Psychonauts 2 Update #6 - The Aquato Family

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  • Welcome to another project update for the excellent game Psychonauts 2! Today, you'll get an insight into the creation of some very special new characters: Raz's family!
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  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 6 ปีที่แล้ว +654

    "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." -Shigeru Miyamoto

  • @drippskipp1712
    @drippskipp1712 6 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    Wow, seeing Frazie animated and alive makes me smile. she's definitely got an instantly loveable design.

    • @kdjets
      @kdjets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She's beautiful! I saw the updated character models for the old characters in the PAX East demonstration, but the new characters are so expressive and interesting while taking design guidelines from the original game!

    • @coralunasoleil5265
      @coralunasoleil5265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES!!! Sitting here grinning, I am SO excited for this game. Started replaying the first tonight for like the sixth time lol

    • @itsblitz4437
      @itsblitz4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have come a long way.

  • @GREY-te1vm
    @GREY-te1vm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    I don't care when this game comes out, it could come out in 2020 for all I care. I just really want the best for this game and for it to be great.

    • @JJoh4040
      @JJoh4040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      simeon seven oh naw not 2020 it's been a decade since this the first came out

    • @steviegilliam5685
      @steviegilliam5685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      simeon seven when is the game coming no how?

    • @sedefendendo8851
      @sedefendendo8851 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      well said

    • @indigowendigo8165
      @indigowendigo8165 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think a trailer says it will be this year in 2019. :p
      Sadly I have no idea when this year though. :(

    • @theultimatebro9278
      @theultimatebro9278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You got your wish

  • @ThatOneShyguyCartoons
    @ThatOneShyguyCartoons 6 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Yea, pretty much figured there was no way it'd make a 2018 deadline.

    • @BrenoRanyere
      @BrenoRanyere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The deadline was going to be 2018???

    • @thebibegenesis1068
      @thebibegenesis1068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its gonna be in the first months of 2021

    • @MrMadshepherd
      @MrMadshepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s gonna be some time in 2021 maybe... if we’re lucky

    • @FelisImpurrator
      @FelisImpurrator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to late 2021, it's coming out in nine days and the wait is killing us all.

  • @crackster234
    @crackster234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I always wished that Tim would release all the home recorded footage from the development of Psychonauts 1. I'd love to see the journies everybody took during the development process.

  • @DarkAsDawn
    @DarkAsDawn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I am so in love with Frazie's design!!

    • @Jahof20s
      @Jahof20s 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She is probably gonna love Lili.

    • @diegoultraman
      @diegoultraman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin Holland don't give ideas to ruin this game by fan fic

    • @Jahof20s
      @Jahof20s 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I meant like a little sis in law.

    • @dun_dun6440
      @dun_dun6440 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She so gorgeous

    • @magnusm4
      @magnusm4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a critic of details and i immediately loved her ear. I noticed the dark inside with the spiral. That's unique and I love small details like that on games that separate them from the norm and make it stand out but not look out of place

  • @ThadiusMeyers
    @ThadiusMeyers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The great thing about Psychonauts is it’s timeless style. The original game still to this day looks absolutely fantastic. You guys really perfected that world. Can’t wait to play Psychonauts 2!

  • @Deliveredmean42
    @Deliveredmean42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dang, seeing the difference from 2017 to release is pretty interesting.

  • @StrawHatNineTailedRy
    @StrawHatNineTailedRy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I can't believe Tim denied Zack that handshake. The true betrayal of 2017.

  • @smstaudt
    @smstaudt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    If it means putting out the best, most finished product you can, by all means take your time DoubleFine!

  • @gigamuffinsofie5485
    @gigamuffinsofie5485 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    the baby did it

  • @Zm9yZ290dGVu
    @Zm9yZ290dGVu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Frazie looks amazing. I love all the circus-styled stuff.
    I'm glad it's not coming in 2018, because I want this game to be perfect.

  • @milkmancometh1216
    @milkmancometh1216 6 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Please take your time. Don't feel pressured to release it early because of hype. Make sure it's great before you release.

    • @that_girl_with_the_afro
      @that_girl_with_the_afro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Milk Man Cometh Thank you milkman. 🥛

    • @Hagaren333
      @Hagaren333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@that_girl_with_the_afro He is the milkman, his milk is delicius

  • @JoaoGa210
    @JoaoGa210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The haste is enemy of the art, take the time you need, guys.

  • @ghostling170
    @ghostling170 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am really loving the look on the Aquato Family especially Frazies design, it looks awesome

  • @skyeyasminxo
    @skyeyasminxo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    played this game when i was 7 or 8 on my ps2 and i’m now 20 patiently waiting for this sequel. take your time! we know it’s going to be great.

  • @justaguy2732
    @justaguy2732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Character designs are lovely. Campbell has really honed in on his style over the years, good job guys

  • @SuperFirstSecond
    @SuperFirstSecond 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love you guys, but I never once thought a 2018 date was realistic. This update is also pretty serendipitous, I've been replaying Psychonauts 1 on my fancy new (old) original Xbox and have just been pouring over the vault memories, and its cool to see the rest of Raz's family fleshed out.
    I'm still impressed at how effective a series of static, monochrome images were at detailing that world.

  • @Videogamer96_
    @Videogamer96_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    -Psychonaunts 2 update video
    Yay!
    -Game probably won't release in 2018
    D:

    • @greyzone1996
      @greyzone1996 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would say 2020 is the release date. :)

    • @crackster234
      @crackster234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The 2018 release date was way too optimistic for a game as big as Psychonauts 2, so I never really expected it to come out so early. I'm just glad they care enough about the game to not release it early and have it be garbage.

    • @Anonymouthful
      @Anonymouthful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their only now starting to make characters and levels, just that alone will take a lot of time.

  • @petethepanda
    @petethepanda 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Our office had a similar “searching TH-cam for the best fireplace video” moment last week 😁

  • @Stimpackswe
    @Stimpackswe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Good, take your time! I prefer my games well done.

  • @SephirothinLEGO
    @SephirothinLEGO 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    you know how a lot of game companies have one or two developers that people recognize and are fans of, like kojima and jonothan blow? i'm a fan of everyone at double fine

  • @DelayAndMentlegen
    @DelayAndMentlegen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Don't rush, whatever you do, do not rush, i can wait for 50 more years

  • @Herowebcomics
    @Herowebcomics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was a little ticked off when i found out that the game may not be ready by 2018 but then I realized, this isn't some annual title cranked out by some corporate conglomerate that's just trying to make a quick buck!
    This is a lovingly crafted work of art!
    Take as long as you need guys!

  • @renann3
    @renann3 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Awesome! It sucks a little bit that we won't be getting the game in 2018, but I guess it's for the greater good.

    • @garfieif8187
      @garfieif8187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the greater good!

  • @printw7307
    @printw7307 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Raz's family look great. Take your time. We'll wait.

  • @HBShanks16
    @HBShanks16 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Frazee has officially become my favorite character

    • @teamkozmicabyss512
      @teamkozmicabyss512 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Golden Sekona yes me too. now i wanna see all his family modeled. i love the artstyle of psychonauts so much

  • @michael_loc009
    @michael_loc009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your work on Psychonauts 2 has come to fruition. Thank you - Double Fine team for making every effort to make the game as a masterpiece. #LookforwardToPsychonauts3

  • @inferno232
    @inferno232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Damn, now I want to paint on black velvet, too. That looks RAD.
    And 2019 isn't too terribly far off, especially if you've made this much progress already, it looks like a lot of groundwork is up. Take your time; I think everyone wants the best final product you can deliver.

  • @joeymag593
    @joeymag593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing all these videos made me finally go back and finish the first Psychonauts. It's so much fun and the characters and world are so lovingly detailed. I cannot wait to get the sequel! (When it's good and ready, of course. Wouldn't want a "Psychonauts 2077" situation.)

  • @isabelle3556
    @isabelle3556 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    OMG! I’ve wait all my life to finally meet the Aquato Family! FINALLY!!

  • @henveee
    @henveee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Character design is great, very nostalgic. Glad you guys are taking your time with this masterpiece

  • @EthalaRide
    @EthalaRide 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh man, I already LOVE Frazie! Her design is awesome!

  • @toniconge7003
    @toniconge7003 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You dudes took your time with "Broken Age" and I loved it so just take all the time you need again please!
    Thanks for the update videos.

  • @tommj4365
    @tommj4365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not coming out 2018... but is coming out tomorrow! Seeing some awesome reviews roll in. So proud of you guys

  • @aaronlubiano8822
    @aaronlubiano8822 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Donatella: *wears a cape*
    Edna Mode is shaking

  • @Leave_Angry
    @Leave_Angry 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such incredible talent on display here. The Frazee design and animations are inspiring. Can't wait to meet the rest of the family!
    Keep up the great work, DoubleFine Team!

  • @carrefamily01
    @carrefamily01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    u guys keep doing what u do best! psychonauts(1) was awesome and i know the new one will be great. keep it going!

  • @chocobosROK
    @chocobosROK 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing these videos of behind the scenes. All the art and animations so far are awesome!

  • @IkesDaddelbox
    @IkesDaddelbox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks fantastic. It's like an HD version of the original. I was ready for a possibly different direction but this is better than anything I imagined. You now have the technology to go wild with the art style. I can't wait to see where you go from here.

  • @Zm9yZ290dGVu
    @Zm9yZ290dGVu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    YES! NEW PSYCHONAUTS 2 FOOTAGE!

  • @onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419
    @onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and yeah take all the time you need and the most importantly have the most fun while creating it merry Christmas double Fine

  • @eS201Frost
    @eS201Frost 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you DoubleFine, take your time, and happy holidays.

  • @CasseroleBlast
    @CasseroleBlast 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super excited for future updates! Happy holidays!

  • @JoeSlap
    @JoeSlap 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely job, keep it up and happy holidays!

  • @brainfreeze10
    @brainfreeze10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That animation looks great, wow

  • @jafafa
    @jafafa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it strange that when I heard "It won't be out in 2018" my reaction was "Good!" I want it baked to perfection.

  • @Metalizationer
    @Metalizationer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited! Happy Holidays Double Fine! Frazee looks so good! Loving the designs so far! Omg! And new Peter McConnell music always satisfies!! Take your time you talented goons! :D

  • @Kavukamari
    @Kavukamari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love you guys, thanks for what is easily the game of the year for 2021

    • @Kavukamari
      @Kavukamari 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      and the best birthday present I could have asked for

  • @jeffcross9960
    @jeffcross9960 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would love to see this on the Nintendo Switch... I know it will take time so after it comes out I understand, but please put it on Nintendo switch when you can

  • @paullee6371
    @paullee6371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It will be worth the wait

  • @doorway3995
    @doorway3995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tim: I want to make a game about Frazie
    Horizon zero dawn: Hello im Alloy

  • @zacal84
    @zacal84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks amazing you guys, have a great holiday.

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity3638 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth the wait. Been watching people play the first one and seeing what stood out to them. Turns out, different for each person I have found. Some like the small details, others find the platforming stands out most. Some say it's the difficulty, some say it's the sheer amount of collectables.

  • @AliceAutumn
    @AliceAutumn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    surely its damn sad that we're gonna have to live another year+ without psychonauts 2 but
    yknow
    out of all gamedev guys i think i trust you the most

  • @risus6589
    @risus6589 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please do not rush this game. Take your time. It would be the best game that is ever made.

  • @AkatsukiCerberus
    @AkatsukiCerberus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raz's family are beautiful!!!! Oh gosh I can't wait to see them all in action

  • @NekoNekoSenpai
    @NekoNekoSenpai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS PSYCHONAUTS 2

    • @MrRenix1990
      @MrRenix1990 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kasarin Benn unfortunately We’ve to wait until next December ;(

  • @6yxou6o6ep
    @6yxou6o6ep 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm really excited for this game! And I hope you'll make film about creation of this game.

  • @itaylevin4555
    @itaylevin4555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks so AMAZING! I'm gonna play psychonauts again this week :)

  • @LaserBungalow
    @LaserBungalow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omg I love Frazie she looks rad af!

  • @cooperross9495
    @cooperross9495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings from 2021, when the game is actually out! I for one had a lot of fun with it!

  • @abovethuniverse
    @abovethuniverse 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up all the awesome work ya'll, I'm playing the first again currently, and i happen to notice that Psychonauts 2 is a thing, had no clue, and it's gotten me all excited over here, so you bet ill be buying it as soon as the release, however long that may take, i know it will be worth! see ya

  • @user-iz7mw5mv1u
    @user-iz7mw5mv1u 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please take all the time you need! I believe in Double Fine! You're the coolest! WOOOOOO!

    • @user-iz7mw5mv1u
      @user-iz7mw5mv1u 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also WOW those Frazie animations are Really Good!

  • @SamuraiMujuru
    @SamuraiMujuru 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Go for it, Tim, I'd throw in on a crowdfund for a Frazie game!

  • @321gametime5
    @321gametime5 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I NEED THIS GAME!!!

  • @VinDieselEatsBabies
    @VinDieselEatsBabies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, now I want a Manny mug...

  • @DCComicsGamer
    @DCComicsGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad that it's not coming for at least another year, but at least it'll be great when it does. Happy holidays guys!

  • @heimdal8
    @heimdal8 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these updates but I really miss the 2PP-videos. They have this amazing mellow/nostalgic feel to them that I adore. Would love to see more of them.

  • @NathanButzer
    @NathanButzer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome character designs!

  • @kdjets
    @kdjets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The animations look incredible! Frazie came out beautifully. Watching the full expression of the characters come out is a joy. I imagine the first game would've looked this good if it weren't for the PS2 limitations.

  • @TheDiamondTardis
    @TheDiamondTardis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet!!! Can't wait!!! Love you Double Fine

  • @Phaota
    @Phaota 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that the baby is named Queepie, like Creepie. Almost like someone had a speech impediment in naming him, "Boy, he's a bit queepie, isn't he?"

  • @DimensionXGamer
    @DimensionXGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait to play this!

  • @MrMadshepherd
    @MrMadshepherd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Frazie is gonna be my favourite character in this one.

  • @_mika-mikazuki_
    @_mika-mikazuki_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As the most people said, take your time dudes, dont need to rush with it. A hurry killed many good games, so dont repeat their mistakes .o
    We'll wait till you'll be compleatly sure that all working perfectly 👌
    Good luck!

  • @FreakinSweet1987
    @FreakinSweet1987 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FUCKBALLS! I need that Raz figurine in my life.

  • @Qublu
    @Qublu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks amazing!! I can’t wait to play it!

  • @averyc5441
    @averyc5441 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The original game was my childhood, I has a house fire and lost everything. I originally had it on the XBOX but rebought the game for ps2 its the only game I go back to, bringing me back to a simple time. THIS GAME WILL HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN ALL OF OUR LIVES keep up the good work! I can't wait to go back to raz and kill it!

  • @samuelsg2423
    @samuelsg2423 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is beautifull, I hope some day work there!

  • @wildcreativekatz676
    @wildcreativekatz676 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so excited! :D

  • @tomg3650
    @tomg3650 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks dopee!

  • @jyacthepianoman
    @jyacthepianoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    when they’re at the desk in the bottom right you can see a figurine of the milkman

  • @romainbayer9098
    @romainbayer9098 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is hype!

  • @CocoandZee
    @CocoandZee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I friggin love Frazie's design! she's like a lovely bluebird!

  • @Nasubionna
    @Nasubionna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh my god, I'm so flippin' excited!

  • @Herowebcomics
    @Herowebcomics 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so looking forward to seeing these guys [and girls] in action!

  • @razputinaquato1829
    @razputinaquato1829 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING!!

  • @fredrikorex
    @fredrikorex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad I got to support this game, I hope for a 2020 release but I'm happy with whatever if it keeps up the quality of the original.

  • @natrajrajput137
    @natrajrajput137 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know what would be a cool idea? It would be cool If you could take us into the mind of a BLIND person. Would you see the sky in SOUND? Light? Black? Letters?

  • @Thisworldisupsidedown
    @Thisworldisupsidedown 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'll forget about the delay if someone can tell me where I can find the manny skull shaped mug.

  • @googisthegreat1397
    @googisthegreat1397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:51 I need those

  • @froztgamergamesreactionsan6298
    @froztgamergamesreactionsan6298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To this day I’m still eager, I’m looking forward to seeing how it goes.

  • @anotherfool9278
    @anotherfool9278 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey, yall take your time and make the game right. we will wait

  • @billlupin8345
    @billlupin8345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish they could duplicate doublefine and make a stealth adventure based on Frazie becoming a psychonaut. While Raz plays therapist and helps fix minds, Frazie plays spy in enemy bases, grabbing intel and sabotaging things

  • @DougalNorges
    @DougalNorges 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So long as it's released before I die, I careth not.

  • @cormacgillis7805
    @cormacgillis7805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great update!! I'm praying for a PSVR version of the game cause it'd be so great to be immersed in it that way... I imagine it's a challenge to do that though.

    • @BacaBananas
      @BacaBananas 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cormac Gillis buy in the rhombus ruin that's psyconauts vr

  • @TwoCentReview
    @TwoCentReview 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see a new character model and one that is so cool. Frazzie was a good choice to model.

  • @gregoryfisher262
    @gregoryfisher262 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew from the start that there was little chance of a 2018 release. Still supported, and still looking forward to a polished final product.

  • @SpyderLondon
    @SpyderLondon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I trust you all to make a great game no matter how long it takes to finally come out :)