The Hawk that first caught the pigeon was a Coopers' hawk and the second hawk was a Red tailed hawk. That was pretty crazy to see. The pigeon was in shock from the first attack and made a easy meal for the red tail. Hawks are a never ending nuisance if you fly pigeons.
Wow! This is an extremely astute observation!!! I went back and watched it in slow motion and you’re absolutely right! The red tail just stole the meal. Thank you for noticing this, I had no idea.
@@pigeonsrocHaha Thanks man! As a pigeon flyer myself I find raptors super interesting. Thought it was odd seeing a red tailed on your bird. Since red tails are way too slow to catch them mid flight. I see Cooper's do that all the time or at least attempt to. So I had to rewatch the video. Usually even a Cooper's has a hard time catching a strong, experienced pigeon mid flight. So it was easy to tell your birds are inexperienced and not used to being attacked by hawks. But that was a really cool video.
I truly enjoy your videos! I have kept pigeons since I was ten years old I’m seventy five now . I love these birds . Keep up the good work . Happy 2022 .
I’m sorry for your loss. Keep up the wonderful videos. I don’t keep pigeons but I enjoy watching you keep them with my girlfriend. She also enjoys watching your pigeons. Pigeons roc!
Tim! thank you my friend, it is much appreciated. I'm so elated to hear you and your girlfriend enjoy the videos! I will be posting regular episodes from now on. always open to any suggestions you two might have! - Dave
Love your vids and sorry for the loss of your bird. I learned as a past falconer that raptors can see weaknesses in individual birds flying in a flock. They hone in on that one bird. Once the Cooper’s hawk hit the pigeon it was an easy prey for the Red Tailed Hawk too. If it is any solace, that pigeon had something that made it the focus of the raptor. Something that we couldn’t see but the raptors can. In nature our birds are like a garden. The pigeons, doves and songbirds are the flowers. The raptors are the gardeners that weed out the sick, weak or diseased plants. The vultures run the compost pile.
Unfortunately it happens more than not and unexpectedly. Sorry 4 your loss Dave. I used to raise pigeons when I was in my 20s and hopefully again soon. Love your videos. Happy Holidays !!
Sorry to hear about the loss my man. Sadly it doesn’t get any easier. Glad most of them made it back home though for your first official training toss.
I’m sorry for your loss, Attachment seems to walk with Loss. Onetime I went to Marketplace shopping center in Groveland Mass and two birds swooped down..and then a body fell to the ground and I realized it was a hawk evicerating a pigeon.
Once you release them a few times they will get with the program, I used to loose one bird weekly to the hawk. Sorry for your lost. The hawks like hanging out in trees and waiting on there prey, try releasing birds in an open area. Once they get with the program you should have fewer loses.
Thank you Manuel! hoping after a few more tosses they will understand much better. I'm definitely going to take your advice and try a much less wooded area for the next toss. these falcons and hawks are relentless lately. fingers crossed!
Ur gonna find that all 3 types get pigeons. The coppers get them on takeoff or landing only. The red tails are opportunist. The worst of the 3 is not a hawk but a falcon, the pergrin falcon to be exact, the worst one of them all. Sorry for your loss pal!
is that a redtail ? usually this type of hawks don,t catch pigeons because they are not very fast , with the peregrine falcon and goshawk it,s a different story . your pigeons are very nice but a little bit slow .
Please inform your subscribers not to feed their birds before a toss, you should be able to just go in and pick them up and put them in the carrier and also take a loud whistle with you it throws of the hawk when he’s behind one of your birds and some yelling they are afraid of anything that’s bigger then them like all bullies and good luck in the future Nice loft and carrier
Next time drop your camera and catch your bird they recover quickly after an attack if you could recover it, a cemetery is a good hang out for hawks, mice, rabbits, feral pigeons etc.
At 4.02 it looks like you left a little space in the basket for the your poor pigeons; could you not cram even more in and really overfill it? I would bet you and most of the racing pigeon fanciers kill (cull) more pigeons each year than the hawk ever takes from your lofts.
over a year of keeping pigeons now, and zero deaths from illness. they were only in the basket for a little while and had plenty of airflow. Lastly, I would never kill a pigeon unless it was so injured or maimed that killing it was the only option to prevent more suffering. I treat these birds well, Dave, and I have put blood, sweat, and tears into caring for them and feeding them year-round.
The Hawk that first caught the pigeon was a Coopers' hawk and the second hawk was a Red tailed hawk. That was pretty crazy to see. The pigeon was in shock from the first attack and made a easy meal for the red tail. Hawks are a never ending nuisance if you fly pigeons.
Wow! This is an extremely astute observation!!! I went back and watched it in slow motion and you’re absolutely right! The red tail just stole the meal. Thank you for noticing this, I had no idea.
@@pigeonsrocHaha Thanks man! As a pigeon flyer myself I find raptors super interesting. Thought it was odd seeing a red tailed on your bird. Since red tails are way too slow to catch them mid flight. I see Cooper's do that all the time or at least attempt to. So I had to rewatch the video. Usually even a Cooper's has a hard time catching a strong, experienced pigeon mid flight. So it was easy to tell your birds are inexperienced and not used to being attacked by hawks. But that was a really cool video.
I truly enjoy your videos! I have kept pigeons since I was ten years old I’m seventy five now . I love these birds . Keep up the good work . Happy 2022 .
Gary, I truly appreciate it! glad to meet another pigeon fancier! they are incredible birds, so glad I got into the hobby. Happy 2022 to you!
Dude this entertaining - am very sorry for the loss but you captured the emotion we all know so well as pigeon fanciers.. thank you
I’m sorry for your loss. Keep up the wonderful videos. I don’t keep pigeons but I enjoy watching you keep them with my girlfriend. She also enjoys watching your pigeons. Pigeons roc!
Tim! thank you my friend, it is much appreciated. I'm so elated to hear you and your girlfriend enjoy the videos! I will be posting regular episodes from now on. always open to any suggestions you two might have! - Dave
Love your vids and sorry for the loss of your bird. I learned as a past falconer that raptors can see weaknesses in individual birds flying in a flock. They hone in on that one bird. Once the Cooper’s hawk hit the pigeon it was an easy prey for the Red Tailed Hawk too. If it is any solace, that pigeon had something that made it the focus of the raptor. Something that we couldn’t see but the raptors can. In nature our birds are like a garden. The pigeons, doves and songbirds are the flowers. The raptors are the gardeners that weed out the sick, weak or diseased plants. The vultures run the compost pile.
Unfortunately it happens more than not and unexpectedly. Sorry 4 your loss Dave. I used to raise pigeons when I was in my 20s and hopefully again soon. Love your videos. Happy Holidays !!
Thank you! it is tough to lose one, especially because we hadn't lost one yet. I hope you get to raise pigeons again soon! Happy Holidays friend!
Sorry to hear about the loss my man. Sadly it doesn’t get any easier. Glad most of them made it back home though for your first official training toss.
Sorry for your loss Dave! Loving the videos though great job cranking them out
Thank you Sally! I appreciate your support. Many more videos on the way!
My friend sorry for your loss it happen alot to all the featherhood brother's out there 🙏
Hello, Winter time is bad for training Pigeons, thanks Lewis
very nice man! Best of luck!!
I’m sorry for your loss, Attachment seems to walk with Loss. Onetime I went to Marketplace shopping center in Groveland Mass and two birds swooped down..and then a body fell to the ground and I realized it was a hawk evicerating a pigeon.
The hawk took one of my favorite birds 2 weeks ago.i was bummed.its part of the hobby.still bitter sweet
They are everywhere! It is a bummer. going to try to be more strategic with where I release them.
That’s something u gotta get use to in this hobby
Great video, thanks 👍
Once you release them a few times they will get with the program, I used to loose one bird weekly to the hawk. Sorry for your lost. The hawks like hanging out in trees and waiting on there prey, try releasing birds in an open area. Once they get with the program you should have fewer loses.
Thank you Manuel! hoping after a few more tosses they will understand much better. I'm definitely going to take your advice and try a much less wooded area for the next toss. these falcons and hawks are relentless lately. fingers crossed!
Put fed in carriers every time , easy to catch and load !!
great idea! I'll try that out on the next one.
Ur gonna find that all 3 types get pigeons. The coppers get them on takeoff or landing only. The red tails are opportunist. The worst of the 3 is not a hawk but a falcon, the pergrin falcon to be exact, the worst one of them all. Sorry for your loss pal!
is that a redtail ? usually this type of hawks don,t catch pigeons because they are not very fast , with the peregrine falcon and goshawk it,s a different story . your pigeons are very nice but a little bit slow .
Please inform your subscribers not to feed their birds before a toss, you should be able to just go in and pick them up and put them in the carrier and also take a loud whistle with you it throws of the hawk when he’s behind one of your birds and some yelling they are afraid of anything that’s bigger then them like all bullies and good luck in the future Nice loft and carrier
When are you going to breed you birds?
Hey Ben! breeding will be starting in late February. It will be my first breeding season and I'm super excited.
Rip 🙏
Absolute rip
so have you given up posting videos
Not at all! Just been very busy with school. 2 More episodes have been filmed and are being edited.
New video is up!
Omg .im so sorry ❤
Next time drop your camera and catch your bird they recover quickly after an attack if you could recover it, a cemetery is a good hang out for hawks, mice, rabbits, feral pigeons etc.
You should carry a hunting rifle just for these releases. Take out the hawks real fast!
the feds would love that!
At 4.02 it looks like you left a little space in the basket for the your poor pigeons; could you not cram even more in and really overfill it? I would bet you and most of the racing pigeon fanciers kill (cull) more pigeons each year than the hawk ever takes from your lofts.
over a year of keeping pigeons now, and zero deaths from illness. they were only in the basket for a little while and had plenty of airflow. Lastly, I would never kill a pigeon unless it was so injured or maimed that killing it was the only option to prevent more suffering. I treat these birds well, Dave, and I have put blood, sweat, and tears into caring for them and feeding them year-round.