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so basically what happened was his opponent having literally nothing to play decided to stall every single turn for as long as possible hoping to win since mike was down 2500 which ultimately backfired
wouldnt even say it backfired it just diddnt work. from the sound of it he was going to lose so unless there was anything additional he ended up at the same spot as if he hadnt. in other words it costed him nothing to try. still crappy
This exact same kind of thing happened in Magic. Tomoharu Saito would ask to read nearly every card his opponent played in a few of his rounds that were nearing time. In Magic, asking for translations does not "eat up" the clock - A judge will award time extensions. So he could not just do that, he had to physically ask to see the card the opponent was using, would read it, then give it back. Then later in the game and opponent may play the same card and he'd do the same thing again. He was suspended from play & this suspension actually cost him his induction into the Magic: The Gathering Hall of Fame.
I hate to "Uhm ackshually", but I find linguistics really interesting at times so I'll subject you to this anyway: "The year was X" means that at the time of Y happening, the year was X. So unless the thing is still going on (or will go on in the future somehow? That would be interesting), "the year was X" is perfectly fine to say; it doesn't matter when the tale is being told!
That's because "was" is past tense, hence why the phrase "It was the year X when Y occurred" works any time in the past even if that includes the present year. Just because the year is 2024 now doesn't prevent it from being he year 2024 before simply due to the way we tell time (that is, we tell time in chunks we call units, like seconds, minutes, hours, etc.). Basically, it was, is, and will be 2024 when X happened, where Y is happening, and when Z will happen. From, A guy not particularly interested in linguistics.
@@idle_user in many cases, the players don't even talk to each other. There's a funny video somewhere of a guy playing his entire hand as hand-traps and literally just lowering his hand every time the opponent was about to say their action XD
@@idle_user they might not have had a recording setup for the match in question. In theory a guy with a pad and paper is a simpler option to record how the match went
Honestly this, this pisses me off so much about large combo decks and the people who run them. I'll sit through your Bullsh**, I'll take my turn and if it doesn't pan out I'll let them go for the kill, until their dmba**es decide to do a whole other 12 combos when all they need to do is freaking attack for game. At that point I scoop because at that point fk u.
what is funny is that 3 game had a miss play in it that would have won trishula the game before that he never got read of his sharvara before sommoning out the S:P
For people who don’t know Yugioh, and don’t know snake eyes. Imagine that one kid that in games is a min-maxing munchkin that refuses to admit they are overpowered, makes everything about them, and wont let anyone else have the spotlight. Also since u are playing at their house you have no choice but to play with them or leave.
To be fair if I opened ghost girl and spooky dogwood I might actually end their turn with 30k health “I play aromage and it’s fun to play against meta because I can just blow up their entire board if I wanted after that”
I would say only mikes opponent intentionally cheated. Mike's drawing a 6 card hand at the start could be considered cheating, but it would also just be a genuine fuck up.
It's kind of funny how seriously Yugioh tries to take itself for a game where players in top 8 of a world championship qualifier will just literally forget how their cards work
A friend described it perfectly: They added a bunch of shit to keep it relevant and ultimately made a garbled mess you TRY to understand... Or you hope everyone else is as confused as you and doesn't realize you just played a Card wrong.
@@MikayaAkyo Proof positive that the Pokemon (VG) strat of adding a new gimmick every generation and then immediately dumping it so as not to make things too complicated isn't as stupid an idea as most people make it out to be.
The only cheater I ever played in Yugioh was an after school match where I noticed that my opponent's top card never changed while they were "shuffling" told him I wanted to cut his deck, he refused, top card was flipped, pre-erata future fusion to go with the dragons mirror in his hand.
once at locals, I was in the final round, dueling for 1st, and before game one, my opponent and I were doing our shuffling, but I noticed he just seemed to be moving bricks of his deck around, then he places his deck in the deck zone instead of handing it to me to cut. I asked to cut the deck and he said "No, you don't have to, I shuffled really good.", I asked 2 more times very nicely before I called a judge over to enforce the cut because at this point I think he's cheating. I explained the situation and the judge said that I do get the chance to cut the deck, which made the guy across from me huff and basically have a mini freakout. Because he refused to let me cut the deck, the guy took a game loss but then just ended up quitting and giving me the match in his fit. The judge asked the opponent to look at his deck real quick, and they said "whatever, idgaf" as they packed their other stuff, so the judge looked through it and when he got to those top cards, he laughed. The judge told me after prizing that the top 5 cards were 4 pieces of Exodia and a Sangan. Dealt with many cheaters in my life, but that was just one of the most blatant, lol.
I may not be player in TCG anymore but slow play is one of the most disrespectful things you can do any TCG series. I'm glad the opponent got what was coming to them
That's a really weird difference in Yugioh and Magic, once you're in top 8 there is no time limit in games. I feel like that would be a small quality of life change just to take some stress off of the players in the top 8
Yknow that’s actually not a bad idea I would really love a change like that. It probably wouldn’t affect me personally but it makes sense for the very high level players. No cheesing out time wins there would be hype as hell
Maybe watching games would be fun again. Maybe less "misplays" happen and Player Start to Play the Game rule d'accord and not Like yugioh Anime First season
it seems small but every competent ygo player would disagree because then it would make players' decks worse for top cut or at least it would force players to choose between deckbuilding for swiss or for top cut because and this is especially true this format, time is a big factor and players have multiple cards ready to combat that.
There’s little I hate more about Yugioh these days than the timer. In both Master Duel and the TCG. Nothing feels worse than losing a duel to the timer that you know you could’ve won if you’d only had just a little more time.
For those who wanna know what snake-eyes does: Search ash, summon ash, ash search poplar, poplar summon, search spell/trap, summon flamberge, loop flamberge float to link climb for free ‘till you got promethean princess in GY and a 20 negate/interrupts on board
Pure fun. I would go afk too If i dont have any stupid handtrap. Imagine playing chess and you are allowed to Take 20 turns in a row. Who would Play that sht
My favorite story is during Wind Up Rabbit format post hand rip loop ban I was playing against a guy. We’re game 3 we’ve had a lot of close back to backs. Dude plays duality. Reveals 3 duality.
@ you can only play 3 of a card in your deck. Pot of duality reveals 3 cards from the top of your deck then you pick one to add to your hand. He revealed 3 pot of duality.
Lol! The background img at 10:33 is a combo sheet I made for myself when Snake-Eye came out in master duel hahahah I almost fell of my chair when I saw it :D great story as always
Man I hate slow players. I remember being 30 minutes over time in a round in a magic tournament after a 5 minute time extention because my opponent was taking all this super unnecessary game action. Let's just say the room was happy when I finally killed him
Had it happen at locals. Dude was under shifter on tear, just making nothing actions in time so that I wouldn't kill him next turn knowing I had lethal in hand. His friends sided with his play, and it's technically legal actions too, but it's pretty scummy and takes the fun away from things.
@@JamFlexx so I'm not really sure on the yugioh meta and how your guys games work. But in magic we have a card Calle the one ring and that card gives you protection for a turn and dude was just making unnecessary land drops that normal could do 3 damage to you but I can't take damage so dude was holding up the entire tournament taking dumb actions and stalling after we where already in time. In magic you get 5 turns after the round has ended to see who wins. It's was the dumbest waste of time for me to just kill his ass the next turn and send him home at 0-2 in basically a regional qualifiers
@@mrskittles6486As a yugioh player let me translate what the dude above u said, so he facing a deck called “tear”, this deck fully functions on using the their own graveyard, he used a card called “shifter”(dimensional shifter” which his effects makes every card get banished instead of going to the graveyard, which completely shuts down tear’s entire deck bc they NEED the graveyard
I have a story bout a cheater too. My local is having a 1st sanction tournament. So a few of new faces are showing up at our local, and we are excited cause we got to play against new people. The 1st round to smoothly. The 2nd round I got to play against floo, he go first, he set up board, normal robina ya da ya da and end phase. My turn, play Dino, so I know I can play thru this easily. Draw phase, he said, wait, okayy wait, and he start to move weirdly, his hand with the cards go below the table. I think, okay he maybe nervous because new place and he quite young. he move his hands below the table, and then take his hand out, shifter effect. I said, "ahh shit", alright at least I can make something with ovi in hand. I normal summon Ovi and he immediately use harpie storm. And I think, wow, he got crack hand. Can't do shit with it. And we go game 2. Because I didn't need to side against floo, I just wait for him. I kid you not, the whole time he keep bring his ENTIRE DECK below the table, and I immediately know this kid most likely cheating. Suffle done, my draw phase, he activate shifter immediately. Okay this is not even funny anymore, I know the odd of opening shifter (2 in OCG) every game is pretty low. I made bagooska and pass. He start his turn, manage to clear bagooska, but can't kill me. My turn, I manage to OTK him. Game 3, before the game I make excuse to talk to judge about card translation, I whisper to the judge that I suspect him for cheating, the judge said he will monitor him quitely. Start of the game 3, he set up his board, and before my turn, the judge stop the game. Cause he make his odd move again (hands below the table etc). Judge immediately count his deck, and all the cards, and to no one surprise he only has 37 cards, 15 cards siding still there, and the judge ask him where the other 3 cards. He panicked, said some nonsense words, and go to his bag and pretend that his cards are left in the bag, and he's okay with game lost. I don't want to make a big scene because this is the 1st sanction game in our local, my friend is the owner, so out of respect I don't want everyone else feels bad. The judge sit beside him for the rest of the rounds and I kid you not, when shuffling the deck he keep bring the deck down the table everytime the judge going patrol. And he got caught another time but he said that his cards fell down the table "most likely he threw them" After the tournament, he quickly go back with his friends. I ask his other opponent, in the round 1 his opponent got shiffter'ed 3 games in a row by him. But the floo player still manage to lose. I can't believe the guts to cheat so badly, it's not the sleigh of hands, not some fancy trick, he thought we are idiots who can't tell he's blattantly cheating. The judge said he will mark him up in the judge chat group, and tell everyone else about his antic.
I had something similar yeeears ago during goat format. This dude (easily 25+ years old) would shuffle his hand between turns when the pressure was on and would always drop a few cards. After picking the cards up and during his next turn he would always set at least one backrow. It was a ring of destruction - every. damn. time. Dude got caught eventually and what he did was kinda genius. His matte sleeves matched the black carpet so he would place the ring face down underneath his chair/had his foot on it so no one would notice it, wait until he could ring for game and drop his cards. Ever since that I always check under chairs/tables for cards stashed there. Under the table is because a few years after that incident someone would stick cards underneath the table with gum.
Are you kidding me he was blatantly obvious with it and was caught multiple times yet he wasn't disqualified because he just happened to has an excuse every time? Man I feel cheated and I didn't even battle him.
@@zambekiller if you're talking about my case, the only reason I don't make a big scene is that this is the 1st local in my friend place. I don't want others to have bad impression, and I personally request the judge not to make a big scene because of it. We just make sure he will has bad reputation on the judge circle.
If i was the judge i would have given him the loss right when he staid afk and looked at 3card extra deck. Damn losers trying to win with time doing jackashiat...
The time issues with stallers would be solved if the players each had their own timers like in chess, where each player has only their own time to run up.
Ive accidentally drew too many cards on start a bunch of times because sometimes cards stick. Thats why i started just drawing one at a time so that never happens.
Slow players are literally a plague on the game. Legitimate consideration time is fine, but when you're doing it just to drag it into time to cheese a win, yeah, you're scum. There's a guy at my locals who does this....
@Vampireinarm1 he usually gets flustered, stops doing it and starts misplaying because he's annoyed when called out. It's a shame as he is a technically good player but if he's not going 2-0, feels the need to slow play to ensure the win game 3
Fun story of my own to share here. Back in Zoodiac format, I was a wee college lad running on fumes for a high tier deck. Considering the format was tier 0 and was extremely special summon reliant, I decided to build up a Barrier Statue Stun deck to bring to a Regional. Regional was packed, running over 300 players. I have my goblin of a deck outfitted with a 15 card extra deck for some juicy Cherries targets to go after Zoodiac and other random rogue decks that remained semi-popular during the time. These were main-decked, which got me some pretty hefty wins against Zoodiac when their Drident was removed as a possibility to play on their turn 1 if I lost die roll. After a Mermail loss (Running 3 Water statues didn't do me any favors in that game) round 1, I managed to win my next 4 matches and went 4-1 into round 6. My opponent was on Kaiju Zoodiac, which is a dream match up.. if I went first. I unfortunately did not win the die roll, and was forced to go 2nd. Game 1 I held on for quite a while between a gross combination of Fossil Dyna + Dimension Guardian & Moon Mirror Shield, keeping my good boy alive and kicking through any form of removal and battle tricks. I unfortunately ate a Dimensional Prison and lost him on the turn I drew a Dark Bribe to keep it ticking. The game fell apart after that. Game 2 I set up with a statue and 4 backrow, including Dark Bribe, a Solemn, and Dimension Guardian. He was unable to clear my backrow and I whittled him down for game. Game 3 is where it got spicy. He ended his turn 1 with a Drident and known Whiptail in hand. 2 backrow were set as well. Drawing for turn, I had a Fossil Dyna, a Phantom Knights' Sword to keep it protected, alongside a Dark Bribe and Torrential. This seemed solid.. if I could survive the Whiptail play. I don't think he'd be able to break the board if I got set up, but I couldn't Normal the Dyna or it would just die. Instead, I set the Dyna and my full hand minus the extra statue in my hand and passed it over. He draws for turn and does another Zoodiac loop into a second Drident with Whiptail underneath it. In Battle Phase, he swings at my face-down Dyna with the Whiptail'd Drident, which would remove my Dyna if it resolves, even if he took it out with it. I respond with a Storming Mirror Force, which would bounce his full board. In response, he uses Book of Eclipse to attempt to save the monsters. I HEAVILY eye my set dark bribe, but let it go through, knowing what will happen next. He sets a spell (Later to be known as My Body as a Shield, which makes it all the funnier) and passes. During End Phase, his Book of Eclipse's secondary effect flips up my face-down fossil dyna and draws me a card. This flip triggers the Fossil Dyna to destroy his 2 face-down Dridents. FUMING, the guy calls a judge attempting to say I cheated by drawing a card during end phase without giving him a chance to respond. The judge looks over and sees the Eclipse in his GY and my face-up Fossil Dyna. He simply asks, "Is this End Phase?". I respond with a "mmhmm" and nod at the BoE in his GY. He then asks, "Were those set monsters last special summoned?", to which I also provide a yes to. In the coolest demeanor he can, the judge says, "Does turn player have a response to the Fossil Dyna's effect attempting to destroy all special summoned monsters?" to which my opponent grows red in the face for and angrily moves the face-down stacks to GY. The duel completely moves into my favor afterwards, where the now 2000 ATK Fossil Dyna from PK Sword rams into his face for 3 consecutive turns alongside a Wind barrier statue for game. At the end of the duel, my opponent doesn't even look at me. He grabs the match slip, checks off "Drop" without even signing his name, and leaves after slamming the pen back down. EASILY one of my favorite Yugioh moments.
So the guy squeaked out a technicality, then tried to cheat by stalling to try and squeak another technicality win by clock out. Hopefully they guy got shamed out of the tournament for such a scummy attempt to steal out a win they didn't deserve.
My worst story with slow play isn't directly Yugioh-related but it was at a Magic GP against someone who played Yugioh at our local. He was up a game and were in game 2 but I had lethal on board while he only had one card in his hand. He took 5 minutes to ask me what every single card did despite the fact that he already saw my cards in a long game 1 and at one point asked me for a translation for a card I'd already used 4 times between games 1 and 2 at that point. After I asked him to hurry up because we're both going to lose out on making day 2 if we don't finish the round he tried to defend his position by saying he'd win if it went to time -- this is not true in MTG but I wasn't about to take up more time explaining everything wrong with what he just said. I called a judge over immediately after that, explaining the situation and that my opponent seemingly implied that he was intentionally stalling. The judge pulled my opponent aside to talk to him. When my opponent came back he was given a slow play warning and we were given a time extension. My opponent conceded game 2, revealing that the only card in his hand was a BASIC LAND, meaning he didn't even have any decision to make aside from just playing the land and accepting his fate. The judge was still there and watching our game at this point and, before we picked up our board to shuffle up for game 3 he paused us to look at the board state, then proceeded to give my opponent a DQ for intentional stalling since it was clear at that point that my opponent was trying to gain an advantage by running out the clock.
Heres a story, up to you if you pit it in because its different from the normal ones. Back in April of this year I was bored at an event for a parents job, so i decided to load up Yugioh Duel Links on my phone to pass the time. In the game, there was an event that gave you more rewards for Rush Dueling, so I went in, not ready for what was gonna happen later. I was basically having a 50/50 win loss situation but still going at it. Then the match started against someone from Taiwan, I got to go first on the match, saldy my hand wasn't that good so i had to set 4 of my cards face down, 1 monster and the others were spell cards so that I could hopefully get something better. During my opponents turn they placed one card face down and tributed out a kimeruler the dark raider, which could attack me directly if I had no attack position monsters. So i went down to 3500 LP, turn 3 I put down a monster into attack and flipped my facedown up, and did some damage with 2 sparks spell cards and used a red medicine card. Then, put down 2 traps. Im gonna keep this short sinse not much else happens until turn 6. So its back to the opponent, and they activated their Duel skill, which can happen when certain requirements are met. They had the elegent egotist skill and maximum summoned the harpie lady sisters maximum monster. I honestly have a hard time dealing with this monster in general, so it wasn't looking good on my end. It had it's 3 effects that would stop me dead in my tracks, especially with it's 3400 ATK VS. my 3200 LP. The game went on with me struggling to do anything against their monster for over 10 whole turns of me putting monsters in defense position, and his monster using one of its 3 effects to send them all into the graveyard. Turn 21 comes around and I draw the very last cards in my deck, I honestly thought this was a bad way to lose the match, I was about to forfeit the match when I accidentally clicked on one of my facedown traps. Once I saw it I figured out a way to finish my opponent, so I passed my turn, this time without setting a monster down at all. It was now my opponents turn and they instantly went into the battle phase to knock me out, but then I activated a trap card, "The Guard". It allows me to send 3 monsters into my deck from the graveyard of my choosing. I picked my cyber tech alligator, and 2 copies of the same part for my own maximum monster. Turn 23, I was able to draw out the maximum monster part I needed to summon out my Supreme Machine Magnum Overlord. I then activated its first effect, by discarding one card in my hand, it gained ATK points equal to the difference between me and my opponent. With them at 5800 LP and me at 200 LP, it went from 3500 ATK to 9100 ATK. When doing the math, I still didn't have enough for a knockout. So I used its second effect to the graveyard from my deck to get 200 ATK points for each level of my opponents monster which all maximum monsters are level 10. My monster was now at 11,100 ATK points, so I attacked, and it was enough to win me the match. And to add more to the fire, my phone was left on 3% battery by the end of the match so I was on a legit time limit. Thank you reading if you got this far. And I hope you have a good rest of your day/evening/night.
Slow playing, especially this obviously, at an event this big should be an instant DQ and a ban from future events. There is no room for cheats, and slow playing is basically cheating. This event is an esteamed amongst players and a streamed event. Your at the top level. You should know your own decks like the back of your hand at that point, as well as have a decent level of knowledge of other decks at the event. The meta is analyzed everywhere and it's all your playing against. He got to the top 8, so I dont belive hes that naive that he needed a translation or to "think" when he had no meaningful interaction. The guy had his opponent to time if he could find a way to waste it, and there is no other way of looking at this. Well done to the winner for keeping his cool against this scummer and nice job on the judge calling it all out.
Maybe it’s just me, but I got really confused halfway in when I realized when you were saying Mike that you meant Trish, because I thought Mike was the name of the opponent the entire time, so I just imagined Trish staring into space for several minutes in a top cut of a WCS.
With how Yugioh is now, both players should get exactly 5 minutes from the second they begin their turn. At the 5 minute mark, regardless of what you’re doing, it should become the End Phase immediately. This would put an end to infinite combos, trying to run through your entire deck, and slow players. Hate thats what we’ve come to considering in the past the game wasn’t so fast and complicated turn’s wouldn’t take that long but instead duels would run long.
That seems a bit hard to do in practice. What if you're opponent has a card that can interact how do you control the timer when they want to know what cards they should hit with veiler? On something like master duel this isn't a problem, but in person it's just ripe for abuse.
It wouldn't make people not be obnoxious, they'd just figure out how to be obnoxious faster. Mimaxing how many cards they can play in 4 minutes 59 seconds. Talking fast, moving faster, memorizing as many cards as possible. I'd say that's metagaming
Understandable given the opponent kept Sharvara on board. It’s wild to see those kinds of mistakes given how much winning it takes to get to that point, just shows how nervewracking the stakes are.
@@Exiled-i8n I think most people who play this competitively dream of playing at Worlds and it’s a huge and respected achievement it’s more about the glory than the tangible prizing
Honestly: at such points a playerclock would be the solution. Both players get a certain time per duel. Want to check the GY and think if you want to respond? Okay. On YOUR time. Want to waste time with long winded explanations? Okay. Sill your time. If you run out of time: you must respond to each action within 5 seconds for the rest of the duel. Simple. If your time runs out: so too does your chance to respond / your phase. Also prevent non-plays being cycled to waste time.
4:58 i knew a guy that depending on wait time it was highly possible for them to draw from myscle memory when going first. The guy usually had about 3 minutes before his mind wondered.
I feel like instead of time limits, they should have those little clocks that speed chess players use. So if your opponent wants to look at something or respond, you hit your clock, and now they are just wasting their own remaining time.
Explaining any other deck: "Here's a 20 minute monologue that you may understand." Explaining Snake-Eyes: "Here's the Yu-Gi-Oh Rulebook... This is what Snake-Eyes does. I hope you have a few hours."
Only cheater I had was that one friend nobody liked trying to pull a fast one on me when he thought I was distracted looking at my hand, I stopped the one trap he had to counter me, and while i was looking at my hand I noticed him switching the position of his two face downs, the glare I gave him was the threat of a lifetime, he never pulled that s**t again.
Love how for one guy it’s “he had no idea how he possibly ended up with an extra card in hand” and the other it’s “he was purposefully stalling for time”
Sometimes I forget that not everybody actually plays card games. Then there are comments like this trying to imply an extremely common accident couldn't have been an accident
I have a great Yugioh story about the longest game I've ever seen go on, involving and FTK with the card Blue Blooded Oni. It was 2015, and I had somehow made it to the Oceanic World Championship Qualifier with Satellarknights in the awful Nekroz format. (I'm so glad the matt you got for that even also featured Satellarknights.). I had just finished round 1 with a Win, bullying the Nekroz player with a Thunder King 2 set Call of the Haunted, a Solemn Warning, and Vanities Emptyness. As I finish packing up and look up at the timer, I notice there is a few minutes left of the round, so I make a quick trip to the bathroom to refresh myself. Its important to note here, that this was back when you had 5 turns after time was called to finish the match, so games could sometimes take up to 15min extra to finish. So I sit down with my ds to play some good old Exploreres of Sky, and wait it out. 15min go by, and the next round hasnt gone up. I look up, and see basically everyone gathered around the last table that was still playing. At the table was Nathan, who was playing Nekroz, having played what I can only assume was his first setup turn, and another gentleman piloting the most convoluted deck I've ever witnessed. Keep in mind that this was still the first game they were plating, and they were already 15min into overtime. Using a combination of Blue Blooded Oni, Daigusto Emeral, Laval Chain, Utopic F0,m and a bunch of spell cards, I watched at this player spent another half an hour looping these XYZ cards together to draw his whole deck out, as his opponant Nathan slowly got angier and angrier as he had to sit through this insanly though out combo. It eventually culminated in this dude summoning a Tempest Magician, and discarding his whole hand to inflict over 9000 of damage, as Upstart Goblin was heavily played in this format. Nathan almost worms his way out of it with an Effect Veiler, but the gentleman also had a book of moon ready, so the match finished with a single game. 10/10 would watch it play out again.
This is gonna be a pretty interesting one. So a couple weeks ago on a Saturday afternoon, my friend Lucius and I had decided to go to the Saturday local’s at The Coffer Gaming in Downtown Sparks, Reno Nevada. I had spent the night at his house, and that day we were extremely bored and just trying to figure out something to do. I hadn’t been to a tournament in months so I was really excited to play and I was aware of the format being upsetting but I wasn’t prepared enough for the new azimina cards. I was playing traptrix which is a deck I’ve been playing for a while and had taken to the las Vegas regional in June of this year. I went 4-4 and was happy with my results so at this point I was confident in my ability to adapt. My first round I got swept by snake-eye/fire king/azimina and I wasn’t really happy, but I wasn’t upset since I knew I would most likely lose anyways. My round 2 match is where it gets interesting. I had looked at the pairings and I saw that I was paired up with a player who I’ve never really trusted. For the sake of this story we will call him Steve. Steve always reeked of tobacco and just seemed like a really sketchy person, and although it sounds like I was just assuming, I’ve played against him before and he was the type of player that would get annoyed very easily. We sat down and wished each other good luck and he went first and I saw that he was also on snake-eyes azimina so I was a little nervous about winning this one as well. He swept me game one. Game two I went first and I was able to do a little bit because he had bricked on mostly hand traps. I was attempting to play around them. I started by normal summoning traptrix myrmeleo and using its effect to search and he chained effect veiler, I then linked it off for a traptrix sera and then activated the effect of parallel exceed and he chained ash blossom, I then activated traptrip garden, I used the effect banishing my parallel exceed to special summon my myrmeleo from the grave and then attempted to activate the mandatory special summon effect to pop a spell/trap and since it was first turn of course he didn’t have one so he said “you can’t do that”. I look at him with a raised eyebrow and say “yes I can” keep in mind I know this deck like the back of my hand and I know what I’m doing. I then explained to him that since it’s mandatory it would resolve without effect and he then picked up the card and read it. He then says “you can’t activate the effect because I activated effect veiler”. At this point I’m sitting right next to my friend Lucius who is spectating the duel and I look at him lip syncing and ask “is he dumb?”although this sounds arrogant Steve had read the card multiple times and definitely isn’t new to the game. I then say that “because I’m summoning it back from the grave afterwards I can activate the effect”. He then calls the judge over, 10 minutes go by and I start to get frustrated. Lucius and I are just baffled by what’s going on because we play test with each other every single day. The judge rules in my favor and he attempts to activate infinite impermanence to negate my sera, I then explain that “she’s unaffected by trap effects.” Which frustrates him more. After this happens he looks visibly livid and angry. I was scared of conflicting with this person because I’m 17 years old and I don’t wanna argue with a grown man. I rush through my turn because at this point I didn’t even care if I won the match. I made a traptrix rafflesia and passed my turn. I wasn’t really happy with my end-board because I didn’t get to think as much I wanted to. He then goes full combo and I just scoop up my cards and just surrender the duel.
Was at a locals once. I'm on Dinos, opp on Salamangreat. Siding in to game 3, I consider a piece I randomly tried today for just such an occasion. Game 3 begins and we don't have much time left, and I'm player one. Now, my opponent doesn't seem too assed about this and is just kind of chatting and yakking it up with a friend of his. I happen to notice about a few minutes left until time and get my opponent's attention. I was shot-gunning a Pill, asking if they had a response. No Ash, so I drop my side card on the field, Super Conductor Tyranno. I sac it to burn for 1K, set my own Ash in def, and pass. Now opponent realized what was up and started playing fast, but I knew it would take too long for him to combo. Best he'd do is a Wolf, and that wasn't getting over Ash. Sure enough he lost game 3.
Not sure how everyone missed it but during Game 2, when all the enemies' monsters had their effects negated till end of turn, the opponent still activated their effects later during play as a counter-play effect which therefore was outright cheating. They did so not just one, not just twice, but three times, and even summoned monsters from the effects used. Amazing.
Name is Efe I 13 went to my usual local that’s the only place I can go because I live in Turkey. It was the second match because the first match was canceled because of my opponent didn’t come to the duel. I was playing Fire kings. We sit down after a quick chat and start playing . I roll the dice with a 6 and He rolled 2 ,I go first. I had Ponix in my hand and I normal summoned it to start my combo until i activated island He used Ash to disable its effect , I had a called by the grave as a pre-caution so I activated it. He looked at my like I was stupid and said “No you can’t” I will continue later
I’ve made 13 people rage quit the match playing almost pure Drytron since the new cards in info came out. Ending with 3 DAD’s and 2 mu beta fafnir’s with materials attached on the board and more than enough materials for all 6 negates with the DAD’s
I played a lot of rogue decks with no real love of the Meta during around 2013~ I had a Pure-Earth Rock-type deck with 3 copies of each Koaki Meiru negate rock monster and Rivalry of the Warlords and Gozen Match which hard locked so many people and they couldn’t understand why using 2 plant monsters to synchro a dragon-type monster wasn’t allowed. I was a certified judge at the time but so many people challenged me on this to the point they got the LGS’ Judge on some calls. Despite trying to say you picked the monster you want, than the materials and because you picked the end target first it locked you because you can just synchro / XYZ / Tribute into oblivion than decide a monster (Tribute Set is allowed of course). It was a fun counter-deck but could be outpaced quickly.
first extra card in hand was probably a mental lapse due to the delay on play and the pressure of holding up the event as a whole. understandable mistake, the frustration is real.
This isn’t me plugging my own channel, BUT I caught a cheater on camera at locals. He ripped 5 cards on top of his deck. If you wanna see it I posted it, but no pressure 🤝
That slow play should have been issued sooner, the judge instead of glaring should have issued a verbal warning that he was about to issue a slow play if the game continues at this pace. Still would have liked to see the duel.
That’s why I will will never go to these big events, I don’t need hundreds of people giving me a death glare for the massive amount of stress and nerves just to possibly win a playmat and deckbox/prize card.🤣
Stalling and slow play is the reason i stopped attending my local game store as everyone there would just stall and it wasnt really fair on people like me who played normally.
Is there some particular reason they have to share a clock? Why not play like chess where each player has their own timer that goes down as long as its their turn, and if your time runs out you lose?
Honestly card negates were probably one of the worst things to be added to yugioh. Having the ability to special summon all of the cards you want in a single turn and 4 out of 5 of them (plus three magic cards you got on the field) will immediately cancel anything your opponent is doing to the point where you need hand cards to stop a wombo combo from jizzing on your face before you even get a CHANCE to play. I really love the game, but I actually cannot play it because finding a casual community is so hard and you just end up with the most bs things ever. Like that frickin' blue eyes dark mage thing who is immune to literally everything under the sun and all it costed him to arrive was 5000 lp.
Trish: OK, Ready to defeat him. Opponent: Right, if I manage to delay this match just long enough, I win on time out. Judge: For fuck's sakes, Trish wins, you lose, get it into your head.
How did you stretch "I accidentally drew 6 at the start of the duel" into a 13 minute video? I mean I'm here for it, just seems like a bit long for what happened.
He accidentally Drew six at the beginning of the duel and got a game loss. Then his opponent slow played him in game 3. By the way, I wasn't complaining when I said that. It's actually a compliment to be able to stretch something like that into a watchable video.
Those are rumours from his opponent who spread them to his friends to save face. Judges deal with slow play in topcut all the time, claiming their decisions as biased is unrealistic on a bigger scale
@@fatherpucci5775 bruh i witnessed the match first hand i was staring at the match 8 ft away and youre taking the word of a lying cheater lmfao shut up
Hey can someone explain for me, I haven't played in 15 years but don't you start with five cards then draw a card at the start of your turn? So wouldn't it make sense to have played a card then have five remaining on your first turn?
Slight editing mistake at 6:26 by showing the wrong image, hopefully nobody will notice :)
Also go check out the rest of the series: th-cam.com/play/PL1nNPQqvbgabWMZpqDr_lBygup5zdwLjN.html
Oh, you'd made a custom album for these vids already?
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yes i noticed, release the correct image right now or we riot.
My 1. Local was cheating nonstop
Shout out for heart of the cards podcast I found them slightly after finding your channel playing duel links love your content ❤️
Let's go almost at100k
Shame the thumbnail made us believe there was actually a video of the cheat.
Actual clickbait
Wait, there is not?
Thanks, another channel to add to the forbidden list.
... Jesus Christ
Thanks buddy clicking off because of you. You’re a goat
so basically what happened was his opponent having literally nothing to play decided to stall every single turn for as long as possible hoping to win since mike was down 2500 which ultimately backfired
If you’re gonna do that, at least make it a Self Destruct Button deck!
@@BlueShellshock too bad most of the cards that make that deck viable are banned
@@zambekiller including self destruct button
@@TheSimmr001 personally should have just built a burn deck
wouldnt even say it backfired it just diddnt work. from the sound of it he was going to lose so unless there was anything additional he ended up at the same spot as if he hadnt. in other words it costed him nothing to try. still crappy
This exact same kind of thing happened in Magic. Tomoharu Saito would ask to read nearly every card his opponent played in a few of his rounds that were nearing time. In Magic, asking for translations does not "eat up" the clock - A judge will award time extensions. So he could not just do that, he had to physically ask to see the card the opponent was using, would read it, then give it back. Then later in the game and opponent may play the same card and he'd do the same thing again. He was suspended from play & this suspension actually cost him his induction into the Magic: The Gathering Hall of Fame.
Sad part is that I'm the kinda person that does and has to read a card multiple times. It's not malicious, just compelled and feel the need to do so
@@ashemabahumat4173😂
Wow that‘s interesting, thanks for sharing!❤😄
God you are so cringe
@@ashemabahumat4173 yea but youre not a pro player
"The year was 2024."
Me: By god... I'm in the future.
Were all still trying to process 2020 it could be any yesr…
You're always in the future. The past is destroyed and the now was then.
@@rodneysmith873 Your comment reeks of "I'm 14 and this is deep"
I hate to "Uhm ackshually", but I find linguistics really interesting at times so I'll subject you to this anyway: "The year was X" means that at the time of Y happening, the year was X. So unless the thing is still going on (or will go on in the future somehow? That would be interesting), "the year was X" is perfectly fine to say; it doesn't matter when the tale is being told!
That's because "was" is past tense, hence why the phrase "It was the year X when Y occurred" works any time in the past even if that includes the present year. Just because the year is 2024 now doesn't prevent it from being he year 2024 before simply due to the way we tell time (that is, we tell time in chunks we call units, like seconds, minutes, hours, etc.). Basically, it was, is, and will be 2024 when X happened, where Y is happening, and when Z will happen.
From,
A guy not particularly interested in linguistics.
Jesus Christ no wonder this match didnt get that write up in the end
Is the write up showcased LIVE or something? Why can't they record the match and then write about it after?
@@idle_user in many cases, the players don't even talk to each other. There's a funny video somewhere of a guy playing his entire hand as hand-traps and literally just lowering his hand every time the opponent was about to say their action XD
@@idle_user they might not have had a recording setup for the match in question. In theory a guy with a pad and paper is a simpler option to record how the match went
Slow play is one of the most shit and toxic thing you can do
and it show how he doesnt respect his enemy
Thing is, people arent very good at recognising what is legit slowplay and when people are actually taking their time to consider a play.
Had a guy try to force a judge call by drawing an extra card since I was playing dinomorphia
Honestly this, this pisses me off so much about large combo decks and the people who run them.
I'll sit through your Bullsh**, I'll take my turn and if it doesn't pan out I'll let them go for the kill, until their dmba**es decide to do a whole other 12 combos when all they need to do is freaking attack for game.
At that point I scoop because at that point fk u.
what is funny is that 3 game had a miss play in it that would have won trishula the game before that
he never got read of his sharvara before sommoning out the S:P
They exist in every game. Even when its not actually a tournament. Its just a casual online experience, and they just get that butthurt.
For people who don’t know Yugioh, and don’t know snake eyes. Imagine that one kid that in games is a min-maxing munchkin that refuses to admit they are overpowered, makes everything about them, and wont let anyone else have the spotlight. Also since u are playing at their house you have no choice but to play with them or leave.
What a cringe comment. You need a break from the internet, no wonder you're single
and don't forget that they try to take your cards and can play with them instead of you XD
I dont know yu gi oh, so thanks for this because i do know the feeling you described
So it's the YGO equivalent of Slivers in Magic?
To be fair if I opened ghost girl and spooky dogwood I might actually end their turn with 30k health “I play aromage and it’s fun to play against meta because I can just blow up their entire board if I wanted after that”
I would say only mikes opponent intentionally cheated. Mike's drawing a 6 card hand at the start could be considered cheating, but it would also just be a genuine fuck up.
It's kind of funny how seriously Yugioh tries to take itself for a game where players in top 8 of a world championship qualifier will just literally forget how their cards work
Yugioh got kinda silly (yes i know how ironic that sounds) after they added pendulum monsters tbh, at this point, make a whole new type of card game
I mean that's in line with the anime so makes sense the irl players would be the same :P
A friend described it perfectly:
They added a bunch of shit to keep it relevant and ultimately made a garbled mess you TRY to understand...
Or you hope everyone else is as confused as you and doesn't realize you just played a Card wrong.
@@MikayaAkyo Proof positive that the Pokemon (VG) strat of adding a new gimmick every generation and then immediately dumping it so as not to make things too complicated isn't as stupid an idea as most people make it out to be.
@pantsniffler4011 it got silly with Pendulum, but introducing Links and making them mandatory for so long really hurt the game imo.
The only cheater I ever played in Yugioh was an after school match where I noticed that my opponent's top card never changed while they were "shuffling" told him I wanted to cut his deck, he refused, top card was flipped, pre-erata future fusion to go with the dragons mirror in his hand.
Dang man winning a school yard duel with his special two peice combo must have meant alot to him.
Bro just wanted it more
once at locals, I was in the final round, dueling for 1st, and before game one, my opponent and I were doing our shuffling, but I noticed he just seemed to be moving bricks of his deck around, then he places his deck in the deck zone instead of handing it to me to cut. I asked to cut the deck and he said "No, you don't have to, I shuffled really good.", I asked 2 more times very nicely before I called a judge over to enforce the cut because at this point I think he's cheating. I explained the situation and the judge said that I do get the chance to cut the deck, which made the guy across from me huff and basically have a mini freakout. Because he refused to let me cut the deck, the guy took a game loss but then just ended up quitting and giving me the match in his fit. The judge asked the opponent to look at his deck real quick, and they said "whatever, idgaf" as they packed their other stuff, so the judge looked through it and when he got to those top cards, he laughed. The judge told me after prizing that the top 5 cards were 4 pieces of Exodia and a Sangan. Dealt with many cheaters in my life, but that was just one of the most blatant, lol.
@@SageTigerStar how long ago was this? Crazy to think these people walk among us
@@cheesycheese7100 bout a decade ago lol
spoilers: he got a little too excited and you know how the rest goes
He crumbed
💦🤷
Is there a reason why official Yu-Gi-Oh matches don't implement chess timers? It would solve any stalling issues like this in the future.
We live in a Timeline where Games go on for two-three Turns. But the turns take Like 15 min... So i guess an antique sandclock would need
Be enough*
it would be a good idea, yeah
Turn 1
Draw End of Draw *click*
*click*
Standby End of Standby *click*
*click*
Main, activate spell *click*
No response *click*
And so on and so forth
Context matters, which is why Judge issue slow play warnings based on their own discretion rather than how much time players take up.
I may not be player in TCG anymore but slow play is one of the most disrespectful things you can do any TCG series. I'm glad the opponent got what was coming to them
That's a really weird difference in Yugioh and Magic, once you're in top 8 there is no time limit in games. I feel like that would be a small quality of life change just to take some stress off of the players in the top 8
Yknow that’s actually not a bad idea I would really love a change like that. It probably wouldn’t affect me personally but it makes sense for the very high level players. No cheesing out time wins there would be hype as hell
Maybe watching games would be fun again. Maybe less "misplays" happen and Player Start to Play the Game rule d'accord and not Like yugioh Anime First season
it seems small but every competent ygo player would disagree because then it would make players' decks worse for top cut or at least it would force players to choose between deckbuilding for swiss or for top cut because and this is especially true this format, time is a big factor and players have multiple cards ready to combat that.
@@geometrydashtzolkin1025bro just get out of here lmao
There’s little I hate more about Yugioh these days than the timer. In both Master Duel and the TCG. Nothing feels worse than losing a duel to the timer that you know you could’ve won if you’d only had just a little more time.
For those who wanna know what snake-eyes does:
Search ash, summon ash, ash search poplar, poplar summon, search spell/trap, summon flamberge, loop flamberge float to link climb for free ‘till you got promethean princess in GY and a 20 negate/interrupts on board
Pure fun.
I would go afk too If i dont have any stupid handtrap. Imagine playing chess and you are allowed to Take 20 turns in a row. Who would Play that sht
Incomprehensible have a great day
@@MultiWar10ckChess but your opponent is allowed to promote every single pawn turn 1
My favorite story is during Wind Up Rabbit format post hand rip loop ban I was playing against a guy. We’re game 3 we’ve had a lot of close back to backs. Dude plays duality. Reveals 3 duality.
As someone who doesn't know much about Yu-Gi-Oh this is just absolute gibberish to me lol
@ you can only play 3 of a card in your deck. Pot of duality reveals 3 cards from the top of your deck then you pick one to add to your hand. He revealed 3 pot of duality.
He had four of the same card in a deck
Deadass 3rd rate dualist with a fourth rate deck
Lol! The background img at 10:33 is a combo sheet I made for myself when Snake-Eye came out in master duel hahahah I almost fell of my chair when I saw it :D great story as always
Do you have a link to where the image is at?
@@angelsibrian5085asking for this too bro
Man I hate slow players. I remember being 30 minutes over time in a round in a magic tournament after a 5 minute time extention because my opponent was taking all this super unnecessary game action. Let's just say the room was happy when I finally killed him
Everyone clapped
Had it happen at locals. Dude was under shifter on tear, just making nothing actions in time so that I wouldn't kill him next turn knowing I had lethal in hand. His friends sided with his play, and it's technically legal actions too, but it's pretty scummy and takes the fun away from things.
@@JamFlexx so I'm not really sure on the yugioh meta and how your guys games work. But in magic we have a card Calle the one ring and that card gives you protection for a turn and dude was just making unnecessary land drops that normal could do 3 damage to you but I can't take damage so dude was holding up the entire tournament taking dumb actions and stalling after we where already in time. In magic you get 5 turns after the round has ended to see who wins. It's was the dumbest waste of time for me to just kill his ass the next turn and send him home at 0-2 in basically a regional qualifiers
@@mrskittles6486As a yugioh player let me translate what the dude above u said, so he facing a deck called “tear”, this deck fully functions on using the their own graveyard, he used a card called “shifter”(dimensional shifter” which his effects makes every card get banished instead of going to the graveyard, which completely shuts down tear’s entire deck bc they NEED the graveyard
I'm not purposely slow. Anikthea just has too many effects going on at 1 time, now I made a game last wayyy to long cause we were all board wiping
I have a story bout a cheater too. My local is having a 1st sanction tournament. So a few of new faces are showing up at our local, and we are excited cause we got to play against new people. The 1st round to smoothly. The 2nd round I got to play against floo, he go first, he set up board, normal robina ya da ya da and end phase. My turn, play Dino, so I know I can play thru this easily. Draw phase, he said, wait, okayy wait, and he start to move weirdly, his hand with the cards go below the table. I think, okay he maybe nervous because new place and he quite young. he move his hands below the table, and then take his hand out, shifter effect. I said, "ahh shit", alright at least I can make something with ovi in hand. I normal summon Ovi and he immediately use harpie storm. And I think, wow, he got crack hand. Can't do shit with it. And we go game 2.
Because I didn't need to side against floo, I just wait for him. I kid you not, the whole time he keep bring his ENTIRE DECK below the table, and I immediately know this kid most likely cheating. Suffle done, my draw phase, he activate shifter immediately. Okay this is not even funny anymore, I know the odd of opening shifter (2 in OCG) every game is pretty low. I made bagooska and pass. He start his turn, manage to clear bagooska, but can't kill me. My turn, I manage to OTK him.
Game 3, before the game I make excuse to talk to judge about card translation, I whisper to the judge that I suspect him for cheating, the judge said he will monitor him quitely. Start of the game 3, he set up his board, and before my turn, the judge stop the game. Cause he make his odd move again (hands below the table etc). Judge immediately count his deck, and all the cards, and to no one surprise he only has 37 cards, 15 cards siding still there, and the judge ask him where the other 3 cards. He panicked, said some nonsense words, and go to his bag and pretend that his cards are left in the bag, and he's okay with game lost.
I don't want to make a big scene because this is the 1st sanction game in our local, my friend is the owner, so out of respect I don't want everyone else feels bad.
The judge sit beside him for the rest of the rounds and I kid you not, when shuffling the deck he keep bring the deck down the table everytime the judge going patrol. And he got caught another time but he said that his cards fell down the table "most likely he threw them"
After the tournament, he quickly go back with his friends. I ask his other opponent, in the round 1 his opponent got shiffter'ed 3 games in a row by him. But the floo player still manage to lose.
I can't believe the guts to cheat so badly, it's not the sleigh of hands, not some fancy trick, he thought we are idiots who can't tell he's blattantly cheating.
The judge said he will mark him up in the judge chat group, and tell everyone else about his antic.
I had something similar yeeears ago during goat format. This dude (easily 25+ years old) would shuffle his hand between turns when the pressure was on and would always drop a few cards. After picking the cards up and during his next turn he would always set at least one backrow. It was a ring of destruction - every. damn. time. Dude got caught eventually and what he did was kinda genius. His matte sleeves matched the black carpet so he would place the ring face down underneath his chair/had his foot on it so no one would notice it, wait until he could ring for game and drop his cards. Ever since that I always check under chairs/tables for cards stashed there. Under the table is because a few years after that incident someone would stick cards underneath the table with gum.
Are you kidding me he was blatantly obvious with it and was caught multiple times yet he wasn't disqualified because he just happened to has an excuse every time?
Man I feel cheated and I didn't even battle him.
@@zambekiller if you're talking about my case, the only reason I don't make a big scene is that this is the 1st local in my friend place. I don't want others to have bad impression, and I personally request the judge not to make a big scene because of it. We just make sure he will has bad reputation on the judge circle.
@@frank8william some what both my own frustrations with the blatant cheating in tournaments and just the sheer balls that person had
If i was the judge i would have given him the loss right when he staid afk and looked at 3card extra deck. Damn losers trying to win with time doing jackashiat...
Lol asking for a translation for OSS in the heart of Snake-Eyes format is like asking what Pot of Greed does. The audacity of this slow playing man 😂
Well yeah but what does pot of greed do?
@zambekiller you can summon it to draw 3 additional cards from your deck!
@@mikehawk8984 wow that sounds incredibly complicated they should make an entire tournament around it
@zambekiller They'd never understand the rulings. Greed is above all of the sins.
@@mikehawk8984 I know my deck is comprised of almost nothing but greed cards
The time issues with stallers would be solved if the players each had their own timers like in chess, where each player has only their own time to run up.
Encourages shenanigans lol
Ive accidentally drew too many cards on start a bunch of times because sometimes cards stick. Thats why i started just drawing one at a time so that never happens.
Slow players are literally a plague on the game. Legitimate consideration time is fine, but when you're doing it just to drag it into time to cheese a win, yeah, you're scum. There's a guy at my locals who does this....
Keep calling them out, either they'll stop doing it or they'll get so embarrassed they'll stop showing up
@Vampireinarm1 he usually gets flustered, stops doing it and starts misplaying because he's annoyed when called out. It's a shame as he is a technically good player but if he's not going 2-0, feels the need to slow play to ensure the win game 3
Yeah slow play has been hate ever since Pegasus did it in episode 2
Real life bandit Keith.
Bandit Keith would be offended to know he got compared to that guy
These story videos for Yu-Gi-Oh are honestly really nice. Super easy to get into after not playing Yu-Gi-Oh as much anymore 💪
Glad you like them! Been trying to make them easy to understand as I get a few MTG/Pkm people watching
Fun story of my own to share here.
Back in Zoodiac format, I was a wee college lad running on fumes for a high tier deck. Considering the format was tier 0 and was extremely special summon reliant, I decided to build up a Barrier Statue Stun deck to bring to a Regional.
Regional was packed, running over 300 players. I have my goblin of a deck outfitted with a 15 card extra deck for some juicy Cherries targets to go after Zoodiac and other random rogue decks that remained semi-popular during the time. These were main-decked, which got me some pretty hefty wins against Zoodiac when their Drident was removed as a possibility to play on their turn 1 if I lost die roll.
After a Mermail loss (Running 3 Water statues didn't do me any favors in that game) round 1, I managed to win my next 4 matches and went 4-1 into round 6. My opponent was on Kaiju Zoodiac, which is a dream match up.. if I went first. I unfortunately did not win the die roll, and was forced to go 2nd.
Game 1 I held on for quite a while between a gross combination of Fossil Dyna + Dimension Guardian & Moon Mirror Shield, keeping my good boy alive and kicking through any form of removal and battle tricks. I unfortunately ate a Dimensional Prison and lost him on the turn I drew a Dark Bribe to keep it ticking. The game fell apart after that.
Game 2 I set up with a statue and 4 backrow, including Dark Bribe, a Solemn, and Dimension Guardian. He was unable to clear my backrow and I whittled him down for game.
Game 3 is where it got spicy. He ended his turn 1 with a Drident and known Whiptail in hand. 2 backrow were set as well. Drawing for turn, I had a Fossil Dyna, a Phantom Knights' Sword to keep it protected, alongside a Dark Bribe and Torrential. This seemed solid.. if I could survive the Whiptail play. I don't think he'd be able to break the board if I got set up, but I couldn't Normal the Dyna or it would just die. Instead, I set the Dyna and my full hand minus the extra statue in my hand and passed it over.
He draws for turn and does another Zoodiac loop into a second Drident with Whiptail underneath it. In Battle Phase, he swings at my face-down Dyna with the Whiptail'd Drident, which would remove my Dyna if it resolves, even if he took it out with it. I respond with a Storming Mirror Force, which would bounce his full board. In response, he uses Book of Eclipse to attempt to save the monsters. I HEAVILY eye my set dark bribe, but let it go through, knowing what will happen next.
He sets a spell (Later to be known as My Body as a Shield, which makes it all the funnier) and passes. During End Phase, his Book of Eclipse's secondary effect flips up my face-down fossil dyna and draws me a card. This flip triggers the Fossil Dyna to destroy his 2 face-down Dridents. FUMING, the guy calls a judge attempting to say I cheated by drawing a card during end phase without giving him a chance to respond. The judge looks over and sees the Eclipse in his GY and my face-up Fossil Dyna. He simply asks, "Is this End Phase?". I respond with a "mmhmm" and nod at the BoE in his GY. He then asks, "Were those set monsters last special summoned?", to which I also provide a yes to. In the coolest demeanor he can, the judge says, "Does turn player have a response to the Fossil Dyna's effect attempting to destroy all special summoned monsters?" to which my opponent grows red in the face for and angrily moves the face-down stacks to GY.
The duel completely moves into my favor afterwards, where the now 2000 ATK Fossil Dyna from PK Sword rams into his face for 3 consecutive turns alongside a Wind barrier statue for game. At the end of the duel, my opponent doesn't even look at me. He grabs the match slip, checks off "Drop" without even signing his name, and leaves after slamming the pen back down.
EASILY one of my favorite Yugioh moments.
Sore Zoo loser, I bet he raged worse when Zoos got killed.
"...a wee college lad running on fumes"
I don't think you know what "running on fumes" means.
@TheRidgeMan mans was playing a $20 deck, I'm pretty sure that's running on fumes
Fossil dyna? Yea you didn't deserve to win
@@TheRidgeMan Pretty sure you don't. He was probably skipping meals to pay for his deck LOL
So the guy squeaked out a technicality, then tried to cheat by stalling to try and squeak another technicality win by clock out.
Hopefully they guy got shamed out of the tournament for such a scummy attempt to steal out a win they didn't deserve.
My worst story with slow play isn't directly Yugioh-related but it was at a Magic GP against someone who played Yugioh at our local. He was up a game and were in game 2 but I had lethal on board while he only had one card in his hand. He took 5 minutes to ask me what every single card did despite the fact that he already saw my cards in a long game 1 and at one point asked me for a translation for a card I'd already used 4 times between games 1 and 2 at that point. After I asked him to hurry up because we're both going to lose out on making day 2 if we don't finish the round he tried to defend his position by saying he'd win if it went to time -- this is not true in MTG but I wasn't about to take up more time explaining everything wrong with what he just said.
I called a judge over immediately after that, explaining the situation and that my opponent seemingly implied that he was intentionally stalling. The judge pulled my opponent aside to talk to him. When my opponent came back he was given a slow play warning and we were given a time extension. My opponent conceded game 2, revealing that the only card in his hand was a BASIC LAND, meaning he didn't even have any decision to make aside from just playing the land and accepting his fate. The judge was still there and watching our game at this point and, before we picked up our board to shuffle up for game 3 he paused us to look at the board state, then proceeded to give my opponent a DQ for intentional stalling since it was clear at that point that my opponent was trying to gain an advantage by running out the clock.
3:46 Damn that hand was so nutty he drew 7 cards 😂
Heres a story, up to you if you pit it in because its different from the normal ones.
Back in April of this year I was bored at an event for a parents job, so i decided to load up Yugioh Duel Links on my phone to pass the time. In the game, there was an event that gave you more rewards for Rush Dueling, so I went in, not ready for what was gonna happen later. I was basically having a 50/50 win loss situation but still going at it. Then the match started against someone from Taiwan, I got to go first on the match, saldy my hand wasn't that good so i had to set 4 of my cards face down, 1 monster and the others were spell cards so that I could hopefully get something better. During my opponents turn they placed one card face down and tributed out a kimeruler the dark raider, which could attack me directly if I had no attack position monsters. So i went down to 3500 LP, turn 3 I put down a monster into attack and flipped my facedown up, and did some damage with 2 sparks spell cards and used a red medicine card. Then, put down 2 traps. Im gonna keep this short sinse not much else happens until turn 6. So its back to the opponent, and they activated their Duel skill, which can happen when certain requirements are met. They had the elegent egotist skill and maximum summoned the harpie lady sisters maximum monster. I honestly have a hard time dealing with this monster in general, so it wasn't looking good on my end. It had it's 3 effects that would stop me dead in my tracks, especially with it's 3400 ATK VS. my 3200 LP. The game went on with me struggling to do anything against their monster for over 10 whole turns of me putting monsters in defense position, and his monster using one of its 3 effects to send them all into the graveyard. Turn 21 comes around and I draw the very last cards in my deck, I honestly thought this was a bad way to lose the match, I was about to forfeit the match when I accidentally clicked on one of my facedown traps. Once I saw it I figured out a way to finish my opponent, so I passed my turn, this time without setting a monster down at all. It was now my opponents turn and they instantly went into the battle phase to knock me out, but then I activated a trap card, "The Guard". It allows me to send 3 monsters into my deck from the graveyard of my choosing. I picked my cyber tech alligator, and 2 copies of the same part for my own maximum monster. Turn 23, I was able to draw out the maximum monster part I needed to summon out my Supreme Machine Magnum Overlord. I then activated its first effect, by discarding one card in my hand, it gained ATK points equal to the difference between me and my opponent. With them at 5800 LP and me at 200 LP, it went from 3500 ATK to 9100 ATK. When doing the math, I still didn't have enough for a knockout. So I used its second effect to the graveyard from my deck to get 200 ATK points for each level of my opponents monster which all maximum monsters are level 10. My monster was now at 11,100 ATK points, so I attacked, and it was enough to win me the match. And to add more to the fire, my phone was left on 3% battery by the end of the match so I was on a legit time limit.
Thank you reading if you got this far. And I hope you have a good rest of your day/evening/night.
Literally no one is reading that learn how paragraphs (and brevity) works stupid
Fighting Snake Eyes is like playing blackjack but the dealer is allowed to change the card values after they draw.
Slow playing, especially this obviously, at an event this big should be an instant DQ and a ban from future events. There is no room for cheats, and slow playing is basically cheating. This event is an esteamed amongst players and a streamed event.
Your at the top level. You should know your own decks like the back of your hand at that point, as well as have a decent level of knowledge of other decks at the event. The meta is analyzed everywhere and it's all your playing against. He got to the top 8, so I dont belive hes that naive that he needed a translation or to "think" when he had no meaningful interaction. The guy had his opponent to time if he could find a way to waste it, and there is no other way of looking at this. Well done to the winner for keeping his cool against this scummer and nice job on the judge calling it all out.
Maybe it’s just me, but I got really confused halfway in when I realized when you were saying Mike that you meant Trish, because I thought Mike was the name of the opponent the entire time, so I just imagined Trish staring into space for several minutes in a top cut of a WCS.
With how Yugioh is now, both players should get exactly 5 minutes from the second they begin their turn. At the 5 minute mark, regardless of what you’re doing, it should become the End Phase immediately. This would put an end to infinite combos, trying to run through your entire deck, and slow players. Hate thats what we’ve come to considering in the past the game wasn’t so fast and complicated turn’s wouldn’t take that long but instead duels would run long.
That seems a bit hard to do in practice. What if you're opponent has a card that can interact how do you control the timer when they want to know what cards they should hit with veiler? On something like master duel this isn't a problem, but in person it's just ripe for abuse.
It wouldn't make people not be obnoxious, they'd just figure out how to be obnoxious faster.
Mimaxing how many cards they can play in 4 minutes 59 seconds.
Talking fast, moving faster, memorizing as many cards as possible. I'd say that's metagaming
"it was a nutty hand"
I mean, tbf, he is playing snake eyes, i almost never hear a snake eyes player say their hand sucked xD
For them, their hand sucks if there's a theoretical chance that the opponent will last more than 1 turn outside of the mirror match
You gotta appreciate the dude for winning without divine temple. Trish the goat
Understandable given the opponent kept Sharvara on board. It’s wild to see those kinds of mistakes given how much winning it takes to get to that point, just shows how nervewracking the stakes are.
It's still snake eyes dood 😂
@@DylligraphyThe "stakes" is a switch and some useless vanilla card lol. I think it has more to do with all eyes being on them
@@Exiled-i8n I think most people who play this competitively dream of playing at Worlds and it’s a huge and respected achievement it’s more about the glory than the tangible prizing
Win without a Meta deck then I might be impressed
Honestly: at such points a playerclock would be the solution. Both players get a certain time per duel.
Want to check the GY and think if you want to respond? Okay. On YOUR time. Want to waste time with long winded explanations? Okay. Sill your time. If you run out of time: you must respond to each action within 5 seconds for the rest of the duel. Simple. If your time runs out: so too does your chance to respond / your phase.
Also prevent non-plays being cycled to waste time.
4:58 i knew a guy that depending on wait time it was highly possible for them to draw from myscle memory when going first. The guy usually had about 3 minutes before his mind wondered.
I feel like instead of time limits, they should have those little clocks that speed chess players use. So if your opponent wants to look at something or respond, you hit your clock, and now they are just wasting their own remaining time.
im surprised he didn’t ask how much time was in the clock, thats all he was really waiting for xD
Snake eye is basically 1 card from performing cold fision and solving world hunger...
Explaining any other deck: "Here's a 20 minute monologue that you may understand."
Explaining Snake-Eyes: "Here's the Yu-Gi-Oh Rulebook... This is what Snake-Eyes does. I hope you have a few hours."
sounds like julian schwarzkopf the winner of german nationals with his plants. He always slow plays and no judge says something
Plant players are incapable of not stalling
played against some insect/plant deck recently and they did something like a 50 card combo. It's nuts what some decks can accomplish.
I love mikanko against them. I tell them 'no handtraps, go nuts'
Then attempt to blow up field otk lol
Games in tournaments are timed for practicality, not so you can play for an alternative win condition. Playing for time should be an immediate ban.
Only cheater I had was that one friend nobody liked trying to pull a fast one on me when he thought I was distracted looking at my hand, I stopped the one trap he had to counter me, and while i was looking at my hand I noticed him switching the position of his two face downs, the glare I gave him was the threat of a lifetime, he never pulled that s**t again.
A misplay in game one, to a legitimate game two, to a degenerate game three from his opponent. A genuine pendulum swing there.
Imagine knowing youre gonna lose, and instead of owning it like a man, you drag the timer out in an effort to win by default.
its beautiful to see someone playing snake eyes get screwed
Love how for one guy it’s “he had no idea how he possibly ended up with an extra card in hand” and the other it’s “he was purposefully stalling for time”
Because that’s what happened?
Nobody would actually just draw an extra card on purpose with someone watching the match and recording every minute detail
Sometimes I forget that not everybody actually plays card games. Then there are comments like this trying to imply an extremely common accident couldn't have been an accident
Coal take
I have a great Yugioh story about the longest game I've ever seen go on, involving and FTK with the card Blue Blooded Oni.
It was 2015, and I had somehow made it to the Oceanic World Championship Qualifier with Satellarknights in the awful Nekroz format. (I'm so glad the matt you got for that even also featured Satellarknights.).
I had just finished round 1 with a Win, bullying the Nekroz player with a Thunder King 2 set Call of the Haunted, a Solemn Warning, and Vanities Emptyness. As I finish packing up and look up at the timer, I notice there is a few minutes left of the round, so I make a quick trip to the bathroom to refresh myself. Its important to note here, that this was back when you had 5 turns after time was called to finish the match, so games could sometimes take up to 15min extra to finish. So I sit down with my ds to play some good old Exploreres of Sky, and wait it out.
15min go by, and the next round hasnt gone up. I look up, and see basically everyone gathered around the last table that was still playing. At the table was Nathan, who was playing Nekroz, having played what I can only assume was his first setup turn, and another gentleman piloting the most convoluted deck I've ever witnessed. Keep in mind that this was still the first game they were plating, and they were already 15min into overtime.
Using a combination of Blue Blooded Oni, Daigusto Emeral, Laval Chain, Utopic F0,m and a bunch of spell cards, I watched at this player spent another half an hour looping these XYZ cards together to draw his whole deck out, as his opponant Nathan slowly got angier and angrier as he had to sit through this insanly though out combo. It eventually culminated in this dude summoning a Tempest Magician, and discarding his whole hand to inflict over 9000 of damage, as Upstart Goblin was heavily played in this format. Nathan almost worms his way out of it with an Effect Veiler, but the gentleman also had a book of moon ready, so the match finished with a single game.
10/10 would watch it play out again.
Love the video and the story, thanks for the playlist!❤😊
I will still never forget the stupidity of the one player that thought Blue-Eyes White Dragon wasn't a Bue-Eyes monster.
This is gonna be a pretty interesting one. So a couple weeks ago on a Saturday afternoon, my friend Lucius and I had decided to go to the Saturday local’s at The Coffer Gaming in Downtown Sparks, Reno Nevada. I had spent the night at his house, and that day we were extremely bored and just trying to figure out something to do. I hadn’t been to a tournament in months so I was really excited to play and I was aware of the format being upsetting but I wasn’t prepared enough for the new azimina cards. I was playing traptrix which is a deck I’ve been playing for a while and had taken to the las Vegas regional in June of this year. I went 4-4 and was happy with my results so at this point I was confident in my ability to adapt. My first round I got swept by snake-eye/fire king/azimina and I wasn’t really happy, but I wasn’t upset since I knew I would most likely lose anyways. My round 2 match is where it gets interesting. I had looked at the pairings and I saw that I was paired up with a player who I’ve never really trusted. For the sake of this story we will call him Steve. Steve always reeked of tobacco and just seemed like a really sketchy person, and although it sounds like I was just assuming, I’ve played against him before and he was the type of player that would get annoyed very easily. We sat down and wished each other good luck and he went first and I saw that he was also on snake-eyes azimina so I was a little nervous about winning this one as well. He swept me game one. Game two I went first and I was able to do a little bit because he had bricked on mostly hand traps. I was attempting to play around them. I started by normal summoning traptrix myrmeleo and using its effect to search and he chained effect veiler, I then linked it off for a traptrix sera and then activated the effect of parallel exceed and he chained ash blossom, I then activated traptrip garden, I used the effect banishing my parallel exceed to special summon my myrmeleo from the grave and then attempted to activate the mandatory special summon effect to pop a spell/trap and since it was first turn of course he didn’t have one so he said “you can’t do that”. I look at him with a raised eyebrow and say “yes I can” keep in mind I know this deck like the back of my hand and I know what I’m doing. I then explained to him that since it’s mandatory it would resolve without effect and he then picked up the card and read it. He then says “you can’t activate the effect because I activated effect veiler”. At this point I’m sitting right next to my friend Lucius who is spectating the duel and I look at him lip syncing and ask “is he dumb?”although this sounds arrogant Steve had read the card multiple times and definitely isn’t new to the game. I then say that “because I’m summoning it back from the grave afterwards I can activate the effect”. He then calls the judge over, 10 minutes go by and I start to get frustrated. Lucius and I are just baffled by what’s going on because we play test with each other every single day. The judge rules in my favor and he attempts to activate infinite impermanence to negate my sera, I then explain that “she’s unaffected by trap effects.” Which frustrates him more. After this happens he looks visibly livid and angry. I was scared of conflicting with this person because I’m 17 years old and I don’t wanna argue with a grown man. I rush through my turn because at this point I didn’t even care if I won the match. I made a traptrix rafflesia and passed my turn. I wasn’t really happy with my end-board because I didn’t get to think as much I wanted to. He then goes full combo and I just scoop up my cards and just surrender the duel.
Why not just film and record the entire duel and have the writer take notes for the article as their leisure
This is why I love OPTCG's 3 round rule. You cant slow play to win.
Never heard of both ends of a game ending on technicalities before a game
i like that i paused on the bracket to see the name as if i know anyone
Was at a locals once. I'm on Dinos, opp on Salamangreat. Siding in to game 3, I consider a piece I randomly tried today for just such an occasion. Game 3 begins and we don't have much time left, and I'm player one. Now, my opponent doesn't seem too assed about this and is just kind of chatting and yakking it up with a friend of his. I happen to notice about a few minutes left until time and get my opponent's attention. I was shot-gunning a Pill, asking if they had a response. No Ash, so I drop my side card on the field, Super Conductor Tyranno. I sac it to burn for 1K, set my own Ash in def, and pass. Now opponent realized what was up and started playing fast, but I knew it would take too long for him to combo. Best he'd do is a Wolf, and that wasn't getting over Ash. Sure enough he lost game 3.
Not sure how everyone missed it but during Game 2, when all the enemies' monsters had their effects negated till end of turn, the opponent still activated their effects later during play as a counter-play effect which therefore was outright cheating. They did so not just one, not just twice, but three times, and even summoned monsters from the effects used. Amazing.
Name is Efe
I 13 went to my usual local that’s the only place I can go because I live in Turkey. It was the second match because the first match was canceled because of my opponent didn’t come to the duel.
I was playing Fire kings. We sit down after a quick chat and start playing . I roll the dice with a 6 and He rolled 2 ,I go first. I had Ponix in my hand and I normal summoned it to start my combo until i activated island He used Ash to disable its effect , I had a called by the grave as a pre-caution so I activated it. He looked at my like I was stupid and said “No you can’t”
I will continue later
Honestly, there should be a rule in tourney's where if the game time's out, you get a LP penalty based on how much time that person personally took
I’ve made 13 people rage quit the match playing almost pure Drytron since the new cards in info came out. Ending with 3 DAD’s and 2 mu beta fafnir’s with materials attached on the board and more than enough materials for all 6 negates with the DAD’s
back in my day, you started with 5 and drew 1 card at the start of your turn, so people commonly just picked up 6 cards when they went first
Always love your duel stories loom ❤
two cheaters playing against eachother. wonder how many other rounds the guy had an "oopsie" and drew 6 cards in his opener
I played a lot of rogue decks with no real love of the Meta during around 2013~ I had a Pure-Earth Rock-type deck with 3 copies of each Koaki Meiru negate rock monster and Rivalry of the Warlords and Gozen Match which hard locked so many people and they couldn’t understand why using 2 plant monsters to synchro a dragon-type monster wasn’t allowed. I was a certified judge at the time but so many people challenged me on this to the point they got the LGS’ Judge on some calls. Despite trying to say you picked the monster you want, than the materials and because you picked the end target first it locked you because you can just synchro / XYZ / Tribute into oblivion than decide a monster (Tribute Set is allowed of course). It was a fun counter-deck but could be outpaced quickly.
first extra card in hand was probably a mental lapse due to the delay on play and the pressure of holding up the event as a whole. understandable mistake, the frustration is real.
oh yeah... worlds is this weekend...
This isn’t me plugging my own channel, BUT I caught a cheater on camera at locals. He ripped 5 cards on top of his deck. If you wanna see it I posted it, but no pressure 🤝
That slow play should have been issued sooner, the judge instead of glaring should have issued a verbal warning that he was about to issue a slow play if the game continues at this pace.
Still would have liked to see the duel.
Some of the card names are a bit crazy. "Ghost Mourner & Moonlit Chill" haha.
Plays snake-eye
*Overwhelming judgement from the community*
"2024, marvel stopped making garbage"
citing the... pussified version of deadpool with agatha right there? cmooooon
We need the chess style timer for this kind of events.
Hilarious that the rules are that loose that it took them this long to call slow play
this video feels like it was written and narrated by AI
That’s why I will will never go to these big events, I don’t need hundreds of people giving me a death glare for the massive amount of stress and nerves just to possibly win a playmat and deckbox/prize card.🤣
Stuff like this is why I 100% prefer digital clients
Stalling and slow play is the reason i stopped attending my local game store as everyone there would just stall and it wasnt really fair on people like me who played normally.
Hey! Don’t blame all of Australia for ray gun. I can’t dance, know it, and therefore wouldn’t go to a competition to compete.
Is there some particular reason they have to share a clock? Why not play like chess where each player has their own timer that goes down as long as its their turn, and if your time runs out you lose?
I just realized in the anime hand, Kuriboh is missing its level!
Level 0 before Xyz
Honestly card negates were probably one of the worst things to be added to yugioh. Having the ability to special summon all of the cards you want in a single turn and 4 out of 5 of them (plus three magic cards you got on the field) will immediately cancel anything your opponent is doing to the point where you need hand cards to stop a wombo combo from jizzing on your face before you even get a CHANCE to play.
I really love the game, but I actually cannot play it because finding a casual community is so hard and you just end up with the most bs things ever. Like that frickin' blue eyes dark mage thing who is immune to literally everything under the sun and all it costed him to arrive was 5000 lp.
Pegasus: Take the scoundrel away huhu..
The Snake-Eye explanation was spot on
Trish: OK, Ready to defeat him.
Opponent: Right, if I manage to delay this match just long enough, I win on time out.
Judge: For fuck's sakes, Trish wins, you lose, get it into your head.
This could have been easily prevented by the judge because Mikes opponent was definitely stalling.
How did you stretch "I accidentally drew 6 at the start of the duel" into a 13 minute video? I mean I'm here for it, just seems like a bit long for what happened.
Did you even watched the whole video to say that ?
@@momiaxe5123 yes actually
@@ItzMajinTCG so what happened in it?
He accidentally Drew six at the beginning of the duel and got a game loss. Then his opponent slow played him in game 3. By the way, I wasn't complaining when I said that. It's actually a compliment to be able to stretch something like that into a watchable video.
this was such a trainwreck and sounds like the average game i have at locals lmao i love it
I heard that Trish was slow playing checking graveyard multiple times and read the same cards 3-4 times just to take time off the clock in top 4
trish is a slow player but he is “famous” in yugioh terms so the volunteer judges have an obvious bias
Those are rumours from his opponent who spread them to his friends to save face. Judges deal with slow play in topcut all the time, claiming their decisions as biased is unrealistic on a bigger scale
@@fatherpucci5775 bruh i witnessed the match first hand i was staring at the match 8 ft away and youre taking the word of a lying cheater lmfao shut up
@@fatherpucci5775 crazy how you can say so many things and none of them are correct
@fatherpucci5775 , @mitchgarcia4455, Crazy how both of you are flinging accusations without sources.
Hey can someone explain for me, I haven't played in 15 years but don't you start with five cards then draw a card at the start of your turn? So wouldn't it make sense to have played a card then have five remaining on your first turn?
I dont rly get why there is a time limit if you have juge anyways.
Glad the judge was on the ball.
Raygun is the kangaroo who jump for Australia (jumped down a valley)
Never understood why these don’t use chess clocks
i hate that i had work and missed the world championship event at locals
Video got a like for the snake eyes take. It truly is just straight BS.
It needed more hits on the list tbh
Lol the year WAS 2024 had me dead