I'm running 3 Gathering Wisdom, good card to hold for the end game and have your opponent focus on clearing board while you actually have your extension to 20 in hand
Gonna give my flavor of this deck a spin tonight. I cut one mim fox (doubt anyone in my group will run the mirror) and one daisy duck (didn't pull 4x from my case :P), and running two gatherings instead. We'll see how it goes
very strong deck, i have tried it and it's lightning fast. chromicon is so huge, even when you are wiped you can get up again ! Would the bare necessities help against grab/be prep/etc?
I think you can build it even faster and run nothing but 1 and 2 cost cards. 4 Wendy Darling - Talented Sailor 4 Never Land - Mermaid Lagoon 4 Maleficent - Biding Her Time 4 Lilo - Making a Wish 4 Gathering Knowledge And Wisdom 4 Pascal - Rapunzel's Companion 4 Olaf - Friendly Snowman 4 Befuddle 4 Piglet - Pooh Pirate Captain 4 Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Delighted Sightseer 4 Chernabog's Followers - Creatures of Evil 4 Daisy Duck - Donald's Date 4 Madam Mim - Snake 4 Magic Broom - Illuminary Keeper 4 Kuzco - Wanted Llama
What about including Lucky? It is un8nkable but with your curve it would not be unreasonable to hit three cards quite often plus the lore bonus if you are wide
It could work, but you really don't have a lot of characters that sing it and you don't really want to be singing it because questing is so important. It's really not a great card if you pay the ink cost.
1 way to deal with daisy is T1 Felicia and T2 vitalisphere or a rush character like stitch little rocket. Seems like a lot but it can get it away before theyre at 4 lore
Surprised there’s no simba, a turn 2 2/3 helps to keep opposing aggro decks honest and protects your board earlier against non-aggro stuff. Dolores seems like an oddball pick if anything.
Ruby X can beat it pretty consistently. I fully expect Aggro to be popular in Set 5 so I've been teching against it and Ruby has the best options. Steel can shut it down but not as quickly and of course Emerald has Discard to limit how aggressive the deck can be.
I played a similar deck and got beat 2-1 on the draw by RA. He spec’d in the elephant, elsa and Elsa lol, brawl and sisu (1 strength banish), so maybe not optimal for general play
I won't name names, but I already know "J" and "L" will show up within the first two weeks of my local league with this build. What hurts worse, having to build your deck to account for Bucky or for Daisy. 😬
You don't have to, but it does draw your opponents cards. If you aren't able to use the cards you draw it's often better to play out threats before you start giving your opponent gas.
I don't think it does enough. We don't care to ramp to 4 and we don't need access to extra ink really because the cards are so cheap. Probably not worth a dead topdeck in the lategame
@@bannibalharca your not playing it to ramp your playing it to play your one drops for free when your able to play the card you draw for turn and your extra card off the.purple item and ya opp can only play one card a turn your winning those games
Agreed, it instantly puts all your stuff out of “anything KOs this” range into “wtf I need And Along Came Zeus now to one shot it?!” range. Granted Ruby doesn’t care, but you have a pretty good shot at hitting 20 lore before they can shift a Sisu or play Be Prepared to deal with your board.
About the only downside being that you lose tempo having to play it and move stuff to there, plus locations are super easy to remove unfortunately. Would suck if steel sings Swords and then plays the location banishing action for example.
Steel, and Rush are the obvious culprits, but don't be surprised to see some green effects do well vs this. One card in particular that I can see making a comeback is Lyle Tiberius Rourke. Possibly even in its own aggro shell.
I would not call this hyper aggro at all, you have so many 4 cost cards, hyper aggro should be done on turn 4. This is slow aggro to midrange, the hyper aggro decks are way way faster than this.
Really appreciated the deck breakdown and thoughtful discussion during games. Thanks!
good to see you back, very strong deck ! thank for the content
Deck goes so fast Bannibal forgot to pause between sentences 😂
Good showcase, I think it’s going to be a huge meta change! I think Mufasa makes adjustments and ends up being very good
I just started and planned on building an Amber/Amethyst Aggro deck.. Thanks for the insight. Was going to run 4 gathering wisdom
I'm running 3 lol
I'm running 3 Gathering Wisdom, good card to hold for the end game and have your opponent focus on clearing board while you actually have your extension to 20 in hand
Gonna give my flavor of this deck a spin tonight. I cut one mim fox (doubt anyone in my group will run the mirror) and one daisy duck (didn't pull 4x from my case :P), and running two gatherings instead. We'll see how it goes
Bro said deck gotta go fast I gotta speak fast too lol
I’ve been playing A/A aggro since set 2. I’ve been testing invited to the ball and it is amazing. Def would recommend
in lorcana steel has always kept hyper aggro in check. need you to show games against Amber/steel or Steel/X decks
Im pretty sure my deck would beat it.. not sure though.. might have to build this one now.. thanks for the breakdown. I'll update after I battle it..
Wow… I’ve got a madrigal deck and still adding to it. Thank you for the tips!
Hello, maybe too late now, but did you made changes? Do you have an updated link?
Are the 1-drop broom and Chernabog needed? I have have thought about getting rid of one or both, but don’t play enough to experiment
what would you replace them with?
@@ponystarkI was thinking Pascal or a shift target
What simulator are you using to playtest the decks? I can't find any online..
If you use Amethyst Chromicon in the illumineers quest would Ursulla draw a card or does she count as a player?
very strong deck, i have tried it and it's lightning fast. chromicon is so huge, even when you are wiped you can get up again ! Would the bare necessities help against grab/be prep/etc?
I think you can build it even faster and run nothing but 1 and 2 cost cards.
4 Wendy Darling - Talented Sailor
4 Never Land - Mermaid Lagoon
4 Maleficent - Biding Her Time
4 Lilo - Making a Wish
4 Gathering Knowledge And Wisdom
4 Pascal - Rapunzel's Companion
4 Olaf - Friendly Snowman
4 Befuddle
4 Piglet - Pooh Pirate Captain
4 Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Delighted Sightseer
4 Chernabog's Followers - Creatures of Evil
4 Daisy Duck - Donald's Date
4 Madam Mim - Snake
4 Magic Broom - Illuminary Keeper
4 Kuzco - Wanted Llama
How’s this preform in tournaments?
Yes how did it do?
What about including Lucky? It is un8nkable but with your curve it would not be unreasonable to hit three cards quite often plus the lore bonus if you are wide
What do you use to play Lorcana online please?
Table top sim
Am i crazy? Or did humble ink twice first game? Turn after dropping mickey, inked, double fox, inked again to play blue 👀
Great video. The playback has to be sped up lol. I’ve heard Bannibal talk in his pod and it’s not this fast!
Nice deck! I def will try this out as I used to play yellow/purple in S1. What client are you using to play test?
This is tabletop simulator
This was in tabletop simulator
What about the library instead of castle? Play it turn 4 move a character there and quest
Definitely want to try this
didn't tested yet but small question , i see that chromicon does huge draw job. you feel that friends is too slow / no space / not needed then ?
It could work, but you really don't have a lot of characters that sing it and you don't really want to be singing it because questing is so important. It's really not a great card if you pay the ink cost.
i'm new to the game - are you using TTS to play the games ? Is there a Discord to get games for Lorcana ?
This is in TTS. I just happened to be on a competitive team with teammates I can get games with
@@bannibalharca Thank you good sir
1 way to deal with daisy is T1 Felicia and T2 vitalisphere or a rush character like stitch little rocket. Seems like a lot but it can get it away before theyre at 4 lore
I think you're going to want Bare Necessities to discard Steel removal, such as swords. Steel/Song can sing that online on turn 2/3.
Surprised there’s no simba, a turn 2 2/3 helps to keep opposing aggro decks honest and protects your board earlier against non-aggro stuff. Dolores seems like an oddball pick if anything.
Simba could definitely fit. It does have the same stat line as donald though
My suggestion is probably switching out Queen's Castle for The Library.
How was u able to play lorcana online
These aggro decks are going to be dangerous. It seems like you need to invest so many early game, unoptimal cards to be adequately prepared for it.
I think steel decks that want to beat it should be able to
*Blue steel has entered the chat
What are you playing on I thought Disney ban online play
What application are you using??
Table top simulator
I figured it out sweet! I’m pumped!
The playback has to be sped up on the upload side
Thought this type of deck would have been good also. Made something similar and it got owned by a discard under the sea deck 😅
I mean discard is effective against pretty much any deck. That’s just what it does. No deck is good against everything.
I’ve luckily managed to make a RA deck that can somewhat consistently beat this deck. Still a 50/50 matchup imo.
Ruby X can beat it pretty consistently. I fully expect Aggro to be popular in Set 5 so I've been teching against it and Ruby has the best options. Steel can shut it down but not as quickly and of course Emerald has Discard to limit how aggressive the deck can be.
I'm skeptical that there even exists a Ruby Amethyst deck that can go even with this
@@bannibalharca Well you haven’t played against my list then 😎
@@bannibalharca Ruby is the primary answer to this deck. Ruby anything really. It doesn't have to be R/A.
I played a similar deck and got beat 2-1 on the draw by RA. He spec’d in the elephant, elsa and Elsa lol, brawl and sisu (1 strength banish), so maybe not optimal for general play
Loved the video and the deck, your audio though has some sort of clicking in it? Maybe it's the music. Very distracting.
Had to of been uploaded on 1.25x speed lol
in order to stop bucky decks I could get Big robinhood out turn 3 and then have him sing grab your swords, which would stop aggro decks pretty hard
also avalanche or big tink turn 4
Bucky is dead 😂
is this video speed up?
dreamborn link doesn't work
I won't name names, but I already know "J" and "L" will show up within the first two weeks of my local league with this build.
What hurts worse, having to build your deck to account for Bucky or for Daisy. 😬
what bucky? he got nerfed to oblivion if you didnt know yet.
@@FlyAwayTooHighToday Ya, I was just considering the transition from set 4 to set 5! 🙃
Been getting cooked playing against this deck!
how are you playing online?
Tabeletop Simulator in this case
Blurple does not have the removal to counter this deck. Ruby sapphire should
Ya they’ll definitely tech that human Sisu for sure
I suspect it will still be too slow
@@bannibalharca could be. I guess time will tell. Very excited for this set ngl please keep these style videos going they’re so helpful
Why not play The Library to draw cards when your cards inevitably get banished ?
This is something I want to try for sure
Why wait till you have an empty hand to play the chromicon?
You don't have to, but it does draw your opponents cards. If you aren't able to use the cards you draw it's often better to play out threats before you start giving your opponent gas.
100% more erratas will be happening
Needs more latern
I don't think it does enough. We don't care to ramp to 4 and we don't need access to extra ink really because the cards are so cheap. Probably not worth a dead topdeck in the lategame
@@bannibalharca your not playing it to ramp your playing it to play your one drops for free when your able to play the card you draw for turn and your extra card off the.purple item and ya opp can only play one card a turn your winning those games
This video shows why i think saphire is gonna be the worst color in this format
I was thinking about adding some Cogsworth from set 5 to give characters like Pinocchio rush and insta get the +3 lore
That's not how Rush works
I had to check my playback speed to make sure i wasnt x2. You talk too fast lol
I definitely talked faster this time than usual. Not sure why
Rap God
0.75 brings him back to us mere mortals
@@jesusfong1at .5x he sounds drunk, which is pretty fun too 😂
.75 speed listeners, rise up
Rapunzels Tower sounds nice if Steel keeps being a threat 😄
Agreed, it instantly puts all your stuff out of “anything KOs this” range into “wtf I need And Along Came Zeus now to one shot it?!” range. Granted Ruby doesn’t care, but you have a pretty good shot at hitting 20 lore before they can shift a Sisu or play Be Prepared to deal with your board.
About the only downside being that you lose tempo having to play it and move stuff to there, plus locations are super easy to remove unfortunately. Would suck if steel sings Swords and then plays the location banishing action for example.
Can you please talk slower it's like on what's app 2x speed for not native speaker thanks a lot
Bro you talk so fast!
The real question is how to counter a deck like this
Steelsong is the most obvious answer for sure. Adding 2 drop Gaston to Ruby decks will help
Play a flynn with sisu and you can also win against this deck by getting lore faster than them
Steel, and Rush are the obvious culprits, but don't be surprised to see some green effects do well vs this. One card in particular that I can see making a comeback is Lyle Tiberius Rourke. Possibly even in its own aggro shell.
Arges for Daisy
A lot of uninkables
I would not call this hyper aggro at all, you have so many 4 cost cards, hyper aggro should be done on turn 4. This is slow aggro to midrange, the hyper aggro decks are way way faster than this.
Best is an opinion so isn't this the best deck. Im gonna give a dislike to this video for click baiting ppl