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@HiTop Films Thank you so much for this. Superman is my favourite superhero. He was the first superhero my dad introduced me to and has lasted within my heart ever since I was 10. No matter what anyone says I thoroughly believe the world will always need Superman, and it sometimes saddens me how in an endless sea of superhero media Superman continues to be disregarded and misinterpreted, even WB stated in 2020 how thdy have no idea what to do with the character as they of the mindset that Superman doesn't work in today's era... and that just honestly hurts a little. I truly hope the rumors of a new Superman film being developed are true, and whether it be Henry Cavill or someone new I think we all know that *we need the big blue boyscout more than ever*
A Superman movie that returns to the boy-scout, optimistic, honest, good, and righteous Superman would be, I think, difficult for modern audiences to fully embrace straight away. And perhaps, that's why we need him now more than ever.
It's crazy how we get more Batman media than superman. Superman is the godfather of superheroes and he gets seen as lame and unreadable but that couldn't be farther from the truth.
They're basically re-doing the nolan trilogy over again lol gritty and realistic Batman...where have I seen that before? The utter lack of creativity...
@@joshjones9749 Lack of Creativity? It was a noir detective story. Something Batman hasn't been in forever. That was creative and the way they did it was definitely a change of pace. How could you compare it to what they did in the nolan trilogy?
@@darrienjones8917 It was a gritty and "real world" take on both Batman and his villains. You can slap as many labels on it as you want but the broad strokes aren't nearly different enough to write home about. Batman was doing plenty of detective work in tdk as well, something many like to gloss over. Batman and Gotham presented as if they were in some version of the "real world" with gritty realism...that's what Nolan did lol
@@joshjones9749 So the setting and framing of the world is all there is to the story? That's a shallow basis to compare the two movies on. I'm not even saying you're wrong it's just a weak argument to say 'they're both gritty and realistic so they're the same'
There's nothing embarrassing or outdated about Superman's morals and ideals. Marvel embraced it with Captain America in over 7 movies and he's one of the most popular characters in movies now. WB needs to get out of their own way and stop making the Superman "angsty" in an attempt to make him "relatable".
I don't know what the mindset is there. edgy and cool doesn't automatically make it relatable. Spider-Man's a complete dork and an angsty teenager but that's exactly why we love him, we've all gone through high School. Every single one of the movies has a core aspect of that. He's relatable because they bring him down to a level. Heck even when it's really cosmic he's still the most likable and relatable. They treat him like normal guy first and then they show us his powers. So once we see him doing superhero things we can root for him.
Superman is for everyone. When written correctly can pull from every emotion from everyone. Doesn’t know his family, adopted, immigrant, alone, cares and empathizes and understands every complex human struggle because they are his own all the same
Completely agree. It's why Evil Superman stories are just such an agonizing turn off for me. They're just so tiresome and feel like an easy way out, an easy way out Superman doesn't take, and it's what makes him so compelling. We need tried and true good Superman. A great movie and a passionate video game like Insomniac's Spider-Man are long standing hopes of mine to see come true.
Well "evil superman" applies to lazy wring of an evil superman like being. Shows like The boys, and Invincible does the "evil superman" well. Because they weren't just a carbon copy of superman and his plots. And im tired of people calling omni man an evil superman. He's not
@@bennett4789 You couldn't be even more wrong. I bet your examples are he don't save people when there is scenes where he did Oh wait "hE DiDn'T sMiLe"
TRUE AND BASED. If we get a Batman movie that perfectly captures the character, surely we can have a Superman movie in the same vein. In the same universe? I'd love that. Edit: people seem to be really weirded out by the idea that grounded detective movies and campy alien movies could exist in the same universe and still work together. Clearly never read DC Comics.
Everything is so cynical nowadays. The world needs a hopeful and optimistic character like Superman completely devoid of cynicism. A truly aspirational hero that can guide the world to be better.
We're not gonna get it though. Then again we weren't going to get a new Top Gun that just wanted to be fun and show characters at their best either, and damned if I wasn't wrong on that one.
That's cheesy asf and sounds goofy. The world is a cruel place and even a character like Superman acknowledges that. His job literally involves fighting aliens and dangerous beings that murder tons of civilians everyday. Superman should be level headed and optimistic, but also acknowledge the reality of situations and be serious at appropriate times.
@@controlman7490 I think what he's asking is just for someone to be hopefully rather then cynical and accepting reality isn't cynical it's being realistic.
@@veryontron4279 I never said accepting reality means being cynical. I never even said the word cynical. I said I want him to acknowledge the reality of situations and be serious at appropriate times. He shouldn't be making cheesy one liners or jokes when aliens are obliterating cities.
I love how you covered Reeve, Henry, Tyler and Tom's different portrayal of Clark/Supes but still confirmed they are all Supermen. Great message for us all.
Dr Manhattan (someone who could exist anywhere, everywhere, at all points in all timelines, someone who existed in every universe-) said something deeper than any of us could, which was that the universe could exist without himself- Dr Manhattan. But that the universe can't exist the same way without Superman, it needs Superman- because he's the universe's only hope in every timeline. Dr Manhattan said without Superman- there can be no hope. Because even if Superman is weaker, outmatched, outplayed, not as smart, or outnumbered- he's fighting with more determination than anyone else. The determination to find hope. To find the light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how far that beacon of light is, or even if he can't see it- he believes that if he keeps pushing he'll find that light. Superman is OUR light at the end of the tunnel.
I just recently rewatched X-Men : First Class and only began to truly admire what Matthew Vaughn did to Erik and Charles there. Crafting a soulful brother-in-arms story that wasn’t afraid to dig deep into the heart of the characters as well as crafting a stylistically fun and upbeat superhero movie along the way. Since he’s been one of the biggest fan favorites in directing a Superman movie for a while now, consider this to be my support for him as well
The way we’ve been in the Age of The Superhero on film for nearly two decades now and THE superhero is just…an afterthought. A guy with nothing but mixed reception and strange, cold, alienating characterization. Baffles me that *kids* haven’t been able to go to a movie theater and see a Superman for *them* since 2006.
Remember that first teaser for Man of Steel? Clark as a kid with the red blanket draped down his back; billowing in the wind. He puffs out his chest and he puts his fists to his waist. That was really powerful to me, it filled me with this peaceful timelessness, that hope and bliss and Human. It was beautiful - that’s what superman should be. He should make us want to achieve that better tomorrow. Thank you, Hi-Top. Great video, once again!
This is why I love the flashback scenes in Superman and Lois’ first season. He’s everything Superman is. Hopeful, optimistic, caring, etc. “Nice suit!” “Thanks! My mom made it!”.
Trust me, Superman is the most inspiring superhero of all time and he deserves a movie that will present his essence correctly. He needs a film which will give you motivation to become a better human being
Completely agree. It was my desire for a superman movie, a return to optimism, to altruism that made me make a similar video. I think the world needs superman, if stories like Kingdom Come has taught us anything, when the world loses its values, superman shines brightest, his values, sense of heroism and humanity shines all the more brighter against the cynicism of todays world.
@SUPER FRAME Always great to see you defend the Big Blue Boyscout. I couldn't agree more as Superman is not just the golden example of heroism, but he's the one thing a lot us will always need... *a friend* Christopher Reeves understood this, Richard Donner understood this, Tim Sale understood this, as well as so many other incredible writers, directors and artists throughout generations. No matter what anyone says, the world will always need Superman, now more than ever. I truly hope the rumours of a new Superman film are true, and hopefully they take a page out of your recent Superman pitch as well. BTW Looking forward to your How To Make a Bad Justice League video.
I loved Superman Returns because the actor that played the character resembled Christopher Reeves, the one and only true Superman. Hollywood will never make another Superman movie because Hollywood is filled with anti Americans and woke people.
why bother superman doesn't have any well written content and doesn't pull in numbers like batman or the mcu, his a overpowered uninteresting goodie two shoes who has no flaws and doesn't struggle and just demeans our existance. Jordan peterson pointed this out, so don't bother, superman is outdated garbage that deserves to rot.
@@serpenterra9994 have you read all star superman, superman for all seasons, kingdom come, any superman run in recent memory or any elseworld story regarding him, he isnt relatable because of his power dude, he is relatable because of his mindset, just because his character doesn't pull numbers like the garbage the MCU puts out doesn't mean he's a bad character
@@serpenterra9994 Superman is not suppose to demean our existence, his best acts of heroism are those that most people can do. Like even when he was dying, he still took the time to talk to someone about to jump from a building; Or when he helps a kid have fun and fix his bike. His suppose to represent the more altruistic side of people. It's why New 52 Superman as it focus' on the "Super". He is the "Hero".
Superman needs to be revived as a symbol of hope. Not just some alien that happens to have superpowers. I want to everyone look at superman the way I do. I want him to truly feel like a HERO again. A hero who can inspire and does what he does because it's the right thing to do
Jon Kent has been really doing an amazing job of that in the current comics for me. Superman: Son of Kal-El. He's trying to live up to his dad's name, while having a different perspective. While Clark's off-world, he's being mentored by Nightwing. Jon doesn't have a secret identity. Everyone knows who he is and he never hides it.
@@ElPresidenteMargz ... you know, as someone who actually liked both movies for what they are, that's just plain wrong If the goal was to have a proper Superman by the end of MoS, Snyder kinda failed that considering the ending of MoS probably left more people afraid of him than hopeful. BvS played with that concept a lot afterwards. And even in the SnyderCut Zack seems to undermine his own goal again considering it's very clearly setting up yet another evil Superman storyline with the apocalyptic future where he obeys Darkseid. The DCEU never had what the guy above is demanding. It came close at times but they instantly backpaddled
Superman fans : can you make a superman movie Dc: ok were gonna do a batman movie Superman fans : no we want a superman movie Dc : you got it were gonna make a batman cinematic universe
I think the issue is they try to give Superman, modern Superman these big huge problems. They leave him out as an alien, different from everyone, forgetting that he has also lived his entire life as a human, with human problems. If you can get the perfect balancing act- the worlds savior, a super hero, with human problems and struggles, you can make Superman relatable in any timeline. You also need a solid Lois Lane to be his rock, anchoring him to the human side of his life. I think this is why Superman Returns didn't work, that Lois Lane wasn't very good, and I would also argue Amy Adam's Lois Lane wasn't that good either, but I believe that is more of a writing decision than anything else. I never felt their relationship ever truly developed because we never got to see her with Clark Kent, just with Superman. Lois needs to see the human side before she meets the superhuman side. I don't think it works any other way.
You put my thoughts & feeling into words perfectly, I don't like Amy Adams' version of Lois Lane but I don't know why, it definitely has to do with the writing, I don't remember MoS and I haven't seen BvS but in ZS's Justice League when they were on the farm and he remembers who he was after putting the jacket on, I liked seeing Supes with Lois as Clark Kent, not as Superman.
@@webbedshadow2601 I know a lot of people hate Dean Cain, but there is a perfect line from Lois and Clark that really speaks to this. Clark once said "Superman is what I can do. Clark Kent is who I am." Writers tend to forget he was Clark Kent for many years before he became Superman. He became Superman, just as HI Top said, because of the love and kindness he learned during his early years with the Kent's and the small-town care he learned from Smallville. That's why Clark Kent is just as important a part of any Superman story, maybe more so than Superman because it allows the story to ground itself in his humanity. It allows Superman to really shine as a beacon of hope for all mankind.
It's why I think the current superman show actually works do I love some of the cheese things cw does no but there Clark Kent and Lois works and it surprises me that I'm saying this.
Well said, all of it! What saddens me most in all this is to have an Actor and a person the caliber of Henry Cavill who so perfectly embodies many of the traits of Superman, not be able to fully embrace the character on screen.
@@holyag1675 Whedon was given a already made movie to be fixed. There is only very few things for him to do there. I won't blame him at all. He made avengers a pop culture sensation
I recently Started watching Superman & Lois and it made me realize how Great Superman is. I’ve realized I’ve mostly Been exposed to Darker or Evil Superman’s so seeing one that’s Just a Good Person is nice, I hope WB realizes how much Potential there is with a Superman Movie.
I was looking for a comment by someone mentioning Superman & Lois. I absolutely love watching the show week to week. I really liked the flashback episode where Clark completes his training and Jor-El tells him to go and discover why he wants to be the humans’ champion.
@@uncle_ben_rices_nephew Dude I just finished watching the First season today. It’s such an amazing show, and to think I made fun of it when I first saw the Trailer. Now I have to wait for Season 2 to get on HBOmax so I binge watch it!
Lots of people would say that Garth Ennis, Mark Miller And James Gunn’s views on superheroes are the only thing we should care about anymore. Ironically, they are creators who respect and love the big blue themselves and know his values better then any of us.
@@zaberfang Ennis likes Superman though. When he wrote his cameo appearance in Hitman he had a story where Superman was conflicted on if he does enough for people after an accident that occured at a space station, and the title character of the book started gushing and explaining to him why he matters so much to people. So yeah, Ennis makes an exception there.
This is it. This is the perfect video to describe how I feel about Superman. He's a friend that gives you hope for the future, whether he's a huge dork, suave but also cheesy, still figuring himself out or all perfectly put together. He's a super man. Give him a movie proper already, the world needs hope more than anything else. It always does like water
I clicked this video on a whim, knowing nothing of your previous work or even the format this would take. I was moved to tears by how deeply I could relate to the plight of this hopelessly optimistic stranger in a strange land. This was exactly what I needed to hear, when I needed to hear it, and I thank you deeply for making this content.
Honestly in today’s world we need something positive or something that can still show that hope still exists. If they make a Superman movie make him relatable. Make us see what he has to deal with day to day. The ups and the downs and have us connect with him emotionally and see how he overcomes it. I’d love to cry in a theater watching an emotional but hopeful Superman movie.
Fr tho, i like Man of Steel but we need a real Superman movie, if we ever get a GOOD Superman movie it would fr be one of the best comic book movies ever
Maybe hot take, but I don't ever want Superman to be "relatable." That's not what makes him inspirational to me. I don't ever want to see him struggle. I don't ever want to see him challenged, conflicted, experience doubt or hardships. I want classic, All Star Superman. Always knows what's right, always knows what's best, always knows what to do. And does everything he can to get others there as well. Superman is at his best when he's not treated as human. He's not a person, he is a paragon. Perfect in every way, above everyone else. Not because of his alien DNA but because of who he chooses to be. I don't want to "connect" with Superman, because I don't want Superman to experience the struggles that normal people have to deal with. I want him to already be above those struggles, so he can help others rise above them too.
I remember once after going to the hospital, I went to my local comic book shop and I went up to a person working there, and asked them "do you have any good Superman comics that you could recommend?", and she said "no, Superman is normally boring". Flash forward to around 3 months later (today), I have just finished rewatching Superman and Lois (probably my favourite Superman tv show/movie in terms of live action), and I can't help but just wonder, if the Superman comics are anything like this, then damn I like boring stuff.
If you want recommendations for Superman comics then I HIGHLY recommend All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison, Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? by Alan Moore, John Byrne's Man of Steel run from the '80s, the Death and Return of Superman arc, Superman: New Krypton by Geoff Johns, Superman: Secret Origin (Johns), Superman: Brainiac (Johns), and Superman: The Last Son of Krypton (Johns).
Listen... if you want to see true Superman, some of the recommendations above are great, but I must include my personal favorites, "Superman For All Seasons" by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale-(who recently passed away) and Superman: Peace on Earth (which is in a collection of other amazing comics that truly get into the heart of the Justice League members, such as Batman, Wonder Woman, Shazam, and the League as a whole. I implore you to look into it, the whole collection is called "Justice League: The World's Greatest Super-Heroes" by Alex Ross and Paul Dini. Those are the absolute best interpretations of the character imo.
Also, anyone who claims Superman is boring, simply don't understand or appreciate the character. And I don't believe all writers know how to write for him, but when they do, they really do.
I think the first step to making a great Superman story is truly understanding his humanity. As soon as you engage in the unfortunately widespread misconception of him just being "strong alien dude", you've already set yourself up for failure. That either results in translations that simply do the character a disservice, or translations that feel the need to stray too far away from what makes Superman so endearing in the first place. We're still yet to see him at his full potential on the big screen imo. I'm really hoping WB pulls it off someday.
Here after Superman: Legacy was announced. This is EASILY going to be one of my most anticipated movies ever! I'm just really REALLY hoping they don't F it up🤞
One reason why I love The Boys is that, although it does so by contrast, it shows GREAT understanding of Superman. The way Homelander’s character is so meticulously defined by having his background lack all traits that made Clark Kent into Clark Kent is pretty concrete proof that… well, the writers understand very well what makes Clark Kent Clark Kent. Pretty sure they could pull off a great Superman story.
What they need to do for a Superman movie is give Superman emotional depth. There’s nothing wrong with embracing his status as a symbol of optimism and hope, but the character needs to be more than that. Showing us how Superman deals with being an outsider and also his almost neurotic personality would be very neat imo and help audiences connect to him on a more personal level . I think what would truly make him connect with audiences however is if they show his need to not fail, something that is almost a flaw for him in ways. He doesn’t handle failure well at all. Show us how he deals with that. And then show us how he overcomes his struggles to fight for what he believes in no matter what. Show us a Superman that struggles like we do, but picks himself back up to be a hero that fights for truth, justice, and a better tomorrow.
What you're describing is literally his arc in BvS ultimate edition. I'm highlighting it because it's those scenes that were cut from the version most people saw
Exactly. I've always thought that Superman: Earth One would be a great movie. It shows him as a young adult, struggling to decide what to do with his powers, his love life, affording an apartment, etc
I want a movie where Superman takes the time to save a cat stuck in a tree while dealing with an attack by The Toyman, those little things that Superman does to Superman. I don't want something big problem that decides the fate of the planet, something small and inspiring would be the best. And if you want a movie like that you have Superman: Man Of Tomorrow is what I would have liked to see in Man of Steel.
@@joxerd At some point people need to understand that this idea of Superman presentation is dated and corny. Superman returns failed exactly because it remained attached to that era with no desire to mature.
I think a Superman TAS inspired live action would be the best way for people to respect the character of Superman again, or better yet Clark. It's still my favorite version of Supes on screen since he's Super but very much just trying to be himself and being Human more than anything. It might not be breaking the mold much or retreading old grounds, but the sincerity and respect of the character is what we need most.
Imagine if there's a Superman video game where if it's "game over" and fail the mission, Superman spins the Earth backwards in full speed to reverse time and start over again.
Superman is like school, some people find it boring (not me btw, I love superman), but at the end of the day its important and the fun its not the main point
We'll always need Superman. And in today's day and age, probably now more than ever. I'm grateful that they are people of this mindset,as it gives me that much more hope, that more people will realize that as well.
This gets at why I'm so tired of people misunderstanding Superman or this bad superman trope. All we've gotten is evil or edgy superman and it misses the point. Watching the justice league cartoon really converted my over to a superman fan and as an adult it resonates so much more.
@@parkerboy795 Either you didn't see none of the movies at all or you're just blatantly lying for whatever reason. There's no way you legit came up with this analogy and I'm willing to bet you couldn't even give 5 valid criticisms of this Superman if you tried.
@EGNationnnHD Or you just don't like my criticism of those movies which I did see. Although, I didn't see the Snyder Cut, but I did read about it. You mentioned Knightmare, not me. Ok. I don't know how valid these are, but I'll speak my truth: 1. He didn't have that much of a personality. He just seemed mostly broody and stoic. 2. He seemed driven by the desires and commands of both his father's instead of his own wishes. 3. His relationship with Lois Lane is underdeveloped and unconvincing. 4. He seemed, albeit probably unintentionally, apathetic to all the death and destruction around him at times. 5. He could find Lois whenever she was in danger, but not his mother.
Almost everytime I think of the Man of Tomorrow, I think of 2 moments. Both are from "Superman: The Movie". First one is when Clark is leaving home to head up North, and his mom says with tears in her eyes, "Remember us, son. Always remember us." The other one is the last scene of the film where the warden says to Superman "This country is safe again, Superman. Thanks to you." Then Superman responds with "No, sir. Don't thank me, warden. We're all part of the same team. Goodnight." Both scenes capture the core essence of the character in just a few seconds, yet WB can't seem to make an entirely new Superman film based on moments like that.
You really hit the nail on the head with this one. It's really sad that, despite how we're currently drowning in a massive sea of recent superhero media, Superman is being woefully neglected despite the fact that he's arguably the one hero that we need the most right now. Also, it's funny how you said that Superman could have a face that we won't expect because I honestly believe that Paddington 2 is an almost perfect Superman movie. Every essential trait that makes Clark so compelling is perfectly embodied in that bear.
@@webbedshadow2601 live action has worked well in the past but i think animation could be interesting. in terms of plot however, it would follow a 10 year old Jonathan Kent learning about his powers and finding out that his dad is secretly Superman.
If they make a new superman movie, I really don't want it to be an "evil superman" type story. Injustice is great but "evil superman" is so overdone nowadays and it's not really what the character of superman actually is.
I love Batman (as a character) so much but we have so many Batman movies (good&bad) that I really really would’ve preferred to see a good Superman movie. He’s such a amazing and inspiring character I just wish we’d see that in movie format.
@@justuraveragecunt9005 superman-ish character in The Boys, Amazon prime series that about if the league and heroes aren't good and hiding horrible bad things behind
This generation thrives off cynicism. It’ll be hard for a Superman movie to work UNLESS it’s done extremely well. Like Superman All-star types of perfection.
I just want a true super man film, not any of this “what if” stuff or “snyderverse” darker/“real” superman. Superman inspires hope and is ironically a perfect human despite not being an actual human and I just wanna see another superman that makes me feel that way rather than questioning why he’s destroying a city to fight a villain but that’s just me.
Superman never destroyed the city genius. 10 years and you people still cant muster up the attention span to pay attention to the media you're talking about. MCU has absolutely rotten your brains to the point of no return. The world engine destroyed most of the city, and Superman died nearly stopping it. Then Zod nearly destroyed the city, and once again Superman was caught helpless trying to stop it. Matt Reeves will have Batman chasing Penguin onto a crowded freeway and get innocent people killed for his insane obsession with Selina, but it's okay because this is an amateur Batman.... Superman isn't an amateur in Man of Steel? The farm boy who we see never even throw a punch until a week before the final fight? Who just learned how to fly that same day? The only Superman movie you deserve is one where he kills Zod and says "well, that just happened!"
@@_androo_9202 Yes because every version of Superman is known for their powers and the struggles they have to through for being so OP. Wait no...that's Superboy Prime nvm. Wait no that's Cyborg Superman nvm...yeah nvm that's just incorrect...
I think that a superman as a character can work very well given in the hands of the right filmmaker as he is a bit tricky to handle. I think we all deserve a superman movie by now since the last one was almost 10 years back.
That's why I thoroughly believe a director like Brad Bird could be perfect for a Superman film as has proven over the years that he truly a fan if the Superman we all know and love.
Batman is someone I relate to, Superman is what I hope we strive to be. I don't want a "realistic" Superman. Dreary and dark aren't inherently "realistic". I've met people who have suffered loss, and strive for hope. Yes, my loss, and my darkness makes me relate to Batman. But in the best stories, Batman acknowledges what Superman brings to people. Experiencing darkness doesn't make you aposed to hope. I need my hopeful characters, as much as I need the characters who's experience match my own.
Bad Superman adaptations tend to forget that he isn't Superman first but he is Clark Kent first and Superman second. Many other Kryptonian's have the exact same powers but only Clark managed to became a beacon of hope. This is because of Jonathan and Martha Kent doing a great job in raising Clark on their farm. Clark Kent is a good man, a really good one. He is the core of Superman. Without Clark, Superman is nothing. Without Superman, Clark is still Clark and always would be. For Batman, it's different. Bruce Wayne (metaphorically) died that night in the alleyway. What was left of the boy was a broken and sad child. The billionaire Bruce Wayne is the disguise, while Batman is his true self.
Superman is the most relatable superhero ever,he is just a farmers boy who was brought up on Kent farm and wants to do good in the world,he isn't always happy but he isn't always sad either,I don't know why filmmakers decide to take either of those two extreme ends of emotions and base the whole superman character being that when in the comics he is mix of both of those emotions
The way Clark was raised, the love his parents gave him, his town gave him, hell, his planet gave him. Makes him more human than anyone. The ideals the Kent’s instilled in him make him SuperMAN. Despite being an alien from a planet light years away, he is human. More human than even Batman who might have no powers but struggles to find emotional connection and stability, who’s seen the worst of humanity and can’t always see the best.
I agree so so so strongly. especially when it comes to the sincerity aspect of superman. Too many movies lecture audiences nowadays I want a superman movie that shows the small acts of heroism that he inspires in others. and I really don't want him to lecture me just lead by being that beacon of hope and goodness.
When things look dire is when we need optimism the most. Superman was created during world war II has a sign of hope and faith in a better tomorrow. He represent the best of all of us and what we all should aspire to be.
It's going to be a long time until we get another superman as great as Henry cavill.....Warner Brothers has really lossed out. As much as we need a superman movie we need an open world superman game that makes us feel like superman much like what insomniac has done with spiderman
@Mr. M at this point theyre trying to get as much money out of the failed DC extended universe......rather than regrouping and rebuilding the foundations
With the number of evil interpretations of superman we got with Omni Man and Homelander, I legit believe it would be more subversive to make a movie where Superman is an actual good guy at this point.
I never understood why would be THAT complicated making a optimistic Superman in a today standard movie, I mean, the outcast is always liked by the public. With this premise, I'd like to say how much I agree with Alex's words: we live in a "dark and gretty" world and… it's starting to become almost unrealistic and annoying that most of modern characters are like the world they criticize… "because you got to fight fire with fire"(?)… I don't know and I don't think it works. In a world like ours… I don't know, I just miss that almost naive thinking that any of us can be good with the right help and Superman, to me, has always been that "right help", the figure that is superior not because of his power, but because of how he thinks, how he loves, how he would never give up on us… superior on a human level. Superman has always been this to me: the best of human race without being human
It's complicated make a Superman movie because It will not have the Coolness A lot of cool/anti-heroes characters are the mainstream I guess no one wants a good guy who just wants to help humanity It will be called "STEROTYPE"
@@parkerboy795 i Guess it's boring for few Still people like the edgy characters more than they do the Good Guy Characters Which is a sad thing to say the least..
Superman is the hero the world will always need. Regardless if your not a fan of the character, Superman is still the character that has changed comic book media indefinitely. Superman is many things to so many people, but deep down I think Christopher Reeves's summed up Superman perfectly: *"He's a friend"* Superman loves all of us, even when we don't love ourselves. Superman taught me to keep on going in this crazy, cynical, often grim world, and to not lose hope for a better tomorrow. Rest in Peace Tim Sale. Your art has transcended comic book illustration and has inspired so many, including myself.
I loved the way The Batman ended and it totally fit and everything, but I also couldn’t help but think “You know, Superman’s whole schtick is hope, kinda bittersweet that Batman got a movie in this millennium that encapsulates that idea so well before Superman did.”
"You will give the people an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders."
I NEED to see you do a deep dive on Richard Donner's Superman. The first superhero movie. It seems mostly forgotten nowadays by a lot of comic book movie fans and that really saddens me.
Even though it’s far fetched could you imagine if a proper Superman WAS made and then somehow got the chance to meet Pattinson Batman. That would be pretty neat!
Seeing a Superman movie where the guy fights for justice and to create a world where no one has to cry not because it's the right thing to do but because he himself finds fighting for that ideal beautiful, would be pretty cool
People tend to overlook the "man" part of his name, and focus on the super. A story about him should have his powers take a backseat to Clark's personality being his true super power. His bright and colorful persona make people tend to think he's just some goody two shoes, always smiling, always optimistic, always fearless and perfect. A certain line in his last movie makes people think he's just the embodiment of hope. A property about him takes real passion and knowledge for his character, you can really explore darker and deep themes with him: stories of loss, pain, depression, sadness, confusion, anger, and in the end, how love, truth, justice, and positivity win. Now more than ever we need a superman movie, but I'm scared that the writers of today are so bitter and different they want to change who Clark is at the core. Thank you for making this video, it really does sum up my thoughts perfectly
Not only are we being drowned in super hero media, as of lately, we're also being drowned with the superheros being the villains or villain origins. The boys, Invincible, black Adam, Multiverse of Madness, Joker, the dark timeline from Zack Snyders justice league, etc.. My point being, although it was fun and a subversion of the genre to begin with, I miss when superheros were just that, super and heros. DC and warner brothers seem to flood the market with batman, as would I, it clearly makes the most money, but it's been done to death. I absolutely love the superman and lois tv show and is akin to a breath of fresh air and a movie along the sames lines would be brilliant.
I'd really like to see a Superman film that features Metallo as the main villain. Not even just because that Kryptonite chest would mean it's a fair fight, but because it would be fascinating to see a character who isn't human but earned/learned humanity through the compassion of others go against someone who WAS human but lost that humanity in one of the most horrifying ways possible. To me, that humanity is always what's made Supes such an incredible character, so seeing that be the focus of a film would be a dream come true. And who knows? Maybe Superman could inspire Metallo to rediscover his humanity, just like he does with people across the world every day.
Probably the best video I have seen about Superman in a very, very long time. Honestly, I think as time has gone on I’ve lost faith in characters like Superman because the world itself is so cynical, dark, and unforgiving. In turn, I’ve grown up thinking of Superman as boring and uninspired, when in actuality, he’s quite the opposite. Whatever happens, Superman deserves a new movie, a new game, a fresh start. The world deserves it.
I’ve written my own superman scripts and I showed my pal and he cried I was so proud of it I wish I could make this movie, thank you for the video Alex
Superman is a character that should inspire, gives hope, always does what's right, because he believes in the good of humans. I don't care is Superman is relatable, I care if he inspires me and everyone else to be better. Sure, he can have a few slight changes, but Superman's ability to defy odds, and even take the right path when he is betrayed is what makes him an amazing character.
I would love to see an actual decent superman that actually gets the character right for once because quite frankly, I'm personally tired of the oh so "original" concept of superman but evil story, sure it's cool the first time but not after the millionth 1st time
Superman was my first favorite comic book superhero. I watched Superman 1, 2, and 3 when I was a kid and loved it (3 is _eh_ now though). But after years of mediocre DC movies that involve the man of steel, I switched to Spider-man. Hopefully someday, there would be a superman movie that would reawaken my love for the superhero.
@SGN For Snyder cultists, anything less than boundless praise equates to trashing your favourite product. For anyone else, his videos were pretty clear as to what his stance is.
Bro I can't say it enough, your takes/videos on batman and superman are honestly brilliant. You get it, I love watching your videos on these characters. Like literally the other day I was thinking about just what you said, a period piece in the 30's for superman where his saying "the American way" turns into "better tomorrow" as he has to work through all the injustice. Anyway, it's awesome how well you speak about these characters, your one of the few people on TH-cam that I feel actually understands them.. Superman is great because he's more human than all of us without even being one. He's literally ted lasso but has powers, and that's why he's spectacular.
I grew up with superman and was shaped as a person by him and it breaks my heart when people call him boring and disrespect him because he is the perfect hero to look up to.
We need a live action Superman movie based or inspired by All Star Superman as I really think that storyline and the animated movie showed the best of Superman and more specifically it showed just how human he can be.
Man, I wish they made a superman movie that dives in the "weird and random" part of superman stories. You know, stuff like "superman is rescuing people from a burning building, then Mr Mxyzptlk turns him into a grasshopper and the people into chicken."
I NEVER thought I’d see a single other person bring up that panel from Superman: For All Seasons. Seriously one of the greatest stories in comic book history, such a perfect origin to Superman and Lex. And the crazy thing is, there’s barely any action in that story. Because Superman isn’t a dragon ball character, he’s a down to earth, endlessly optimistic symbol of hope. His human side, his aspirations, his motivations, those are what make a good Superman story.
I personally would say the Snyder trilogy are pretty rad superman movies. Might not capture what you like about the character. But i appreciated the immigrant/adopted child story of MoS, the unsure of himself in a complicated world story in BvS, and the his homecoming in ZSJL.
@Mr. M can you cite to me any moments when Snyder's "Superman" does a little good thing without being forced by an outside person (Jonathan, Lois, Batman, Zod, Jor El)? This is simple : this moment doesn't exist.
@@adonisfarhat8905 Saving the crashed bus, rescuing the oil rig workers, protecting his coworker, going to testify on Capitol Hill and spending most of BvS trying to aid families. negatively impacted by Batman.
We really do need a return back to formula, Snyder kinda twisted everyone's view on the character so we really need someone to give him the all-star treatment.
@Mr. M moreover, Snyder made Superman to come through a long path, so he chooses to be all that boyscout thing. He is struggling to choose, not just being good because of his parents
@Mr. M That's cool and all but it's clear that didn't work nor resonate with the audience and almost everyone agrees the movies suck, so maybe they need should change direction once again.
Batman Begins (2005) and Superman Returns (2006) should’ve led to Batman v Superman. Christian Bale and Brandon Routh were the perfect age to build a DCEU for 2 decades. Would’ve been better than what we got. 💯
Because he is boring and shallow, maybe hes cool in 80s-00s but the world changed. People loved complex character, with flaw, not mr always right and almighty which his only weakness is green rock.
@@destinyhero4795 Just claim your opinion to be the universal truth. Meanwhile I'll read "All-Star Superman" a comic considered one of the pioneers of its medium because of its multifaceted look into superman, and it came out in 2010. Anyway, what's wrong with hope and optimism if I may ask? What most modern stories sell is just "edgy" stuff that is confused for being mature. Batman v Superman is edgy as hell, but it will never be as mature as Spider-Man 2 (a very hopeful film that took liberal inspiration from 1978's Superman). Still, its your opinion, but at least don't claim it as universal truth.
@@destinyhero4795 Superman is neither boring nor shallow. In fact, Superman is more complex than you give him credit for. Superman does have flaws, but still tries to be a good person, and there's nothing wrong with that. Superman isn't almighty either. There are plenty of beings in the DC universe as powerful or more powerful than he is. Plus, Superman's weakness isn't just Kryptonite. He's got plenty of other weaknesses, with his humanity being both his greatest weakness and his greatest strength. Superman cares about people, which villains do take advantage of, but it's that caring part of Superman's character that draws people towards him, even now. Superman is the hero that the world needs.
Dropping the “American Way” just furthers the cynicism. Superman is Americas superhero and now more than ever he needs to be represented as such. America needs its own identity, it needs it own hero’s; hero’s that are personalized. Superman should represent what America can be. He shows us all what being our best selves can look like. America needs it’s superhero. It needs someone to show us what the “American way” looks like.
I agree people are already not committing fully to the character when they ignore the "American" part. It was the American way that was instilled in him by his parents, who taught him that truth and justice ARE the American way. Even Superman and Lois seems to embrace this part of the character by having him work so closely with the American military.
@@michaelclausen1135 Thank you! You expanded on my original point brilliantly. I think we can recognize that there are things about America that aren’t working right, but that doesn’t mean we have to run from it. By changing his catchphrase we run away from it, something that is the very antithesis of Superman.
@@yrrej9696 Exactly, like Man of Steel is not my favorite version of the character but I love that Snyder so heavily makes the movie about his roots and sets the majority of it in Smallville. Focuses so heavily on the fact that he's from Kansas. Superman is actually the only character perfectly positioned to comment on the country. Because his roots are in small towns and rural America but he equally appreciates the urban areas because he chooses to make his living there. And since the biggest disparity in America right now is the divide between the small towns and the big cities and the lifestyles therein, Superman is actually that bridge that shows the two can coexist. That humble, fair guy who when staff at the office talk about how a bunch of yokels are ruining the country because of who they vote for, he can stick up for them and say they're practical people who are just trying to do what's best for them. While at the same time he can shoot straight with old friends from Smallville when they're being small-minded.
@@michaelclausen1135 Beautiful! what you said about small town versus big city Clark Kent. I never thought about that duality in him. Thanks for that. Adds a whole new layer to the character.
After everything we've been through and everything we're all still facing, THIS is the perfect moment for Superman to shine again, like he did in 1938, between the Great Depression and the WWII. This is the moment for DC and Warner Bros to restore his true power and show us his true essence and how big he is, giving us inspiration and happiness.
This is the content I love from this channel. It isn’t full of jabs at the content you hate, it’s filled with a passion for the content you love. It’s nice to see more positivity here
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High top films you are just goated. Superman is my hero and it’s always great to hear people want to see more of him. Dc needs to watch this vid
@HiTop Films Thank you so much for this. Superman is my favourite superhero. He was the first superhero my dad introduced me to and has lasted within my heart ever since I was 10.
No matter what anyone says I thoroughly believe the world will always need Superman, and it sometimes saddens me how in an endless sea of superhero media Superman continues to be disregarded and misinterpreted, even WB stated in 2020 how thdy have no idea what to do with the character as they of the mindset that Superman doesn't work in today's era... and that just honestly hurts a little.
I truly hope the rumors of a new Superman film being developed are true, and whether it be Henry Cavill or someone new I think we all know that *we need the big blue boyscout more than ever*
As long as its not a Zack Snyder version of the film.
we may not have superman movie but at least we got superman and lois
You know you could always just watch Superman the animate series it’s really great matter fact that whole universe is great better than mcu for sure
A Superman movie that returns to the boy-scout, optimistic, honest, good, and righteous Superman would be, I think, difficult for modern audiences to fully embrace straight away.
And perhaps, that's why we need him now more than ever.
@Son_Goku can you beat him though?
Ay! It's the man! And I agree 100%
I agree with this. Plus I love your videos.
@@ciferr1032 no diff
@@ciferr1032 nope
It's crazy how we get more Batman media than superman. Superman is the godfather of superheroes and he gets seen as lame and unreadable but that couldn't be farther from the truth.
They're basically re-doing the nolan trilogy over again lol gritty and realistic Batman...where have I seen that before? The utter lack of creativity...
@@joshjones9749 Lack of Creativity? It was a noir detective story. Something Batman hasn't been in forever. That was creative and the way they did it was definitely a change of pace. How could you compare it to what they did in the nolan trilogy?
@@darrienjones8917 It was a gritty and "real world" take on both Batman and his villains. You can slap as many labels on it as you want but the broad strokes aren't nearly different enough to write home about. Batman was doing plenty of detective work in tdk as well, something many like to gloss over. Batman and Gotham presented as if they were in some version of the "real world" with gritty realism...that's what Nolan did lol
@@joshjones9749 So the setting and framing of the world is all there is to the story? That's a shallow basis to compare the two movies on. I'm not even saying you're wrong it's just a weak argument to say 'they're both gritty and realistic so they're the same'
@@joshjones9749 thank you for this lol. People keep praising hollywood for being lackluster but then expect them to stop being lackluster.
There's nothing embarrassing or outdated about Superman's morals and ideals. Marvel embraced it with Captain America in over 7 movies and he's one of the most popular characters in movies now. WB needs to get out of their own way and stop making the Superman "angsty" in an attempt to make him "relatable".
Thats a good point. The right actor and director and execution and even the earnest idealist can be appealing.
I don't know what the mindset is there. edgy and cool doesn't automatically make it relatable. Spider-Man's a complete dork and an angsty teenager but that's exactly why we love him, we've all gone through high School. Every single one of the movies has a core aspect of that. He's relatable because they bring him down to a level. Heck even when it's really cosmic he's still the most likable and relatable. They treat him like normal guy first and then they show us his powers. So once we see him doing superhero things we can root for him.
@@rogueguardian yeah, no. Snyder over corrected by never having Superman have confidence in his mentality and worldview outside of fighting.
People (kind of) like Chris Evans, I'm not sure if they really like or take seriously Captain America.
@@suarezguy Thats the importance of good casting.
Superman is for everyone. When written correctly can pull from every emotion from everyone. Doesn’t know his family, adopted, immigrant, alone, cares and empathizes and understands every complex human struggle because they are his own all the same
nope
THIS
exactly
who cares about superman, do a one punch man short film, his way better
@@serpenterra9994 why dont you do it
Completely agree. It's why Evil Superman stories are just such an agonizing turn off for me. They're just so tiresome and feel like an easy way out, an easy way out Superman doesn't take, and it's what makes him so compelling. We need tried and true good Superman. A great movie and a passionate video game like Insomniac's Spider-Man are long standing hopes of mine to see come true.
WHOAHHH are you suggesting that Snyder is a lazy writer?!?
Whoever would suggest such a thing?
@@thomasprice7893 it's not just Snyder I mean marvel literally did the evil superman thing in eternals
Well "evil superman" applies to lazy wring of an evil superman like being. Shows like The boys, and Invincible does the "evil superman" well. Because they weren't just a carbon copy of superman and his plots. And im tired of people calling omni man an evil superman. He's not
@@thomasprice7893 he’s not, you just don’t comprehend his work
@@Ledgic-TM SIR, SIR, PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL AND UNDERSTAND THE MR. SNYDER!
we need a superman movie that isn’t afraid to be a superman movie!
We have those just acting like you are owed something
WE did-Man of Steel.
@@powerbad696 please, man of steel is the furthest from a superman movie that a superman could be. dont make me laugh
@@bennett4789 So,what do you think of Superman Returns ??? Is that a Superman movie ???
@@bennett4789 You couldn't be even more wrong. I bet your examples are he don't save people when there is scenes where he did Oh wait "hE DiDn'T sMiLe"
TRUE AND BASED. If we get a Batman movie that perfectly captures the character, surely we can have a Superman movie in the same vein. In the same universe? I'd love that.
Edit: people seem to be really weirded out by the idea that grounded detective movies and campy alien movies could exist in the same universe and still work together. Clearly never read DC Comics.
Think we'd all love that. It's too bad WB still have their heads in the clouds.
Ik dey want it to be separate but with wa happened in superman an Lois I can see it being in de Batmans universe
@@somerandolad they've gotta stop eventually, they've got to...
Mark my words if Marvel can make Captain America cool. DC should be able to do it for Superman movie.
@@BasketCase420 dey don’t even need to do tha.superman isn’t cool he’s nice and das why we like him
Everything is so cynical nowadays. The world needs a hopeful and optimistic character like Superman completely devoid of cynicism. A truly aspirational hero that can guide the world to be better.
We're not gonna get it though. Then again we weren't going to get a new Top Gun that just wanted to be fun and show characters at their best either, and damned if I wasn't wrong on that one.
That's cheesy asf and sounds goofy. The world is a cruel place and even a character like Superman acknowledges that. His job literally involves fighting aliens and dangerous beings that murder tons of civilians everyday. Superman should be level headed and optimistic, but also acknowledge the reality of situations and be serious at appropriate times.
@@controlman7490 You're miserable
@@controlman7490 I think what he's asking is just for someone to be hopefully rather then cynical and accepting reality isn't cynical it's being realistic.
@@veryontron4279 I never said accepting reality means being cynical. I never even said the word cynical. I said I want him to acknowledge the reality of situations and be serious at appropriate times. He shouldn't be making cheesy one liners or jokes when aliens are obliterating cities.
I love how you covered Reeve, Henry, Tyler and Tom's different portrayal of Clark/Supes but still confirmed they are all Supermen. Great message for us all.
And yet still no love for Dean Cain’s version :(
And Brandon routh
@SGN Clark and Lois.
@@PutoML that's because he wants to avoid controversy
henry's version isnt superman
Dr Manhattan (someone who could exist anywhere, everywhere, at all points in all timelines, someone who existed in every universe-) said something deeper than any of us could, which was that the universe could exist without himself- Dr Manhattan.
But that the universe can't exist the same way without Superman, it needs Superman- because he's the universe's only hope in every timeline.
Dr Manhattan said without Superman- there can be no hope.
Because even if Superman is weaker, outmatched, outplayed, not as smart, or outnumbered- he's fighting with more determination than anyone else.
The determination to find hope.
To find the light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how far that beacon of light is, or even if he can't see it- he believes that if he keeps pushing he'll find that light.
Superman is OUR light at the end of the tunnel.
Doctor Manhattan also said.
"I can change almost anything. But I can't change human nature."
So, Superman is like God. Now I understand the original writers.
Was it the Doomsday Clock story?
@@tommyfishhouse8050 which is why he knows humanity needs superman
@@jakubrejak1114 Yes
I just recently rewatched X-Men : First Class and only began to truly admire what Matthew Vaughn did to Erik and Charles there. Crafting a soulful brother-in-arms story that wasn’t afraid to dig deep into the heart of the characters as well as crafting a stylistically fun and upbeat superhero movie along the way. Since he’s been one of the biggest fan favorites in directing a Superman movie for a while now, consider this to be my support for him as well
It’s easily the best X-Men movie in my opinion!
They did that but they couldn't grab a geography map to see where Villa Gesell is to save their lives. Not even look it up in google maps
Same. I would love to see one written by gough and miller from smallville with raimi directing.
Matthew Vaughn actually really wanted to direct a Superman movie but was turn down by Warner
@Er-Teeus I think he'd be able to really nail the emotional centre and tone of Superman. Also his directing ability is to die for.
The way we’ve been in the Age of The Superhero on film for nearly two decades now and THE superhero is just…an afterthought. A guy with nothing but mixed reception and strange, cold, alienating characterization. Baffles me that *kids* haven’t been able to go to a movie theater and see a Superman for *them* since 2006.
Remember that first teaser for Man of Steel? Clark as a kid with the red blanket draped down his back; billowing in the wind. He puffs out his chest and he puts his fists to his waist. That was really powerful to me, it filled me with this peaceful timelessness, that hope and bliss and Human. It was beautiful - that’s what superman should be. He should make us want to achieve that better tomorrow. Thank you, Hi-Top. Great video, once again!
Man of Steel's teaser is pretty good, but I still get goosebumps every time I see the Superman Returns teaser.
@@doctorstrange7582 Agree, Returns teaser is one of the best teaser ever.
Man of steel was bad
@@yesiamwinningdad5024 but the teaser is good
Mos is dogfood
This is why I love the flashback scenes in Superman and Lois’ first season. He’s everything Superman is. Hopeful, optimistic, caring, etc. “Nice suit!” “Thanks! My mom made it!”.
That line is so perfect
Trust me, Superman is the most inspiring superhero of all time and he deserves a movie that will present his essence correctly. He needs a film which will give you motivation to become a better human being
Completely agree. It was my desire for a superman movie, a return to optimism, to altruism that made me make a similar video. I think the world needs superman, if stories like Kingdom Come has taught us anything, when the world loses its values, superman shines brightest, his values, sense of heroism and humanity shines all the more brighter against the cynicism of todays world.
@SUPER FRAME Always great to see you defend the Big Blue Boyscout. I couldn't agree more as Superman is not just the golden example of heroism, but he's the one thing a lot us will always need... *a friend*
Christopher Reeves understood this, Richard Donner understood this, Tim Sale understood this, as well as so many other incredible writers, directors and artists throughout generations.
No matter what anyone says, the world will always need Superman, now more than ever. I truly hope the rumours of a new Superman film are true, and hopefully they take a page out of your recent Superman pitch as well.
BTW Looking forward to your How To Make a Bad Justice League video.
I loved Superman Returns because the actor that played the character resembled Christopher Reeves, the one and only true Superman. Hollywood will never make another Superman movie because Hollywood is filled with anti Americans and woke people.
why bother superman doesn't have any well written content and doesn't pull in numbers like batman or the mcu, his a overpowered uninteresting goodie two shoes who has no flaws and doesn't struggle and just demeans our existance. Jordan peterson pointed this out, so don't bother, superman is outdated garbage that deserves to rot.
@@serpenterra9994 have you read all star superman, superman for all seasons, kingdom come, any superman run in recent memory or any elseworld story regarding him, he isnt relatable because of his power dude, he is relatable because of his mindset, just because his character doesn't pull numbers like the garbage the MCU puts out doesn't mean he's a bad character
@@serpenterra9994 Superman is not suppose to demean our existence, his best acts of heroism are those that most people can do.
Like even when he was dying, he still took the time to talk to someone about to jump from a building; Or when he helps a kid have fun and fix his bike.
His suppose to represent the more altruistic side of people. It's why New 52 Superman as it focus' on the "Super". He is the "Hero".
Superman needs to be revived as a symbol of hope. Not just some alien that happens to have superpowers. I want to everyone look at superman the way I do. I want him to truly feel like a HERO again. A hero who can inspire and does what he does because it's the right thing to do
Superman isn't an alien,he is more human then most humans dude is a just a farmers boy
Damn you guys in the comment understand superman than some of these writers 😭.
Jon Kent has been really doing an amazing job of that in the current comics for me. Superman: Son of Kal-El. He's trying to live up to his dad's name, while having a different perspective. While Clark's off-world, he's being mentored by Nightwing. Jon doesn't have a secret identity. Everyone knows who he is and he never hides it.
Did you miss Man of Steel and the end of the SnyderCut ? Cause that’s what you’re describing . The Superman you’re describing right there
@@ElPresidenteMargz ... you know, as someone who actually liked both movies for what they are, that's just plain wrong
If the goal was to have a proper Superman by the end of MoS, Snyder kinda failed that considering the ending of MoS probably left more people afraid of him than hopeful. BvS played with that concept a lot afterwards.
And even in the SnyderCut Zack seems to undermine his own goal again considering it's very clearly setting up yet another evil Superman storyline with the apocalyptic future where he obeys Darkseid.
The DCEU never had what the guy above is demanding. It came close at times but they instantly backpaddled
Superman fans : can you make a superman movie
Dc: ok were gonna do a batman movie
Superman fans : no we want a superman movie
Dc : you got it were gonna make a batman cinematic universe
This is unironically the truth
“Somewhere, in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down." - Grant Morrison
I think the issue is they try to give Superman, modern Superman these big huge problems. They leave him out as an alien, different from everyone, forgetting that he has also lived his entire life as a human, with human problems. If you can get the perfect balancing act- the worlds savior, a super hero, with human problems and struggles, you can make Superman relatable in any timeline.
You also need a solid Lois Lane to be his rock, anchoring him to the human side of his life. I think this is why Superman Returns didn't work, that Lois Lane wasn't very good, and I would also argue Amy Adam's Lois Lane wasn't that good either, but I believe that is more of a writing decision than anything else. I never felt their relationship ever truly developed because we never got to see her with Clark Kent, just with Superman. Lois needs to see the human side before she meets the superhuman side. I don't think it works any other way.
You put my thoughts & feeling into words perfectly, I don't like Amy Adams' version of Lois Lane but I don't know why, it definitely has to do with the writing, I don't remember MoS and I haven't seen BvS but in ZS's Justice League when they were on the farm and he remembers who he was after putting the jacket on, I liked seeing Supes with Lois as Clark Kent, not as Superman.
@@webbedshadow2601 I know a lot of people hate Dean Cain, but there is a perfect line from Lois and Clark that really speaks to this. Clark once said "Superman is what I can do. Clark Kent is who I am."
Writers tend to forget he was Clark Kent for many years before he became Superman. He became Superman, just as HI Top said, because of the love and kindness he learned during his early years with the Kent's and the small-town care he learned from Smallville. That's why Clark Kent is just as important a part of any Superman story, maybe more so than Superman because it allows the story to ground itself in his humanity. It allows Superman to really shine as a beacon of hope for all mankind.
It's why I think the current superman show actually works do I love some of the cheese things cw does no but there Clark Kent and Lois works and it surprises me that I'm saying this.
I want Jon Kent so bad. He's such an amazing Superman.
Superman is like italian food, it's simple, but perfect as it is, no need addition
Well said, all of it!
What saddens me most in all this is to have an Actor and a person the caliber of Henry Cavill who so perfectly embodies many of the traits of Superman, not be able to fully embrace the character on screen.
Sorry to say wheedon tried to show the boy scout supes but Snyder fanboys wanted the gritty 4 hour emo clark
@@ichigokurosaki1081 wheadons movie fucking sucked
@@holyag1675 crazy how majority of the Shit people claim to be whedons doing was all Snyder from the beginning. Even from the first trailer lmao
@@holyag1675 Whedon was given a already made movie to be fixed. There is only very few things for him to do there. I won't blame him at all. He made avengers a pop culture sensation
@@yesiamwinningdad5024 His Avengers movies sucked compared to the Russo brothers Avengers
I recently Started watching Superman & Lois and it made me realize how Great Superman is. I’ve realized I’ve mostly Been exposed to Darker or Evil Superman’s so seeing one that’s Just a Good Person is nice, I hope WB realizes how much Potential there is with a Superman Movie.
I was looking for a comment by someone mentioning Superman & Lois. I absolutely love watching the show week to week.
I really liked the flashback episode where Clark completes his training and Jor-El tells him to go and discover why he wants to be the humans’ champion.
@@uncle_ben_rices_nephew Dude I just finished watching the First season today. It’s such an amazing show, and to think I made fun of it when I first saw the Trailer. Now I have to wait for Season 2 to get on HBOmax so I binge watch it!
The show sucks. It's literally mediocre.
@@ganganthefatman1382 it’s ok to have wrong opinions
@@ganganthefatman1382 man of steel is literally trash
Lots of people would say that Garth Ennis, Mark Miller And James Gunn’s views on superheroes are the only thing we should care about anymore.
Ironically, they are creators who respect and love the big blue themselves and know his values better then any of us.
Except Ennis hates superheroes.
@@zaberfang true, but he did say Superman and Wonder Woman were the exception
@@zaberfang Superman and Spiderman are the only exceptions Ennis has.
@@zaberfang Ennis likes Superman though. When he wrote his cameo appearance in Hitman he had a story where Superman was conflicted on if he does enough for people after an accident that occured at a space station, and the title character of the book started gushing and explaining to him why he matters so much to people. So yeah, Ennis makes an exception there.
This is it. This is the perfect video to describe how I feel about Superman. He's a friend that gives you hope for the future, whether he's a huge dork, suave but also cheesy, still figuring himself out or all perfectly put together. He's a super man. Give him a movie proper already, the world needs hope more than anything else. It always does like water
I clicked this video on a whim, knowing nothing of your previous work or even the format this would take. I was moved to tears by how deeply I could relate to the plight of this hopelessly optimistic stranger in a strange land. This was exactly what I needed to hear, when I needed to hear it, and I thank you deeply for making this content.
Honestly in today’s world we need something positive or something that can still show that hope still exists. If they make a Superman movie make him relatable. Make us see what he has to deal with day to day. The ups and the downs and have us connect with him emotionally and see how he overcomes it. I’d love to cry in a theater watching an emotional but hopeful Superman movie.
Man of Steel did this for me.It made me feel HOPEFUL.
@mp mp I wish I did get paid for that,mp-mp,I'd hit you up tho.
Fr tho, i like Man of Steel but we need a real Superman movie, if we ever get a GOOD Superman movie it would fr be one of the best comic book movies ever
thats pretty much MoS and BvS, but yes in this current year or later, we need a superman movie tbh.
Maybe hot take, but I don't ever want Superman to be "relatable." That's not what makes him inspirational to me. I don't ever want to see him struggle. I don't ever want to see him challenged, conflicted, experience doubt or hardships. I want classic, All Star Superman. Always knows what's right, always knows what's best, always knows what to do. And does everything he can to get others there as well.
Superman is at his best when he's not treated as human. He's not a person, he is a paragon. Perfect in every way, above everyone else. Not because of his alien DNA but because of who he chooses to be. I don't want to "connect" with Superman, because I don't want Superman to experience the struggles that normal people have to deal with. I want him to already be above those struggles, so he can help others rise above them too.
I remember once after going to the hospital, I went to my local comic book shop and I went up to a person working there, and asked them "do you have any good Superman comics that you could recommend?", and she said "no, Superman is normally boring". Flash forward to around 3 months later (today), I have just finished rewatching Superman and Lois (probably my favourite Superman tv show/movie in terms of live action), and I can't help but just wonder, if the Superman comics are anything like this, then damn I like boring stuff.
Read All Star Superman
If you want recommendations for Superman comics then I HIGHLY recommend All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison, Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? by Alan Moore, John Byrne's Man of Steel run from the '80s, the Death and Return of Superman arc, Superman: New Krypton by Geoff Johns, Superman: Secret Origin (Johns), Superman: Brainiac (Johns), and Superman: The Last Son of Krypton (Johns).
Listen... if you want to see true Superman, some of the recommendations above are great, but I must include my personal favorites, "Superman For All Seasons" by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale-(who recently passed away) and Superman: Peace on Earth (which is in a collection of other amazing comics that truly get into the heart of the Justice League members, such as Batman, Wonder Woman, Shazam, and the League as a whole. I implore you to look into it, the whole collection is called "Justice League: The World's Greatest Super-Heroes" by Alex Ross and Paul Dini. Those are the absolute best interpretations of the character imo.
Also, anyone who claims Superman is boring, simply don't understand or appreciate the character. And I don't believe all writers know how to write for him, but when they do, they really do.
Read All-Star Superman. You'll love it
I think the first step to making a great Superman story is truly understanding his humanity. As soon as you engage in the unfortunately widespread misconception of him just being "strong alien dude", you've already set yourself up for failure. That either results in translations that simply do the character a disservice, or translations that feel the need to stray too far away from what makes Superman so endearing in the first place. We're still yet to see him at his full potential on the big screen imo. I'm really hoping WB pulls it off someday.
Here after Superman: Legacy was announced. This is EASILY going to be one of my most anticipated movies ever! I'm just really REALLY hoping they don't F it up🤞
One reason why I love The Boys is that, although it does so by contrast, it shows GREAT understanding of Superman. The way Homelander’s character is so meticulously defined by having his background lack all traits that made Clark Kent into Clark Kent is pretty concrete proof that… well, the writers understand very well what makes Clark Kent Clark Kent. Pretty sure they could pull off a great Superman story.
What they need to do for a Superman movie is give Superman emotional depth. There’s nothing wrong with embracing his status as a symbol of optimism and hope, but the character needs to be more than that. Showing us how Superman deals with being an outsider and also his almost neurotic personality would be very neat imo and help audiences connect to him on a more personal level . I think what would truly make him connect with audiences however is if they show his need to not fail, something that is almost a flaw for him in ways. He doesn’t handle failure well at all. Show us how he deals with that. And then show us how he overcomes his struggles to fight for what he believes in no matter what. Show us a Superman that struggles like we do, but picks himself back up to be a hero that fights for truth, justice, and a better tomorrow.
What you're describing is literally his arc in BvS ultimate edition.
I'm highlighting it because it's those scenes that were cut from the version most people saw
Exactly. I've always thought that Superman: Earth One would be a great movie. It shows him as a young adult, struggling to decide what to do with his powers, his love life, affording an apartment, etc
I want a movie where Superman takes the time to save a cat stuck in a tree while dealing with an attack by The Toyman, those little things that Superman does to Superman.
I don't want something big problem that decides the fate of the planet, something small and inspiring would be the best.
And if you want a movie like that you have Superman: Man Of Tomorrow is what I would have liked to see in Man of Steel.
@@joxerd At some point people need to understand that this idea of Superman presentation is dated and corny.
Superman returns failed exactly because it remained attached to that era with no desire to mature.
*Truth, Justice, and the American way.*
I think a Superman TAS inspired live action would be the best way for people to respect the character of Superman again, or better yet Clark. It's still my favorite version of Supes on screen since he's Super but very much just trying to be himself and being Human more than anything. It might not be breaking the mold much or retreading old grounds, but the sincerity and respect of the character is what we need most.
Imagine if there's a Superman video game where if it's "game over" and fail the mission, Superman spins the Earth backwards in full speed to reverse time and start over again.
Here's to hoping that Superman Legacy is the Superman movie we all need
Superman is like school, some people find it boring (not me btw, I love superman), but at the end of the day its important and the fun its not the main point
A Superhero movie is supposed to entertain. If a Superman movie is boring and not entertaining. then why make it?
We'll always need Superman. And in today's day and age, probably now more than ever.
I'm grateful that they are people of this mindset,as it gives me that much more hope, that more people will realize that as well.
This gets at why I'm so tired of people misunderstanding Superman or this bad superman trope. All we've gotten is evil or edgy superman and it misses the point. Watching the justice league cartoon really converted my over to a superman fan and as an adult it resonates so much more.
Yeah. I'm fed up with it too. Classic Superman is way more interesting than evil or dark Superman.
Evil and edgy? You mean in the knightmare scenes that aren't even real?
@@3mbthelabel Considering it wasn't that different from how DCEU Superman was at that point and it was meant to be the future, yeah.
@@parkerboy795 Either you didn't see none of the movies at all or you're just blatantly lying for whatever reason.
There's no way you legit came up with this analogy and I'm willing to bet you couldn't even give 5 valid criticisms of this Superman if you tried.
@EGNationnnHD Or you just don't like my criticism of those movies which I did see. Although, I didn't see the Snyder Cut, but I did read about it.
You mentioned Knightmare, not me.
Ok. I don't know how valid these are, but I'll speak my truth:
1. He didn't have that much of a personality. He just seemed mostly broody and stoic.
2. He seemed driven by the desires and commands of both his father's instead of his own wishes.
3. His relationship with Lois Lane is underdeveloped and unconvincing.
4. He seemed, albeit probably unintentionally, apathetic to all the death and destruction around him at times.
5. He could find Lois whenever she was in danger, but not his mother.
Man of Steel is one of my favourite superhero movies period. It sadens me to not have gotten a sequel.
Mine too.Man of Steel was a GREAT film.
But in terms of "best Superman live action product", Superman & Lois is the best we have.
Almost everytime I think of the Man of Tomorrow, I think of 2 moments. Both are from "Superman: The Movie". First one is when Clark is leaving home to head up North, and his mom says with tears in her eyes, "Remember us, son. Always remember us." The other one is the last scene of the film where the warden says to Superman "This country is safe again, Superman. Thanks to you." Then Superman responds with "No, sir. Don't thank me, warden. We're all part of the same team. Goodnight." Both scenes capture the core essence of the character in just a few seconds, yet WB can't seem to make an entirely new Superman film based on moments like that.
Yes we need a REAL Superman movie that's not in Snyder's dark style but is light and inspirational!
@I AM THE INCREDIBLE SHADOWS Right on!👍🏿
You really hit the nail on the head with this one. It's really sad that, despite how we're currently drowning in a massive sea of recent superhero media, Superman is being woefully neglected despite the fact that he's arguably the one hero that we need the most right now.
Also, it's funny how you said that Superman could have a face that we won't expect because I honestly believe that Paddington 2 is an almost perfect Superman movie. Every essential trait that makes Clark so compelling is perfectly embodied in that bear.
So what you're saying is the director of Paddington 2 should make the next Superman movie right? lol jk
Unironically yes.
@@webbedshadow2601 you joke but i could see that working quite well. my other candidates would be Enrico Casarosa and Brad Bird.
@@arcadeassassin7176 Would it be an animated Superman film or live action I wonder?
@@webbedshadow2601 live action has worked well in the past but i think animation could be interesting. in terms of plot however, it would follow a 10 year old Jonathan Kent learning about his powers and finding out that his dad is secretly Superman.
Part of me wishes Christopher Reeve was born 40 years later than he was 😂
If they make a new superman movie, I really don't want it to be an "evil superman" type story. Injustice is great but "evil superman" is so overdone nowadays and it's not really what the character of superman actually is.
I love Batman (as a character) so much but we have so many Batman movies (good&bad) that I really really would’ve preferred to see a good Superman movie. He’s such a amazing and inspiring character I just wish we’d see that in movie format.
I agree Batman is m my favorite character in of all time but we need a Superman movie
We literally live in a generation where people think that homelander and Omni man are more relatable then Superman
Biggest red flag
Who even is Homelander?
@@justuraveragecunt9005 Evil superman, from The Boys series
@@justuraveragecunt9005 superman-ish character in The Boys, Amazon prime series that about if the league and heroes aren't good and hiding horrible bad things behind
This generation thrives off cynicism. It’ll be hard for a Superman movie to work UNLESS it’s done extremely well. Like Superman All-star types of perfection.
I just want a true super man film, not any of this “what if” stuff or “snyderverse” darker/“real” superman. Superman inspires hope and is ironically a perfect human despite not being an actual human and I just wanna see another superman that makes me feel that way rather than questioning why he’s destroying a city to fight a villain but that’s just me.
True
Superman never destroyed the city genius. 10 years and you people still cant muster up the attention span to pay attention to the media you're talking about. MCU has absolutely rotten your brains to the point of no return.
The world engine destroyed most of the city, and Superman died nearly stopping it. Then Zod nearly destroyed the city, and once again Superman was caught helpless trying to stop it.
Matt Reeves will have Batman chasing Penguin onto a crowded freeway and get innocent people killed for his insane obsession with Selina, but it's okay because this is an amateur Batman.... Superman isn't an amateur in Man of Steel? The farm boy who we see never even throw a punch until a week before the final fight? Who just learned how to fly that same day?
The only Superman movie you deserve is one where he kills Zod and says "well, that just happened!"
I just want to see my wholesome, courageous wallflower punching space demons in the face on the big screen. that's all I'm hoping for lol
Everything you just said screams "i don't know who the fuck superman is"
@@_androo_9202 Yes because every version of Superman is known for their powers and the struggles they have to through for being so OP. Wait no...that's Superboy Prime nvm. Wait no that's Cyborg Superman nvm...yeah nvm that's just incorrect...
I think that a superman as a character can work very well given in the hands of the right filmmaker as he is a bit tricky to handle. I think we all deserve a superman movie by now since the last one was almost 10 years back.
That's why I thoroughly believe a director like Brad Bird could be perfect for a Superman film as has proven over the years that he truly a fan if the Superman we all know and love.
As long as we get a movie about the man, rather than having the super take up most of the screen time, I'll be fine
Batman is someone I relate to, Superman is what I hope we strive to be. I don't want a "realistic" Superman. Dreary and dark aren't inherently "realistic". I've met people who have suffered loss, and strive for hope. Yes, my loss, and my darkness makes me relate to Batman. But in the best stories, Batman acknowledges what Superman brings to people. Experiencing darkness doesn't make you aposed to hope. I need my hopeful characters, as much as I need the characters who's experience match my own.
A sequel movie to Man Of Steel called ’Superman’ would be perfect. Imagine Spielberg doing a Superman movie. Jesus christ
no henry plzl et his garbo superman die
You're delusional, Man O' Shit ain't Superman.
I always wanted to see a live-action adaption of the comic Superman: What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way.
Same. That's honestly the best story they could adapt right now if they wanted to make a Superman movie
Bad Superman adaptations tend to forget that he isn't Superman first but he is Clark Kent first and Superman second. Many other Kryptonian's have the exact same powers but only Clark managed to became a beacon of hope. This is because of Jonathan and Martha Kent doing a great job in raising Clark on their farm. Clark Kent is a good man, a really good one. He is the core of Superman. Without Clark, Superman is nothing. Without Superman, Clark is still Clark and always would be.
For Batman, it's different. Bruce Wayne (metaphorically) died that night in the alleyway. What was left of the boy was a broken and sad child. The billionaire Bruce Wayne is the disguise, while Batman is his true self.
You. You get it.
Awesome comment, wow
Superman is the most relatable superhero ever,he is just a farmers boy who was brought up on Kent farm and wants to do good in the world,he isn't always happy but he isn't always sad either,I don't know why filmmakers decide to take either of those two extreme ends of emotions and base the whole superman character being that when in the comics he is mix of both of those emotions
The way Clark was raised, the love his parents gave him, his town gave him, hell, his planet gave him. Makes him more human than anyone. The ideals the Kent’s instilled in him make him SuperMAN. Despite being an alien from a planet light years away, he is human. More human than even Batman who might have no powers but struggles to find emotional connection and stability, who’s seen the worst of humanity and can’t always see the best.
I agree so so so strongly. especially when it comes to the sincerity aspect of superman. Too many movies lecture audiences nowadays I want a superman movie that shows the small acts of heroism that he inspires in others. and I really don't want him to lecture me just lead by being that beacon of hope and goodness.
Absolutely agree! We need a Superman movie more than ever that installs that hopeful optimism he always has. Great video as always!
When things look dire is when we need optimism the most. Superman was created during world war II has a sign of hope and faith in a better tomorrow. He represent the best of all of us and what we all should aspire to be.
It's going to be a long time until we get another superman as great as Henry cavill.....Warner Brothers has really lossed out. As much as we need a superman movie we need an open world superman game that makes us feel like superman much like what insomniac has done with spiderman
Yes. A game is needed too.
@Mr. M at this point theyre trying to get as much money out of the failed DC extended universe......rather than regrouping and rebuilding the foundations
What is so great about henry cavil superman? You people are nuts he's a terrible actor and his movies were awful.
@@guilhermepicolloduarte8110 wtf are you smoking?
I really wish
Here you go: Superman Legacy in the making by James Gunn. Times couldn't be better
With the number of evil interpretations of superman we got with Omni Man and Homelander, I legit believe it would be more subversive to make a movie where Superman is an actual good guy at this point.
I never understood why would be THAT complicated making a optimistic Superman in a today standard movie, I mean, the outcast is always liked by the public.
With this premise, I'd like to say how much I agree with Alex's words: we live in a "dark and gretty" world and… it's starting to become almost unrealistic and annoying that most of modern characters are like the world they criticize… "because you got to fight fire with fire"(?)… I don't know and I don't think it works.
In a world like ours… I don't know, I just miss that almost naive thinking that any of us can be good with the right help and Superman, to me, has always been that "right help", the figure that is superior not because of his power, but because of how he thinks, how he loves, how he would never give up on us… superior on a human level.
Superman has always been this to me: the best of human race without being human
It's complicated make a Superman movie because
It will not have the Coolness
A lot of cool/anti-heroes characters are the mainstream
I guess no one wants a good guy who just wants to help humanity
It will be called "STEROTYPE"
@@james_isaac Everything's a stereotype. But really, the whole edgy and brooding antihero thing is old.
Supes isn't an outcast,he's an ALIEN,pretending to be HUMAN.
@@powerbad696 True. He stands with people, not away from or above.
@@parkerboy795 i Guess it's boring for few
Still people like the edgy characters more than they do the Good Guy Characters
Which is a sad thing to say the least..
Thank you for perfectly stating all the reasons that I and many others adore this character, and why we need him now more than ever.
Superman is the hero the world will always need. Regardless if your not a fan of the character, Superman is still the character that has changed comic book media indefinitely. Superman is many things to so many people, but deep down I think Christopher Reeves's summed up Superman perfectly:
*"He's a friend"*
Superman loves all of us, even when we don't love ourselves. Superman taught me to keep on going in this crazy, cynical, often grim world, and to not lose hope for a better tomorrow.
Rest in Peace Tim Sale. Your art has transcended comic book illustration and has inspired so many, including myself.
I loved the way The Batman ended and it totally fit and everything, but I also couldn’t help but think “You know, Superman’s whole schtick is hope, kinda bittersweet that Batman got a movie in this millennium that encapsulates that idea so well before Superman did.”
"You will give the people an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders."
I NEED to see you do a deep dive on Richard Donner's Superman. The first superhero movie. It seems mostly forgotten nowadays by a lot of comic book movie fans and that really saddens me.
What have we here! This’ll be awesome to watch ❤️
Even though it’s far fetched could you imagine if a proper Superman WAS made and then somehow got the chance to meet Pattinson Batman. That would be pretty neat!
Seeing a Superman movie where the guy fights for justice and to create a world where no one has to cry not because it's the right thing to do but because he himself finds fighting for that ideal beautiful, would be pretty cool
People tend to overlook the "man" part of his name, and focus on the super. A story about him should have his powers take a backseat to Clark's personality being his true super power. His bright and colorful persona make people tend to think he's just some goody two shoes, always smiling, always optimistic, always fearless and perfect. A certain line in his last movie makes people think he's just the embodiment of hope. A property about him takes real passion and knowledge for his character, you can really explore darker and deep themes with him: stories of loss, pain, depression, sadness, confusion, anger, and in the end, how love, truth, justice, and positivity win.
Now more than ever we need a superman movie, but I'm scared that the writers of today are so bitter and different they want to change who Clark is at the core. Thank you for making this video, it really does sum up my thoughts perfectly
They should make a in movie version of "Up In The Sky" simple story that explains Superman perfectly
Not only are we being drowned in super hero media, as of lately, we're also being drowned with the superheros being the villains or villain origins. The boys, Invincible, black Adam, Multiverse of Madness, Joker, the dark timeline from Zack Snyders justice league, etc.. My point being, although it was fun and a subversion of the genre to begin with, I miss when superheros were just that, super and heros. DC and warner brothers seem to flood the market with batman, as would I, it clearly makes the most money, but it's been done to death. I absolutely love the superman and lois tv show and is akin to a breath of fresh air and a movie along the sames lines would be brilliant.
The best live action superman is somehow from the CW. Superman and Lois gives the superman we need
I'd really like to see a Superman film that features Metallo as the main villain. Not even just because that Kryptonite chest would mean it's a fair fight, but because it would be fascinating to see a character who isn't human but earned/learned humanity through the compassion of others go against someone who WAS human but lost that humanity in one of the most horrifying ways possible. To me, that humanity is always what's made Supes such an incredible character, so seeing that be the focus of a film would be a dream come true. And who knows? Maybe Superman could inspire Metallo to rediscover his humanity, just like he does with people across the world every day.
Probably the best video I have seen about Superman in a very, very long time. Honestly, I think as time has gone on I’ve lost faith in characters like Superman because the world itself is so cynical, dark, and unforgiving. In turn, I’ve grown up thinking of Superman as boring and uninspired, when in actuality, he’s quite the opposite. Whatever happens, Superman deserves a new movie, a new game, a fresh start. The world deserves it.
All-Star Superman: The Movie
I’ve written my own superman scripts and I showed my pal and he cried I was so proud of it I wish I could make this movie, thank you for the video Alex
Superman is a character that should inspire, gives hope, always does what's right, because he believes in the good of humans. I don't care is Superman is relatable, I care if he inspires me and everyone else to be better. Sure, he can have a few slight changes, but Superman's ability to defy odds, and even take the right path when he is betrayed is what makes him an amazing character.
I would love to see an actual decent superman that actually gets the character right for once because quite frankly, I'm personally tired of the oh so "original" concept of superman but evil story, sure it's cool the first time but not after the millionth 1st time
If only WB would get their shit together in regards to the character, a Superman stand alone movie would be what everyone needs right now.
A video game instead
@@thebatman5852 Man if only
Superman was my first favorite comic book superhero. I watched Superman 1, 2, and 3 when I was a kid and loved it (3 is _eh_ now though). But after years of mediocre DC movies that involve the man of steel, I switched to Spider-man. Hopefully someday, there would be a superman movie that would reawaken my love for the superhero.
The infuriating irony of seeing someone who defended the Snyderverse asking now for a respectful Superman film...
@SGN For Snyder cultists, anything less than boundless praise equates to trashing your favourite product. For anyone else, his videos were pretty clear as to what his stance is.
Bro I can't say it enough, your takes/videos on batman and superman are honestly brilliant. You get it, I love watching your videos on these characters. Like literally the other day I was thinking about just what you said, a period piece in the 30's for superman where his saying "the American way" turns into "better tomorrow" as he has to work through all the injustice. Anyway, it's awesome how well you speak about these characters, your one of the few people on TH-cam that I feel actually understands them.. Superman is great because he's more human than all of us without even being one. He's literally ted lasso but has powers, and that's why he's spectacular.
I grew up with superman and was shaped as a person by him and it breaks my heart when people call him boring and disrespect him because he is the perfect hero to look up to.
We need a live action Superman movie based or inspired by All Star Superman as I really think that storyline and the animated movie showed the best of Superman and more specifically it showed just how human he can be.
Man, I wish they made a superman movie that dives in the "weird and random" part of superman stories. You know, stuff like "superman is rescuing people from a burning building, then Mr Mxyzptlk turns him into a grasshopper and the people into chicken."
I NEVER thought I’d see a single other person bring up that panel from Superman: For All Seasons. Seriously one of the greatest stories in comic book history, such a perfect origin to Superman and Lex. And the crazy thing is, there’s barely any action in that story. Because Superman isn’t a dragon ball character, he’s a down to earth, endlessly optimistic symbol of hope. His human side, his aspirations, his motivations, those are what make a good Superman story.
"A Better Tomorrow" -- that is so good. I like this as a replacement for "and the American Way."
please make new one about Gunn's Superman (and with other Supes family to fit in new Gunn universe)
I personally would say the Snyder trilogy are pretty rad superman movies. Might not capture what you like about the character. But i appreciated the immigrant/adopted child story of MoS, the unsure of himself in a complicated world story in BvS, and the his homecoming in ZSJL.
@Mr. M can you cite to me any moments when Snyder's "Superman" does a little good thing without being forced by an outside person (Jonathan, Lois, Batman, Zod, Jor El)?
This is simple : this moment doesn't exist.
@@adonisfarhat8905 Superman's Humanity comes from those people, of course he looks towards them
to go beyond what he sets himself.
@@adonisfarhat8905 Saving the crashed bus, rescuing the oil rig workers, protecting his coworker, going to testify on Capitol Hill and spending most of BvS trying to aid families. negatively impacted by Batman.
@Mr. M *mic drop*
We really do need a return back to formula, Snyder kinda twisted everyone's view on the character so we really need someone to give him the all-star treatment.
@Mr. M moreover, Snyder made Superman to come through a long path, so he chooses to be all that boyscout thing. He is struggling to choose, not just being good because of his parents
Back to formula!? *willem dafoe voice*
@Mr. M That's cool and all but it's clear that didn't work nor resonate with the audience and almost everyone agrees the movies suck, so maybe they need should change direction once again.
This aged well
Batman Begins (2005) and Superman Returns (2006) should’ve led to Batman v Superman. Christian Bale and Brandon Routh were the perfect age to build a DCEU for 2 decades. Would’ve been better than what we got. 💯
I'm just sick of people calling Superman "boring" and "shallow". They haven't even read or seen stuff that makes Superman the icon that he is.
Because he is boring and shallow, maybe hes cool in 80s-00s but the world changed. People loved complex character, with flaw, not mr always right and almighty which his only weakness is green rock.
@@destinyhero4795 Just claim your opinion to be the universal truth. Meanwhile I'll read "All-Star Superman" a comic considered one of the pioneers of its medium because of its multifaceted look into superman, and it came out in 2010. Anyway, what's wrong with hope and optimism if I may ask? What most modern stories sell is just "edgy" stuff that is confused for being mature. Batman v Superman is edgy as hell, but it will never be as mature as Spider-Man 2 (a very hopeful film that took liberal inspiration from 1978's Superman). Still, its your opinion, but at least don't claim it as universal truth.
@@destinyhero4795 Superman is neither boring nor shallow. In fact, Superman is more complex than you give him credit for. Superman does have flaws, but still tries to be a good person, and there's nothing wrong with that. Superman isn't almighty either. There are plenty of beings in the DC universe as powerful or more powerful than he is. Plus, Superman's weakness isn't just Kryptonite. He's got plenty of other weaknesses, with his humanity being both his greatest weakness and his greatest strength. Superman cares about people, which villains do take advantage of, but it's that caring part of Superman's character that draws people towards him, even now. Superman is the hero that the world needs.
@@prakharkirtijajoria5314 I agree with you. Superman is an icon that is still relevant in this world.
@@destinyhero4795 no
*Honestly, if Superman just had better movies in recent years* (or any at all) he’d be on Spider-Man’s level of popularity rn 🤷🏾♂️
Unfortunately, that isn't the case because people don't really seem to understand Superman.
parkerboy795 - true.. but that’s why you’d need a proper director and writer to convey why he’s so complex
WE DID IT!
Dropping the “American Way” just furthers the cynicism. Superman is Americas superhero and now more than ever he needs to be represented as such. America needs its own identity, it needs it own hero’s; hero’s that are personalized. Superman should represent what America can be. He shows us all what being our best selves can look like. America needs it’s superhero. It needs someone to show us what the “American way” looks like.
I agree people are already not committing fully to the character when they ignore the "American" part. It was the American way that was instilled in him by his parents, who taught him that truth and justice ARE the American way. Even Superman and Lois seems to embrace this part of the character by having him work so closely with the American military.
@@michaelclausen1135 Thank you! You expanded on my original point brilliantly. I think we can recognize that there are things about America that aren’t working right, but that doesn’t mean we have to run from it. By changing his catchphrase we run away from it, something that is the very antithesis of Superman.
@@yrrej9696 Exactly, like Man of Steel is not my favorite version of the character but I love that Snyder so heavily makes the movie about his roots and sets the majority of it in Smallville. Focuses so heavily on the fact that he's from Kansas. Superman is actually the only character perfectly positioned to comment on the country. Because his roots are in small towns and rural America but he equally appreciates the urban areas because he chooses to make his living there. And since the biggest disparity in America right now is the divide between the small towns and the big cities and the lifestyles therein, Superman is actually that bridge that shows the two can coexist. That humble, fair guy who when staff at the office talk about how a bunch of yokels are ruining the country because of who they vote for, he can stick up for them and say they're practical people who are just trying to do what's best for them. While at the same time he can shoot straight with old friends from Smallville when they're being small-minded.
@@michaelclausen1135 Beautiful! what you said about small town versus big city Clark Kent. I never thought about that duality in him. Thanks for that. Adds a whole new layer to the character.
@@michaelclausen1135 Did you forget the parts where The Kent's raised him to be selfish and where his cooler dad is the alien hologram?
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