A little gamble (a mistake maybe?), or when new isn't new...

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  • A Märklin 3102 recently popped up my eBay feed... Advertised as new, the pictures told another story, need I say more... Let's find out if it was a mistake...
    Enjoy!
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:43 First impressions
    07:19 Disassembly
    08:31 Inside look
    10:57 Servicce and rust removal
    17:20 Bodywork
    21:35 Reassembly and test
    24:57 installing smoke generators
    26:03 Run with matching stock
    29:41 Final thoughts
    Models featured in this video:
    Märklin 3102: DRG BR 53
    Marklin 4692. 4695, 4696 - DRG Wagons
    Sources:
    www.maerklin.de
    Model train directory and collection management: www.modelrailroadcollector.wiki
    Photo credits:
    Borsig locomotive builder’s plaque
    Helgoland01 via flickr: flic.kr/p/TBx3Yv
    Soviet offensives on the Eastern Front in 1942 from 18 November to March 1943
    commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
    #Märklin #mgleis #analog #wartung #tmrguk #mobaanalog Märklin layout Märklin trains #Spielbahn
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  • @2mes2mains
    @2mes2mains 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great work to refresh this wonderful model ! a pleasure to see it running as new then, Thank you for sharing !

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @lindaoffenbach
    @lindaoffenbach 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow, yes, the Borsig BR 53. Märklin's most majestic loco. Never seen in real but we can enjoy it as a model. Such a pity, or rather sad online sellers doing these kind of things, claiming new while it isn't at all... Nonetheless, quite the project for this one with some great tips, especially about removing rust and what damage the styrofoam can do over time. Very didactic again. Thank you so much again. Cheerio.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good thing it was never built... Also a good thing for the seller that I don't name and shame either 😀 Thanks for the visit, glad you found the video useful.

  • @CM-he8ni
    @CM-he8ni 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Informative and pleasing as always. Never tire of long trains in action 😊

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many thanks!

  • @donaldanderson4937
    @donaldanderson4937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An impressive locomotive. Having seen the CC50 Mallet locomotives at Cibatu Indonesia in 1980, I couldn't resist buying my 3102 loco at Frankfurt Airport Duty Free shop in 1981! Another very useful video - thank you.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many thanks! Glad you found the video useful.

  • @patrickmurphy6775
    @patrickmurphy6775 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my favorite engines!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they are good fun

  • @Romin.777
    @Romin.777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not everything in a collection has to be in showroom condition.
    That loco would be good enough for me.
    Heck in real life german steamlocos had chalk, coal deposits and rust on them. ;)

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it is growing on me 😉

    • @Romin.777
      @Romin.777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The3rdRail :))

  • @Kapparie
    @Kapparie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another nice video I enjoyed watching. 🙂 Great cleaning, I do more or less use the same methods to clean. Though I would have never applied oil on body of the loco, not saying it is wrong. It worked out very nice. You have expanded your collection with another fine model.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot!

  • @olafjentzsch6759
    @olafjentzsch6759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for an awesome video. You are very knowledgeable on Marklin trains. Always a pleasure watching your videos.🚂🚂

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @tinplatefan6303
    @tinplatefan6303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vielen Dank, super erklärt, Grüsse aus Deutschland

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      many thanks!

  • @kearney3320
    @kearney3320 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I considered buying a USA GG-1, but it’s 28 cm! Instead I bought a Dutch class 1200 model (21 cm) because it reminded me of the USA EP-5.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 1200 is a nice locomotive.You might find it on the channel in a few places 😉. Thanks for the Super, much appreciated 🙏!

  • @pwissink1
    @pwissink1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own the 37021. Beautiful loco. As far as I know, Borsig was building two of them. One loco with boiler and one only the frame work. Both destroyed by a bombardement. For the paint on the boiler: maybe you can polish it up a bit. Tamiya has excellent polish for that. For the windplate, maybe a replacement can be used?

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard the story too, all very confused imho as the sources are not very credible though not impossible, but what matters is that the class never made it out of the factory, one way or another. The wind deflector can be simply be stripped and re sprayed with some matt or satin black, that works well on these locos usually. I'll look into the polish if I decide to take thing further at some point, thanks very much for the advice, much appreciated. Take care.

  • @gordonholtshausen4383
    @gordonholtshausen4383 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always thank you. I have 2 of these and will get them out for a run. A lovely loco, not one that I would call a mistake, a bit of TLC seems to have done the trick.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, you win some you lose some as they say...

  • @fulviobabuder6099
    @fulviobabuder6099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Molto bello il video 👍👍

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏

  • @roland3962
    @roland3962 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming. I have the 3602 model, wonderful model, however have the same smoke unit problem as your 3102. I gave up debugging ;-) Greetings from South Africa.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for popping by today, much appreciated.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just tried 2 identical (brand new) smoke generators and they both work simultaneously, my guess was correct in the video, the 2 units I used there had different power requirements. These work fine on their own in other locos. something similar might be happening with your loco.

    • @roland3962
      @roland3962 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the feedback, it's most likely that my problem is similar. I installed some older smoking units which I had on hand, which also work fine on their own. I will order and install two brand new units, and who knows maybe the solution is as simple as that.

  • @Trainsbigandsmall
    @Trainsbigandsmall 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very nice locomotive I have the 37020 myself

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @steamerjon
    @steamerjon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I call it the "Märklin tax" applied by some eBay sellers. The claims of being brand new are usually accompanied by a 10 day auction with a starting price £200 above what it's worth, and a couple of paragraphs of AI generated claptrap about how Märklin are a top quality brand. This is how the Z gauge market feels anyway.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And after 50 lines telling how good the thing is, still put a disclaimer that the pictures form part of description 😀 The description for this one was simply a lie, but I had looked at the pictures and it wasn't too bad price wise, I'd say just about £10 to £15 too much for its condition. But I agree some sellers are simply delusional. But here the solution is simple: walk away... I rarely use ebay for that reason, too much hassle when something goes wrong...

    • @steamerjon
      @steamerjon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The3rdRail oh yes I similarly bought a Märklin mini club City Ban train set from eBay, described as immaculate and never removed from the box. This is why I foolishly bought it without seeing pictures of it out of the box. The set was in fact immaculate apart from the hidden side of the locomotive, which looked as though it had been dragged along the pavement and then given a few strokes with a hot soldiering iron. The seller offered me a £10 refund as the damage was "only cosmetic".
      Where do you recommend buying Märklin stuff as a UK resident?

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mostly use professional sellers in Europe, usually brick and mortar shops with a website (ie no eBay storefront). I don't have a particular reference to give as I don't like to get involved in recommendations unless it is for low value items. My expectations or tolerance level might not necessarily match someone else's and I would feel bad if I had contributed to a disaster...

  • @chriswade7470
    @chriswade7470 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve just bought one of this class of Loco, A Digital version the 3701. I haven’t had the opportunity to test it yet.

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't wait too long 😉 Thanks for the visit!

  • @raymondleggs5508
    @raymondleggs5508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    interesting almost was locomotive, too bad no rich eisenbahn enthusiast has contemplated building a real one!

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      one day maybe...

  • @jefferyfarrell
    @jefferyfarrell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Random question for the day but I noticed when you installed the smoke generators one had a green tip (front I think) and the back may have been darker (red). I just replaced the smoke generator in my 3047 as it worked but only flat out and it was a green tip. A new 7226 today (red tip) and it works fine.
    My suspicion is that the red tip is the seuthe #10 and the green tip is the seuthe #11 which is made to run at digital voltages. They are exactly the same size and the only thing that I have found may be the colour of the tip gives them away. I would be interested to know if you find similar?

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The colors changed over time. The green one in the video is very old (i think 40 year old), the other one is a one year old 7226. Both work fine when installed alone in other locomotives. I since installed 2 brand new, identical, Seuthe 10 which both work, My guess would be that the older one I tried first needed more power than than the newer one, the latest short I published (here: th-cam.com/users/shorts11PNupTokq4?feature=share ) shows the loco running with the new generators. But what you mentioned about units made for digital is definitely something to be aware of, and check if need be.

    • @jefferyfarrell
      @jefferyfarrell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The3rdRail it's been hard to track down the colours but from what little I can find on the seuthe website the new green ones are for digital. My 3048 was red which I brought 30 years ago which was why I wondered what was installed in my 3047. Since it works at full power I might just stuff it in a chimney of a house and attach it to the lighting circuit. 😂

    • @The3rdRail
      @The3rdRail  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, the new Seuthe 10/10E I bought have a reddish base, but the one year old Märklin 7226 has a white base 😵‍💫 Seuthe manufactures both so you can only rely on colors for Seuthe branded units (which you cannot distinguish by simply looking at them 😄)... The only test you can do is to hook them up to a driving transformer with crocrodile clips and progressively increase the voltage, analogue compatible units should start generating smoke at around the 80 mark in that setting. All good fun...

    • @jefferyfarrell
      @jefferyfarrell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The3rdRail yeah my green tip was around 150 - 200 even after a clean. Doesn't matter so much now as I have a new generator and I can find a use for the old one. I should really finish my track wiring rather than playing with generators anyway. But good things take time. 😂