My lady, I just found your channel. I am a Navy veteran who was in service when 9/11 happened, I was stationed in NAS JAX. I want to thank you for covering Flight 77's story. Sometimes it feels like their story gets overshadowed or forgotten, so I want to say thank you for telling their story to the world. All the best! ❤
I wanted to take a moment to express my admiration for your channel and meticulous research. Your ability to weave together detailed facts with engaging storytelling makes history come alive for your viewers. It's evident that you put a lot of effort into ensuring the accuracy and depth of your content. Thank you for the work you do. It's a pleasure to watch someone so passionate about history and committed to bringing these stories to light. Thank you for humanizing and honoring those who are no longer with us. We will never forget them.
The only person I knew (and, I believe, the only one that lived in Las Vegas) that passed was on flight 77. She was my high school Foreign Language teacher, and she was a beautiful woman inside and out. She was very patient and caring, and a great teacher. I didn't find out she was on the plane until the next day. RIP Frau Edwards
Aww, I know who you are talking about. In researching this I found a news story about her. Her nephew is a local news reporter (I don’t remember where) and did a story about his memories of her. If you search her name on TH-cam you should find it. I’m sorry for your loss. There were so many good and wonderful people taken. Thanks for watching.
This is a well made video. I particularly appreciated you debunking the ridiculous theories that AA77 didn't hit the Pentagon. September 11th conspiracy theories, especially the ones that implicate that innocent flight passengers and crew members didn't die, are infuriating to have to hear. Thank you for your videos on AA11, UA175, and AA77. I'm confident that your video on UA93 will also be well done and be an excellent highlight of the rebellion that thwarted the terrorists. Keep up the work!
Thank you, Madame Morbid. I cannot express how appreciative I am that you told the story of those aboard Flight 77. You are very talented. You presented the most thorough accounting and w/honor to those who lost their lives. Thank you.💓 RIP victims of 9/11.🌹❤
I live in Texas but that day was one of the worst days of my life I was at home and very sick I drove to the school to pick up my only child and almost every other parent was also pulling up to get their kid's it's sad to watch but I mean you gotta get through it it's was educational
I love hearing the stories of queer victims they’re so often downplayed or barely recognized. Gay people lost their partners and couldn’t publicly mourn or be acknowledged and I’m glad this video serves to help cut through that shit. Finding out all this info about the copilot was so fascinating he seems like a very important guy removed from 9/11 for queer people looking to be pilots. I’m going to look more into him
I still think 175 is the most overlooked, because there are actually professional documentaries about flight 77, and that simply isn’t the case for 175. I watched several in researching this video and got some great information from them. But I agree it has also been overshadowed by what happened in New York.
Dear Madame , first I would like to say.. Where have you been ? The last intense video you put out on the 911. Hijacking I wrote you 3 comments ( you probably don't remember ) but I sure was touched , I remember for sure .! This video comes very close to the other one . do you remember that video ? I now live in montana since 1990. But I am from the Bronx . I took the first flight from BILLINGS to LaGuardia on Sept. 18 there was 9 passengers on the plane . I can go on and on , the smell in Manhattan was terrible I went in to the city a few days after I got there . , I can't. Think about that trip with out crying and I'm 70 years old . THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA...... PS. I hope you read this .......
Where have I been? Making this MASSIVE video, lol. It took forever, or at least seemed like it. Don’t worry, it will be a long while before I tackle a big project like this again. There’s something about this topic that I hold very dear; I’m kind of obsessed about learning about each individual. It goes far beyond making a living or getting views. It’s a labor of love, I guess, and I’m obsessive about getting it right. This one was more difficult too because in so much of the original recordings the people talking were very confused and conversations weren’t always time stamped. It also wasn’t always clear who was speaking with who (as in what agency they were with.) Thank you so much for your kind words. I absolutely remember you from before and I apologize for spending so much time on this. But I’m proud of the finished product. See you soon! Much sooner than this time, I promise.
@@MMorbid there is no need to apologize your work says it all ....! You should put all the information on this subject on DVD. For sale . you would probably make a ton of money . ( both videos on this subject ) love what you do .. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE FRANK FROM MONTANA.....
Your videos are always so well researched, respectful, and touching. Thank you for keeping alive the memories of so many special and loved people who were murdered and gone too soon from this world. ❤❤❤❤❤ And I cannot agree with you more in what you said about the conspiracy theorists!
Thank you so much for a video that is thoughtful, detailed and heartfelt. I particularly enjoyed how you ended by dismissing the looney birds who think this was a conspiracy. Well done ❤
Thank you for your hard work on these videos. They are among the best out there. Much of that is because you come at it from a space of compassion and love. Have you done, or would you consider doing a video honoring the victims of the horrible fire at the Station night club in Rhode Island? I am very much looking forward to your flight 93 video, whenever you are able to do it.
Flight 77 is the forgotten flight! I think the pentagon had to do a lot with covering the story and the evidence! Weird there’s no security camera capturing the actual crash! Unfortunate that they have to demonetize your videos, they’re amazing!
21:19 the man in the backround of this picture with the bag over his shoulder is believed to be one of the muscule hijackers on flight 77. (29:33) Nawaf Al-Hazmi. Reviewing the airport security footage, his clothes match what we can see in the image. It's so eerie to know they were right next to them for who knows how long without knowing their fate. Unbelievable...
"Heroes" is such an overused term for 9/11. What was so heroic about pilots who didn't manage to stop hijackers from crashing their plane, and who by all accounts complied with the hijackers and were shuffled to the rear of the plane with everyone else (according to the phone calls from that plane)?
Clearly the pilots on these flights who had time to react could be heard in a commotion but it's kind of hard to fight back in a blitz attack from behind when you're strapped in a 6 in seat and a boxcutter is slicing your throat open. How many seconds did they have to live in order to thwart the hijackers & land safely while you're busy nitpicking over words and you're just making up sh*t w/your "by all accounts complied..." gobbledygook in order to embolden your own fantasy.
I am, I’ve been on Rumble for three years. Everything I upload here automatically goes there but I get no views. Some videos have double digit views. I have thirty followers. I hope maybe someday it will take off, but right now I don’t know that it’s worth much unless you’re a conservative commentator.
Thank you for this what a wonderful tribute thank you for remembering the victims may they R.I.P I’m heartbroken poor people 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 these poor people must of been terrified how could this happen
"Conspiracy thinking inflates the sizableness of the perceived enemy into infinity so that in the end, one can only feel powerless compared to such a giant. In this way, conspiracy thinking also embodies an aspect of self-destruction." - Mattias Desmet/"The Psychology of Totalitarianism."
Nothing could have stopped this once these psychopaths were aboard these flights. RIP victims of 9/11. My heart goes out to all Americans for the tragic events that took place on this terrible day in America. Love from Canada.🍁💓🗽
Great video. I am curious though. How did the Captain's sister determine it took 12 minutes to take out the pilot and co-pilot without a cockpit voice recorder? The flight data recorder, didn't give much either?
According to his brother Brad they based it on the movement of the wings from the flight data recorder. You can see the take over happening but it’s hard to know how long the struggle lasted. The movement isn’t dramatic but you can see it in the NTSB animation. It would have been on autopilot so I don’t know what happens if the wheel gets bumped. I think there was definitely a struggle but I don’t think it took long. All they had to do was slit their throats from behind. There wasn’t much the poor guys could do being strapped in as they were. The brother actually said the struggle took 8 minutes in the interview I saw so I wonder if it’s that phenomenon of oral stories gradually getting more and more exaggerated with each telling. There’s just no way. They talk to ATC at 8:50 and by 8:54 the plane is turning. If you think about it even two minutes fighting for your life is an eternity. Thanks for watching.
@@MMorbid Yeah he's referring to the aircraft pitching around and moving left and right but that's half an hour into the hijacking. I think that was just down to the hijackers in-experience as pilots rather than a battle for control between the pilot and the hijackers.
@MMorbid Sadly, there's no concrete evidence that the pilots ever struggled with the hijackers or were harmed by them prior to Flight 77's presumed crash at the Pentagon. It's all speculation, akin to the legends spun about Flight 93. None of the phone calls made from the plane indicate such a thing, for starters. In fact, at least one of them mention a passenger asking her husband for advice on what she should tell the pilots to do, which would be pointless to ask if they were dead or incapacitated by then. It also would've went against the pre-9/11 training they received on dealing with hijackers, which required cooperation rather than resistance.
@ I found a newspaper article that said the FBI notified the family he was dead of injuries sustained before the crash, and I discussed Barbara’s question in the video. Did you not watch it all?
@MMorbid Yes, I'm aware of that story of Burlingame having suffered pre-crash injuries. I've read about that well before I stumbled upon this video. But the evidence is not overwhelming enough to suggest any serious altercation occurred between the hijackers and flight crew. Certainly the phone calls allegedly made from AA77 doesn't indicate any such thing, like I said before.
How odd that Barbara didn't inform her fellow plane occupants about the attacks in New York and conspire with them to overwhelm the hijackers, like what allegedly happened with Flight 93. That information could've saved more lives if they acted upon it instead of playing chicken with the hijackers. They should've known that complying with their captors was more dangerous than resisting upon hearing of the WTC attacks.
I’d reckon the kids played a role in their decision. 93 didn’t have kids to worry about in a violent fight or to try and keep calm as possible and distracting them. They also had a trained pilot on their side and may have felt they had more options
I don't think we should judge what did and didn't happen on those planes. People will say, "If I'd been on that plane, I would have ..." the only people at fault on any of those planes are the hijackers.
@a1918-b4g Flight 77 also had trained pilots onboard (Burlingame and Charlebois) and there were more people on it than on Flight 93, so they definitely had more options by your logic. And there was at least one pregnant woman on Flight 93, so technically there were children on that fourth flight, too. Apparently, that fact didn't phase the occupants onboard UA93 who decided to thwart the hijacking (if they were aware of it at all).
I’m aware of that but there were only five on flight 77 and that’s what I was discussing. I did mention 19 a-holes at the end when talking about the conspiracies. And I have videos about flight 11 and flight 175, where again, I only discuss those specific flights so I’m not entirely sure what you are correcting me on.
@MMorbid Which is funny because Renee May reported there were six hijackers instead of five. I love it when the government can't tell its stories straight.
And isn't it strange that after all these years they never released any photographs or videos of scorched human remains on airplane seats or even simply airplane seats from inside the building? They didn't mind releasing a few photos of oddly burned Pentagon victims for the Moussaoui trial, so why not make public such evidence proving Tobi's story true? Either they want to spark futile speculation over the lack of such public evidence or they don't exist.
There were no intact bodies of passengers. Families got back parts. In one of the documentaries I watched, a family member allowed them to read the coroner’s report of their loved one. It was things like “piece of forearm six inches in length, skull with bits of soft tissue, etc.” The pictures you have seen are people outside the impact zone who got trapped and died in the fire. Inside the building plane parts survived, but it was mostly large stuff like engines, landing gear, which there are tons and tons of pictures of. Most parts that survived flew out of the impact zone and landed in the grass. If Toti saw seats it was likely seat parts, probably just frames. I seriously doubt anything fabric survived. The only fuselage pieces that survived were small and landed outside. Fires resulting from jet fuel would have cremated much of what was directly in the impact zone. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s science, and what happens to an airplane hitting a super reinforced bomb proof building going at least 500 miles per hour with a full fuel tank of jet fuel.
@MMorbid As one would expect from such a crash site. However, this doesn't explain the alleged testimony of another person inside the Pentagon, Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams, who reported finding scorched bodies of passengers still strapped in their seats. To quote USAToday: "When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him. "It was the worst thing you can imagine," said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. "I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside."" - Pentagon searchers encounter grisly scenes (USAToday, 09/13/2001) Now, if the human plane remains were mainly in charred bits and pieces, we wouldn't expect first-hand accounts - such as the above example - painting a different picture. Assuming this story from USAToday was true, it indicates there were "intact" passenger remains found inside the building, albeit disfigured from charring (obviously).
@@henryford2950you are a very sick man for wanting to see photographic evidence of burned bodies from the plane. How entitled of you to expect that family members of those passengers should agree to you viewing their relatives, some of them children. Wow - just wow.
@standup2982 Yes, I'm "sick" for wanting to see empirical evidence confirming dubious accounts of scorched passenger remains in plane seats instead of blindly believing whatever the government and the news media is telling me. How horrible of me to dare question anything they say.
My lady, I just found your channel. I am a Navy veteran who was in service when 9/11 happened, I was stationed in NAS JAX. I want to thank you for covering Flight 77's story. Sometimes it feels like their story gets overshadowed or forgotten, so I want to say thank you for telling their story to the world. All the best! ❤
I wanted to take a moment to express my admiration for your channel and meticulous research. Your ability to weave together detailed facts with engaging storytelling makes history come alive for your viewers. It's evident that you put a lot of effort into ensuring the accuracy and depth of your content.
Thank you for the work you do. It's a pleasure to watch someone so passionate about history and committed to bringing these stories to light.
Thank you for humanizing and honoring those who are no longer with us. We will never forget them.
This is an often overlooked aspect of 9/11 is that the pilots actually did try to stop the attack
Awesome video, it’s the best telling of the flight that hit the pentagon that I have seen.
This video had so many interesting details that I've never heard of before. I wish it could have ended differently. Great coverage.
The only person I knew (and, I believe, the only one that lived in Las Vegas) that passed was on flight 77. She was my high school Foreign Language teacher, and she was a beautiful woman inside and out. She was very patient and caring, and a great teacher. I didn't find out she was on the plane until the next day. RIP Frau Edwards
Aww, I know who you are talking about. In researching this I found a news story about her. Her nephew is a local news reporter (I don’t remember where) and did a story about his memories of her. If you search her name on TH-cam you should find it. I’m sorry for your loss. There were so many good and wonderful people taken. Thanks for watching.
Love your channel you are so sweet. Thank you for taking us with you on your visit
This is a well made video. I particularly appreciated you debunking the ridiculous theories that AA77 didn't hit the Pentagon. September 11th conspiracy theories, especially the ones that implicate that innocent flight passengers and crew members didn't die, are infuriating to have to hear. Thank you for your videos on AA11, UA175, and AA77. I'm confident that your video on UA93 will also be well done and be an excellent highlight of the rebellion that thwarted the terrorists. Keep up the work!
Those vile people need to be in a padded cell there crazy with there sick conspiracy theories there fantasists
You people make me laugh.
Thank you, Madame Morbid. I cannot express how appreciative I am that you told the story of those aboard Flight 77. You are very talented. You presented the most thorough accounting and w/honor to those who lost their lives. Thank you.💓 RIP victims of 9/11.🌹❤
Your voice is so pleasant to listen to! What a wonderful video. From now on I will think of Flight 77 in a very different, more personal way.
Very great channel. Lots of research and passion goes into your vids! Thank you.
Yes!!! Your back
I never left, this episode just took forever to make! So sorry!
Thank you for the video - really enjoy these
Sent to fast , your work is Impeccable, please don't stay away so long ........ THANK YOU.....
Thanks for this video. Not so much Said about this flight
I live in Texas but that day was one of the worst days of my life I was at home and very sick I drove to the school to pick up my only child and almost every other parent was also pulling up to get their kid's it's sad to watch but I mean you gotta get through it it's was educational
I love hearing the stories of queer victims they’re so often downplayed or barely recognized. Gay people lost their partners and couldn’t publicly mourn or be acknowledged and I’m glad this video serves to help cut through that shit. Finding out all this info about the copilot was so fascinating he seems like a very important guy removed from 9/11 for queer people looking to be pilots. I’m going to look more into him
Please explain your comments. Who couldn't publicly mourn or have their partner's be acknowledged?
I know you mention Flight 175 was a little neglected, but I think Flight 77 was the one we knew the latest about, and therefore the most neglected
I still think 175 is the most overlooked, because there are actually professional documentaries about flight 77, and that simply isn’t the case for 175. I watched several in researching this video and got some great information from them. But I agree it has also been overshadowed by what happened in New York.
Dear Madame , first I would like to say.. Where have you been ? The last intense video you put out on the 911. Hijacking I wrote you 3 comments ( you probably don't remember ) but I sure was touched , I remember for sure .! This video comes very close to the other one . do you remember that video ? I now live in montana since 1990. But I am from the Bronx . I took the first flight from BILLINGS to LaGuardia on Sept. 18 there was 9 passengers on the plane . I can go on and on , the smell in Manhattan was terrible I went in to the city a few days after I got there . , I can't. Think about that trip with out crying and I'm 70 years old . THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA...... PS. I hope you read this .......
Where have I been? Making this MASSIVE video, lol. It took forever, or at least seemed like it. Don’t worry, it will be a long while before I tackle a big project like this again. There’s something about this topic that I hold very dear; I’m kind of obsessed about learning about each individual. It goes far beyond making a living or getting views. It’s a labor of love, I guess, and I’m obsessive about getting it right. This one was more difficult too because in so much of the original recordings the people talking were very confused and conversations weren’t always time stamped. It also wasn’t always clear who was speaking with who (as in what agency they were with.) Thank you so much for your kind words. I absolutely remember you from before and I apologize for spending so much time on this. But I’m proud of the finished product. See you soon! Much sooner than this time, I promise.
@@MMorbid there is no need to apologize your work says it all ....! You should put all the information on this subject on DVD. For sale . you would probably make a ton of money . ( both videos on this subject ) love what you do .. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE FRANK FROM MONTANA.....
You always do these videos so well
Your videos are always so well researched, respectful, and touching. Thank you for keeping alive the memories of so many special and loved people who were murdered and gone too soon from this world. ❤❤❤❤❤
And I cannot agree with you more in what you said about the conspiracy theorists!
My uncle was supposed to be at the Pentagon that morning.
Thank you so much for a video that is thoughtful, detailed and heartfelt. I particularly enjoyed how you ended by dismissing the looney birds who think this was a conspiracy. Well done ❤
Thank you for your hard work on these videos. They are among the best out there. Much of that is because you come at it from a space of compassion and love. Have you done, or would you consider doing a video honoring the victims of the horrible fire at the Station night club in Rhode Island? I am very much looking forward to your flight 93 video, whenever you are able to do it.
Absolutely, is that the one where Great White was performing?
@@MMorbidyes
Flight 77 is the forgotten flight! I think the pentagon had to do a lot with covering the story and the evidence! Weird there’s no security camera capturing the actual crash! Unfortunate that they have to demonetize your videos, they’re amazing!
21:19 the man in the backround of this picture with the bag over his shoulder is believed to be one of the muscule hijackers on flight 77. (29:33) Nawaf Al-Hazmi. Reviewing the airport security footage, his clothes match what we can see in the image. It's so eerie to know they were right next to them for who knows how long without knowing their fate. Unbelievable...
"Heroes" is such an overused term for 9/11. What was so heroic about pilots who didn't manage to stop hijackers from crashing their plane, and who by all accounts complied with the hijackers and were shuffled to the rear of the plane with everyone else (according to the phone calls from that plane)?
Clearly the pilots on these flights who had time to react could be heard in a commotion but it's kind of hard to fight back in a blitz attack from behind when you're strapped in a 6 in seat and a boxcutter is slicing your throat open. How many seconds did they have to live in order to thwart the hijackers & land safely while you're busy nitpicking over words and you're just making up sh*t w/your "by all accounts complied..." gobbledygook in order to embolden your own fantasy.
I hope you are other platforms. They are open to your content rumble and I think there's another one.
I am, I’ve been on Rumble for three years. Everything I upload here automatically goes there but I get no views. Some videos have double digit views. I have thirty followers. I hope maybe someday it will take off, but right now I don’t know that it’s worth much unless you’re a conservative commentator.
Thank you for this what a wonderful tribute thank you for remembering the victims may they R.I.P I’m heartbroken poor people 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 these poor people must of been terrified how could this happen
"Conspiracy thinking inflates the sizableness of the perceived enemy into infinity so that in the end, one can only feel powerless compared to such a giant.
In this way, conspiracy thinking also embodies an aspect of self-destruction." - Mattias Desmet/"The Psychology of Totalitarianism."
Nothing could have stopped this once these psychopaths were aboard these flights. RIP victims of 9/11. My heart goes out to all Americans for the tragic events that took place on this terrible day in America. Love from Canada.🍁💓🗽
Life taken to soon and beautiful people god bless
P.S. Ted Olson recently passed away.
Very well study lady. 😊😮😢🎉❤
Great video. I am curious though. How did the Captain's sister determine it took 12 minutes to take out the pilot and co-pilot without a cockpit voice recorder? The flight data recorder, didn't give much either?
According to his brother Brad they based it on the movement of the wings from the flight data recorder. You can see the take over happening but it’s hard to know how long the struggle lasted. The movement isn’t dramatic but you can see it in the NTSB animation. It would have been on autopilot so I don’t know what happens if the wheel gets bumped. I think there was definitely a struggle but I don’t think it took long. All they had to do was slit their throats from behind. There wasn’t much the poor guys could do being strapped in as they were. The brother actually said the struggle took 8 minutes in the interview I saw so I wonder if it’s that phenomenon of oral stories gradually getting more and more exaggerated with each telling. There’s just no way. They talk to ATC at 8:50 and by 8:54 the plane is turning. If you think about it even two minutes fighting for your life is an eternity. Thanks for watching.
@@MMorbid Yeah he's referring to the aircraft pitching around and moving left and right but that's half an hour into the hijacking. I think that was just down to the hijackers in-experience as pilots rather than a battle for control between the pilot and the hijackers.
@MMorbid Sadly, there's no concrete evidence that the pilots ever struggled with the hijackers or were harmed by them prior to Flight 77's presumed crash at the Pentagon. It's all speculation, akin to the legends spun about Flight 93. None of the phone calls made from the plane indicate such a thing, for starters. In fact, at least one of them mention a passenger asking her husband for advice on what she should tell the pilots to do, which would be pointless to ask if they were dead or incapacitated by then. It also would've went against the pre-9/11 training they received on dealing with hijackers, which required cooperation rather than resistance.
@ I found a newspaper article that said the FBI notified the family he was dead of injuries sustained before the crash, and I discussed Barbara’s question in the video. Did you not watch it all?
@MMorbid Yes, I'm aware of that story of Burlingame having suffered pre-crash injuries. I've read about that well before I stumbled upon this video. But the evidence is not overwhelming enough to suggest any serious altercation occurred between the hijackers and flight crew. Certainly the phone calls allegedly made from AA77 doesn't indicate any such thing, like I said before.
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No Airplane hit the Pentagon! Wonder what REALLY happened to these people???
You didn’t watch to the end did you my friend? I shared a message for you from a survivor.
@MMorbid As if some "witness" saying something in itself makes it true. People lie, you know.
How odd that Barbara didn't inform her fellow plane occupants about the attacks in New York and conspire with them to overwhelm the hijackers, like what allegedly happened with Flight 93. That information could've saved more lives if they acted upon it instead of playing chicken with the hijackers. They should've known that complying with their captors was more dangerous than resisting upon hearing of the WTC attacks.
I’d reckon the kids played a role in their decision. 93 didn’t have kids to worry about in a violent fight or to try and keep calm as possible and distracting them. They also had a trained pilot on their side and may have felt they had more options
I don't think we should judge what did and didn't happen on those planes. People will say, "If I'd been on that plane, I would have ..." the only people at fault on any of those planes are the hijackers.
Victim blaming at its finest.
@a1918-b4g Flight 77 also had trained pilots onboard (Burlingame and Charlebois) and there were more people on it than on Flight 93, so they definitely had more options by your logic. And there was at least one pregnant woman on Flight 93, so technically there were children on that fourth flight, too. Apparently, that fact didn't phase the occupants onboard UA93 who decided to thwart the hijacking (if they were aware of it at all).
@@henryford2950fetuses aren’t children 🙄
Actually it was 19 highjackers
I’m aware of that but there were only five on flight 77 and that’s what I was discussing. I did mention 19 a-holes at the end when talking about the conspiracies. And I have videos about flight 11 and flight 175, where again, I only discuss those specific flights so I’m not entirely sure what you are correcting me on.
@MMorbid oh okay
@MMorbid Which is funny because Renee May reported there were six hijackers instead of five. I love it when the government can't tell its stories straight.
And isn't it strange that after all these years they never released any photographs or videos of scorched human remains on airplane seats or even simply airplane seats from inside the building? They didn't mind releasing a few photos of oddly burned Pentagon victims for the Moussaoui trial, so why not make public such evidence proving Tobi's story true? Either they want to spark futile speculation over the lack of such public evidence or they don't exist.
None of those victims remains shown appear to be in airplane seats, btw.
There were no intact bodies of passengers. Families got back parts. In one of the documentaries I watched, a family member allowed them to read the coroner’s report of their loved one. It was things like “piece of forearm six inches in length, skull with bits of soft tissue, etc.” The pictures you have seen are people outside the impact zone who got trapped and died in the fire. Inside the building plane parts survived, but it was mostly large stuff like engines, landing gear, which there are tons and tons of pictures of. Most parts that survived flew out of the impact zone and landed in the grass. If Toti saw seats it was likely seat parts, probably just frames. I seriously doubt anything fabric survived. The only fuselage pieces that survived were small and landed outside. Fires resulting from jet fuel would have cremated much of what was directly in the impact zone. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s science, and what happens to an airplane hitting a super reinforced bomb proof building going at least 500 miles per hour with a full fuel tank of jet fuel.
@MMorbid As one would expect from such a crash site. However, this doesn't explain the alleged testimony of another person inside the Pentagon, Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams, who reported finding scorched bodies of passengers still strapped in their seats. To quote USAToday:
"When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.
"It was the worst thing you can imagine," said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. "I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside."" - Pentagon searchers encounter grisly scenes (USAToday, 09/13/2001)
Now, if the human plane remains were mainly in charred bits and pieces, we wouldn't expect first-hand accounts - such as the above example - painting a different picture. Assuming this story from USAToday was true, it indicates there were "intact" passenger remains found inside the building, albeit disfigured from charring (obviously).
@@henryford2950you are a very sick man for wanting to see photographic evidence of burned bodies from the plane. How entitled of you to expect that family members of those passengers should agree to you viewing their relatives, some of them children.
Wow - just wow.
@standup2982 Yes, I'm "sick" for wanting to see empirical evidence confirming dubious accounts of scorched passenger remains in plane seats instead of blindly believing whatever the government and the news media is telling me. How horrible of me to dare question anything they say.