@@Gameonysus It sucks to see you have to defend yourself in the comments. People really try to dig deep, and come up with reasons for why you didn't like it. Simply accepting the fact that the game didn't click for you is too much for them to understand. I hope you don't feel bad, people on the internet are just kinda the worst.
@@Gameonysus - you come across as a fusspot and unlikeable .has nothing to do if you like the game, although as i'm playing GoT i was wondering how someone could NOT like it.
Beyond Tuesday! 1:41 Mitchell's review and talking points 2:42 Open World Design and BOTW comparisons 8:36 It's "open-ness" and also "barren-ness" map? 10:37 The exploration and collectibles side 12:40 How do we like the campaign structure? 19:46 The visuals side of things and side quests "twists"? 24:19 The combat 37:39 The outfits attire abilities and artifacts? 40:01 The Stealth aspect 45:54 The Cinematic mode 49:00 Mitchell's last thoughts and critiques from the review
Anyone who love open world games will always do most if not all the side quest that is available. If you not into side quest and just want to do the main quest, i do not know why you want to play an open world game anyway.
same here, I liked/agreed with her for first few months she was on beyond and other shows but I quickly realized she is down on so many things. Listening to her in this episode immediately made me recall her talking similarly about the story of a game and her just not caring about it. Guess she just doesn't like many game stories.
I agree. IGN is a great review outlet, however I find her reviews too subjective rather than taking a step back and appreciating what a game is trying to do. If a particular mechanic isn't for her then that's fine, but it seems she just disproportionately critiques things on games and comes across she doesn't enjoy playing games generally.
I honestly have always been this critical. I think guide writing does impact me though but only in that it amplifies the good and the bad. We spend more time looking at these worlds than most players and literally transcribe entire games in the form of direction sets. I think guides writers have a lot to bring to the table but clearly you disagree. Oh well. Hope you liked the episode anyway!
@@Gameonysus Genuine question: Yes guide writers have to look at all of the world but do you think they have time to really soak in the atmosphere and really explore when they're beelining act 2 and 3? To be clear your criticisms are valid and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think for a lot of people it's tough to hear criticism from someone who seemingly didn't give the game a fair shot from the onset (not saying that's what you did but it can come across that way in this video). I'm probably going to love this game regardless since it's a dream game for me so it's all good.
shaq430 this game is massive so yeah. I don’t think b-lining one part of the game matters. I literally said that I thought the world was beautiful. You don’t have to agree with me but idk why disagreeing with me has to mean you hate hearing me talk about games.
@@Gameonysus I personally have never said that I hate hearing you talk about games and I think the people who said that are silly.I know you don't care whether I or anyone else agree or not and never implied otherwise. I just said I can see why people might get frustrated with this specific discussion in particular. Like I said I'm probably going to love this game and hearing someone who isn't in love with the game's opinion won't affect me at all so it's all good.
Yeah she says something that completely contradicts her opinion on the game like the fast travel/ side mission stuff. The fact the game doesn't level gate you makes her job easier and yet she's complaining about it? Like huh?
Hadrian Veska I think the point she was making that you have to do side quests to unlock the fast travel points, so you feel inclined to do them, because many of the quests stretch across the map.
Léon Noël yeah which is why she shouldn't review games. She has a bad experience with the game cuz she has to b line the main story. Ppl don't play vast open world games to b line the story as fast as possible. which makes her negative view invalid for the rest of us
“I actually just want to finish this game”. Typically uttered by no one when they’re really enjoying a game. More useful for someone who makes guides to to just finish a game. I think that’s a slippery slope when you’re there to review a game you like or don’t. Just something I was thinking.
I think you’re missing the pointe of what she’s saying and taking it out of context. She’s saying that as she was making the guide, it was hard to just do the main story, which is what some people do when they’re inundated by a lot of things to do in an open world.
I definitely play games like this like Brian does. I like to do the occasional main quest, and do side content to take in the world. Beelining through this game would be doing this game a huge disservice
Same. I'm the kind of person who once I see credits, it's over. I want the final story mission to be the very last thing I do in a game. So I'll do a main mission or two, then explore and do a bunch of side missions before moving on. Sometimes it'll interrupt the pace of the story but for the most part it's very rewarding.
You won't like it I think then. It's like Witcher 3, they're not expecting you to even finish it, it's like a toy for you to keep playing for a while.m
@@Gameonysus ok Janet Garcia IGN's associate guide editor. I'm Akeen Lewis Watchmaker for Patek Philippe. I didn't say anything about you having to love the game or anyone else loving it. Why you tight for??
@@viewfromvenice2912 'cause everyone's ragging on her, wondering if she even likes games (she does). To be honest when she was new it was jarring, but I've gotten accustomed to her takes
Why was Janet so negative? She seems like she doesn't like games like this in general. She almost complained about every mechanic in the game, I almost forget what game she was talking about by how negative she was being 🤦🏽♂️
@@Gameonysus It was just how everyone loved Ghost on the IGN podcast and you were picking it apart because it was too open world and you wanted to skip everything get the guide done. From the public view, it just seemed you didn't want to give it a chance from the start, that's how the listeners are perceiving it
Anthony Steverson I mean sure but it would be really cool if people could take my criticism for what it is. Just because i b-lined act 2 of 3 doesn’t mean my criticisms are wrong. And tbh I didn’t have to disclose any of that. I just like to give context to help others process my opinion. It sucks that people just use that fact to tell me I shouldn’t be on the show and that I hate games. I’ve leaned into the joke of that but it’s exhausting how much people equate being critical of games to hating games. Why would I do this job if I hated games?
Allow Janet to have her opinion. It's called confirmation bias. Sometimes you should be willing to hear others perspective on the game. Those skeptics will gain more information than those who shower the game with praise. Just listen and let it be
was she assigned the game? fast travel, why? not do any of the side missions? why? I did agree with her on one thing, the "side missions" weren't side missions
Fair enough to have her opinion, but I’m the opposite though. I loved TLOU, however, the TLOU2 was a slog to get through. Nothing really new from the previous game. Combat was literally the same and only one or two new infected. The game is basically cutscene/dialogue/sandbox fight area & explore for items rinse and repeat. I didn’t have a problem with the story or themes used in the game, but the game was too long. Abby’s scenes could have been trimmed. The pacing was bad, but when it came to Santa Barbara (it was my favorite area in the game) that’s where the game really shined. Also it was too dark and dreary for most of the scenes. 7.5/10. As for Ghosts of Tsushima. I wasn’t planning on getting it since the battle system look redundant. I’m 25+hrs in and I can’t get enough of it. Game is gorgeous and fun. Like movies, books, TV shows etc, games are subjective. Different strokes for different folks. Overall most gamers (non media) preferred Ghost of Tsushima over TLOU2.
WTF is he talking about at 15:50? I'm pretty sure Horizon doesn't scale its enemies. A Thunderjaw won't be any different in the beginning of the game than the end of the game. You will be different as you don't have any badass weapons or the skill that you get by leveling up, but everything else is the same. The real problem is when enemies vary by level and are tougher at higher levels. I've been playing AC Origins recently have been extremely annoyed by enemies in certain areas being impossible to kill early and basically one shot me. If anything, Horizon is a example of how to properly handle levels in an open world game.
No offense, but I hate hearing a wiki persons opinion on a video game. Of course they’re not going to enjoy the game, they’re having to find every detail in the game, in a timely matter, while at the same time documenting it all to put into a guide. You’re constantly being pulled out of the experience and aren’t playing it how it’s intended to be played. I’m trying to platinum this game, but I get to do it at my own pace, and and not for work. I like getting different opinions and perspectives on a game, but Janet’s gripes with it I see as reasons she didn’t like it because she was doing the wiki.
Oh, so what do you think based off of your experience with the game? She’s pointing out minor flaws amongst a game she’s saying is overall well made but personally not a game she loves. You’re just being negative because you’re upset because you don’t know how to handle hearing criticism towards something you’re hyped about.
This my time watching her and I haven’t played the Ghost game but gosh she is just very irritating to listen to, she is very pessimistic and sound like she forces her self to play the game, I bet she did not even beat the game by the sound of it.
I’m really looking forward to jumping in at release at midnight but can also accept this game probably has some flaws from what I’ve seen. It is not perfect in the slightest. People are allowed their opinions. If everyone in the world was the same, it’d friggin’ suck
Janet it’s like the kind of person with no filter, sometimes while listening to PB, I’m like “Read the room girl”, it’s not like she is a hater it’s more like she just says whatever it’s on her mind, she just needs more tact
heres a question. Why is it so hard to find these videos on IGN's website? I come to TH-cam because it's a nightmare trying to find these vids on the website. There should be a dedicated location to find these videos and GameScoop and others as well.
I meant a dedicated location on the main page. The are pretty well hidden considering ign is a business based on traffic. Anyone new to the site or to the shows is not likely to run into them, thus, TH-cam gets the traffic.
@@TeamTigerBloods Far, far more people listen to these podcasts than watch them, and practically no one watched them back when they did advertise them prominently on the site. HP real estate is too valuable to devote to such a small viewing audience, unfortunately.
Ayyyy you said it not me. Totally don’t mind ppl disagreeing with me but folks are literally saying I don’t know what I’m talking about and it’s pretty unfounded.
Gameonysus to say the side missions were subpar is ridiculous and unfounded in itself since you didn’t clarify, delineate, and explain why that’s the case. In fact GoT actually modeled a lot of their side tales (quests) on the structure and form of the Witcher 3. Its super clear they emulated them from the investigations you conduct inside of the tales to the way they generally played out. I would it’s actually the strongest part of the game! One of my favorite is when you pick up a quest from Umugi Cove regarding a woman who is looking for a daughter only to find her captive and imprisoned. You find out bandits kidnapped her so she can be used in their scheme to Robb people. There many elaborate stories that goes into the deep and rich world of Tsushima. For a Non-RPG and straight up action-adventure game it’s very rich with meaningful and insight stories that colors the world and it’s characters. I strongly disagree with you in your opinion and views on the side stories but hey, it’s your opinion right. I may not love or enjoy the games you like as well. I know you’re a fan of BoW. In many ways it’s my cup of tea and there’s a number of things about it that puts a bad taste in my mouth.
Appreciate the perspective that Janet provides. Haven't read all the comments but I hope she's not receiving shit for not loving the game - people just don't like anyone who doesn't agree with their own experience of the game.
The upgrade systems sounds like something I would love, its what keeps me wanting to play and get stronger etc. The last open world game that I really loved was Elder Scrolls Oblivion I was such a bad ass in that game omg I killed everything until there was nothing left lol. The updgrading part is what hooks me in these games. I dont mind grinding it out to get bonuses. that's the fun part.
I think you’ll like this then! At least for its progression and upgrades. I rolled credits with a lot of my stuff maxed out but definitely not all (such as the stance upgrades or ghost upgrades; I had all the general techniques).
Anyone looking to B line an open-world game, sorry to say but open-world games are not for you. There is no point for a gamer to B line an open-world game especially at the start.
I think disagreement is required in a discussion. No Game is perfect, so the best critics try to balance Pros and Cons in such a way that their conclusion and rating makes sense. Same goes for discussions. Besides her no-one really mentioned anything bad about the game. She is entitled to her opinion though.
Such an amazing game! The only point of constructive criticism is, too many inari shrines. All of the other collectibles felt reasonably spaced out, since there were only about half of them 🤣, but outside of that, Jin is very compelling and the story is very good!
Am I the only person that actually likes the stealth in this game? If you're only counting stealth as in the assassination kills then yea it can be basic but when you add all the ninja tools, bows, and environmental hazards i find the stealth fun.
I think the praise that goes to Batman's combat is mostly from nostalgia. Insomniac's Spiderman has better combat than Batman.Batman should no longer be the measure.
Agreed, Insomniac's Spiderman combat was way better and I always love how people claim that style of combat came from the Arkham cames when in fact the Arkham games took that style of combat from the old spiderman games.
Damn Brian, at one point we counted, check for yourself. In one sentence you spoke 10 words, 7 of them were the word “LIKE”. Seriously, get a teleprompter if you need it, it’s annoying AF.
It's funny how I'm blocked by half this panel on Twitter...lol. 1 I have no idea why, as I never followed him or commented on a post of his. The other because she can't handle a respectable counter to her political views. 1 opposing view and she responds harshly, then blocks you before you can respond. It was pretty funny
nikehike you already made this comment on your own. Why do you feel the need to make it again on someone else’s post? You much really have a problem with me.
If you’re asking this out of genuine curiosity (you’re probably not) it’s out of line bc it’s none of your business. If you’re asking this as an insult you’re an asshole.
I think it comes down to how you feel about Samurai stories in general. A lot of people think traditional Samurai stories are "generic" so I can see why people might not vibe with it. As someone who loves Samurai films and media in general I can see myself enjoying it.
@@alextownley9388 There are some great ones out there lol. I'll give you a few recommendations to get you started: Yojimbo Harakiri (1962) Sword of Doom The 6 Lone Wolf & Cub Films (1972-1974) 13 Assasins (2010) If you're into anime at all then here are a few good Samurai anime: Samurai Champloo Sword of the Stranger (film) Shigurui: Death Frenzy Angolmois: Record of Mongol Invasion
shaq430 I’ve always heard Seven Samurai is essentially the one to rule them all, but I know it’s in Japanese, and very long, so reading almost 4 hours of subtitles sounds extremely daunting for me.
@@alextownley9388 Yea thats exactly the reason I don't recommend Seven Samurai to beginners. I usually wait until they decide that they enjoy Samurai films and then tell them to watch it... while I understand the critical significance of Seven Samurai some of the other films I recommended are much more digestible for first timers imo
shutter butter I was on the same boat. I had no anticipation for this game and combat looked boring. 25+hrs in and damn, I just ate my shorts. Top 5 game of PS4’s lifecycle hands down and my GOTY candidate. When you get more non media gamers praising it higher than media folks, you know you got a winner here. Games are meant to be fun and boy, this game is hella fun!
The thing he says about stealth is so true about so many stealth games that needs to change. What the AI has to do in the in between moments of spotted and hidden needs to change. The Last of Us 2 does stealth well with how they react and change their tactics, it creates these interesting spots where you have to be opportunistic and think on the fly and adjust. I think stealth games that are going for more realistic gameplay need to create more phases of behavior for AI. Untitled Goose Game is kind of a stealth puzzle game, but for me it kind of had an interesting flow of what of being experimental and how you flow in and out of stealth, but that premise is a bit too unique to carry over into stealth games where you kill targets instead of just do objectives and cause havoc around enemies.
That's what happens when you have a massive budget and 7 years, you can fix anything. GTA V is still around cuz it had a nearly $400 million budget and like 6-8 years of development time, it was more detailed than any two games combined before it.
Yeah I didn’t mention it at the time but the stealth was my biggest let down. I love stealth and this didn’t offer that in the way I was hoping for. Was way too rudimentary. I do think pulling off good stealth is hard tho. Most games fall short in that regard.
@@Gameonysus Yea the stealth AI...You know make it so they don't do the dumb things you guys were witnessing, they seem pretty blatantly obvious and something should be fixable
What fun lighthearted multiplayer games are people playing on playstation? I find myself a bit lonely as I mainly play single player story focused games and would like to play with others.
The lack of Japanese lip sync is a massive disappointment and makes me wonder whether to play in English. With how much effort Sucker Punch have put into authenticity of what inspired them, it’s undone by this decision. They should have prioritised Japanese performance capture then given the option of an English dub.
And then the English dubs would've had the same problem... I think they were right to prioritize the English performance because the vast majority of people will play the game in English . Also, the company is an American company. Most of the people working on the game and the writers of the game are English speakers or have knowledge of English. That would've been a lot different if most writers were Japanese. So I understand your disappointment but It makes sense why the Original Version is in English.
Hellsing7747 I know that an English dub would have the same problem but reversed, I would be ok with that. Every review i’ve seen has brought up this lack of lip-sync, as a negative. I understand why SP have done it this way, but I feel it was still the wrong decision. PlayStation have huge resources and are a Japanese company so SP could have easily hired the relevant people to make good on their commitment of ‘authenticity’ to what inspired them.
@@ChrisWTube well I'd say they're about 85% committed to authenticity because if they were 100%, they would have used the correct weaponry for the time period since the katana wasn't created until the 14th century while this is set in the 13th.
@@mitchellsaltzman1559 It's subjective though.... Sekiro, you have to play the way it wants you to play. I believe GOT offers a lot more freedom in combat to play how you want, which is just different.... doesn't mean it's better or worse. Just depends what you're into. I love Sekiro and the challenge and getting the rhythm for deflection.
I think Ghost has better combat than Sekiro, personally. It’s much more fun and dynamic and there are more toys/stances to play with. Sekiro’s combat is great but it feels more like a rhythm game. Anyway, Bloodborne has better combat than both of them so who cares.
@@BrianAltano I'm one of the rare FromSoft fans that prefers Sekiro to Bloodborne but I love Bloodborne as well. In terms of combat I might biased because I prefer the feudal Japan aesthetic over the gothic horror/lovecraftian aesthetic but I think the Nioh series has the best combat system of all the "souls-likes" by far although Bloodborne's combat is really fun.. I think Bloodborne's world, and atmosphere are incredible and the main reasons why it's most people favorite FromSoftware game so I understand why it's your top 3 of all time. It's in my top 10 so I love it as well but I prefer the gameplay loop of the Nioh series.
I think it comes down to how you feel about Samurai stories in general. A lot of people think traditional Samurai stories are "generic" so I can see why people might not vibe with it. As someone who loves Samurai films and media in general I can see myself enjoying it.
Different strokes! I found the writing to be good but the plot to be meh. Which is to say the individual lines were good but the story they’re telling falls flat.
I can tell the girl on the bottom right isn’t a real gamer. She complains about every game unless it’s TLOU2. I guess it wasn’t enough females and social issues in the game for her.
I can tell you’re just committed to your warped view of me considering the fact that I’ve been on this show several times praising several different games and have a rich history of plenty of games I’ve loved over the years. Also. I don’t respect anyone who claims anyone isn’t a real gamer especially when my job is literally to play games and provide game help. My job is not to lie to you and say I liked a game just so you don’t get mad at me or get your feelings hurt.
Why did IGN forced Janet to play these types of game and not only that but to do a guide for it? I think its best to give someone who enjoy a type of game to do a guide for it. Like forcing someone who doesnt like sports game to do a guide about sports game doesnt make sense.
I'm 1 of 4 people working on the guide. Contrary to what people want to believe being in video game media does not mean you only cover games you love. Ofc there are some exceptions. I'd never do a soulslike or a hardcore shooter bc I am incapable of doing them. But this game isn't too hard or too confusing for me to do. It's just not my taste. I never understand why people think I need to always be having a hobby level of fun at my job.
Gameonysus Majority of the people who work in the industry love video games. They are one of the few blessed people to be able to work in an industry that they love. Comparing a person working at IGN to a dude working at a register at target shows the lack of awareness or just tone deaf of why people doesnt think you did a good job at reviewing this game. And yes I know you not the actual reviewer for IGN but when you on a podcast like this you are all reviewing this game currently. So you saying that it doesnt matter if you enjoy the work you do as long as you able go do it an its fine? Reviewing games and giving guides to a game is hard, not saying it isnt but to say that its ok to do a guide to a type of game that you dont really enjoy is ok is not right. Im not saying that i know how IGN or other game media do their job curating but I just find it weird to have someone who doesnt have the passion for a certain type of game to do a guide for it. Thousands of people will look up for these guides for help and most will assumed those people who give out guides and tips actually give a shit about the game instead of just as a "job". I wouldnt want to try a nice meal from a chef who doesnt like cooking or doesnt put their hearts and soul into the food. Maybe you do enjoy video games but not these type of games. If you hate video games and you actually work for IGN, that to me will make alot of fans upset because thousands of gamers would die to work for a gaming media like IGN but because ign only hired people they know is hard to get in. If they found out someone who doesnt care for video games but only get the job cus of connection and just for a pay check, im sure they will be upset
@@epicwolf @epicwolf 1. I absolutely love games. It's why I do this job. I make that comparison to point out how ridiculous it is to me that someone could not understand why I would work on a guide for a game I didn't love. 2. "blessed people" look, I love what I do and I am thankful to be in my position but I think ppl have really warped views of the fact that my job is a job. It's one I bust my ass for and worked hard to get. I didn't win a raffle here. 3. I just disagree. A podcast is not a review. I did not sign up to review Ghost nor would I ever bc I am not an expert in the genre. I'm just here as someone who played the game to share my insights. I actually kinda like that I didn't have the same opinion or background bc that can be helpful to some players. 4. I also disagree with the "it's not okay to do a guide if you didn't enjoy the game" by that logic I should stop doing my job whenever I didn't like a game. Sometimes it's impossible to tell if you'll like a game and giving up bc I wasn't have fun would make me a really bad employee and teammate. On that note I am happy to answer questions on how we go about doing guides. Our core team consists of 3 staff members including myself. We get lots of video support from others and we have a great team of freelancers. In this case I was 1 of 4 ppl working on it. Ghost is the biggest game out rn. I can't say "hey boss, I think this game is good but I don't love it. I will no longer be working on this guide. My part will not be done. Goodbye." I hope that gives some context! 5. People looking at game help want the answers. I don't think the fact that I didn't have fun finding a hot spring means my info on where the hot spring is is now bad information. 6. Lastly, again. I love games. I loved TLOU 2. I spoke fondly of my time with Watch Dogs Legion. I enjoyed Dreams. I've loved a lot of games this year. I just didn't love ghost and idt that should be so upsetting AND I actually really like being open about the games i dislike that I play for work. Too many people romanticize this job and it turns them into angry mobs online who call us "ungrateful" or "fake." I love working at IGN but I would really love if people respected the work it takes and realize the job is a lot more than "loving games." I will keep driving that point home until the end of time bc I think it's so important and so misunderstood.
Lol I typically agree with Janets views on games, so its crazy for me to read the comments and everyone saying they wish she would not review games. I really think having a range of views on a gaming podcast is a good thing.
I would consider a lightsaber to be a sword so I have a hard time believing the combat is better than in Jedi Fallen Order. Also the best melee combat in any game period is in The Surge.
@@ancientflames you're an idiot, at no point did I express an opinion on it. I expressed opinions on games I've played quite a lot. Please learn to read.
@@HypeVectorPrime lol ok chief. "The best melee combat in any game period is the Surge" That's an opinion bud. Keep liking your own comments too, that really boosts your credibility.
@@ancientflames yeah, I've played an absolute shit ton of the surge, so therefore my opinion is valid, I made no statement of opinion regarding a game I've never played, again please learn to read before spouting stupid shit.
I see lots of snowflakes can’t handle a different opinion than their own. I love a strong woman with her own mind and opinion. I respect anyone who doesn’t like her style but I really enjoy it. If this upsets you get help.
I’m glad you like me but I love what Dorno has done with the show. He puts in a lot of work to get dev interviews and do pick up episodes and add new segments.
@@DarkSalvation22 30FPS 1st party, so half the value down to $30 then because "you've played this before" dropped another $10. Therefore, save to play once $20.
@@MrX-nh4zl First Party is inherently bad to you? Maybe my understanding of what first party implies, but to me that's never been a detracting factor. 30 FPS is disappointing, but not something I can't accept
I feel like Janet tries to not have fun in video games lol
Lol i promise that is not the case. I spent the last 3rd of this game wearing a basket on my head. This game just didn’t wow me. That’s all.
@@Gameonysus It sucks to see you have to defend yourself in the comments. People really try to dig deep, and come up with reasons for why you didn't like it. Simply accepting the fact that the game didn't click for you is too much for them to understand. I hope you don't feel bad, people on the internet are just kinda the worst.
@@bumduckegypt2110 -maybe you and her should sit quietly together and hold hands?
@@Gameonysus - you come across as a fusspot and unlikeable .has nothing to do if you like the game, although as i'm playing GoT i was wondering how someone could NOT like it.
@@beavis4play Nah, but maybe you and me can hold hands, sweetie
Beyond Tuesday!
1:41 Mitchell's review and talking points
2:42 Open World Design and BOTW comparisons
8:36 It's "open-ness" and also "barren-ness" map?
10:37 The exploration and collectibles side
12:40 How do we like the campaign structure?
19:46 The visuals side of things and side quests "twists"?
24:19 The combat
37:39 The outfits attire abilities and artifacts?
40:01 The Stealth aspect
45:54 The Cinematic mode
49:00 Mitchell's last thoughts and critiques from the review
*barren-ness, but thanks for the timestamps!
You've served the gaming community well. Here's a sticker⭐
Baron-ness 😂😂😂😂
Anyone who love open world games will always do most if not all the side quest that is available. If you not into side quest and just want to do the main quest, i do not know why you want to play an open world game anyway.
I never listen to Janet she hates everything and get she always bums me out
agreed!
same here, I liked/agreed with her for first few months she was on beyond and other shows but I quickly realized she is down on so many things. Listening to her in this episode immediately made me recall her talking similarly about the story of a game and her just not caring about it. Guess she just doesn't like many game stories.
I agree. IGN is a great review outlet, however I find her reviews too subjective rather than taking a step back and appreciating what a game is trying to do. If a particular mechanic isn't for her then that's fine, but it seems she just disproportionately critiques things on games and comes across she doesn't enjoy playing games generally.
I just noticed how down she is, does she even like video games? lol
Facts!!
I’m sorry but couldn’t stand Janet here, super annoying. I hade to stop watching..sorry
You could tell Writing guides has made a big impact on the way Janet talks about games. And I hate it lol.
I honestly have always been this critical. I think guide writing does impact me though but only in that it amplifies the good and the bad. We spend more time looking at these worlds than most players and literally transcribe entire games in the form of direction sets. I think guides writers have a lot to bring to the table but clearly you disagree. Oh well. Hope you liked the episode anyway!
@@Gameonysus Genuine question: Yes guide writers have to look at all of the world but do you think they have time to really soak in the atmosphere and really explore when they're beelining act 2 and 3? To be clear your criticisms are valid and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think for a lot of people it's tough to hear criticism from someone who seemingly didn't give the game a fair shot from the onset (not saying that's what you did but it can come across that way in this video). I'm probably going to love this game regardless since it's a dream game for me so it's all good.
shaq430 this game is massive so yeah. I don’t think b-lining one part of the game matters. I literally said that I thought the world was beautiful. You don’t have to agree with me but idk why disagreeing with me has to mean you hate hearing me talk about games.
@@Gameonysus I personally have never said that I hate hearing you talk about games and I think the people who said that are silly.I know you don't care whether I or anyone else agree or not and never implied otherwise. I just said I can see why people might get frustrated with this specific discussion in particular. Like I said I'm probably going to love this game and hearing someone who isn't in love with the game's opinion won't affect me at all so it's all good.
@@ZeroHayabusa oh sorry! I misread it as the OP of this thread who had said "And I hate it lol."
Whenever this girl speaks I press Forward. She is so jarring .
Yeah she says something that completely contradicts her opinion on the game like the fast travel/ side mission stuff.
The fact the game doesn't level gate you makes her job easier and yet she's complaining about it? Like huh?
Hadrian Veska I think the point she was making that you have to do side quests to unlock the fast travel points, so you feel inclined to do them, because many of the quests stretch across the map.
Léon Noël yeah which is why she shouldn't review games. She has a bad experience with the game cuz she has to b line the main story. Ppl don't play vast open world games to b line the story as fast as possible. which makes her negative view invalid for the rest of us
“I actually just want to finish this game”. Typically uttered by no one when they’re really enjoying a game. More useful for someone who makes guides to to just finish a game. I think that’s a slippery slope when you’re there to review a game you like or don’t. Just something I was thinking.
I think you’re missing the pointe of what she’s saying and taking it out of context. She’s saying that as she was making the guide, it was hard to just do the main story, which is what some people do when they’re inundated by a lot of things to do in an open world.
I agree, super cringy hearing her talk about this game
@@NeonLeonNoel she literally said she went straight to side quests but found out there was important stuff she needed from the main story.
This and Witcher and botw and somewhat red dead only games I don’t really use the horse or fast travel
I definitely play games like this like Brian does. I like to do the occasional main quest, and do side content to take in the world. Beelining through this game would be doing this game a huge disservice
Same. I'm the kind of person who once I see credits, it's over. I want the final story mission to be the very last thing I do in a game. So I'll do a main mission or two, then explore and do a bunch of side missions before moving on. Sometimes it'll interrupt the pace of the story but for the most part it's very rewarding.
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 yeah exactly. That's the reason I have almost 200 hours in Assassin's Creed Origins haha
You won't like it I think then. It's like Witcher 3, they're not expecting you to even finish it, it's like a toy for you to keep playing for a while.m
@@HermanFalckHow I've been playing it, it's outstanding
@@HermanFalckHow I completed every quest in The Witcher 3 on my first playthrough. Took me about 200 hours
who is the girl she is killing the the vibe in a weird/corny way
Killed the vibe 💯
💀
I’m Janet Garcia: IGN’s associate guide editor. Who are you and why do you need everyone to love a game you haven’t even played yet?
@@Gameonysus ok Janet Garcia IGN's associate guide editor. I'm Akeen Lewis Watchmaker for Patek Philippe. I didn't say anything about you having to love the game or anyone else loving it. Why you tight for??
@@viewfromvenice2912 'cause everyone's ragging on her, wondering if she even likes games (she does). To be honest when she was new it was jarring, but I've gotten accustomed to her takes
What would Brian Altano do if he was here right now? 🎶
He'd make a plan and he'd follow through,
That's what Brian Altano’d do! 🎵
Why was Janet so negative? She seems like she doesn't like games like this in general. She almost complained about every mechanic in the game, I almost forget what game she was talking about by how negative she was being 🤦🏽♂️
Literally was just on here talking about how much I loved TLOU 2.
@@Gameonysus It was just how everyone loved Ghost on the IGN podcast and you were picking it apart because it was too open world and you wanted to skip everything get the guide done. From the public view, it just seemed you didn't want to give it a chance from the start, that's how the listeners are perceiving it
Anthony Steverson I mean sure but it would be really cool if people could take my criticism for what it is. Just because i b-lined act 2 of 3 doesn’t mean my criticisms are wrong. And tbh I didn’t have to disclose any of that. I just like to give context to help others process my opinion. It sucks that people just use that fact to tell me I shouldn’t be on the show and that I hate games. I’ve leaned into the joke of that but it’s exhausting how much people equate being critical of games to hating games. Why would I do this job if I hated games?
BOTW, the game that did nothing new but is taking credit for every major innovation in open world design because it's Zelda & Nintendo.
Fucking thank you
Eh, I think it refined a lot of things like with the map design, and the way your abilities combine and affect the the things in the world.
Léon Noël I respectfully disagree
*slaps desk in Michael Scott* Thank you!!!
@Bobby Lou check out The Witcher 3 if youre into an open world game with heavy dialogue and story. I would also say check out Horizon Zero Dawn
Allow Janet to have her opinion. It's called confirmation bias. Sometimes you should be willing to hear others perspective on the game.
Those skeptics will gain more information than those who shower the game with praise. Just listen and let it be
She didn’t do that with TLOU2 though.
was she assigned the game? fast travel, why? not do any of the side missions? why? I did agree with her on one thing, the "side missions" weren't side missions
JBurnz001 i likes TLOU 2 and didn’t really like Ghost. Idk why that’s so hard for you to understand. Do you like every game you play?
Fair enough to have her opinion, but I’m the opposite though. I loved TLOU, however, the TLOU2 was a slog to get through. Nothing really new from the previous game. Combat was literally the same and only one or two new infected. The game is basically cutscene/dialogue/sandbox fight area & explore for items rinse and repeat. I didn’t have a problem with the story or themes used in the game, but the game was too long. Abby’s scenes could have been trimmed. The pacing was bad, but when it came to Santa Barbara (it was my favorite area in the game) that’s where the game really shined. Also it was too dark and dreary for most of the scenes. 7.5/10.
As for Ghosts of Tsushima. I wasn’t planning on getting it since the battle system look redundant. I’m 25+hrs in and I can’t get enough of it. Game is gorgeous and fun.
Like movies, books, TV shows etc, games are subjective. Different strokes for different folks. Overall most gamers (non media) preferred Ghost of Tsushima over TLOU2.
Man, Bryan’s love for games encourages me to play ‘em... kudos
WTF is he talking about at 15:50? I'm pretty sure Horizon doesn't scale its enemies. A Thunderjaw won't be any different in the beginning of the game than the end of the game. You will be different as you don't have any badass weapons or the skill that you get by leveling up, but everything else is the same. The real problem is when enemies vary by level and are tougher at higher levels. I've been playing AC Origins recently have been extremely annoyed by enemies in certain areas being impossible to kill early and basically one shot me. If anything, Horizon is a example of how to properly handle levels in an open world game.
HZD didn't skill the enemies. not sure what he was talking about
I'm sorry I can't even compare breath of the wild to this I mean it was good and all but this is on another level.
No offense, but I hate hearing a wiki persons opinion on a video game. Of course they’re not going to enjoy the game, they’re having to find every detail in the game, in a timely matter, while at the same time documenting it all to put into a guide. You’re constantly being pulled out of the experience and aren’t playing it how it’s intended to be played. I’m trying to platinum this game, but I get to do it at my own pace, and and not for work. I like getting different opinions and perspectives on a game, but Janet’s gripes with it I see as reasons she didn’t like it because she was doing the wiki.
Why is she even here? She doesnt even play these games
Janet is the worst
Thanks for watching. Hope you got something out of the episode anyway!
this woman is clueless.
Oh, so what do you think based off of your experience with the game? She’s pointing out minor flaws amongst a game she’s saying is overall well made but personally not a game she loves. You’re just being negative because you’re upset because you don’t know how to handle hearing criticism towards something you’re hyped about.
This my time watching her and I haven’t played the Ghost game but gosh she is just very irritating to listen to, she is very pessimistic and sound like she forces her self to play the game, I bet she did not even beat the game by the sound of it.
Darth Jajar i didn’t beat it at the time but neither did Brian or dorno. Just rolled credits today.
At the time of you writing this comment you haven’t even played the game so what is this based on?
IGN reviews are really the worst man. lolol
If your thought is to mainline the game, don't play it. It's not for you, you won't like it.
I only mainlined act 2. I played act 1 regularly and did all the side stuff in act 3.
Janet - calm down!
No more cocaine/coffee for you !!!
I’m really looking forward to jumping in at release at midnight but can also accept this game probably has some flaws from what I’ve seen. It is not perfect in the slightest. People are allowed their opinions. If everyone in the world was the same, it’d friggin’ suck
Hope you like it!
Gameonysus thank you, always value your takes!
Janet it’s like the kind of person with no filter, sometimes while listening to PB, I’m like “Read the room girl”, it’s not like she is a hater it’s more like she just says whatever it’s on her mind, she just needs more tact
That lady was weird
heres a question. Why is it so hard to find these videos on IGN's website? I come to TH-cam because it's a nightmare trying to find these vids on the website.
There should be a dedicated location to find these videos and GameScoop and others as well.
There already is. It's called the Original Shows section, it's right in the site header under More.
I meant a dedicated location on the main page. The are pretty well hidden considering ign is a business based on traffic. Anyone new to the site or to the shows is not likely to run into them, thus, TH-cam gets the traffic.
@@TeamTigerBloods Far, far more people listen to these podcasts than watch them, and practically no one watched them back when they did advertise them prominently on the site. HP real estate is too valuable to devote to such a small viewing audience, unfortunately.
Ohnoh how do you build an audience?
I needed a game like this life’s been so stressful and it’s just a joy to be in this world sucker punch made a point of their place in the game world.
Beyond!
Ya can’t bash someone else’s opinion of a game when you haven’t played it. JS
Ayyyy you said it not me. Totally don’t mind ppl disagreeing with me but folks are literally saying I don’t know what I’m talking about and it’s pretty unfounded.
Gameonysus to say the side missions were subpar is ridiculous and unfounded in itself since you didn’t clarify, delineate, and explain why that’s the case. In fact GoT actually modeled a lot of their side tales (quests) on the structure and form of the Witcher 3. Its super clear they emulated them from the investigations you conduct inside of the tales to the way they generally played out. I would it’s actually the strongest part of the game! One of my favorite is when you pick up a quest from Umugi Cove regarding a woman who is looking for a daughter only to find her captive and imprisoned. You find out bandits kidnapped her so she can be used in their scheme to Robb people. There many elaborate stories that goes into the deep and rich world of Tsushima. For a Non-RPG and straight up action-adventure game it’s very rich with meaningful and insight stories that colors the world and it’s characters. I strongly disagree with you in your opinion and views on the side stories but hey, it’s your opinion right. I may not love or enjoy the games you like as well. I know you’re a fan of BoW. In many ways it’s my cup of tea and there’s a number of things about it that puts a bad taste in my mouth.
@@RedMisfit I never said the side missions were bad.
Gameonysus you’re right. Apologies. When I re-watched it you actually praised and gave credit to their side story crafting ability. Sorry about that 😐
I’m sorry she does not sound like a gamer she need to go play some
Appreciate the perspective that Janet provides. Haven't read all the comments but I hope she's not receiving shit for not loving the game - people just don't like anyone who doesn't agree with their own experience of the game.
Extremely WuTang 🤣😂
All about the all black
The upgrade systems sounds like something I would love, its what keeps me wanting to play and get stronger etc. The last open world game that I really loved was Elder Scrolls Oblivion I was such a bad ass in that game omg I killed everything until there was nothing left lol. The updgrading part is what hooks me in these games. I dont mind grinding it out to get bonuses. that's the fun part.
I think you’ll like this then! At least for its progression and upgrades. I rolled credits with a lot of my stuff maxed out but definitely not all (such as the stance upgrades or ghost upgrades; I had all the general techniques).
Stop calling things spoiler free,it someone not know about any part ,it's a spoiler.
Mitchell "God Hand" Saltzman
Anyone looking to B line an open-world game, sorry to say but open-world games are not for you. There is no point for a gamer to B line an open-world game especially at the start.
I think disagreement is required in a discussion. No Game is perfect, so the best critics try to balance Pros and Cons in such a way that their conclusion and rating makes sense. Same goes for discussions. Besides her no-one really mentioned anything bad about the game. She is entitled to her opinion though.
Thanks tho Mitchell and Brian did bring up how the stealth falls short FWIW
Unless it’s the last of us 2
@@JBurnz001 What do you mean? TLOU2 is perfect?
Make Cory play Ghost of Tsushima please! Spread the message! He NEEDS to play Ghost of Tsushima! Spread the message!!!
Such an amazing game! The only point of constructive criticism is, too many inari shrines. All of the other collectibles felt reasonably spaced out, since there were only about half of them 🤣, but outside of that, Jin is very compelling and the story is very good!
LMAO @ the coordinated wave/nod between Brian and Mitchell
ICONIC
And not scripted!
Gameonysus unscripted...that’s so wild 😂
mitchell is wrong - they WILL come up on a roof to get you - they did me (playing on hard difficulty). are they playing this on easy mode?
Am I the only person that actually likes the stealth in this game? If you're only counting stealth as in the assassination kills then yea it can be basic but when you add all the ninja tools, bows, and environmental hazards i find the stealth fun.
That's a dope Trafalgar Law shirt, Mitchell!
thanks! I got it in Japan at the One Piece store in Tokyo Tower. It's like my new favorite shirt.
The game is a Masterpiece. It’s my GOTY right now and I never expected to be saying that.
Y'all need to relax on Janet. Gahlee.
Hop off her dick
I think the praise that goes to Batman's combat is mostly from nostalgia. Insomniac's Spiderman has better combat than Batman.Batman should no longer be the measure.
Agreed, Insomniac's Spiderman combat was way better and I always love how people claim that style of combat came from the Arkham cames when in fact the Arkham games took that style of combat from the old spiderman games.
I wish it was an option to tone down the wind animation in the game. I would prefer it to be more subtle
Damn Brian, at one point we counted, check for yourself. In one sentence you spoke 10 words, 7 of them were the word “LIKE”. Seriously, get a teleprompter if you need it, it’s annoying AF.
Tough it out.
It's funny how I'm blocked by half this panel on Twitter...lol. 1 I have no idea why, as I never followed him or commented on a post of his. The other because she can't handle a respectable counter to her political views. 1 opposing view and she responds harshly, then blocks you before you can respond. It was pretty funny
she is absolutely clueless.
nikehike you already made this comment on your own. Why do you feel the need to make it again on someone else’s post? You much really have a problem with me.
Does Janet have autism?
If you’re asking this out of genuine curiosity (you’re probably not) it’s out of line bc it’s none of your business. If you’re asking this as an insult you’re an asshole.
First Comment! I love these podcasts! But i be playing it on spotify hebe
Thanks for watching/listening!
I’ve heard the complete opposite from other people talking about the quality of the writing.
I think it comes down to how you feel about Samurai stories in general. A lot of people think traditional Samurai stories are "generic" so I can see why people might not vibe with it. As someone who loves Samurai films and media in general I can see myself enjoying it.
shaq430 I’ve literally never seen a Samurai movie. Not because of a lack of interest I just have no clue where to start. Lol
@@alextownley9388 There are some great ones out there lol. I'll give you a few recommendations to get you started:
Yojimbo
Harakiri (1962)
Sword of Doom
The 6 Lone Wolf & Cub Films (1972-1974)
13 Assasins (2010)
If you're into anime at all then here are a few good Samurai anime:
Samurai Champloo
Sword of the Stranger (film)
Shigurui: Death Frenzy
Angolmois: Record of Mongol Invasion
shaq430 I’ve always heard Seven Samurai is essentially the one to rule them all, but I know it’s in Japanese, and very long, so reading almost 4 hours of subtitles sounds extremely daunting for me.
@@alextownley9388 Yea thats exactly the reason I don't recommend Seven Samurai to beginners. I usually wait until they decide that they enjoy Samurai films and then tell them to watch it... while I understand the critical significance of Seven Samurai some of the other films I recommended are much more digestible for first timers imo
Solid review, Mitchell, and much appreciated, but it needs a proofread.
Anytime Mitch is on, I watch!
Whiners
I know this is "spoiler-free", but I have to say, it's spoiling a bunch for me, so I'll hold off on watching this further until I plat the game.
Yeah reviewers keep saying spoiler free review,no such thing in my opinion,if you not see it before it's a spoiler.
Damn after hearing you guys talk really makes me not want to get this game.
shutter butter I was on the same boat. I had no anticipation for this game and combat looked boring. 25+hrs in and damn, I just ate my shorts. Top 5 game of PS4’s lifecycle hands down and my GOTY candidate. When you get more non media gamers praising it higher than media folks, you know you got a winner here. Games are meant to be fun and boy, this game is hella fun!
The thing he says about stealth is so true about so many stealth games that needs to change. What the AI has to do in the in between moments of spotted and hidden needs to change. The Last of Us 2 does stealth well with how they react and change their tactics, it creates these interesting spots where you have to be opportunistic and think on the fly and adjust. I think stealth games that are going for more realistic gameplay need to create more phases of behavior for AI.
Untitled Goose Game is kind of a stealth puzzle game, but for me it kind of had an interesting flow of what of being experimental and how you flow in and out of stealth, but that premise is a bit too unique to carry over into stealth games where you kill targets instead of just do objectives and cause havoc around enemies.
That's what happens when you have a massive budget and 7 years, you can fix anything. GTA V is still around cuz it had a nearly $400 million budget and like 6-8 years of development time, it was more detailed than any two games combined before it.
Yeah I didn’t mention it at the time but the stealth was my biggest let down. I love stealth and this didn’t offer that in the way I was hoping for. Was way too rudimentary. I do think pulling off good stealth is hard tho. Most games fall short in that regard.
So excited to play this game!!!
Do you think they could fix the AI post launch?
Maybe some tweaks but I dont see them doing a huge overhaul. Assuming you are talking about the stealth AI correct?
@@Gameonysus Yea the stealth AI...You know make it so they don't do the dumb things you guys were witnessing, they seem pretty blatantly obvious and something should be fixable
It's a boomstick
What fun lighthearted multiplayer games are people playing on playstation? I find myself a bit lonely as I mainly play single player story focused games and would like to play with others.
Overcooked, Lovers in a Dangerous Space Time , Streets of Rage 4, A Way Out, Unravel 2!
The same major multiplayer games that release on every platform like Rocket League, R6: Siege, Fortnite, Call of Duty, PUBG, etc?
@@jaythomas468thanks for your tips but I'm not a fan of shooters
@@Gameonysus I'll check those out, l got overcooked 2 a while back but that game was way too stressful for me :)
Leo Hd
Rocket League isn’t a shooter.
There’s also hack-and-slash games like Gauntlet, Brut@l, and Dragon’s Crown
I come from an age where I play the Atari so somebody I could just don’t know
What
Brandon Thomas She’s not a real video game player
Ky Brantley
Understandable.
Have a nice day.
@@brandonthomas6602 u too
The lack of Japanese lip sync is a massive disappointment and makes me wonder whether to play in English. With how much effort Sucker Punch have put into authenticity of what inspired them, it’s undone by this decision. They should have prioritised Japanese performance capture then given the option of an English dub.
And then the English dubs would've had the same problem... I think they were right to prioritize the English performance because the vast majority of people will play the game in English . Also, the company is an American company. Most of the people working on the game and the writers of the game are English speakers or have knowledge of English. That would've been a lot different if most writers were Japanese. So I understand your disappointment but It makes sense why the Original Version is in English.
Hellsing7747
I know that an English dub would have the same problem but reversed, I would be ok with that. Every review i’ve seen has brought up this lack of lip-sync, as a negative. I understand why SP have done it this way, but I feel it was still the wrong decision. PlayStation have huge resources and are a Japanese company so SP could have easily hired the relevant people to make good on their commitment of ‘authenticity’ to what inspired them.
Its incredibly hard and time consuming to have facial animations for two languages and for two separate scripts
Arash Tadjiki
I know that’s why I said they should have prioritised Japanese performance capture, instead of English
@@ChrisWTube well I'd say they're about 85% committed to authenticity because if they were 100%, they would have used the correct weaponry for the time period since the katana wasn't created until the 14th century while this is set in the 13th.
2:32 - THIS GUY SAID GHOST HAS BETTER SWORD TO SWORD COMBAT THAN SEKIRO.
I don't think he was including Sekiro he was talking about Open World action games and Sekiro isn't considered open world.
@@ZeroHayabusa Yep. Sekiro's combat's still better.
@@mitchellsaltzman1559 It's subjective though.... Sekiro, you have to play the way it wants you to play. I believe GOT offers a lot more freedom in combat to play how you want, which is just different.... doesn't mean it's better or worse. Just depends what you're into. I love Sekiro and the challenge and getting the rhythm for deflection.
I think Ghost has better combat than Sekiro, personally. It’s much more fun and dynamic and there are more toys/stances to play with. Sekiro’s combat is great but it feels more like a rhythm game. Anyway, Bloodborne has better combat than both of them so who cares.
@@BrianAltano I'm one of the rare FromSoft fans that prefers Sekiro to Bloodborne but I love Bloodborne as well. In terms of combat I might biased because I prefer the feudal Japan aesthetic over the gothic horror/lovecraftian aesthetic but I think the Nioh series has the best combat system of all the "souls-likes" by far although Bloodborne's combat is really fun.. I think Bloodborne's world, and atmosphere are incredible and the main reasons why it's most people favorite FromSoftware game so I understand why it's your top 3 of all time. It's in my top 10 so I love it as well but I prefer the gameplay loop of the Nioh series.
IGN: “It’s well written”.
Every other review: “The story and writing is the weakest part and forgetful”. Hmm..
I think it comes down to how you feel about Samurai stories in general. A lot of people think traditional Samurai stories are "generic" so I can see why people might not vibe with it. As someone who loves Samurai films and media in general I can see myself enjoying it.
Different strokes! I found the writing to be good but the plot to be meh. Which is to say the individual lines were good but the story they’re telling falls flat.
Good on Janet for letting Dorno know about his intro cadence. It was like he spoke a paragraph with no sentences. lol Keep up the good work, tho, JD
Lol, I just impersonate all my colleagues.
Jonathan Hornbush
I can tell the girl on the bottom right isn’t a real gamer. She complains about every game unless it’s TLOU2. I guess it wasn’t enough females and social issues in the game for her.
I can tell you’re just committed to your warped view of me considering the fact that I’ve been on this show several times praising several different games and have a rich history of plenty of games I’ve loved over the years. Also. I don’t respect anyone who claims anyone isn’t a real gamer especially when my job is literally to play games and provide game help. My job is not to lie to you and say I liked a game just so you don’t get mad at me or get your feelings hurt.
I like you ps4 fanboys. I love uncharted. All these. This game isn't good.
You haven’t played ghost
Why did IGN forced Janet to play these types of game and not only that but to do a guide for it? I think its best to give someone who enjoy a type of game to do a guide for it. Like forcing someone who doesnt like sports game to do a guide about sports game doesnt make sense.
I'm 1 of 4 people working on the guide. Contrary to what people want to believe being in video game media does not mean you only cover games you love. Ofc there are some exceptions. I'd never do a soulslike or a hardcore shooter bc I am incapable of doing them. But this game isn't too hard or too confusing for me to do. It's just not my taste. I never understand why people think I need to always be having a hobby level of fun at my job.
"Idk why Target is making Mark work the register. He does the job well but he clearly isn't having as much fun as he has when he stocks shelves."
Gameonysus
Majority of the people who work in the industry love video games. They are one of the few blessed people to be able to work in an industry that they love. Comparing a person working at IGN to a dude working at a register at target shows the lack of awareness or just tone deaf of why people doesnt think you did a good job at reviewing this game. And yes I know you not the actual reviewer for IGN but when you on a podcast like this you are all reviewing this game currently. So you saying that it doesnt matter if you enjoy the work you do as long as you able go do it an its fine? Reviewing games and giving guides to a game is hard, not saying it isnt but to say that its ok to do a guide to a type of game that you dont really enjoy is ok is not right. Im not saying that i know how IGN or other game media do their job curating but I just find it weird to have someone who doesnt have the passion for a certain type of game to do a guide for it. Thousands of people will look up for these guides for help and most will assumed those people who give out guides and tips actually give a shit about the game instead of just as a "job". I wouldnt want to try a nice meal from a chef who doesnt like cooking or doesnt put their hearts and soul into the food. Maybe you do enjoy video games but not these type of games. If you hate video games and you actually work for IGN, that to me will make alot of fans upset because thousands of gamers would die to work for a gaming media like IGN but because ign only hired people they know is hard to get in. If they found out someone who doesnt care for video games but only get the job cus of connection and just for a pay check, im sure they will be upset
@@epicwolf @epicwolf 1. I absolutely love games. It's why I do this job. I make that comparison to point out how ridiculous it is to me that someone could not understand why I would work on a guide for a game I didn't love.
2. "blessed people" look, I love what I do and I am thankful to be in my position but I think ppl have really warped views of the fact that my job is a job. It's one I bust my ass for and worked hard to get. I didn't win a raffle here.
3. I just disagree. A podcast is not a review. I did not sign up to review Ghost nor would I ever bc I am not an expert in the genre. I'm just here as someone who played the game to share my insights. I actually kinda like that I didn't have the same opinion or background bc that can be helpful to some players.
4. I also disagree with the "it's not okay to do a guide if you didn't enjoy the game" by that logic I should stop doing my job whenever I didn't like a game. Sometimes it's impossible to tell if you'll like a game and giving up bc I wasn't have fun would make me a really bad employee and teammate. On that note I am happy to answer questions on how we go about doing guides. Our core team consists of 3 staff members including myself. We get lots of video support from others and we have a great team of freelancers. In this case I was 1 of 4 ppl working on it. Ghost is the biggest game out rn. I can't say "hey boss, I think this game is good but I don't love it. I will no longer be working on this guide. My part will not be done. Goodbye." I hope that gives some context!
5. People looking at game help want the answers. I don't think the fact that I didn't have fun finding a hot spring means my info on where the hot spring is is now bad information.
6. Lastly, again. I love games. I loved TLOU 2. I spoke fondly of my time with Watch Dogs Legion. I enjoyed Dreams. I've loved a lot of games this year. I just didn't love ghost and idt that should be so upsetting AND I actually really like being open about the games i dislike that I play for work. Too many people romanticize this job and it turns them into angry mobs online who call us "ungrateful" or "fake." I love working at IGN but I would really love if people respected the work it takes and realize the job is a lot more than "loving games." I will keep driving that point home until the end of time bc I think it's so important and so misunderstood.
0/10 zelda is better -IGN
Lol I typically agree with Janets views on games, so its crazy for me to read the comments and everyone saying they wish she would not review games. I really think having a range of views on a gaming podcast is a good thing.
I would consider a lightsaber to be a sword so I have a hard time believing the combat is better than in Jedi Fallen Order.
Also the best melee combat in any game period is in The Surge.
He says about a game he's never played and has no valid opinion on.
@@ancientflames you're an idiot, at no point did I express an opinion on it. I expressed opinions on games I've played quite a lot.
Please learn to read.
@@HypeVectorPrime lol ok chief.
"The best melee combat in any game period is the Surge"
That's an opinion bud.
Keep liking your own comments too, that really boosts your credibility.
@@ancientflames yeah, I've played an absolute shit ton of the surge, so therefore my opinion is valid, I made no statement of opinion regarding a game I've never played, again please learn to read before spouting stupid shit.
You are entitled to your opinion. But Nioh is superior on those fronts. But that's the general opinion
I see lots of snowflakes can’t handle a different opinion than their own. I love a strong woman with her own mind and opinion. I respect anyone who doesn’t like her style but I really enjoy it. If this upsets you get help.
TheLoneGamr my baby looks beautiful tonight be blessed.
Love this girl for her honesty please have her back on this is so refreshing from this channel
Definitely good to listen to alternate opinions.
nah
Craig Young I enjoy women so it’s different for me
Thanks! I knew everyone was gonna be mad because I didn't like the game.
Gameonysus I appreciate you and thought you were awesome let them stay mad stay true to self.
Looks fun.
Why does IGN Steal CONTENT from other channels?
Guys, am I wrong in petitioning Janet to be Beyond host? Anyone but Jonathan should be fine
Considering she didn't seem to know what she was talking about I would say hard no.
Yeah... I’m just fed up with current host... I love Beyond but cause of him, just skipping shows after 5-10 mins
Sorry, I think JD is awesome. How could you not like him?
I’m glad you like me but I love what Dorno has done with the show. He puts in a lot of work to get dev interviews and do pick up episodes and add new segments.
Ezra Kwak it was not a review it was just my thoughts on the game.
Review: You've played this before. Wait till $19.99.
They gave it a 9. How did you come to such a dramatically different conclusion?
@@DarkSalvation22 30FPS 1st party, so half the value down to $30 then because "you've played this before" dropped another $10. Therefore, save to play once $20.
@@MrX-nh4zl First Party is inherently bad to you? Maybe my understanding of what first party implies, but to me that's never been a detracting factor. 30 FPS is disappointing, but not something I can't accept
You triggered bro? I can taste the salt. GOTY contender.
Xbox fanboy get the fuck out of here!