SOUTH AFRICA vs WALES | FULL TIME HOT TAKES
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- Lots to discuss following the match between the Boks and Wales at Twickenham. The first game for the World Champions since lifting that crown and the first game for Warren Gatland's men since getting white-washed in the Six Nations.
Aphelele Fassi under the high ball was a gem 💎
A Legend in the making!
@@nadinelund5681I keep telling people fassie got yellow card every second game in urc he is prone to yellow cards dats what he is next tym we wont be so lucky if we get a formidable opponent
Job of fullback not only catching high balls. Fassi did not impress in other areas.
Ja but he's being hanging out with the instructor from the Karate Kid. He needs to be careful.
Typical blacky fckd up alot
Wales just never stops coming at their opponents. Respect 💚💛🇿🇦
Thank you brother 🏴 🤝🇿🇦
Defense was insane!!
I was Twickenham today and got to fulfill one of my sports bucket lists and see Wales play South Africa (and see one of my favourite players Kwagga) in person really enjoyed the Rugby. PSDT and Dewi Lake (the moistest man in rugby 😉) were both great captains.
Congrats on the well-earned win South Africa and eternal respect to the Bokke and Rassie from a Wales supporter. Cymru am Byth!
@@SimplyVee96Nie H.O de Villiers, Dawie Snyman,Johan Heunis of André Joubert sou n hoë bal beter kon vang as Fassi. In fact I counted him catching 9 high ball's and one resulted in Edwil Vd Merwe try! I watched quite a lot of rugby since 1970 and have never seen any fullback ever having a 100% record under high ball. Nether any all black or any other international player.
I think Wales are going to give Australia a hard time! They have plenty to build on before the next game and will only improve.
Hi. I’m from Pretoria. Love your take on the game of rugby. You are building up a good following down here. Enjoying your channel since the World Cup
South African supporter. Born in Wales. Came to SA at the age of 21. ❤Thanks for your rugby content truly the best. Just a heads up for your visit here Tim. It's colder in Krugersdorp than Pretoria and Gauteng come prepared. It's such a wonderful country and the people are amazing. Looking forward to hearing your podcast on SA v Ireland.
As a Wales fan, I watched the first twenty minutes with increasing dread, but overall I was happy with how the team went. We had a few extended stretches of time when we were the better team which I didn’t really expect. We got shown up in areas where we knew we have problems and, sadly, they’re SA's strengths.
But we’re improving there and playing the best in the world, even if they weren’t at their best today. There are still a lot of positives to take from it.
Manie and Handre will be there for as long as they perform. No worries. Sacha my goodness the confidence to kick that 52m pen
Can we talk about it😳I was so impressed
@@KyleandSkye Frans Steyn would definitely have been impressed, that kid has a boot on him!
Hopefully you are so very wrong about ML...
"Rugby getting in the way of a good afternoon of the TMO", that tickled my funny bone 😂
heard that too, but his on point with that one!
I was at the game, the South African fans where great. So Friendly and so positive about Wales even though they smashed us.
Enjoy your time in SA!! I hope you have a truly wonderful time!
I was Twickenham today and got to fulfill one of my sports bucket lists and see Wales play South Africa (and see one of my favourite players Kwagga) in person really enjoyed the Rugby. PSDT and Dewi Lake (the moistest man in rugby 😉) were both great captains.
Congrats on the well-earned win South Africa and eternal respect to the Bokke and Rassie from a Wales supporter. Cymru am Byth!
Boks clearly a bit rusty but have a few newbies that impressed!
EvdM and SFM - class acts
SFM onto the pitch, steps up kicks a 50m penalty. 🧊
Edwil van de merwes double tackle was epic. And his ending try, brilliant. I really loved Fassi and how well he contested the high ball.
We have 3- 14’s now that are incredible
Highlight of the game ! Fantastic defence.
Kylmore strikes again! And Paul Roos of course...
My impression was that South Africa were looking to find their new combinations. I think that Rassie has started building squad depth for the next World Cup.
Exactly!
They started preparing for 2027 world cup in 2022 already. Most of these guys were selected a year ago. Rassie is a brilliant coach. Hope he can keep up with the changes and stay fresh and keep the Bok Bond strong.
Yes. And this is the reason Ireland will very likely struggle to make their mark in the next WC. We're not building to WC's because the 6 nations is our cash cow and we have to make that our primary focus each year.
One of the best sport channels out there. Fair and constructive. From a saffa 🇿🇦
As a South African supporter I was a bit nervous at half time. Yes Springboks looked rusty but first game as a unit this season.
I was saying to my friend, we maybe need to think about a preseason friendly against a team like Chile, Uruguay or Romania. Just to get those initial jitters out.
The gap from WC/Autumn intl to summer tests/Rugby Champ is too long. Any test is better than going straight in to vital test series for any team. 6 Nations till summer while shorter is still requiring at least a warm up test.
This is especially important if you still have players in Europe who are in the finals stages of their domestic teams competition as there is still today.
@@saints16o5o87 This is true, it does feel a bit long, but bit there are all sorts of other factors that might affect the feasibility of extending the test window:
- Remember that the European teams are really close together and traveling time is equivalent to the time it takes to make a cup of tea. Your wife and kids can easily make the trip from London to Cardiff. In the SH, this means time away from families, extended stay overseas etc.
- Players unions. Any decision you make regarding where and when which tests are played have to be taken up with them and they need to sign off on it. This means several countries with their own unions all agree. If one changes something (like the test window) other unions might fight against this.
- NH teams tour here at June/July because if they come any later (even late winter) they will probably melt
- SH sides have won 9 out of 10 world cups. Why change the formula if we are this dominant?
Nonetheless, I think there is a simple solution: why can't we field a team like SA "A" play a few games against some nations that struggle to get tests. Play those guys you want to debut etc and see how they do against Japan, Fiji or Samoa. Or if they want the game to be a test, call it a test.
Congratulations mate, i expected us to lose with such a young inexperienced squad but I think they did far better than i anticipated regardless of the score.
Good luck against Ireland buddy
We've often lost first games of the season, think we should have played Portugal first, then Wales... Before the Irish
I have followed your channel during the World Cup and the 6 Nations, your pre match and post match analysis is EXCELLENT. Love your honest analysis…. Can’t wait for the Ireland Tests.
Springbok fan… ❤
Occasional rugby fan. Subscribed during the World Cup and am still here. Your take and unbiased break down of the game is pretty phenomenal. Well done.
Hope you have a wonderful time in my home country, Tim, and cheers for your analysis!
Love your analysis on the games mate! South African here. Yours and Big Jim's channels are excellent!
You hit the nail on the head and I’m glad you talking about it! World Rugby keeps saying they changing laws to speed up the game, but the unnecessary use of the TMO is wasting far more time and slowing the game down a lot more than scrums are.
I have a few thoughts:
- That double tackle from vd Merwe was downright incredible
- Factoring in the try, definitely MoM performance from vd Merwe
- Fassi under the high ball was hella impressive. Keeper.
- Roos was a bit too exuberant, but some good runs from him. Definitely a worthy addition to the Bok setup
- Hendrickse had a shocking first half but I felt he came back nicely in the second
- I'm a huge fan of Esterhuizen but he was very quiet
- Grant Williams is an enticing prospect but he needs to be AT those rucks and not in the mass of humanity INSIDE it.
- Dixon, we definitely need to see more of him.
- Kwagga is much much better off the bench than he is when he starts
- I expected us to have a tricky first half. We didn't look to good but after Rassie presumably went off at half time, we came right
- I think the Welsh can be proud of their charges today. They were severely outgunned but fronted up bravely.
- I hate complaining about the ref, but can someone please explain the scrum penalties to me? I saw us scrumming them away and then getting penalised. Is this something to do with the new rules?
- The 22 drop out for a held up ball is just dumb
- Sacha, what can I say? Very good debut
Agreed with pretty much ALL of that totally
Esterhuizen is no de Allende. Performances like this demonstrate that.
@bbmcars was perplexed by his performance, we've been crying for ages for him 2 be the starter.Man looked like he was woken up 2minutes b4 kick-off..Enjoy the Republic Tim🇿🇦it's the greatest
@@SlekelekeSwela-du4mw I know, right?! We all saw this big beefy lad thinking that he could be our Jonah Lomu and then get this anonymous performance.
On a tangent, go watch that kick again that Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu took after the vd Merwe try. When he put the ball down in front of the posts and just kind of pivoted and kicked. No runup, not from what I could see. It was a real "windgat" move and I loved it. Smooth like butter, that lad is.
Agree with most of this. With Kwagga I thought he looked good. But he looked isolated with his scrambling and charges. Felt like as a team they didn't back each other up fast enough.
Mngomezulu looks to be a great 10 for the Boks going forward!
And kicking further than Frans Steyn!!
He first needs to beat a 69m drop goal to beat Frans
@@stevedavidson666now that's a controversial take! We would have to see it to believe it. Frans regularly kicked penalties and drop goals from 60m+ out.
@@TheLinzitoPodcast I was actually sitting right in line behind him at Twickenham when he scored that drop in 2006, his first in international rugby. However, I seem to remember his success rate wasn't that great afterwards and he overtried it. I get the feeling Sacha F-M will outdo him after that penalty yesterday.
@@SausageDoggg Judging by the fact that the Supersport commentator reckoned the ball landed in the first tier of the stand, we won't have to wait too long for that to happen. I just hope Dobbo and Rassie don't do to him what the Cheetahs did to Goosen by overplaying him. 2027 RWC awaits and I want to see a third in a row cup win!!
"Be the best at the things that require no skill" 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent visual comparison - Koch/Mr Incredible.
Rassie's team choice displays his main goal which is building the next World Cup team. Rather be on it early than late.
Great breakdown of the game once again and kudos to you on getting all those pronounciations right!
That Mr Incredible pop up when discussing Koch...ahahaha
Lol! Spitting image, hey?! 😂
SA looked rusty for sure. Thought Fassi had a great match. Very good under the high ball. Sacha looked the more composed number 10 and did well. The Boks will have to play better against Ireland but I suspect the team will look very different.
Agree with you on all counts
Agree I think we need to start with a better kicker ,love from Pretoria
I wouldn't mind Pollie starting at 10 and Sacha on the bench for Ireland. 👀🔥
Your channel is good for rugby! Can't wait to have you in the RSA! Hope we live up to your expectations!
You will love SA Tim. The “gees” at matches is electrifying.
"Gees" translates to "spirit" like the good atmosphere, the good spirit amongst South African rugby folk.
Well done Bokke!
You did us proud. 💪🥇🇿🇦🏈
The Ref and TMO thought we tuned in to watch them.
Kriel is a superstar.
My wife was at the game whilst I was watching it on telly, and I sent her a message before the end of the game, which read something like, "I predict that the Springboks will win the next World Cup." She sent a message back saying, "What a surprise. " Yes, I'm a Springbok fanatic, but I believe that although there were nervous jitters in the first half, especially, there is some phenomenal talent in this team. When Rassie moulds these guys, they'll be brilliant.
Well done, Tim, your prediction was spot on.
You're going to have a blast in SA. We're a hospitable bunch, especially if you like the Bokke.
I met her, we had a great day… awkward… just messing mate!
Thanks Tim. Agree overall.
- whilst the captaincy in the bok team is a shared one amongst the senior cohort, it lacked energy under PSDT. I say this with deep respect for the man and his skills. I feel he is best left to roam and create advantage over managing the game.
2. The tryouts for the most part on the Bok side showed immense promise - you say rusty I say lack of cohesion and identity. They need time.
3. Evan Roos, not for the first time I believe, has been too self absorbed, generally lacking warrior instinct. Cameron H will soon be on his tail. Roos lacks rugby IQ in the moment.
3. Edwill v/d Merwe is heading for stardom. Humble, open, talented and fearless.
4. Sacha F-M has talent in spades, needs some space to explore. In 3 months he will be pressurizing Libbok for 10. If Pollard comes in strong and fit, then I think he could do very well under his wing.
As always thanks for the prompt and clear rapportage.
Welcome to SA. Travel safely
Great channel mate. SAFFA from NZ here.
The best possible team doesn't necessarily mean the best possible players. Sometimes, it's more about the combination.
For me, I think this was more of an experimental game for the boks. Glad to see we are creating more attacking options with Tony Brown as attack coach. Never saw the boks run it from their own half in a while. Looking forward to when the attack clicks. We will be dangerous.
Jesse Kriel was full on attack mode with his tackles
It looked more like a training session for SA, good to see the young guys getting a run out. Fasi, Edwin and Sasha played well
"Wales on rollerskates going backwards" Classic line. Patent that one, Tim!
Rassie is locked into the next world cup. Everything that the Boks will do from here on in is geared towards having optimum depth and confidence in all departments by the time the big show rolls around. He is a scary judge of talent.
Tony Brown: lots of tricks and unexpectedness coming. In the longer time frame, he's going to have a field season with those backline athletes. Magic is coming, no doubt.
Wales were better than anticipated. Still a lot needs to change for the Irish. But have faith in Rassie. But Masuku really needs a look in
Agree 100%
LOTS of people saying the same about Masuku.
@@EggchasersRugby been saying it since team was announced
Masuku has something about him but after watching Sacha play today and how young he is combined with the flyhalves we already have, I think a handful of really good games for the Sharks is not really meriting him playing anytime soon. Especially not in the upcoming Ireland games or in big games in RC.
@business3867 SFM had not played at FH position in 2years what merits him playing? Masuku is legit and has more than a "couple "good games,they're both ahead of Manie L respectfully
1st half was a DISASTER. Boks fast asleep. Rusty AF. Then Rassie yelled at them in the lockers and fantastic ending especially Sacha's 52m kick and Edwill's debut man of the match try.
Congratulations on your 600th video.
I didn't even notice that. Thanks!
The 23 was selected on merit, but they needed to manage the game time of the 'rookies' so some of them started ... De Allende will start v Ireland ... the first half debacle was a lack of teamwork, a new Tony Brown 'quick hands deep' attack, bad decision-making and this was the first game as new combinations except for the tight five .... at the half Rassie reminded them of their mortality and they were a different team when they came out the tunnel for the second half. Marx still a little rusty, PTSD was a little slow, Evan Roos is going to have to play a bit better to compete with Hanekom and Fassi is simply majestic in the air ... all in all I think Rassie has data points for his Ireland Squad. Check.
I think it’s safe to say Sacha is a brilliant kicker. For him to kick a 50m+ kick on debut is magnificent. As for Jordan Hendrikse he still has a lot of work to do. A.Fassi was brilliant under the high ball & he’s attacking abilities is extremely good. & Edwill van der Merwe is just a beast
Jordan Hendrikse maybe the 5th best flyhalf in SA at the moment.
Love your channel and comments. Always so positive!
The most impressive bit is that you're the first non-South African that I heard, reporting on this game, that managed to pronounce Evan Roos' surname correctly! Such a short name but no one got it right!
How did you know?! 😂
Fassi was immense under the highball. And his coming into the providing the extra man on attack was impressive
SA scrums were EPIC. So good to see !!
You are the best game analyst I have ever watched. I have been following you for about 6 months. I look forward to each pre and post game comment.
Would note that Hendrickse runs laterally every time he gets the ball. This puts the whole backline under pressure and erodes space.
That's why we said, don't underestimate Wales. Because yes! They did play their harts out. Well done my Bok brothers💪🏼❤️
Fassi had a stellar performance 👌👌👌that yellow card he got was ridiculous 😂
Aaron Wainright reminds me of Naas Botha. They look alike as well. Some great classics and debuts for the Bokke.
Thank you. Great insight and analysis of the game. I appreciate your commentary
The ref made some strange decisions
He made a lot of terrible decisions.
Agree questionable. I am a saffa but question the yellow against Walsh left wing and the fassi's yellow.
At the end of the day a great win for the Boks and potm debut van der merwe.
@@annettekolb3103The yellow against the Welsh wing was for a cynical offside on the try line, easy yellow.
@jameswyatt4443 yeah but the ref was card happy today
@@annettekolb3103 How?
This was an amazing game. As a South African i didn't enjoy that the tri was awarded. It changed the Wales momentum. But you could say also about decisions made by ref in Wales' favour. Wales showed tenacity, discipline and how great control over their scrums and rucks. They do have a problem with guys being offside. But that can easily be fixed. South Africa just had the right guys in the right spots. Well done Wales and Great work Boks. So proud to be South African.
Really enjoy the channel!! As a South African it's good to hear some honest unbiased opinions. Also unsure about the Manie Libbok omission, but Hendrikse has had a great season and earned his opportunity. Maybe didn't earn another start with his performance, but one to watch. Manie had some rough starts too, so might be a good back up going forward.
Can't wait to have you this side my guy. I love your channel. You going to enjoy craven week, these kids are on another level. Hope you have a great time in SA. I'm in Cape Town and will be watching the SA VS Ireland game from home enjoying a good old braai, beers and good company. Feel free to reach out if you need anything while you here. Cheers
Fasi had a great game. Kudos for Wales. The gave the Boks a good run
You are a legend Tim. Can't wait for you to visit us.
Excellent review Tim. ALL of you observations are spot on.
Great synopsis, thanks Tim. To touch on some of your points..
You are spot on, the TMO came into the game far too often. Too.many stoppages for TMO and referee reviews. World Rugby made such a big deal about wanting to speed the game up to make it more entertaining, but then the ref and TMO grind it down to a whistle blowing tedious affair. The best matches are those where the ref and TMO do not become the central figures of a drama.
Then onto the influence of Tony Brown. Wow wow wow. Springboks are going to be incredibly dangerous when Tony Brown's attacking style of play becomes second nature to the team. If they do not lose their impressive defensive capabilities entrenched by Jacques, but add this attacking style to their game plan... well as a Bok supporter I am thrilled for what the future of Springbok rugby promises. They are on the path to becoming a brilliant all-round team. With their obvious prowess in the scrum, adding that attacking game to the backline... yes please
Monday Morning in Cape Town.....Safe Travels Tim. Looking forward to seeing your Reviews of our beautiful country!
Excellent summary and round up.
Could see bits of NZ influence in the tactics from the boks. Interesting to see how that develops overthe season
Brilliant review as always, Tim. Agree 100% with all your takes. In fact, it felt as if you were reading my mind! Love the bits of humour thrown in, too. Have a wonderful time in beautiful SA and stay alert and safe. Pity it's winter atm, as it can be cold and wet, but the warmth of our people should blow you away. South Africans are a passionate bunch who love rugby (as if you don't know🤣), are vibrant, warm, colourful, soulful, resilient, and welcoming. I'm sure you'll feel the spirit and enjoy the hospitality and culture. Hope you'll be visiting my hometown, magnificent Cape Town (miss it so much!). There's so much to see and do in our amazing country (besides incredible rugby), so hope you get to experience all it has to offer... else you may need to return (several times!!). I consider you an honorary South African (sure many of your fans do) and just love the way you've embraced our outstanding rugby players, coaches, supporters and our nation. Look forward to hearing all your podcasts, and especially excited about the podcasts you'll be doing while in SA. Thanks for an excellent rugby channel. 🙏
Wales did brilliant in stages. They have huge potential. We South Africans gained respect for this young Wales side.
Got up this morning, went to your channel and BOOM, a video. Great way to start the day.
World Rugby wanted to speed up the game, but all the referrals and TMO intervention just halted the game numerous times. Much more disruptive than just resetting a scrum. Aside from the scrums, I think the calls were generally good.
The back line showed flashes of what is possible. I can't tell you how exciting it is to have Tony Brown involved with the Bok squad.
Safe travels Tim! Looking forward to having you in SA.
U should come to cape town south africa....u wille enjoy it❤
This channel is my go to just because of how quickly you drop the videos.
Baie goeie bespreking ! Groete uit Lima Peru!
The South Africans normally start their season that way. I will not read to much into that game. The newbies didn't really impress except for Fassi and Enwil van Merve really impressed 🎉they will have to up their game against Ireland but fortunately by that time they will have all the ammunition available to them. Wales didn't do bad at all but I expected that! Wales can take some positives from that game. We will bag that one but move on to the next! 🎉
I thought it was a little sad walking through London, and I must have seen 50+ people with South African jerseys at least, they were everywhere. I saw 2 people wearing Welsh jerseys the whole time.
Great podcast think you hit the nail on the head
We spent more time in the bunker than Adolf and Eva.
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Brilliant 👏
Mate
Videos always class mate. Discovered your videos last year before the world cup and always enjoy your insights. Looking forward to what you put out in South Africa 👌
South Africa's fast start made them complacent and overconfident ... and the refereeing was well below par again, especially at the scrums.
Welcome to South Africa! All you comments are spot on!
Great review and spot on with all aspects
As a Wales fan I was quite pleased with our chucked together side, 1 pt in it at half time and SA try at the start of 2nd half was a mile forward. Having said that SA decimated us in the scrum and physicality told in the end.
If possible, go make a turn at the Academy week at Jeppe High School in Johannesburg as well ( 24 to 28 June ) . Some international u18 teams such as Namibia and Zimbabwe is playing there together with the local regional teams as an alternative tournament to the Craven Week. Always good rugby there as well.
Unfortunately, I think the boks believed the pre game hype and got too excited. Bok teams always perform better when they think they are underdogs. Credit to Wales, they play a brand of rugby that the boks battle with.
What about fassi he was excellent under the high ball! Where do you think he stands for the Irish tests?
Great content as always Tim - will be great to have you in SA, I think you have definitely struck a chord with fans over here.
Really enjoy your balanced analysis. Also like your old school attitude about the physical aspects of the game.
Great review. Easy to listen to and flows naturally with well educated opinions.
Good analysis, well done
Tim NAILED it. If this new TMO intervention level is the norm it will massively slow down the game. Couldn't believe how slow it felt to make decisions. Some of the scrum decisions against SA were kind of odd as well.
Everything I said.after watching, Welsh were punching well above , we were a little off at the start. And the ref appeared well programmed to send us a message of scrummaging things to come.
Wales played really well,South Africa looked shaky at best,and we're lucky the Welsh lost there way abit in the second half, otherwise the result could have been quite different,the tmo was also way overboard,but the forward passes and things that weren't called was disappointing
Agree with you Scott. TMO's overboard where perhaps they didn't need to then missed the things that mattered??
@@EggchasersRugbyI'm a Bok supporter but why on earth when he was right there did the touch judge not flag the forward pass for Mapimpi's try? The mind boggles! Had we not won, Rassie could have produced a 2 hour video on the refereeing decisions!
First time watching the channel. Great take on the game. Well done. I’m subscribing. 🇿🇦
Poor Estherhuizen, having to play 2nd receiver to Jordan Hendrikse 😢😂
Love the channel. Welshman gives sincere congrats to the Boks. If you compare the performances in the last 6 nations to this, I conclude that Gats is team buildng and getting results. Much more confident, Wainwright, Carter, Ellis, Lake but still waiting for Dyer, Grady to actually impress. They need a lesson in guile from Liam W.
The Boks debutants all did well enough, I thought
1. Libbok always felt like a stop gap option tor me, both Jordan and Sacha are better defenders and both can easily slot into the #12 spot as well, and they are probably the future
2. Edwill van der Merwe had a great debut. He didn't get much ball on attack but were very busy on defence and in ruck support. Made a good break and run down the touchline and his break through the middle to score was typical Edwill, both strength and skill
I think the Bok coaches got what they wanted from the game, their rookies and debutants expanding depth in key areas
The Bok backline was fairly disrupted with new combinations at 9/10 and 10/12 as well as in the back three, so the backline attack didn't quite shape up
Lots of respect for Wales: as said before the game, they’ve pushed as more than most teams in last decade or so
Out of all European countries I think they have the most potential to be number one in the northern hemisphere they have the 🔥
Great content and analysis. Thank you!
Brilliant orsome, game, from, strength to strength
Liam Williams continued to prove his value in a Wales shirt, he was imperious in the air - especially in heavy traffic
TMO comes in all the time, and then when he was needed he couldnt spot our enourmous forward pass that led to one of our tries. Madness
Always great perspective Tim.
I always look forward to your analysis post games. Thank you, I appreciate your channel 😎👊🏽🇿🇦
Hope to bump into you on July 6 in Loftus 😊