pt2 The Mars Volta "Cygnus Vismund Cygnus" ~ Discussion
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Hi, I'm Dean Wolfe, Canadian prog rock guitar teacher on TH-cam, and in this video I continue with my react to Cygnus Vismund Cygnus by The Mars Volta from the album The Mute Frances.
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I think your observation regarding their grit and boldness is astute. And my guess is it’s connected to their roots in emo/Post-Punk hardcore, with their previous band At The Drive In
Well done man. Glad you are into this. Love TMV
My favorite album of theirs. Excited for you to hear the whole thing!
same here!
I've never been able to decide if my top album if Frances, Bedlam, or Deloused....to me those 3 are the heights of their work, and each album hits a little different, while still being fully Volta
I like to think of myself as someone who’s listened to a WHOLE lot of music in my life. The Mars Volta stands at the top for me as the best band I’ve ever heard. Frances the Mute is my favorite album of all time. And it’s so awesome seeing you react to it. 👍🏻
Likewise! :]
Nice analysis, Dean. Very down to earth!
I agree with the Rush commentary.
The mars volta sounds like the place they come from, El Paso Tx, a chaotic fusion of 2 cultures, a unique sound.
This song encapsulates TMV for me, it’s always the first one I want to show people to turn them on. It still thrills 15 years later and after endless listens. Thanks for the reaction!
I love that you’re doing the entire album. It is my favorite Volta record. Omar‘s recording style is bizarre. None of the band members other than Cedric know what the song sounds like. They record things in pieces and Omar pieces it together in the post. I believe he recorded Frances, Amputechture and Bedlam this way
Frances was very meticulously thought out by Omar and Jon(the drummer) helped out quite a bit as well. Omar had refined certain jams they had came up with throughout their previous tour, even threw in a jam they had recorded straight into the album, but basically had each musician play to a click track and improvise their parts on a lot of the album.
Amputecture carried on with the improvised method with individual members of the band, but this time to the extreme, supposedly non of the members had heard each other's recordings and Omar didn't give them any references besides click tracks. I believe it was a recording process he got from Miles Davis and how he made some albums.
Not sure about Bedlam's recording, I think it was a bit more straight forward because Omar had electronic music and solo recordings he had taken/made as reference for the musicians.
It's important to remember that when they first came out, the mainstream musical landscape (and even the underground) wasn't really into sounding like a prog-rock band. It was the mid-aughts so it was all about emo, pop-punk, hardcore, with some indie/garage/post-punk thrown in there. They really stood out from what was happening at the time.
You're in for quite a journey on this album! It's my favorite from them. They were a force of nature live. Omar always gives me Hendrix vibes with his stuff. Cedric is a hell of a singer and the rest of the band is stellar as well. Enjoy and I'll definitely be watching your Mars Volta journey.
ditto. saw them in the rain at la city hall...9 incredible musicians, and nothing the same way twice. i've seen thousands of bands live. including TOOL. TMV is legit a heart-attack from start to finish live. it's like being ripped through another dimension.
i liked your analysis, looking forward for the next songs!
Now I'm waiting for
"He's got fasting black lungs,
Made of clove-splintered shards..."
Great analysis Dean! “Will they feed us the womb!!!!!!!”-Cedric
Yo also: I highly recommend listening to the Amputechture album when you get a chance! I feel like it'll be so absolutely up your alley man
Absolutely!
^ this
Frusciante's guitarwork is superb!
Love that you mention Yes. I grew up with my Dad playing them all the time. Mars Volta are my favourite band and they’ve mentioned the influence of Fragile and Close to the Edge multiple times in interviews. So cool to hear them mention a band I grew up with, funny how music comes back around like that.
It's funny hearing you relate Omar's playing to Steve Howe's as I got in to Yes after becoming a Mars Volta fan and instantly made that connection as well. Also, apparently like yourself, Howe's Yes run is my favorite guitar work of all time. Anyway, on to the next video.
The best way to describe The Mars Volta is they're a jazz punk band. This is what happens when a couple of experimentally-minded punk misfits are influenced by the sound of Jazz and early 70s rock. And they're definately deliberate in how they present themselves, from the big afros and flares of their first two albums to the formal music-director-suits of the following. They're not that different in attitude to a much more aggressive band like The Locust, a fantastic extreme punk band where both punk kids and experience jazz musicians would turn up to watch their gigs. Both genius and underrated.
This album actually features 2 guitarists. Omar is the band leader, composer and guitarist who handles most rhythm and some leads and textural stuff. He used John Fruciante (chili peppers) for lots of fluid leads on this record and the following few. Flea also played bass on the first Mars volta full length. Flea plays trumpet on this record too.
Jon Theodore is the drummer - you're thinking of John Frusciante.
I mistyped lol
Love seeing someone enjoy the band the way I do...otherworldly is a great way to describe them.
You might want to check out their precursor band, At the Drive-in.
I laughed out loud when you said you will need 2 cameras for the last song.
It's interesting that you say that they sound like they are on the street. Their music video to Goliath is them playing in what looks like an alley. In the middle of the video they even have to stop playing and move their equipment to let a car go by. I think it connects to the part of their character that you picked up on.
That grit comes from their punk roots
You should react to Between the buried and me- viridian/White Walls from the album colors. It's the last two song on the album and what's cool about the album is that it's recorded as one long song. Awesome band and my two favorites from them. Love the channel and keep up the great work
Between The Buried And Me are a metal kin to The Mars Volta
This was the first Mars Volta song I ever heard, back when this album first came out, and I was hooked from that point forward. You might want to check out their guitarist’s "solo" work as well (Omar Rodriguez Lopez) - or the other bands he’s been in (At the Drive In, Bosnian Rainbows, and Antemasque). Also, I’m surprised you haven’t approached Radiohead yet, considering their influence over progressive rock music of the last 20 plus years.
Will cover some Radiohead eventually
The closest preference to Mars Volta, that comes to my mind is Frank Zappa, but still they do not sound like Zappa. Mars Volta is so unique. I love when they sway between chaos and order, from chaotic soundscape to beautiful melodies and awesome groove.
Hey Dean! you should check the album POLYGONWANALAND from the band King Gizzad and the lizard wizzard! or at least the song with the same name as the album. it is awsome.
Omar composes all the music. He’s Puerto Rican, and influenced heavily by golden era Latin music. Larry Harlow stuff.
Perfect description! The only thing I disagree with is the "street music" description. I feel like The Mars Volta come from the Universe and we get a tiny sneak peak into alternate realities with them.
I like that!
I don't know if you are ready for their master piece. CASSANDRA GEMINI, probably one of the best prog rock songs of all time.
Yes! Here we go deano I’m all for riding shotgun on this journey through Francis the mute with you. I like to think that as far as Mars Volta goes their best album for just music sakes is Deloused in the comatorium however this album has so much more to dissect, it’s literally a movie for your ears it’s so strange and abnormal. Cant wait to get to Cassandra Gemini 🐺
Someone probably already pointed this out to you, but the beginning acoustic guitar is the same guitar at the end of Francis the Mute