM has gen 3
This guy is drinking too much coolaid. He obviously doesn't know what's going on with the war
Why did you have to Putin like that? It’s actually pretty anatomically goood
IRL it has -15 reverse speed and Gaijin obviously knows this since they delete all posts about this topic...shame on them
The 2017 model has around 4 km/h, but the later ones are significantly faster. I guess Gaijin will add a 2022 model with more reverse speed for 410k RP
@@fasztorta0001 hopefully so...to my knowledge there ismt any writing on what variant it is...
T90M is the best tank.
Man is coping hard with the intro
How's the UK economy doing again? not so well. The T-14 is also not shelved they have stated that they are not mass producing the tank at the moment so it will not be sent to Ukraine though that is different to completely cancelled
edit: nevermind he is coping through the whole video. Dude is not happy with that T-72B3 clapping that Abrams from 6km away in Ukraine using it's gun launched ATGM
He is also not happy that the Challenger 2, the tank that supposedly took 72 rpg hits exploded violently in a single drone hit.
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 In turned out that entire thing was a myth I think red effect has covered it. It took way less hits and it was hit by old models like the RPG-2 with the driver still getting his feet blown off
@@zeffy._440 I watched it. But these people call Red effect a Russian propagandist these days so not point in telling them.
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 true
Gaijin be like "our tanks a trash irl, but by God they're gonna be op AF in our game!"
How is imitating an accent racist lol that's how they speak bud pmsl
Appreciate the review of the tank but the unnecessary cheap sprinkles of your political opinions regarding a war where hundreds of thousands have already died over nothing can be avoided. Not sure why you felt it necessary to include that but good video nonetheless.
bro, the Tiger 1 is the best tank in the world, go educate yourself xD
You should stick exclusively to War Thunder content and keep doing the reviews objectively. We're not interested in your brainwashed mainstream media induced xenophobia. It's just dumb and you're sadly discrediting yourself with it, which is sad, because you've worked hard to build a good reputation; I for one always checked your channel for well-made reviews.
womp womp
then dont watch, you arent his boss lol
why r u putting your ukraine-russo war opinion in the video just keep it within warthunder nobody wants to hear ur politics
British copium
It’s actually against warthunder TOS as a sponsored channel… to postwar related current events.
I didnt really see any opinions of the war. He just made a joke about the news of the t90 being neutralized by a bradley
Same thing with the t-14, like I don’t see how that’s a political take
@@alexanderglasell9437the entire video was him making cheap shots at Russia in general, it’s not just him glazing the 2 Bradley’s jumping the t90
Love the russki fanboi downvotes haha.
Gonzalo lira types
i would advise you to limit you geopolitical opinions and focus on what you actually know competently which is gameplay, otherwise your content becomes comical with enough time as reality reveals more and more of the truth.
its stupide seeing youtuber having brainwashed political opinions while he is here mading videos on youtube begging for money
First
maybe keep politics out of a game review vid, because so far, Russia is doing alot better then most of us western countrys. and you as a brit, are one of the reasons why there are not peace in Ukraine.
Ukraine is losing
now i see why gaijin wanted to add spalliners to dis1 first. t90m is truly nothing new and boring, not worth it.
It’s worth it😂😂.It is a great addition to the Soviet Tech tree and to be fair it’s a decent vehicle better than its predecessors small improvements make an already deadly platform even more so.
@@Shotgunman5 👍🏾
@@Shotgunman5is that why they die to a single rpg drone to the turret irl? Or how a 1980s Bradley m2 can kill them? You silly 🌻
@@Shotgunman5 i mean it's not worth to go nuts on the grind to get it as it does mot offer anything new and fresh, so in dis sense i dont find it worth it. it is worth to go and grind like hell new strv or the new leo, which i find much better at everything. to have the t90m in the lineup is obviously better dan not to have it.
For everyone: just grind the Leo 2a7V it’s 100 times better
No it isn’t
Tbf the leopards especially the swedish ones have always been better
@@SeductiveWalrus no they haven’t, the leopard 2a5 and 2a6 were mid as soon as the bvm was introduced
@@Optimusprime56241 👎
@@SeductiveWalrus cope russki