As someone who has used manabox for a while, great to see it get some recognition. As to the Archivist...it is way overpriced for what is essentially half of a 20$ auto shuffler set to low speed.
$200 for a 3d printed box with a roller? If the thing sorted and organized cards, then sure I could see it being worth it. This ain't it though. It's just dropping a card win a set interval and your phone is doing all the work You could probably make the same thing with an old shoebox, a toilet paper tube, and some rubberbands.
I feel like we're likely going to see 3D printable versions of this sort of product fairly quickly. Biggest challenge would likely be sanding and such to make sure it doesn't damage cards though. The real trick is getting one with a built in micro-controller or such that directly connects to a mobile app such that it only moves to the next card once the previous one is scanned, and stops when it misses a card, sending out an error code noise or such. Technically with a raspberry pi or such you could likely just plug in a USB webcam and have it all handled from the same device without needing a phone at all. Have it save the list to your google drive or even some website potentially. Though I'm not sure how well your average webcam will do scanning cards; if it's high enough resolution compared to a cell phone camera.
Yeah agreed. $200 for this is absolute insanity. A lithium battery and small motor with a timer. The rest is just 3D printed parts. It’s about 50 quid in parts including the material cost. It’s a good idea but it not having any smarts is the real killer.
@@Lutelootsmodern 3d printers are pretty good quality now. As long as you print in an orientation that makes sense and you use smooth pei bed you get parts as smooth as glass.
I love seeing manabox get some recognition. And i was considering getting the machine. Now im glad to see that they will work well together. Great video!
@@Taalia_Vess you can seperate your foils and lock it to only scan foils in the settings, its called "prefer foil if possible" you can also scan in decks its an amazing app I made binders in the app and sepperated commons and uncommons and rares its a bad ass app
Mana box is my favorite collection app and scanner, I do it manually and it's pretty quick as long as you have a clean white surface, been doing for a while so when I get new singles I'm not overwhelmed with cards to scan. Mana box doesn't pick up multiples in a row tho, at least when I do it. The contraption is cool the price ain't XD
While I love Manabox, that's the one thing that really bums me out, too. I have often waited for a card to finally scan until I realized that it's the same as the last one.
@@PimpTrizkit-42 Depending on the art, it'll pick the correct set most of the time. But I think none of the card scanning apps has an actual set icon recognition. Sometimes, it'll give you the wrong set and you'll have to correct it manually.
I've used mana box for almost 2 years now i only ever have issues with black cards or cards with dark artwork but having good lighting generally takes care of that. I can even scan sleeved cards as well. It also works for foreign language cards too my brother bought a bunch of cards while in Japan and it scanned those easily, but it doesn't mark it as another language so keep that in mind.
For manabox, i would recommend separating the foils and selecting the "prefer foils when possible" option when you go to scan them. As it won't automatically recognize that it's a foil, unfortunately. But yes, manabox is cool! And that auto card flipper is pretty neato.
Actually a great tip; I'm used to just manually hitting it when I'm going through my post-release pulls but this will make things just a bit faster and less prone to error.
The card mover is pretty cool and a neat contraption. Definitely isn't worth 200$. Also Manabox is fantastic; it wont scan the card multiple times so that way you don't accidentally add copies. Worth supporting them to remove ads as well.
Separate all the cards for foiled and non foiled and it will be alot easier. In the settings you can set it to prefer foil or you can say only use this set. Mana box has so many amazing options.
The app has no way to tell the device to slow down or speed up. Without any communication between the two, it's going to error out like crazy on cards, missing them or misidentifying. This is why full size sorters have a much, much lower error rate. They don't move the card until it has identified it and then sorts it.
@@CainMadness it very well could. I only tried a few cards. I cut this out of the video to shorten it but I also tried the TCG multi thousand dollar sorter at my lgs and it kept malfunctioning. I'll still be searching for the best way to scan these but at $200 it was worth a shot
@@Taalia_Vess Which one did you use? I've a few LGS owner buddies that have used different kinds, I can find out which they recommend. Could also just pay some simp to sort and price the collection for you. (Not me, my vision is terrible.)
@@CainMadnesshaving a person who isn't me handling my moderately large collection, think I will pass on the cheetos hands and possible drool from "OH... Shiny🤩" if anyone's gonna drool on my cards it'll be me, lol
@@rhenestofel I only care about my cards currently in decks. Worthless to me until I need to put a card in. I use beaten up and mangled cards (and buy them. Savings!) So we are goblins of two wildly different tribes.
TCG's scanner is so crazy, it works so good one second and then the next it stops working and then it scans 20 random cards half way across your desk while you're moving the phone around trying to figure out why it stopped scanning the ones you're pointing at.
Excuse me wtf 200$ for a 3d printed roller? This is way overpriced for what they are selling. It is literally a timed mechanism that makes a rubber roll spin. No crazy tech, nothing that justifies over 50$.
I'm begging all of the people with this attitude to design, build, and mass produce a viable alternative for less cost. Stop talking shit and actually do it if you're so confident the price tag is illogical. Seriously, please do this.
FYI unless im mistaken manabox missed a Keldon overseer?? at 4:14 - only writing cus i was SUPER locked in this video and the app does seem nice! i just put up a tripod with my phone to make it easy but if i had 200 bucks this looks like a great investment.
That last app makes it seem pretty good! You could always leave a stack and then compare how many it scanned vs how many cards you put in, then you would know if it missed anything or not
Thanks for testing this out, I've recently seen this product on my social media and was debating on whether it was worth getting. This is a solid testament 😊
heads up everyoneo. monstrous rage is worth 7$ currently....its an uncommon from wilds of eldraine....you definitely have some just laying around so liquidate your extras while you can bc that could be 2 packs .of cards almost
I love this! But they don't ship to Australia, so instead I've taken a white cardboard box, propped it up on an angle, pointed Manabox at it, and thrown my cards into it one at a time. It sort of works!
TCG Player app is unintuitive, but works well. I'm able to scan a card every second, and rarely have to modify the result. Some tips: Dont point the camera staight down at the card from above; instead, hold it closer to the same plane that the card is on. The view of the card will be askew. The app projects a rhomboid white outline shich hints at this. To prevent the double/triple scan, don't let a card linger in its view or move it after placing: Place card > Beep > remove card. It takes a little practice. The only issue I have with TCG Player is with tokens and List cards. It always gets confused about which set/version those are. Scan them separately because they'll take a lot of manual sorting. Finally, as others have said, you can set the foil option manually for each card or before you start scanning. I scan my foils together so that I only set this once per batch. Just don't forget to turn it back to normal before starting a stack of 2,000 normal cards, not that it's ever happened to me or anything.... Hope that helps!
We use Manabox as well. We can't recommend it enough! We've been seeing this scanner as well popping up in the ads. Still can't justify that price tag though. But thanks for the review!
If you're seriously looking for a way to organize just get a sorting tray and a bunch of drawer boxes (I prefer vertical drawers over horizontal so I can see the cards). I sorted alphabetically/type (so all A creatures, A Planeswalkers, etc) but you can sort how you want. I chose name/type because thats how I think. Good luck tho.
Been using mana box for 2 years now and I have no issue paying their $3 a month for deck play testing in the app itself not to mention unlimited binders and lists
I think this product would work well as a $500 doodad with some smarts jammed in. Even if you still needed a phone. The babysitting is a no-go, so maybe we’re on our way. I’d be sending commons through to test... 😭
I love manabox and have been using it for a year or two now, but one issue I’ve had is that it’s really annoying to scan multiple copies of the same card one after the other (i.e., cards with the same artwork because the manabox scanner can’t distinguish between different set printings of a card with the same artwork) - you either have to wait for ~10 seconds for the most recently-scanned card to leave the “buffer”, or scan a different card between multiple copies in order to keep scanning at a decent rate. That said, the reason it’s annoying for me is also probably the reason why it didn’t scan the same card multiple times in your video (unlike the TCGPlayer app), so it may actually be of benefit in this particular case. It’s probably just worthwhile going through any stacks of cards and making sure you don’t have any duplicates back to back before you put them into the machine.
Manabox is dope. Roller box seems excessive tho. I bought a $20 overhead phone holder and I can do it just as fast while watching the cards and making sure it reads everything correctly. At $200 I’ll just buy a 3D printer and make my own lol
I agree that the TCG APP is just not good at scanning cards. The issue with every app is it has a hard time getting the right set it's from. But that's not as important if it's just you wanting to know if you have the card.
TCGplayer should switch to a LLM based scanner. They are probably working on old legacy image processing model, which was severely outdated by LLM and GPT.
The only issue I've had using Manabox is it not wanting to scan duplicates of a card right after each other and that may have been user error on my part anyway
Not gonna lie, this seemed more like an app review than the product review lol. That said, as someone who had previously scanned maybe 25k cards by hand with an app, this seems very expensive for what it does. I may be a bit biased, though. Will definitely be looking into manabox. Random nerd thought, too - I wonder what is different with the scanners in apps to make some better or worse than others
I believe it missed a card after Academy Drake while you were talking by about how it doesn’t miss cards. I really wish there was a more reliable way to scan cards, and especially a way that doesn’t cost $200 for some plastic and a motor.
@@Taalia_Vess yea it's just a little too rudimentary to justify a 200$ price tag. If you could load 100+ cards into it and walk away I could see it being useful as a tool for LGS' and speculators but as it stands it's not really saving you much work if you have to sit there hold the button down and make sure it's actually getting scanned.
If there was actually some intelligence in this so the machine waited for the scan to finish than sure it would be something, but $200? They can go sit on a pine cone.
Thank you for the amazing review I have been using ManaBox for about 10 months and love it, this TCG Archivist looks like it will make adding my cards alot easier (making my addiction to cardboard easier... hmm., not sure this is a good thing 🤣)
Haha thank you for watching. Manabox is incredible. With the TCG archivist I do like that it's in one spot, I don't have to fiddle with handling the cards and getting the light and alignment right each time
Here's my only question I have with these auto-scanner or auto-sorter like devices. Does it cause any damage to the cards? For bulk it certainly isn't a big worry. But if I threw say my Doubling Season in there, will it be safe? And also, does this device work with sleeved cards? I tend to build and modify my decks a lot and then try later to add them to a decklist on manabox, and something like this would make that so much easier.
@@viktorgenovezsass4105 yeah I actually tried it on this video but cut it all out because it kept loading every single set type when I scanned. Am I doing something wrong?
Is the app getting the right edition for the cards? I've been using CardCastle's app and I have to correct it all the time. (The app defaults to the most recent printed edition, but that's often not correct if you're archiving older sets.)
@@Ryan_Dye-r ah no. It makes using a card scanning app easier because you're not having to pull each card, angle it just right for the reader to pick up
@@Ryan_Dye-r it's to keep track of my personal collection and also lists I have posted for sale. When prices go up or down I have to go and change it, it's not automatic and I've lost a lot of money recently by not knowing the cards went up in value
Ok, so it's cool to see the app going so well and picking up the cards, but $200 is insane for something that simple... Especially since the app is the only thing actually doing anything besides moving cards from one tray to another...
One minor downside manabox has that if you want to keep track of more than 5 decks, deck folders and binders (each) you have to pay a subscription fee of €2.49 a month (Or €24,99). I think it is worth to pay for maintaining the database and updating to newer OS versions, but I feel a subscription is too expensive just to maintain a good grip on your collection. But perhaps I'm just stingy.
Ohhhh interesting. I don't mind paying for an app that works. They have to make money somehow to maintain it I'm sure. The worst is when you pay for an app that crashes or is buggy 😆
If you really wanted to, you could pay for as long as it takes to sort a collection out, then upload it to a site for free and cancel the subscription. At least then you're able to do future additions for free so long as you keep up with it. I know stuff's expensive but like, that's slightly under the cost of a mcdonalds cheeseburger for a whole month.
@@PhoenicopterusR I like how you think. ;) It is just....aah...you force me to publicly admit I'm addicted to buying magic due to which I have an ever evolving collection to sort out!
@crocopeet1900 it's okay, we're all addicts here. What I said is pretty much what I did: spent the $3.50/mo or whatever on DelverLens, then I uploaded it to Moxfield into different categories for each box. ~30k cards were relatively easy to knock out, if not a little time-consuming. However, it was less time-consuming and now I can just manually add or remove things as they go in/out of the collection for free. I guess in the end it's really up to how and where you want to catalog your cards, but minimizing that initial slog was worth it in my mind.
The product seems nice and useful, but $200 for a $5 3D print and $10 of electronics is wildly steep. I cant justify that on my side of things, but im happ for those who can.
Exactly what I was thinking, and they advertise it as affordable on their website?! Printing those parts costs very little and I can not really explain a price this high for it even if one tries to factor in Research and development.
For that price i want an app that works perfectly and most important that can store my collection, i’ve been using manabox for a while and its great but the free version is not enough and the pro version on a plan is bs, maybe i could justify a one time purchase for the app, but not a yearly fee
Unless someone can actually *design* , manufacture and distribute similar devices (add speed control for convenience 😉) for less, price should be OK - and might make _some_ profit. You are very roughly comparing materials and ignoring all the work behind it. There are manual things for us cheap (and we can wait for _ping_ (hoping to hear _ping ping ping!_ 😅) before sliding another card in) 😉
As someone who has used manabox for a while, great to see it get some recognition.
As to the Archivist...it is way overpriced for what is essentially half of a 20$ auto shuffler set to low speed.
Give it a week, someone will upload a not-the-Archvist STL in Thingiverse
i like the slowed down auto shuffler idea.. i might try that lol
$200 for a 3d printed box with a roller? If the thing sorted and organized cards, then sure I could see it being worth it. This ain't it though. It's just dropping a card win a set interval and your phone is doing all the work You could probably make the same thing with an old shoebox, a toilet paper tube, and some rubberbands.
I feel like we're likely going to see 3D printable versions of this sort of product fairly quickly. Biggest challenge would likely be sanding and such to make sure it doesn't damage cards though.
The real trick is getting one with a built in micro-controller or such that directly connects to a mobile app such that it only moves to the next card once the previous one is scanned, and stops when it misses a card, sending out an error code noise or such.
Technically with a raspberry pi or such you could likely just plug in a USB webcam and have it all handled from the same device without needing a phone at all. Have it save the list to your google drive or even some website potentially. Though I'm not sure how well your average webcam will do scanning cards; if it's high enough resolution compared to a cell phone camera.
Yeah agreed. $200 for this is absolute insanity. A lithium battery and small motor with a timer. The rest is just 3D printed parts. It’s about 50 quid in parts including the material cost. It’s a good idea but it not having any smarts is the real killer.
@@Lutelootsmodern 3d printers are pretty good quality now. As long as you print in an orientation that makes sense and you use smooth pei bed you get parts as smooth as glass.
This 100%
Literally do it. I would absolutely love to see it and then emulate your version. I'm completely serious.
I love seeing manabox get some recognition. And i was considering getting the machine. Now im glad to see that they will work well together. Great video!
Thank you I only wish I discovered it sooner! It's amazing
@@Taalia_Vesseasily my favourite tracking app
I suspect we will see a lot more of these with more options and a cheaper price tag very soon.
Ive been using manabox for years now. I absolutely love it.
Only wish it would have some stats about my decks value over time
I've been using it for about 5 years now after getting fed up with how clunky Tappedout was and its wild seeing so many people talk about Manabox now.
Unfortunately the card sorter messed with my audio. Sorry for the clicks and pops y'all
It does have sounds. Adjust settings. The foils you sometimes have to click the foil button as it scans. But overall it’s awesome imo
@@DeterminedDev great! I will make sure that's on. Thanks!
@@Taalia_Vess you can seperate your foils and lock it to only scan foils in the settings, its called "prefer foil if possible"
you can also scan in decks its an amazing app
I made binders in the app and sepperated commons and uncommons and rares its a bad ass app
Manabox doesn't play sounds for me, even though I have sounds turned on. I do not know why.
@@DarrinCalvinRoenfanz turn off silent mode. It appears to hook into the notification sound channel, not the media sound channel.
@@dottn Yeah, that was indeed the problem. Thanks. :)
Mana box is my favorite collection app and scanner, I do it manually and it's pretty quick as long as you have a clean white surface, been doing for a while so when I get new singles I'm not overwhelmed with cards to scan. Mana box doesn't pick up multiples in a row tho, at least when I do it. The contraption is cool the price ain't XD
While I love Manabox, that's the one thing that really bums me out, too. I have often waited for a card to finally scan until I realized that it's the same as the last one.
Does it pick up which set the card is from? Like, do you just have 20 Arcane Signets? or does it know from which set is each Arcane Signet?
@@PimpTrizkit-42 Depending on the art, it'll pick the correct set most of the time. But I think none of the card scanning apps has an actual set icon recognition. Sometimes, it'll give you the wrong set and you'll have to correct it manually.
I've used mana box for almost 2 years now i only ever have issues with black cards or cards with dark artwork but having good lighting generally takes care of that. I can even scan sleeved cards as well. It also works for foreign language cards too my brother bought a bunch of cards while in Japan and it scanned those easily, but it doesn't mark it as another language so keep that in mind.
Wow that's so great to hear! I was wondering about other language cards.
I use Delver lens for my sorting app of choice
For manabox, i would recommend separating the foils and selecting the "prefer foils when possible" option when you go to scan them. As it won't automatically recognize that it's a foil, unfortunately. But yes, manabox is cool! And that auto card flipper is pretty neato.
@@JackieSghetti that's a great tip thank you!
Actually a great tip; I'm used to just manually hitting it when I'm going through my post-release pulls but this will make things just a bit faster and less prone to error.
yup this is what i did
This seems better than my current organization method: stacks of unsorted cards on my bedroom floor dating back to MC Minneapolis May 2023
But this gadget (used with your phone) is used to just get the value of the cards. You will still have stacks of unsorted cards on your bedroom floor.
Glad you gave it the chance, manabox has been my go to for a while now for scanning my collection. that archivist looked nice too tbh
The card mover is pretty cool and a neat contraption. Definitely isn't worth 200$. Also Manabox is fantastic; it wont scan the card multiple times so that way you don't accidentally add copies. Worth supporting them to remove ads as well.
Separate all the cards for foiled and non foiled and it will be alot easier. In the settings you can set it to prefer foil or you can say only use this set. Mana box has so many amazing options.
Thank you for making this video! I have been seeing this product in ads a lot and I have almost pulled the trigger on it numerous times
The app has no way to tell the device to slow down or speed up. Without any communication between the two, it's going to error out like crazy on cards, missing them or misidentifying.
This is why full size sorters have a much, much lower error rate. They don't move the card until it has identified it and then sorts it.
@@CainMadness it very well could. I only tried a few cards. I cut this out of the video to shorten it but I also tried the TCG multi thousand dollar sorter at my lgs and it kept malfunctioning. I'll still be searching for the best way to scan these but at $200 it was worth a shot
@@Taalia_Vess Which one did you use? I've a few LGS owner buddies that have used different kinds, I can find out which they recommend.
Could also just pay some simp to sort and price the collection for you. (Not me, my vision is terrible.)
Some simp 😅 would not trust a simp with cards. But its a funny idea@@CainMadness
@@CainMadnesshaving a person who isn't me handling my moderately large collection, think I will pass on the cheetos hands and possible drool from "OH... Shiny🤩" if anyone's gonna drool on my cards it'll be me, lol
@@rhenestofel I only care about my cards currently in decks. Worthless to me until I need to put a card in.
I use beaten up and mangled cards (and buy them. Savings!)
So we are goblins of two wildly different tribes.
TCG's scanner is so crazy, it works so good one second and then the next it stops working and then it scans 20 random cards half way across your desk while you're moving the phone around trying to figure out why it stopped scanning the ones you're pointing at.
I've been using mana box since I started playing. I can say I absolutely wouldn't have got into magic in the way I did without it. So good.
Wow that's so great to hear! I wish I knew about it sooner, it's fantastic
Welcome to manabox, check the settings as you can adjust many things within it
Excuse me wtf 200$ for a 3d printed roller?
This is way overpriced for what they are selling. It is literally a timed mechanism that makes a rubber roll spin. No crazy tech, nothing that justifies over 50$.
Yess I was so excited to maybe grab it but this price is very hard to explain, for 50 sure but this is just too steep of a price
I bet a bunch of iterations went into perfecting it because cards can be very difficult to deal with. So they gotta recoup those R&D costs
I'm begging all of the people with this attitude to design, build, and mass produce a viable alternative for less cost. Stop talking shit and actually do it if you're so confident the price tag is illogical. Seriously, please do this.
Yes, I get one of those for 70 maybe 80 but not for 200.
@@BigDaddyWesNot all endeavors are worth attempting.
What made a huge difference for me was putting yellow construction paper behind my cards when scanning. It make the edge detection much faster.
FYI unless im mistaken manabox missed a Keldon overseer?? at 4:14 - only writing cus i was SUPER locked in this video and the app does seem nice! i just put up a tripod with my phone to make it easy but if i had 200 bucks this looks like a great investment.
Ohh it does look like it missed that one. I did trim the video to keep it short. I'm going to go back and watch the original now lol I'm invested
@@Taalia_Vess regardless its clearly doing wayyyy better so thanks for the app rec!! lol
Finally someone did it!! Been looking for something like this for so damn long!
You should use Delver Lens instead.
Agreed
Fastest app, lots of price sources: card market, card kingdom, tcg, etc even cardhoarder...why? I dunno, but still there haha
That last app makes it seem pretty good! You could always leave a stack and then compare how many it scanned vs how many cards you put in, then you would know if it missed anything or not
Thanks for testing this out, I've recently seen this product on my social media and was debating on whether it was worth getting. This is a solid testament 😊
@@gemyniraptor8626 I need to do a more thorough test with like a thousand cards and we will see how it goes 😁
I have supported Manabox for over two years. I LOVE IT!!
heads up everyoneo. monstrous rage is worth 7$ currently....its an uncommon from wilds of eldraine....you definitely have some just laying around so liquidate your extras while you can bc that could be 2 packs .of cards almost
I use ManaBox for tracking my decks, but I haven't used it for scanning my collection. I'm glad to know that it does well.
I love this! But they don't ship to Australia, so instead I've taken a white cardboard box, propped it up on an angle, pointed Manabox at it, and thrown my cards into it one at a time.
It sort of works!
I know your making a review of the box but I think you got me with mana box. If I get a descent paycheck I may consider the machine haha. Great stuff
@@lord_more_dino haha right! I was absolutely shocked at how flawless the app is.
TCG Player app is unintuitive, but works well. I'm able to scan a card every second, and rarely have to modify the result.
Some tips:
Dont point the camera staight down at the card from above; instead, hold it closer to the same plane that the card is on. The view of the card will be askew. The app projects a rhomboid white outline shich hints at this.
To prevent the double/triple scan, don't let a card linger in its view or move it after placing: Place card > Beep > remove card. It takes a little practice.
The only issue I have with TCG Player is with tokens and List cards. It always gets confused about which set/version those are. Scan them separately because they'll take a lot of manual sorting.
Finally, as others have said, you can set the foil option manually for each card or before you start scanning. I scan my foils together so that I only set this once per batch. Just don't forget to turn it back to normal before starting a stack of 2,000 normal cards, not that it's ever happened to me or anything....
Hope that helps!
We use Manabox as well. We can't recommend it enough! We've been seeing this scanner as well popping up in the ads. Still can't justify that price tag though. But thanks for the review!
That machine is actually really cool! Thanks for the video!
ManaBox actually does have sound and pings differently for $10+ cards.
Mana box is the way to go for me when I scan!
maybe Delver Lens? and setting un a white sheet under the machine?
If you're seriously looking for a way to organize just get a sorting tray and a bunch of drawer boxes (I prefer vertical drawers over horizontal so I can see the cards).
I sorted alphabetically/type (so all A creatures, A Planeswalkers, etc) but you can sort how you want. I chose name/type because thats how I think. Good luck tho.
I was gonna say manabox then you got it. I scanned 9k cards over about 6 hours and i wasnt even going fast with it. You can turn on sounds also.
I don't think I'll blow that much on the machine, but I've been dying for a scanning app that actually works!
That is still one of the coolest things I've seen
my favorite part of this video was the Wizard's Lightening and now I feel a certain way
200 is so completely unreasonable for this
Mana box is GOATED. I almost exclusively use it for keeping track of all my decklists. I even use it for deckbuilding
Gotta see if selling the bulk to recoup the machine cost
Been using mana box for 2 years now and I have no issue paying their $3 a month for deck play testing in the app itself not to mention unlimited binders and lists
@@gabecastillo1634 oh yeah that totally sounds worth it!
It looked like it didn't pick up Gary in the last passthrough, unless there was some editing to make it seem that way.
I think this product would work well as a $500 doodad with some smarts jammed in. Even if you still needed a phone. The babysitting is a no-go, so maybe we’re on our way.
I’d be sending commons through to test... 😭
Might i suggest a link to the product added to the description? Otherwise great review, and i'm definitely interested in picking one up.
Most apps make a ding, it would be nice if the device had a mic to pick that up before it moved on to the next.
@@PMcDFPV I think it does, I had my phone in do not disturb not sure if that effected it
@@Taalia_Vess Nice! Let us know how it goes after a while :) Have a great week!
I love manabox and have been using it for a year or two now, but one issue I’ve had is that it’s really annoying to scan multiple copies of the same card one after the other (i.e., cards with the same artwork because the manabox scanner can’t distinguish between different set printings of a card with the same artwork) - you either have to wait for ~10 seconds for the most recently-scanned card to leave the “buffer”, or scan a different card between multiple copies in order to keep scanning at a decent rate. That said, the reason it’s annoying for me is also probably the reason why it didn’t scan the same card multiple times in your video (unlike the TCGPlayer app), so it may actually be of benefit in this particular case. It’s probably just worthwhile going through any stacks of cards and making sure you don’t have any duplicates back to back before you put them into the machine.
i legit got this app like 3 days ago to do my collection and i said the same thing this app is incredible
I'm happy to pay Manabox sub cause I can keep making and trying decks even while offline!
$200 for that janky 3d-printed card-mover is absolutely insane, I sincerely hope there's an alternative soon that isn't absurdly costed.
Having to comb through a hundred cards to figure out what didn't scan sounds like it'd eat just as much effort without a card roller.
Nice! I saw this product in an add and was wondering if it was legit or not. Your video was a godsend!
Manabox is dope. Roller box seems excessive tho. I bought a $20 overhead phone holder and I can do it just as fast while watching the cards and making sure it reads everything correctly. At $200 I’ll just buy a 3D printer and make my own lol
perfect video, thanks for doing the leg work
I agree that the TCG APP is just not good at scanning cards. The issue with every app is it has a hard time getting the right set it's from. But that's not as important if it's just you wanting to know if you have the card.
manabox is awesome i only have a problem with it choosing the wrong set or if they are in sleves
@@m80wulf ohhh I'll keep an eye for that
ManaBox is my go to
@@DeterminedDev soooooo blown away!
TCGplayer should switch to a LLM based scanner. They are probably working on old legacy image processing model, which was severely outdated by LLM and GPT.
The only issue I've had using Manabox is it not wanting to scan duplicates of a card right after each other and that may have been user error on my part anyway
@@LoHK9337 that's good to know! Thanks
Not gonna lie, this seemed more like an app review than the product review lol. That said, as someone who had previously scanned maybe 25k cards by hand with an app, this seems very expensive for what it does. I may be a bit biased, though. Will definitely be looking into manabox. Random nerd thought, too - I wonder what is different with the scanners in apps to make some better or worse than others
I would like to see a follow-up video with alternatives to the TCG Archivist CS100.
@@kkc4855 working on that 😀
@Taalia_Vess Friggin' sweeeet! I'm just now starting my venture into the world of MTG, can't wait.
Nice! Organizing Magic cards is a freaking nightmare. I have about 5,000 cards and they are always getting away from me. Thank you!
definitely getting one of these machines for sure
I don’t want to overwhelm the machine is the wild comment I heard all week and it’s only Monday
@@Wakeen510 😆😆😆😆
I believe it missed a card after Academy Drake while you were talking by about how it doesn’t miss cards.
I really wish there was a more reliable way to scan cards, and especially a way that doesn’t cost $200 for some plastic and a motor.
mana box is awesome!!!
You remind me of the female protagonist from Haim Saibans VR Troopers.
You have a great voice
Seeing the little dropbox makes me wonder if you can have a longer one hanging off the edge of the table so you can walk away from it. 🤔
@@bonekill476 huh
Never heard of this thanks!
Ok the fact that just dropping the cards in front of your camera worked just as effectivley lmao
@@horticulturalist7818 but my hands can't move as fast ⏩ I think this will def cut down the time. I'm going to test it
@@Taalia_Vess yea it's just a little too rudimentary to justify a 200$ price tag. If you could load 100+ cards into it and walk away I could see it being useful as a tool for LGS' and speculators but as it stands it's not really saving you much work if you have to sit there hold the button down and make sure it's actually getting scanned.
@@horticulturalist7818 100% agree!
If there was actually some intelligence in this so the machine waited for the scan to finish than sure it would be something, but $200? They can go sit on a pine cone.
There should be a sound
I fucking LOVE manabox. I recommend it to all mtg players!
Thank you for the amazing review I have been using ManaBox for about 10 months and love it, this TCG Archivist looks like it will make adding my cards alot easier (making my addiction to cardboard easier... hmm., not sure this is a good thing 🤣)
Haha thank you for watching. Manabox is incredible. With the TCG archivist I do like that it's in one spot, I don't have to fiddle with handling the cards and getting the light and alignment right each time
Need for Lorcana!
Here's my only question I have with these auto-scanner or auto-sorter like devices. Does it cause any damage to the cards? For bulk it certainly isn't a big worry. But if I threw say my Doubling Season in there, will it be safe?
And also, does this device work with sleeved cards? I tend to build and modify my decks a lot and then try later to add them to a decklist on manabox, and something like this would make that so much easier.
I use the dragon shield scanning app, Idk if its better or not.
Reddit FTW! i think this changed from a product review to an app review lol.
Haha that was not the plan but I was so impressed 😅😂
Thank you magic mommy.
There is the Dragonshield app that's track your cards
@@viktorgenovezsass4105 yeah I actually tried it on this video but cut it all out because it kept loading every single set type when I scanned. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks for the review
try krono scanner next
Is it worth the, in my opinion, insane price? 200$ seems way over costed for a cheap 3d printed machine..
Do you think the machine can handle sleeved cards?
Is the app getting the right edition for the cards? I've been using CardCastle's app and I have to correct it all the time. (The app defaults to the most recent printed edition, but that's often not correct if you're archiving older sets.)
I found I can't scan swamp cards hardly at all this way..
Oh god, I dont want to think about my piles
I hope you're having a good day.
I'm not sure what the intended purpose of this contraption is.
@@Ryan_Dye-r lol it feeds cards into a tray vs handling it yourself. Its def faster
@@Taalia_Vess
Like for drawing cards during gameplay?
@@Ryan_Dye-r ah no. It makes using a card scanning app easier because you're not having to pull each card, angle it just right for the reader to pick up
@@Taalia_Vess
Oh, I see.
Scanning cards must be a new thing, some MTG players are into.
@@Ryan_Dye-r it's to keep track of my personal collection and also lists I have posted for sale. When prices go up or down I have to go and change it, it's not automatic and I've lost a lot of money recently by not knowing the cards went up in value
Ok, so it's cool to see the app going so well and picking up the cards, but $200 is insane for something that simple... Especially since the app is the only thing actually doing anything besides moving cards from one tray to another...
What is the scanning app that worked?
One minor downside manabox has that if you want to keep track of more than 5 decks, deck folders and binders (each) you have to pay a subscription fee of €2.49 a month (Or €24,99). I think it is worth to pay for maintaining the database and updating to newer OS versions, but I feel a subscription is too expensive just to maintain a good grip on your collection. But perhaps I'm just stingy.
Ohhhh interesting. I don't mind paying for an app that works. They have to make money somehow to maintain it I'm sure. The worst is when you pay for an app that crashes or is buggy 😆
If you really wanted to, you could pay for as long as it takes to sort a collection out, then upload it to a site for free and cancel the subscription. At least then you're able to do future additions for free so long as you keep up with it. I know stuff's expensive but like, that's slightly under the cost of a mcdonalds cheeseburger for a whole month.
@@PhoenicopterusR I like how you think. ;) It is just....aah...you force me to publicly admit I'm addicted to buying magic due to which I have an ever evolving collection to sort out!
@crocopeet1900 it's okay, we're all addicts here. What I said is pretty much what I did: spent the $3.50/mo or whatever on DelverLens, then I uploaded it to Moxfield into different categories for each box. ~30k cards were relatively easy to knock out, if not a little time-consuming. However, it was less time-consuming and now I can just manually add or remove things as they go in/out of the collection for free.
I guess in the end it's really up to how and where you want to catalog your cards, but minimizing that initial slog was worth it in my mind.
Is there a way to then take this info and dump it into a person database? So you can organize and search for cards like scryfall?
Depending on what app you use, some should allow you to create CSVs to upload to sites like Moxfield, Deckbox, or Tappedout.
Not sure what value that has for the everyday MTG player is. But the video was enjoyable.
200 bucks for something you can do by hand or making for probably a couple of bucks and a little bit of elbow grease? It’s not even a complex design
Ive been using delver lens for years, anyone know how it comoares to manabox?
@@aaronjenkins223 I've never heard of it! I'll make a comparison video! Great idea 😁
@Taalia_Vess Well I would definitely watch that! Subbing so I don't miss it :D
The product seems nice and useful, but $200 for a $5 3D print and $10 of electronics is wildly steep. I cant justify that on my side of things, but im happ for those who can.
I hear that. If it cuts my time in half when I'm prepping cards to sell for a stream it's totally worth the cost
Exactly what I was thinking, and they advertise it as affordable on their website?! Printing those parts costs very little and I can not really explain a price this high for it even if one tries to factor in Research and development.
@@Feldmeldsupply and demand will either reduce the cost or it will make this product disappear.
For that price i want an app that works perfectly and most important that can store my collection, i’ve been using manabox for a while and its great but the free version is not enough and the pro version on a plan is bs, maybe i could justify a one time purchase for the app, but not a yearly fee
Unless someone can actually *design* , manufacture and distribute similar devices (add speed control for convenience 😉) for less, price should be OK - and might make _some_ profit. You are very roughly comparing materials and ignoring all the work behind it.
There are manual things for us cheap (and we can wait for _ping_ (hoping to hear _ping ping ping!_ 😅) before sliding another card in) 😉