San Andreas has more features than GTA 5. In SA going to the gym, riding bikes instead of cars, getting into fights, eating too much or too little all mattered. Also you could have gang wars that actually mattered, bet on horse racing for easy money, etc.
Don't be blind, they just made an AWESOME game because they had to. They were new and were trying to beat competition. Just look at what they did to WWE and NBA
To be fair NBA 2k isn't simulation basketball either. Game is trash and I am tired of them! Been playing religiously since 2k10. I want NBA Live to be that GAME for the NBA franchise. Their gameplay is way more realistic currently. It has problems but for Madden I don't get all the hate for it?? I rarely play it, but it seems you guys have the same problem we do for 2K. Riddled with pay-to-win microtransactions and terrible gameplay with legacy issues. Most of the community here in NBA hates 2K. Be careful what you guys wish for because 2k is awful!
@@MonchiFan Sadly I'm on pc so I can't give it a go. I've mixed reviews on it and from various 2K youtubers shit on it as well so idk really. 2K has been ass past few years
The worst part of all of this is that EA has vast, endless resources to fix these problems, but simply choose not to do anything. That's the part that bothers me the most. It's not that they can't fix these issues - they just won't.
@@themouthofsauron7550 Presidents and both parties are nothing but pawns of the Wealthy Businessmen who truly run this country. It’s sad that people argue like little girls over which party is the best when both of them are garbage🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
The absolute saddest thing is John Madden's vision for his series was a football game that wasn't just a video game. He wanted a learning tool that taught people football concepts and fundamentals. A video game that taught you how to actually play this game like in real life. Madden has become so far from this that I would say it's the exact opposite. For shame EA, for shame.
-Bring Back Breaking the Huddles - Actually, put effort into the face scans - Don’t make the run overpowered - Don’t have punters fill in for your Quarterback - Make ultimate team fun and stop making it a cash-grabbing scheme - Fix Blocking - Improve Franchise - Build upon your career mode - Make the game more user-controlled - Make the Game less animation dependent - Have the game have the knowledge to calculate things - Add a better halftime show/show commentators like 2k - Add a pregame show/show commentators like 2k - Make players on the sidelines actually look real and not jump up and down, and point. -Make challenging plays actually work - Fix your servers - Touch up the fans a little - Make the game actually be optimized for the new consoles. -Add Cheerleaders -Add sideline reporters like 2k -Fix the ratings (your rating some players too low/too high) -Add team mascots -A little more equipment -Fix Madden pronouncing cyberface players names -Add some better rewards for winning the Super Bowl in the franchise (Rings)/make the celebration a little bit better. -Add an NFL honors ceremony -Add getting the halas or Lamar hunt trophies when winning the AFC or NFC championship -Add better Ultimate Team rewards -Add teams theme songs in the stadiums when the music is playing -Add actual fan noise from actual games, not generic fans screaming and stuff -Add Coin Toss at the beginning of the game -Add Refs back -Make some abilities less overpowered/don’t make the game ability dependent -Bring back create a team -Add More Accessories (Mouth Guards, Necklaces) -Create a cleat/design your own cleat -Fix large game glitches -Add new Announcers -Playing with college teams -Create a stadium -Fix Quarterback speeds behind the line. -My field like 2k -Get rid of the auto spike -Make long snappers a position -Create a play feature -More customizations -Add historic/All-time teams in franchise mode -Add more promos to Ultimate Team -Make Aggressive catching more effective -Fix throwing animations -Make offensive linemen better -Add custom face scans to Madden like Ufc (GameFace) -Defensive Awareness needs to be improved -Franchise should have a Player Personality Feature -Fix Defensive pursuit Angles -Physics-based gang tackling -Fix the CPU swerving from left to right while in pursuit -Tone down X-Factors -Let us add X-Factors to a player if we create a player -Let us add X-Factors to different players in the franchise -Add a radio show just like 2k at the end of a game -Add Tattoos -Make a neighborhood -Fix Running Back Speed begins the line -Make accelerating have the disadvantage of having less control -Fix the rate of fumbles (especially with Quarterbacks) -Bring back some old school playbooks -Fix the pause glitch -Make Realistic Draft -Add cultural differences between team fans -Play other positions in fact of the franchise -Bring back crowd noise that affects the game -Make the AI smarter so people can’t run the same play over and over -Add more commentators -Make madden cross-platform playable -Add more levels to the gauntlet -Fix Linebackers -Add mouthpieces -Tone down fast QB (Lamar, Vick) -Let us earn MUT Cash through challenges -Fix no-huddle -Add an edge rusher position -Punish cheaters -Add different sports networks to the scoreboard (FOX, NBC, etc) -Increase the age cap (It only goes to 40) -Let us see opponents record in the ultimate team -Make announcers try to pronounce created players names -Let us add multiple teams to go against in franchise (every other week) -Make the announcers sound more excited after a big play -Make injured players look more injured and not just kneeling on the field (Like bring out the stretcher on the field) -Dynamic/Realistic Weather in online games -Let us be the NFL commissioner in Franchise -Let us edit the conference’s (Maybe allow us to relocate teams) -Add more depth marketing and financing in franchise -Add pro bowl mini-games -Allow us to be in every position in creating a player -Let us challenge plays online -Fix it where you don’t play the same person as often -Fix the standard jersey sleeves -In online games let us use color rush jerseys -Scouting combine in franchise -Add Baggy Sleeves -Add Untucked Jerseys -Add Scrunched socks -Add Oakley Visors
Love this post man, some of the things you mentioned are things I’ve been wishing were in madden for a long time. Don’t think we’re ever gonna see it though unfortunately.
The draft in madden franchise for the last two years have been god awful. Finding anything 71+ is a miracle it feels like, which isn’t realistic. The run game is overpowered in online which isn’t realistic either. It would be fine if stats were equal, but time and time again your 90+ d-line will get pushed off the ball every play by 84 ovr lineman. New announcers would be great. Making ultimate team less of a cash grab would be great. Rewards in MUT should be better for those who don’t want to make it a cash grab. I think the crowd and fan changes would be a nice bit of change for the game. Unique crowd noises or interactions depending on the field. I agree that the animations are buggy af. One thing I think could be changed however is abilities. I think they could still make a realistic game with abilities to add a little extra dynamic to the players, but in turn not make game solely reliant on the abilities. If you don’t have abilities on your players in MUT it puts you at an extreme disadvantage to your opponent which is just ridiculous. I think making the AI smarter is also something that could be added to help improve the game. Some dude runs the same play over and over again and you keep making your adjustments, but the same guy keeps burning you, because your DB acts like he’s on his last brain cell. It would add more of a dynamic to the game, where you actually have to have a scheme to run on offense instead of running the exact play or 3 plays every time. Lastly just the basic bug fixes. Whether it be glitchy animations in the game, player faces not matching etc. Basically things that should already be fixed but won’t because EA doesn’t care.
@@JesusChrist-he7sk I never were much of a sports video game fan, especially football, but I love simulators and I'd love to get into one, a recent one, but they all suck so much ass that beside going for the old ones, I'm stuck waiting for EA to do something good, which is very unlikely, been following them since the early 2000s and they always were assholes.
You’ll probably never see this comment SoftDrink, but you are a hero in my mind. We as sports gamers need to take a stand, with you at the front, to convince EA to change Madden from the ground upwards. But sadly, the only way I see change, is for everybody to stop buying Madden. It’s easily achievable, and the day is coming as Madden keeps getting worse and worse. STOP BUYING THIS GAME PEOPLE. IT. IS. A. SCAM.
I haven’t bought a madden game since 25, and I’m starting to want to buy a new madden game ngl only because I love football. But Madden has been shit since 25
Whats great is when each madden comes out the artilce will talk about new cleats and socks and shit and my friend and I just go to the comments to see how many retards say “damn those cleats look sick” or “these unis are dope” and ignore how trash the gameplay is. Also. I am gay!
Yeah. It plays very slowly. I wish it had that ncaa 06 feel of speed. There was a difference in a 88 and a 97 speed. It’s still a difference now, but it felt like the number ratings were more relevant, consistent, accurate, and dynamic back in the mid 2000’s genres of madden and especially ncaa games
I’ve been saying this for years. EA sells the same game every year. They refresh some of the textures and colors to give it a “new” look, then market it as a “brand new” game. EA has ruined sports gaming. Look at what happened when EA had sustained competition (NBA 2K) they ended up discontinuing NBA Live because they had to ACTUALLY make improvements to the game or they would fall behind.
Only good football/soccer game left is Football Manager, hard to learn but fun to play as there are so many ways to customize it and the game has so many licenses you would never see in Fifa
I wouldn't say Ryan doesn't use facts. This guy just makes a more detailed and cohesive video. Ryan will literally make a video about every single bug on this game. They both have their place in the community that's wants a better a game.
When I was a kid I dreamed of working to make Madden games. Have a passion for both football and video games, and have experience programming, so I imagined what better job would I want. But I know better now
@@shawklan27 Well back then it would've been cool to be a part of making NFL games. Back when the love of the art was greater than the love of the money
@@unholydiver1095 I hear u that's with everything now mfs only care about how much money they can make doing something barely see ppl passionate about anything now smh
You miss being able to get on a gaming system and play a football game that is actually fun. Nowadays, you can’t do so. Madden is the ultimate waste of time and money.
Thanks for making these videos. I competed in Madden tournaments from 03-07 and sporadically after that. I stopped completely in 09. These videos are spot on. MUT has destroyed the game. It makes me so sad. Madden was such a huge part of my life. I met so many people traveling over the years and it just really pisses me off that EA has destroyed the game. Again, thanks for making these man. I really appreciate it. You did such a great job.
“ Sad thing is every year there will be a kid who is getting there first sports game . They have no history of the game and just care that i’m playing my favorite player i see on tv 📺 😔 “ #MGGA MAKE GAMES GREAT AGAIN !!!! #NFLDropEA
glad youtube recommended you part 1 was amazing. part 2 really brought it home. I agree with you 100% I played most of the games you mentioned and all the football and NCAA games from the NES to the PS4. I just cant do it anymore. Even before 2012 they were obviously going hard with the copy paste. i freekin just want to play a good NFL game!! and the quick blurb you said in one of them is true, EA can make a decent sports game in this era. why is Madden so screwed up!!
I think it would be more effective for official nfl handles to get a consistent stream of commentary versus a one time hashtag trending. Forget about EA and just go to the NFL.
I used to get Madden every year for my birthday in August and would be absolutely stoked. I think I asked around 2009-10 for my family to stop, and I’ve barely played the games since. Holy heck, I didn’t realize how bad it’s become. I still have my NFL 2K5 copy and I’ve adored that game.
I’ve been playing madden 08 on my GameCube for a while recently got madden 12 for my 360 and I still play ncaa14 they are leagues above the current madden games
@@gagewoodbury3932 I still play that game yeah I play dynasty mode but it would be cool if they had a career mode what I do is make a 70 ovr rookie that’s me a free agent and sign him to a rebuild I’m doing and see if he grows
Ok, usually when I watch videos like this I just be like “ok you wasting your time on something you can’t fix”🤷🏽♂️but as I watch this whole video, this man brong up a point about there marketing skills and boy I tell you😭💯this man pointed out all of the bullshit they do just so people will buy their game. And I play connected franchise, stuff changed just not the gameplay🤦🏽♂️I was playing madden 21 earlier when the game came out but now I just play madden 20 connected franchise. And you know the game is bad when you go to the old ones. But this was my first time hearing of this man and watching one of his videos and I think I should shout this channel out and we need to take a stand as a gaming community.#stopbuyingmadden
I'm so glad I found your channel, dude. I been saying this for a while and I got off the boat way before Ultimate Team was a thing. Glad you're calling EA out. Other sports franchises have similar problems and I cant wait to see you weigh in
My favorite part is how you describe how most of the community feels. In every video you and Ryan Moody put up explains perfectly how most people feel, at least how I feel towards EA/Madden
EA sports: as consequence to your actions we decided to only use the ctrl c and ctrl v keys when making Madden 22. People: Ummm isn’t that what you usually do??? EA sports: Exactly
I don’t believe Stockholm Syndrome is what I would use at 21:30. I would instead relate it more to the Sunken Costs Fallacy, which is the idea that when you’ve already spent so much money/effort/time on something, you force yourself to continue just to make it worth it. It’s common in gambling, which explains why MUT users feel it.
Thank you for all the work you put into these video. If we ever get a good madden game again it will be because of your videos bringing awareness to these issues.
The younger players have no idea of the features they missed out on in the early 2000's havent bought madden since 2017 and I kept that on the cheap when I use to be a game fly member.
I started playing madden on madden 13 and have every madden since then and yet the game just hasn’t ever been good, like the animation in which a linebacker closes a 10 yard gap on a wr in .2 seconds to block a pass. but watching this video has almost convinced me to go out and buy a xbox 360 or PS3 so that i can play these games. they seem so much better than what i’ve grown up with.
@@benjihayman1377 That's because they were so much better. lol I grew up playing Madden since '98. And I personally saw the decline as I bought the game every year. Everything in these 2 videos is 100% true. If you have a PC I recommend getting an emulator and picking up All-Pro Football 2k8.
@@benjihayman1377 before you do that I believe softdink has another video on his channel where he briefly discusses emulators which basically trick your pc into thinking its a ps2 so you can play the old maddens with an Xbox one controller, better graphics, and updated rosters all without paying for a whole console, just gotta get the old games
Simping is a defensive mechanism that helps people deal with criticism leveled against what they like. Denying the shortcomings of their favorite things is easier than accepting them.
Madden simps: "All you do is hate on Madden, try something new for once." Normies: "All you do is defend Madden, why don't YOU try something new for once."
Dude you literally don't have enough subs for your awesome content. I like a lot of video games, mostly RPG's, FPS, open world, etc. But I am also a huge sports fan, and these games nowadays are nothing compared to what I played when I was a kid. Great Job.
It seems like they are going more towards what the team or your player does off the field rather than actual gameplay and people aren't saying anything. I'm glad that your bringing this up. Hopefully they'll chang ees this and start making the gameplay more realistic rather than what kind of sponsors they have!!!
The glitch with the drafted players faces is so frustrating, like how hard is it to just double check that they are matching? Also you can draft players who don’t even have a picture, just a blank card
I think I love you bro. Thank you for making this video. I too got banned 3 years ago from the EA forums for complaining about Madden. I even have a couple of short videos if you ever need them for any reason on my very small and just personal channel of blocking...or lack there of.
WOW you've earned my sub SoftDrink. I've watched a lot of RyanMoody videos in my day, and I have owned Madden 98 -2015, then 20. This video and your prior one are spot on and why I stopped buying these, I THANK you. Maybe one day we can enjoy getting that new yearly madden again and be excited about trying to make our favorite team a dynasty in Franchise mode, or get back to seeing our created superstar's beat-down apartment transform into a multi-millionaire dollar loft. Look forward to seeing more content.
My dude, you have changed my perspective on Madden COMPLETELY, im literally sitting here thinking if I should buy Madden 23, or something like Sunday Rivals, thank you so much my dude for this video, keep up the great work!
Your videos are absolute the truth! Xbox owned their own NFL title . NFL Fever, they hosted a madden like tournament in 2004 . Then with ESPN 2k5 EA truly felt the pressure. EA has destroyed the football line, and new generations will never know what they are missing
Except the NFL, like EA, only cares about one thing: how much money the game makes them. Ultimate Team is incredibly profitable, and any real effort put into anything other than making that feature MORE profitable is a net loss for both EA and the NFL.
Thank you for the trip down madden sucks life. I remember back in the day I had so much fun with Madden 02, and the expansion draft. I remember playing college football and porting it over to Madden. I became that guy who bought the game every year, and played it to the point of breaking the game. I slowed down after the last college game, as what was the point of having fake drafting players. 15 to 18, I bought but got rid of it. I moved on from Madden when 20 hit. Over the years, I watched a good game give away to greed, becoming a poor product. Watching the modes change, losing allot that made Franchise good, I found that EA stopped caring about the consumers. The gameplay alone is insane in moments when you play well and the the AI does something not possible to every happen. Best part that always sucks, is the idea to have a competitive AI, as I was kicking the computer by 48 points, only to see my team suck in the second half and lose by 10. I understand football, as a former player, and spent time learning the coaching to know that Madden is lacking true Football. Madden football makes the name Madden a sour mouth, while the living legend is wondering why as the greed took over football. Giving that I am writing this, I am one of those people pushing for EA to drop the game and let someone do it better. I am also one of those guys who went back to a ps2 and 3 to play the best versions of the game, both college and Madden,, while still playing Ncaa football 14 revamped mode....which is far better then Madden in so many ways. Thank you for speaking for the people who need a voice to shout out to the EA people. We must stand together. Thank you for your time.
I used to love NFL 2K5. I didn't know about the history, but I always found Madden unsatisfying as a sporting simulation. I prefer Cyberball for pure arcade sports. :;
I couldn't care less about sports yet your Madden videos are still so engaging to me. I'm glad I don't play sports games because if I did I'd be super bummed over the complete lack of options out there now. What EA and NFL are doing is enraging and the EA Sports games are the epitome of everything wrong with modern triple a games.
I’ve had every madden since 96 on sega and man this video hit a chord man. I’m older don’t play much anymore but the game play is definitely stale glitchy and the game lacks depth. People don’t even know EA original saying wasn’t “it’s in the game” it actually use to be “ if it’s in the game, it’s in the game” they’ve been taking things out of the game for years, sometimes they’ll bring a feature back pretending it’s new when in reality it’s a lesser version of a feature they once took away. Great video dude!
they really should market this game as an ARCADE NFL football games, with The Yard, Superstar KO, X FACTORS this game is not a simulation football game its an ARCADE GAME
Great work on part 1 and part 2. I knew about some of the features that have been lost, like play creation and custom teams, but I didn't realize exactly how many features were lost over the years that I would personally love to have in a football game. Not to mention the features in other football games that madden never incorporated. There's still room for a truly great football game, but I don't think EA will ever make it with their monopoly on the sport in video games. I recently got a huge hit of nostalgia & decided to pick up Madden 22 after about a decade since buying my last madden game. I really enjoy the arcade style play with the x-factors and big plays, but that's probably all after about 50 hours of playing. What really got me excited for the game (and ultimately disappointed me the most) was Face of the Franchise (FF). I haven't seen RP that bad since high school English class when my classmates had to read roles out loud for Romeo and Juliet. Cut scenes where the animation doesn't match the intensity of the voice, animated characters silently mumbling to themselves before and after delivering their line, watching the back of the head of the person delivering the line. Scenes where half the conversation is voiced, and the other half gets a couple words, then plain text. Scenes where if you want to skip to the next line of dialogue you find yourself at the end of the conversation or making a choice with the context provided being what's on screen. I could go on. This mode feels like it was literally an afterthought. They had the opportunity to provide an amazing experience, but instead I'm stuck playing a game with rp that removes you from any immersion, is unimpressive, and is ultimately a HUGE disappointment. My experience with this kind of mode extends to the time(s) I played The Show '19 RTTS mode, and I remember having a positive experience. I don't think the rp was anything to write home about, but it wasn't that bad. I don't even care for baseball and I would almost rather play that mode over madden's FF. Hell, if there were a game out there with comparable arcade style play and better RP I might actually get it as soon as I could afford it.
I'm very late to this video, but thank you for putting into the words the disappointment with buying Madden 4 years ago after not playing it (too busy and broke to afford gen 5 consoles) for 8 years. I havent bought it since because of my complete disinterest in what it had become, and you put it into words! Thank you! I hope, though I am sure I will be equally disappointed, they dont ruin the next NCAA football, which was my preference of the two franchises when they peaked. Thanks Again!
Madden really needs to separate Ultimate team from the base game. Ultimate team should be free and standalone from Madden. Only then the problems would be solved.
@@SH-vn6zh by time you complete the flea flicker you would be sacked by ai bc the only “difficulty” in this game is making your offensive line complete dogshit and the ai on offense just throw check downs
@@TheDozin1 i play the game because i enjoy playing lol.... i couldnt care if "franchise mode" has had no updates. And if you really care about franchise mode why dont you go play madden and 2k 05 when the game was actually "good"
I've been playing Madden off and on since college (old school gamer..been playing since Madden '98). The game HAS changed and everything you've discussed in your videos (yes, both) have been spot on. Every time I play Madden, I become more and more aware of how broken it is (I wisely didn't buy Madden 21 after looking at the reviews). Given that, I find myself playing other games like NBA2K and the MLB the Show. It's wild how folks don't remember how good Madden used to be. Sad, really.
This is a great/wonderful truthful review of Madden. I've been a loyal Madden purchaser/gift receiver since the game came out for the PS1. I'm a hardcore franchise guy. I've noticed it was a waste of money after Madden 25. It's extremely frustrating they push the same crap year in and year out. I wish NFL 2k series was still around. Without competition the game will not get any better. They've lost my business. I'm alright playing Madden 13, I believe it's the last game where you can assign defensive players to a specific player. Keep up the good work, hopefully one day EA will make the changes necessary. However, I'm not holding my breath.
I’m wondering if we could sue them for false advertising. They claim that the game is sim, but it is clearly arcade or competitive at best. Neither of those is simulation. By the way, another well researched video softdrink. We’ll get the game we deserve one day.
I’m pretty sure you could get some gameplay footage of shitty looking game play you could at least make it so the NFL has to open the license of to some competition. A law suit against EA for making a truely awful simulation football game may make them re-evaluate the companies that want to be in the business with the NFL. We would get some really amazing looking and playing games if they opened it back up. Maybe a company that won’t pay the most for the license, but could build royalties into the contract that would make the NFL more money in the long run because the game would sell like hot cakes. Instead of EA getting flithy rich at the expense of the NFL’s reputation. They are only paying a fraction of what they themselves are racking in. There are ways out there that the NFL can pull in more with a different company. They just need to seek it out instead of doing what’s easy instead of what is best for all parties, the NFL, the gaming company, and most importantly the fans, whom these two entities could not exist without. Whew…
It's fitting that I stumbled across this video. I WAS a Madden-lifer. I grew up with Madden. Madden '95 was my entry into the franchise, and I bought every Madden until Madden '15. I used to go wait in line at midnight on launch day. I loved the game! You brought up 2k5 a lot, and while I enjoyed the extra stuff from that game, I preferred the gameplay and franchise mode of Madden. I don't know when UT started, but that's when I stopped playing. It became clear early on that UT was the future of the game and nothing else. I stopped playing most games all together. However, for some reason... not sure why... I bought Madden 21 a week ago, New Year's Eve to be exact, and it's nothing like I remember. UT took over as I thought, and I became frustrated right away when I first downloaded the game and couldn't jump right in and play. I had to create my avatar. Franchise mode is nowhere near what it used to be, I attempted to make a trade, and it was near impossible! I'm sad that I jumped back into this game and gave EA my $29. The funny thing is that it wouldn't take much work to improve the game. While you listed the 89 things they removed or never included, I don't think they need to bring back all 89. Improve the engine first and foremost. While I want a deep franchise mode, most of the time, I just want a fun, playable game with good mechanics. It's frustrating that running the ball is almost the most clunky thing about playing a game. I want to hit the wide-open hole without an unnecessary juke. My 95-speed receiver should blow past that 87-speed corner or slower linebacker, but no separation. I've been able to fix this a little by adjusting sliders, but I shouldn't have to do that. I think the NFL would be well suited by dropping EA or opening competition again. Are they blind to see how well the 2k franchises are doing... other than WWE games? However, you are dealing with two HUGE companies that honestly don't care about the fan/user; it's all about the mighty $$. This is all fine and good, especially when you have people that will buy the game based on brand recognition alone. When you're throwing around billions of dollars, it's hard to warrant any real change. While I'd like to think the NFL would consider this, but Madden is making them a lot of money, AND the NFL has proven to care about their fans just as much as Madden does. Until we say, "it doesn't matter if it's the only NFL game on the market, it sucks, so I'm not buying it," no real change will come. To get huge companies to listen, you have to hit them in their wallets. Awesome series on this once good franchise! Well done!
You have proven many facts to me with your video I watched both of them. I agree Madden needs some competition to help make better games. It's the same game every year nothing changes but the players drafted. I have been playing Madden since 2001 on the PlayStation 2 I never realized how many things got taken out of it over the yrs. I support your overall complaints on the game.
Check this out. For those who don't know, in ESPN NFL 2K5 if you run a no audible no huddle, the CPU will adjust to everything you did in the previous play and change up their defense to prevent you from doing it again. In 2K5 you had to look at patterns the AI or even your friends did. And adjust. I played a Patriots vs dolphins game yesterday. And the dolphins mostly went, run run, long pass, if not by 3 yards left. On defense they usually did man coverage. Zone if I no huddle after a pass And blitz if I no huddle after a run. Just tiny details like that that would make Madden just a bit more competitive and more strategic. Offline and online.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:18 Gameplay
09:46 Bugs/Glitches
12:30 Marketing
19:32 "Madden Simps"
22:02 Closing Thoughts
First
I stop playing madden because of you
I I’m a 12 year old
I do not play Ultimate team
I I’m a franchise player
Even gta San Andreas got more features than the new madden
GTA San Andreas was a very good game I liked how you murdered everyone who was a bitch
Than*
damn cj
San Andreas has more features than GTA 5. In SA going to the gym, riding bikes instead of cars, getting into fights, eating too much or too little all mattered. Also you could have gang wars that actually mattered, bet on horse racing for easy money, etc.
Mfing super mario bros has more features
U can tell this guy cares about his videos the video quality 10/10
Facts.
He cares way more than EA ever did
No cap
He makes such good videos. Hopefully everyone watched his missing features from Madden video not too long ago
Facts. The time and dedication really shows.
It feels like the 2k creators actually had fun and wanted to make an expansive gaming experience when making their football game
You are right. I think 2K creators actually like football unlike Madden creators.
Which makes it hurt even more how much 2K (as we say in Australia) "Got the Sh#t end of the stick"
Don't be blind, they just made an AWESOME game because they had to. They were new and were trying to beat competition. Just look at what they did to WWE and NBA
I think 2k should be E.A and E.A should be 2k (and what I mean is 2k should be making the games with EA in the dust like 2k actually is)
so that way every year it is a football 2k game rather than a Madden game
Ea fanboys: Madden isn't meant to be realistic!
EA: Madden is the only place to find simulation football.
I hope no ones ever said that 😂
Lol
To be fair NBA 2k isn't simulation basketball either. Game is trash and I am tired of them! Been playing religiously since 2k10. I want NBA Live to be that GAME for the NBA franchise. Their gameplay is way more realistic currently. It has problems but for Madden I don't get all the hate for it?? I rarely play it, but it seems you guys have the same problem we do for 2K. Riddled with pay-to-win microtransactions and terrible gameplay with legacy issues. Most of the community here in NBA hates 2K. Be careful what you guys wish for because 2k is awful!
@@shoblizz21 I love 2K21 on next gen
@@MonchiFan Sadly I'm on pc so I can't give it a go. I've mixed reviews on it and from various 2K youtubers shit on it as well so idk really. 2K has been ass past few years
The worst part of all of this is that EA has vast, endless resources to fix these problems, but simply choose not to do anything. That's the part that bothers me the most. It's not that they can't fix these issues - they just won't.
You just described America in a nutshell.
EA reminds me of me in school
@@encycl07pedia- lol that aged poorly
@@themouthofsauron7550 Presidents and both parties are nothing but pawns of the Wealthy Businessmen who truly run this country. It’s sad that people argue like little girls over which party is the best when both of them are garbage🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
at the end of the day consumers are more to blame.
The absolute saddest thing is John Madden's vision for his series was a football game that wasn't just a video game. He wanted a learning tool that taught people football concepts and fundamentals. A video game that taught you how to actually play this game like in real life. Madden has become so far from this that I would say it's the exact opposite. For shame EA, for shame.
E...A... SPORTS: "It used to be in the game."
E....A... sports
We released that
EA Now: E...A... SPORTS, F*** THIS S***
Amennnnnnnnnnn
lol
E A SPORTS. What a shame
-Bring Back Breaking the Huddles
- Actually, put effort into the face scans
- Don’t make the run overpowered
- Don’t have punters fill in for your Quarterback
- Make ultimate team fun and stop making it a cash-grabbing scheme
- Fix Blocking
- Improve Franchise
- Build upon your career mode
- Make the game more user-controlled
- Make the Game less animation dependent
- Have the game have the knowledge to calculate things
- Add a better halftime show/show commentators like 2k
- Add a pregame show/show commentators like 2k
- Make players on the sidelines actually look real and not jump up and down, and point.
-Make challenging plays actually work
- Fix your servers
- Touch up the fans a little
- Make the game actually be optimized for the new consoles.
-Add Cheerleaders
-Add sideline reporters like 2k
-Fix the ratings (your rating some players too low/too high)
-Add team mascots
-A little more equipment
-Fix Madden pronouncing cyberface players names
-Add some better rewards for winning the Super Bowl in the franchise (Rings)/make the celebration a little bit better.
-Add an NFL honors ceremony
-Add getting the halas or Lamar hunt trophies when winning the AFC or NFC championship
-Add better Ultimate Team rewards
-Add teams theme songs in the stadiums when the music is playing
-Add actual fan noise from actual games, not generic fans screaming and stuff
-Add Coin Toss at the beginning of the game
-Add Refs back
-Make some abilities less overpowered/don’t make the game ability dependent
-Bring back create a team
-Add More Accessories (Mouth Guards, Necklaces)
-Create a cleat/design your own cleat
-Fix large game glitches
-Add new Announcers
-Playing with college teams
-Create a stadium
-Fix Quarterback speeds behind the line.
-My field like 2k
-Get rid of the auto spike
-Make long snappers a position
-Create a play feature
-More customizations
-Add historic/All-time teams in franchise mode
-Add more promos to Ultimate Team
-Make Aggressive catching more effective
-Fix throwing animations
-Make offensive linemen better
-Add custom face scans to Madden like Ufc (GameFace)
-Defensive Awareness needs to be improved
-Franchise should have a Player Personality Feature
-Fix Defensive pursuit Angles
-Physics-based gang tackling
-Fix the CPU swerving from left to right while in pursuit
-Tone down X-Factors
-Let us add X-Factors to a player if we create a player
-Let us add X-Factors to different players in the franchise
-Add a radio show just like 2k at the end of a game
-Add Tattoos
-Make a neighborhood
-Fix Running Back Speed begins the line
-Make accelerating have the disadvantage of having less control
-Fix the rate of fumbles (especially with Quarterbacks)
-Bring back some old school playbooks
-Fix the pause glitch
-Make Realistic Draft
-Add cultural differences between team fans
-Play other positions in fact of the franchise
-Bring back crowd noise that affects the game
-Make the AI smarter so people can’t run the same play over and over
-Add more commentators
-Make madden cross-platform playable
-Add more levels to the gauntlet
-Fix Linebackers
-Add mouthpieces
-Tone down fast QB (Lamar, Vick)
-Let us earn MUT Cash through challenges
-Fix no-huddle
-Add an edge rusher position
-Punish cheaters
-Add different sports networks to the scoreboard (FOX, NBC, etc)
-Increase the age cap (It only goes to 40)
-Let us see opponents record in the ultimate team
-Make announcers try to pronounce created players names
-Let us add multiple teams to go against in franchise (every other week)
-Make the announcers sound more excited after a big play
-Make injured players look more injured and not just kneeling on the field (Like bring out the stretcher on the field)
-Dynamic/Realistic Weather in online games
-Let us be the NFL commissioner in Franchise
-Let us edit the conference’s (Maybe allow us to relocate teams)
-Add more depth marketing and financing in franchise
-Add pro bowl mini-games
-Allow us to be in every position in creating a player
-Let us challenge plays online
-Fix it where you don’t play the same person as often
-Fix the standard jersey sleeves
-In online games let us use color rush jerseys
-Scouting combine in franchise
-Add Baggy Sleeves
-Add Untucked Jerseys
-Add Scrunched socks
-Add Oakley Visors
Love this post man, some of the things you mentioned are things I’ve been wishing were in madden for a long time. Don’t think we’re ever gonna see it though unfortunately.
@@josephlaeger6473 Which ones?
@@sambridgers9543 prob all tbh
The draft in madden franchise for the last two years have been god awful. Finding anything 71+ is a miracle it feels like, which isn’t realistic. The run game is overpowered in online which isn’t realistic either. It would be fine if stats were equal, but time and time again your 90+ d-line will get pushed off the ball every play by 84 ovr lineman. New announcers would be great. Making ultimate team less of a cash grab would be great. Rewards in MUT should be better for those who don’t want to make it a cash grab. I think the crowd and fan changes would be a nice bit of change for the game. Unique crowd noises or interactions depending on the field. I agree that the animations are buggy af. One thing I think could be changed however is abilities. I think they could still make a realistic game with abilities to add a little extra dynamic to the players, but in turn not make game solely reliant on the abilities. If you don’t have abilities on your players in MUT it puts you at an extreme disadvantage to your opponent which is just ridiculous. I think making the AI smarter is also something that could be added to help improve the game. Some dude runs the same play over and over again and you keep making your adjustments, but the same guy keeps burning you, because your DB acts like he’s on his last brain cell. It would add more of a dynamic to the game, where you actually have to have a scheme to run on offense instead of running the exact play or 3 plays every time. Lastly just the basic bug fixes. Whether it be glitchy animations in the game, player faces not matching etc. Basically things that should already be fixed but won’t because EA doesn’t care.
@@josephlaeger6473 Its crazy how many things we can come up with that we know ea sees these comments and they dont give 2 shits
My son couldn’t believe me when I told him you could actually put your own sounds into stadiums. I think that was 2k.
2k5 on Xbox, I had my own music playing. That used to be normal. Sigh
@@JesusChrist-he7sk I never were much of a sports video game fan, especially football, but I love simulators and I'd love to get into one, a recent one, but they all suck so much ass that beside going for the old ones, I'm stuck waiting for EA to do something good, which is very unlikely, been following them since the early 2000s and they always were assholes.
You’ll probably never see this comment SoftDrink, but you are a hero in my mind. We as sports gamers need to take a stand, with you at the front, to convince EA to change Madden from the ground upwards. But sadly, the only way I see change, is for everybody to stop buying Madden. It’s easily achievable, and the day is coming as Madden keeps getting worse and worse. STOP BUYING THIS GAME PEOPLE. IT. IS. A. SCAM.
My thoughts exactly #NFLdropEA #Maddenboycott
Or simply just allow to be selling simultaneously
Madden NFL
And NFL 2k
Never gonna happen
I haven’t bought a madden game since 25, and I’m starting to want to buy a new madden game ngl only because I love football. But Madden has been shit since 25
This is the first year I did not buy madden, the ratings were trash and so was the gameplay when I played it for free on free weekend
I finally broke the cycle of abuse. First time in decades I haven't bought the game, and I'm not going back.
Welcome to normal society friend.
We still on for some Madden 22 tonight?
@@Dr.SamLoomis you know it, Loomy
Madden players are like battered housewives.
Bottom line: when there is no competition everyone loses
Well except EA, they get their pockets lined with all that $$$
The fact we got excited about mouthguards is sad.
True. Not only is the bar for us players super low, but we even get excited for the bare minimum.
Whats great is when each madden comes out the artilce will talk about new cleats and socks and shit and my friend and I just go to the comments to see how many retards say “damn those cleats look sick” or “these unis are dope” and ignore how trash the gameplay is.
Also. I am gay!
@@austinclarke1724 wtg here is your participation trophy!
Bahahahahaha
Man don’t get me started on madden gameplay it is so slow and unreleastic it just a pain to play.. i do not like it to say the least
Today my team gave up a 70 yard run and then started celebrating
One time my punt returner just slid of the field and I started at the 3 yard line when I could have started at the 30
Yeah. It plays very slowly. I wish it had that ncaa 06 feel of speed. There was a difference in a 88 and a 97 speed. It’s still a difference now, but it felt like the number ratings were more relevant, consistent, accurate, and dynamic back in the mid 2000’s genres of madden and especially ncaa games
@@pandamanytss9784 i love when a punt rolls into the end zone and the punter is so excited with the double fist pump
@@YardratZ my 92 speed 99 acceleration dj moore was caught by an o-lineman with 30 speed. There was 20 yards between us and I was sprinting
I’ve been saying this for years. EA sells the same game every year. They refresh some of the textures and colors to give it a “new” look, then market it as a “brand new” game. EA has ruined sports gaming. Look at what happened when EA had sustained competition (NBA 2K) they ended up discontinuing NBA Live because they had to ACTUALLY make improvements to the game or they would fall behind.
EA Sports: If it's in the game, it ain't in ours
I feel ya guys. EA killed the beautiful sport for us soccer fans. That was long before American football. EA kills everything they touch.
Ruined my favorite sports game to promote gambling to children.
Only good football/soccer game left is Football Manager, hard to learn but fun to play as there are so many ways to customize it and the game has so many licenses you would never see in Fifa
"It is never too late to turn back into a normal person" might be the best line in this video 😂
"I WILL welcome you" lol
He's turning into fact filled and methodical thinking Ryan Moody.
I wouldn't say Ryan doesn't use facts.
This guy just makes a more detailed and cohesive video.
Ryan will literally make a video about every single bug on this game.
They both have their place in the community that's wants a better a game.
@@jakemartin344 he has "your" attention. 😅
@@jakemartin344 Found the madden simp
@@jakemartin344 I bet you think Madden is a good simulation football game...
@@jakemartin344 Is that what you got out of this video? “Attention seeker”? It’s like you didn’t even watch the video.
Damn bro. you killed it. You said pretty much everything I've been talking about for nearly a decade now. EA is truly terrible.
I have actually been to EA studios before and I will tell you they don’t care
When I was a kid I dreamed of working to make Madden games. Have a passion for both football and video games, and have experience programming, so I imagined what better job would I want.
But I know better now
@@unholydiver1095 growing makes us realise that some of the things we admire are just shallow
@@shawklan27 Well back then it would've been cool to be a part of making NFL games. Back when the love of the art was greater than the love of the money
@@unholydiver1095 I hear u that's with everything now mfs only care about how much money they can make doing something barely see ppl passionate about anything now smh
they have a fuckin ball pit in the war room. come on now if that doesnt say it all. wtf does?
I miss 2k football and old maddens. Who remember the skills challenges in madden 08
You miss being able to get on a gaming system and play a football game that is actually fun. Nowadays, you can’t do so. Madden is the ultimate waste of time and money.
The skill challenges was so fun
They were the best!!!!
The worst part is that a qb gets rocket boosters when he runs past the line of scrimmage
Lmao
Ryan and Soft drink have changed my views of madden drastically with their videos
Ryanmmody21
Thanks for making these videos. I competed in Madden tournaments from 03-07 and sporadically after that. I stopped completely in 09. These videos are spot on. MUT has destroyed the game. It makes me so sad. Madden was such a huge part of my life. I met so many people traveling over the years and it just really pisses me off that EA has destroyed the game. Again, thanks for making these man. I really appreciate it. You did such a great job.
Bought one madden game in the last 10 years. I miss it, but I remember fully why I stopped buying it. Well done on the video. You nailed it
Was it 11 or 12 that you bought?
Same here
“ Sad thing is every year there will be a kid who is getting there first sports game . They have no history of the game and just care that i’m playing my favorite player i see on tv 📺 😔 “ #MGGA MAKE GAMES GREAT AGAIN !!!! #NFLDropEA
SOFTDRINKS, U R AMAZING. Never stop making those videos 👌👍
glad youtube recommended you
part 1 was amazing.
part 2 really brought it home.
I agree with you 100%
I played most of the games you mentioned and all the football and NCAA games from the NES to the PS4. I just cant do it anymore. Even before 2012 they were obviously going hard with the copy paste. i freekin just want to play a good NFL game!! and the quick blurb you said in one of them is true, EA can make a decent sports game in this era. why is Madden so screwed up!!
Can we plz get a hastag to go on trending again
#maddenisascam
I think it would be more effective for official nfl handles to get a consistent stream of commentary versus a one time hashtag trending. Forget about EA and just go to the NFL.
#nfldropeasign2k
@@Rawartt Not even sign to one company. That’s why Madden is where it is today, because of no competition.
You put more effort into this video than EA has done the last decade of madden games. You got a new sub 👍
Same.
I used to get Madden every year for my birthday in August and would be absolutely stoked. I think I asked around 2009-10 for my family to stop, and I’ve barely played the games since. Holy heck, I didn’t realize how bad it’s become. I still have my NFL 2K5 copy and I’ve adored that game.
These videos make me wanna bust out the old maddens
Same
I’ve been playing madden 08 on my GameCube for a while recently got madden 12 for my 360 and I still play ncaa14 they are leagues above the current madden games
I’ve been playing NHL 06 on my GameCube, the game is really good and my only complaint is no career mode
@@gagewoodbury3932 I still play that game yeah I play dynasty mode but it would be cool if they had a career mode what I do is make a 70 ovr rookie that’s me a free agent and sign him to a rebuild I’m doing and see if he grows
Fucking do it dude. Return all maddens after 15 to game stop get you 50cent for all 6 games.
Ok, usually when I watch videos like this I just be like “ok you wasting your time on something you can’t fix”🤷🏽♂️but as I watch this whole video, this man brong up a point about there marketing skills and boy I tell you😭💯this man pointed out all of the bullshit they do just so people will buy their game. And I play connected franchise, stuff changed just not the gameplay🤦🏽♂️I was playing madden 21 earlier when the game came out but now I just play madden 20 connected franchise. And you know the game is bad when you go to the old ones. But this was my first time hearing of this man and watching one of his videos and I think I should shout this channel out and we need to take a stand as a gaming community.#stopbuyingmadden
I agree, I am ranked in the top 3% in madden, the game is trash. I have not touched Madden in 3 months because it is Arcady.
If you want real Madden, pick up 05 and 06. Madden 20 is awful.
I'm so glad I found your channel, dude. I been saying this for a while and I got off the boat way before Ultimate Team was a thing. Glad you're calling EA out. Other sports franchises have similar problems and I cant wait to see you weigh in
Bugs: _exists_
EA Sports: *It's in the game!*
Right people make fun of it. Just cause a bugggg gosh
@@Dwdars man yall delusional
@@suckafreeglobetrotters1297 jsusyxxy
@@Dwdars I have no idea what that supposed to mean 🤦♂️
Lmao
I’ve been playing madden 15 and I refuse to buy the new games until something changes
That’s what I like to here.
I got 16 and I gotta prove my username right
@@oddoperator3524 lol
My cousin has only madden 14,15, and 16.
I play 20 on PC with a ton of mods to make it somewhat realistic. Even still it isn't enough for me. Downloading APF 2K8 right now
I love how the tackling animations in modern madden games sometimes look like skate 3 when you touch a railing and you just go limp.
Ikr lmao
My favorite part is how you describe how most of the community feels. In every video you and Ryan Moody put up explains perfectly how most people feel, at least how I feel towards EA/Madden
Tbh when I saw the title I got pretty nervous if something bad will happen to me.
🤦♂️🤣
EA sports: as consequence to your actions we decided to only use the ctrl c and ctrl v keys when making Madden 22.
People: Ummm isn’t that what you usually do???
EA sports: Exactly
anyone else remember the bug in NBA2K whenever the losing team would go celebrate with the winning team
Thank you for your voice. I've been saying so much of this for 12 years, it seriously feels like we're on an island.
I don’t believe Stockholm Syndrome is what I would use at 21:30. I would instead relate it more to the Sunken Costs Fallacy, which is the idea that when you’ve already spent so much money/effort/time on something, you force yourself to continue just to make it worth it. It’s common in gambling, which explains why MUT users feel it.
Thank you for all the work you put into these video. If we ever get a good madden game again it will be because of your videos bringing awareness to these issues.
the spors game genre needs so much more of this. grew up on it and its killing me wacthing corpos kill it
Yea man it really is sad
@Kristian Mijic wtf man I think you know what he is talking about. If you do then talk about what he said not his spelling
@Kristian Mijic oh nevermind then
The younger players have no idea of the features they missed out on in the early 2000's havent bought madden since 2017 and I kept that on the cheap when I use to be a game fly member.
I started playing madden on madden 13 and have every madden since then and yet the game just hasn’t ever been good, like the animation in which a linebacker closes a 10 yard gap on a wr in .2 seconds to block a pass. but watching this video has almost convinced me to go out and buy a xbox 360 or PS3 so that i can play these games. they seem so much better than what i’ve grown up with.
@@benjihayman1377 That's because they were so much better. lol I grew up playing Madden since '98. And I personally saw the decline as I bought the game every year. Everything in these 2 videos is 100% true. If you have a PC I recommend getting an emulator and picking up All-Pro Football 2k8.
@@benjihayman1377 before you do that I believe softdink has another video on his channel where he briefly discusses emulators which basically trick your pc into thinking its a ps2 so you can play the old maddens with an Xbox one controller, better graphics, and updated rosters all without paying for a whole console, just gotta get the old games
@@vulkeg damn it i should've read you full comment before I wrote that lol
Been playing since madden 97... things have gotten much better. Much much better. Other than missing John maddens commentary it was classic...
Boom!
Simping is a defensive mechanism that helps people deal with criticism leveled against what they like. Denying the shortcomings of their favorite things is easier than accepting them.
Thank you for being one of the few to voice how atrocious sports titles have become. I miss EA BIG
they defend it bc they need to justify the $500 they've spent on it
People give me a headache when they defend this game.
Thought you meant EA at first.
Hahahha geez. You are not lying. Talk about buyer's remorse....yikes.
Thank you for being bold and speaking what I have been thinking for years. I have not played or bought Madden in 15 years. So on point with your post!
MY MAN KIRK COUSINS BE HURDLING PEOPLE
he do got hops tho lol
EA put out great realistic gameplay and a in-depth franchise mode this year
(2006)
Thanks for the funny joke TJ Hockenson much appreciated
Madden simps: "All you do is hate on Madden, try something new for once."
Normies: "All you do is defend Madden, why don't YOU try something new for once."
I doubt Madden simps are ever going to try anything new. They're content with playing the exact same game every year.
This is the reboot we all wanted. Go away Mulan and Animaniacs
Whoa, you leave Animaniacs out of this lol
Hol up
The Animaniacs reboot is good, like it’s not even a reboot but more like a fourth season after a twenty year hiatus
@@CommandoCQC i like animaniacs too but wouldn't you agree this is better?
@@warlordofbritannia Good? Nah its OK. You love it due to nostalgia.
@@ChillConservative2k15
Lol that’s the most pretentious thing I’ve heard in a while - “you only like it because nostalgia”
can we just talk about how players just celebrate in front of walking random players after a sack
The fact that Madden still doesn’t have strip sack animations is sad
Dude you literally don't have enough subs for your awesome content. I like a lot of video games, mostly RPG's, FPS, open world, etc. But I am also a huge sports fan, and these games nowadays are nothing compared to what I played when I was a kid. Great Job.
The problem is that everyone who complains about the game still buys it every year. I stoped buying it after 18. I don't regret it.
Agreed I stopped in 17 I think or 16 it don’t matter haha but I look at game play differences but nothing changes so I don’t buy it
@@justenknight4099 17, 16 ....same game lol
I stopped at 16. I was gifted 18, and it was complete garbage even compared to 16.
I stopped in 2009 and just bought 2018 because it was 15 dollars.... Worst mistake I made... I promised myself not to do that again.
16
I’ve been waiting for part two yay!
It seems like they are going more towards what the team or your player does off the field rather than actual gameplay and people aren't saying anything. I'm glad that your bringing this up. Hopefully they'll chang ees this and start making the gameplay more realistic rather than what kind of sponsors they have!!!
softdrinktv: EA dosen't want you to watch this video
me: watches the video
I honestly feel this video on a visceral level. Well done
This is an Oscar winning video. Great work!!!!!
The glitch with the drafted players faces is so frustrating, like how hard is it to just double check that they are matching? Also you can draft players who don’t even have a picture, just a blank card
Any video that EA doesn't want us watching is a must see.
I think I love you bro. Thank you for making this video. I too got banned 3 years ago from the EA forums for complaining about Madden. I even have a couple of short videos if you ever need them for any reason on my very small and just personal channel of blocking...or lack there of.
Really appreciate the hours of research you put in to these videos. Hopefully people will gain some type of perspective from this.
WOW you've earned my sub SoftDrink. I've watched a lot of RyanMoody videos in my day, and I have owned Madden 98 -2015, then 20. This video and your prior one are spot on and why I stopped buying these, I THANK you. Maybe one day we can enjoy getting that new yearly madden again and be excited about trying to make our favorite team a dynasty in Franchise mode, or get back to seeing our created superstar's beat-down apartment transform into a multi-millionaire dollar loft. Look forward to seeing more content.
My dude, you have changed my perspective on Madden COMPLETELY, im literally sitting here thinking if I should buy Madden 23, or something like Sunday Rivals, thank you so much my dude for this video, keep up the great work!
Can we get 2k to make a college football game...screw the nfl
If like to see a college football game. Licensed with big teams like Clemson and Alabama, and all the D1 teams
College football players dont even get paid who even nfl is better
I don’t care if it’s EA I just wants a new NCAA football game
Just get this mod for NCAA14 www.reddit.com/r/NCAAFBseries/comments/grnh6a/college_football_revamped_a_complete_modding_guide/?
@@itsdesean yes they do liar
The one glitch with the office in the middle of the field legit question how does that even happen?
Teleported
This video needs so many more views. Share this video to literally every madden gamer, EA has to be exposed on this.
Your videos are absolute the truth! Xbox owned their own NFL title . NFL Fever, they hosted a madden like tournament in 2004 . Then with ESPN 2k5 EA truly felt the pressure. EA has destroyed the football line, and new generations will never know what they are missing
I’m 13 and understand the decline of madden
If I were NFL commisioner I would tore the exclusive right with EA apart and sue EA for wasting fans money since 2008
Except the NFL, like EA, only cares about one thing: how much money the game makes them. Ultimate Team is incredibly profitable, and any real effort put into anything other than making that feature MORE profitable is a net loss for both EA and the NFL.
Thank you for the trip down madden sucks life. I remember back in the day I had so much fun with Madden 02, and the expansion draft. I remember playing college football and porting it over to Madden. I became that guy who bought the game every year, and played it to the point of breaking the game. I slowed down after the last college game, as what was the point of having fake drafting players. 15 to 18, I bought but got rid of it. I moved on from Madden when 20 hit. Over the years, I watched a good game give away to greed, becoming a poor product. Watching the modes change, losing allot that made Franchise good, I found that EA stopped caring about the consumers. The gameplay alone is insane in moments when you play well and the the AI does something not possible to every happen. Best part that always sucks, is the idea to have a competitive AI, as I was kicking the computer by 48 points, only to see my team suck in the second half and lose by 10. I understand football, as a former player, and spent time learning the coaching to know that Madden is lacking true Football. Madden football makes the name Madden a sour mouth, while the living legend is wondering why as the greed took over football. Giving that I am writing this, I am one of those people pushing for EA to drop the game and let someone do it better. I am also one of those guys who went back to a ps2 and 3 to play the best versions of the game, both college and Madden,, while still playing Ncaa football 14 revamped mode....which is far better then Madden in so many ways. Thank you for speaking for the people who need a voice to shout out to the EA people. We must stand together. Thank you for your time.
I have been waiting for so long so happy it is here
I used to love NFL 2K5. I didn't know about the history, but I always found Madden unsatisfying as a sporting simulation. I prefer Cyberball for pure arcade sports. :;
I couldn't care less about sports yet your Madden videos are still so engaging to me. I'm glad I don't play sports games because if I did I'd be super bummed over the complete lack of options out there now. What EA and NFL are doing is enraging and the EA Sports games are the epitome of everything wrong with modern triple a games.
Madden is the greatest game ever wit a .2 user score. You cannot deny this because it is the only game with a .2 user score
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
This man deserves way more subs
I’ve had every madden since 96 on sega and man this video hit a chord man. I’m older don’t play much anymore but the game play is definitely stale glitchy and the game lacks depth. People don’t even know EA original saying wasn’t “it’s in the game” it actually use to be “ if it’s in the game, it’s in the game” they’ve been taking things out of the game for years, sometimes they’ll bring a feature back pretending it’s new when in reality it’s a lesser version of a feature they once took away. Great video dude!
"Ea doesn't want you to watch this video" So I will.
they really should market this game as an ARCADE NFL football games, with The Yard, Superstar KO, X FACTORS this game is not a simulation football game its an ARCADE GAME
Great work on part 1 and part 2. I knew about some of the features that have been lost, like play creation and custom teams, but I didn't realize exactly how many features were lost over the years that I would personally love to have in a football game. Not to mention the features in other football games that madden never incorporated. There's still room for a truly great football game, but I don't think EA will ever make it with their monopoly on the sport in video games.
I recently got a huge hit of nostalgia & decided to pick up Madden 22 after about a decade since buying my last madden game. I really enjoy the arcade style play with the x-factors and big plays, but that's probably all after about 50 hours of playing. What really got me excited for the game (and ultimately disappointed me the most) was Face of the Franchise (FF). I haven't seen RP that bad since high school English class when my classmates had to read roles out loud for Romeo and Juliet.
Cut scenes where the animation doesn't match the intensity of the voice, animated characters silently mumbling to themselves before and after delivering their line, watching the back of the head of the person delivering the line. Scenes where half the conversation is voiced, and the other half gets a couple words, then plain text. Scenes where if you want to skip to the next line of dialogue you find yourself at the end of the conversation or making a choice with the context provided being what's on screen. I could go on. This mode feels like it was literally an afterthought. They had the opportunity to provide an amazing experience, but instead I'm stuck playing a game with rp that removes you from any immersion, is unimpressive, and is ultimately a HUGE disappointment.
My experience with this kind of mode extends to the time(s) I played The Show '19 RTTS mode, and I remember having a positive experience. I don't think the rp was anything to write home about, but it wasn't that bad. I don't even care for baseball and I would almost rather play that mode over madden's FF. Hell, if there were a game out there with comparable arcade style play and better RP I might actually get it as soon as I could afford it.
I'm very late to this video, but thank you for putting into the words the disappointment with buying Madden 4 years ago after not playing it (too busy and broke to afford gen 5 consoles) for 8 years. I havent bought it since because of my complete disinterest in what it had become, and you put it into words! Thank you! I hope, though I am sure I will be equally disappointed, they dont ruin the next NCAA football, which was my preference of the two franchises when they peaked.
Thanks Again!
Madden really needs to separate Ultimate team from the base game. Ultimate team should be free and standalone from Madden. Only then the problems would be solved.
Agreed
Glad to hear you speak on this its great n needs heard
Flea flickers used to be in the game too smh
I bet that you will get animation sacked 7/10 times
@@SH-vn6zh by time you complete the flea flicker you would be sacked by ai bc the only “difficulty” in this game is making your offensive line complete dogshit and the ai on offense just throw check downs
madden is a disgrace and i certainly won't be buying it or any other EA game in the future
I will always support madden
shouldn't you be watching their TH-cam videos then?
@@braves2021 and EA is laughing right in your face. Have some self respect man.
@@TheDozin1 i play the game because i enjoy playing lol.... i couldnt care if "franchise mode" has had no updates. And if you really care about franchise mode why dont you go play madden and 2k 05 when the game was actually "good"
@@marcluino5354 you talk about franchise mode as if online isn't borderline unplayable
I've been playing Madden off and on since college (old school gamer..been playing since Madden '98). The game HAS changed and everything you've discussed in your videos (yes, both) have been spot on. Every time I play Madden, I become more and more aware of how broken it is (I wisely didn't buy Madden 21 after looking at the reviews). Given that, I find myself playing other games like NBA2K and the MLB the Show.
It's wild how folks don't remember how good Madden used to be. Sad, really.
This is a great/wonderful truthful review of Madden. I've been a loyal Madden purchaser/gift receiver since the game came out for the PS1. I'm a hardcore franchise guy. I've noticed it was a waste of money after Madden 25. It's extremely frustrating they push the same crap year in and year out. I wish NFL 2k series was still around. Without competition the game will not get any better. They've lost my business. I'm alright playing Madden 13, I believe it's the last game where you can assign defensive players to a specific player. Keep up the good work, hopefully one day EA will make the changes necessary. However, I'm not holding my breath.
I’m wondering if we could sue them for false advertising. They claim that the game is sim, but it is clearly arcade or competitive at best. Neither of those is simulation. By the way, another well researched video softdrink. We’ll get the game we deserve one day.
Good idea
I’m pretty sure you could get some gameplay footage of shitty looking game play you could at least make it so the NFL has to open the license of to some competition. A law suit against EA for making a truely awful simulation football game may make them re-evaluate the companies that want to be in the business with the NFL. We would get some really amazing looking and playing games if they opened it back up. Maybe a company that won’t pay the most for the license, but could build royalties into the contract that would make the NFL more money in the long run because the game would sell like hot cakes. Instead of EA getting flithy rich at the expense of the NFL’s reputation. They are only paying a fraction of what they themselves are racking in. There are ways out there that the NFL can pull in more with a different company. They just need to seek it out instead of doing what’s easy instead of what is best for all parties, the NFL, the gaming company, and most importantly the fans, whom these two entities could not exist without. Whew…
It's fitting that I stumbled across this video. I WAS a Madden-lifer. I grew up with Madden. Madden '95 was my entry into the franchise, and I bought every Madden until Madden '15. I used to go wait in line at midnight on launch day. I loved the game! You brought up 2k5 a lot, and while I enjoyed the extra stuff from that game, I preferred the gameplay and franchise mode of Madden. I don't know when UT started, but that's when I stopped playing. It became clear early on that UT was the future of the game and nothing else. I stopped playing most games all together. However, for some reason... not sure why... I bought Madden 21 a week ago, New Year's Eve to be exact, and it's nothing like I remember. UT took over as I thought, and I became frustrated right away when I first downloaded the game and couldn't jump right in and play. I had to create my avatar. Franchise mode is nowhere near what it used to be, I attempted to make a trade, and it was near impossible! I'm sad that I jumped back into this game and gave EA my $29. The funny thing is that it wouldn't take much work to improve the game. While you listed the 89 things they removed or never included, I don't think they need to bring back all 89. Improve the engine first and foremost. While I want a deep franchise mode, most of the time, I just want a fun, playable game with good mechanics. It's frustrating that running the ball is almost the most clunky thing about playing a game. I want to hit the wide-open hole without an unnecessary juke. My 95-speed receiver should blow past that 87-speed corner or slower linebacker, but no separation. I've been able to fix this a little by adjusting sliders, but I shouldn't have to do that. I think the NFL would be well suited by dropping EA or opening competition again. Are they blind to see how well the 2k franchises are doing... other than WWE games? However, you are dealing with two HUGE companies that honestly don't care about the fan/user; it's all about the mighty $$. This is all fine and good, especially when you have people that will buy the game based on brand recognition alone. When you're throwing around billions of dollars, it's hard to warrant any real change. While I'd like to think the NFL would consider this, but Madden is making them a lot of money, AND the NFL has proven to care about their fans just as much as Madden does. Until we say, "it doesn't matter if it's the only NFL game on the market, it sucks, so I'm not buying it," no real change will come. To get huge companies to listen, you have to hit them in their wallets. Awesome series on this once good franchise! Well done!
Side note: I think NCAA Football 14 was the greatest football game ever made.
don’t tell EA but…I’m watching this rn
2K NFL games age like fine wine.
Like Ryan Moody…never stop making these videos. Thank you!!
You have proven many facts to me with your video I watched both of them. I agree Madden needs some competition to help make better games. It's the same game every year nothing changes but the players drafted. I have been playing Madden since 2001 on the PlayStation 2 I never realized how many things got taken out of it over the yrs. I support your overall complaints on the game.
EA doesn’t give af 1, because of the exclusive license, and 2, people still buy it.
And ultimate team makes up like a third of the company’s revenue
Check this out. For those who don't know, in ESPN NFL 2K5 if you run a no audible no huddle, the CPU will adjust to everything you did in the previous play and change up their defense to prevent you from doing it again. In 2K5 you had to look at patterns the AI or even your friends did. And adjust. I played a Patriots vs dolphins game yesterday. And the dolphins mostly went, run run, long pass, if not by 3 yards left. On defense they usually did man coverage. Zone if I no huddle after a pass And blitz if I no huddle after a run. Just tiny details like that that would make Madden just a bit more competitive and more strategic. Offline and online.
10:59 that's the best glitch I've seen yet lmfaooo
coach just set up his office on the 50 yard line
always have to be ready