Should You Buy A Buell XB9SX | Behind The Enthusiast
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- For those of us who own Buells, we love them dearly. For those of us who don't, there are many reasons holding us back. In this video I will be outlining 5 reasons as to why I don't own one, or why I can't own one.
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As soon as he said a bike is meant to ride with your partner I stopped listening to this young lady😂✌🏼
I have failed you, lol.
I dunno where you’re from but you can get xb9/xb12 for $3-4k all day here. If I had more $$ I’d own more than 1. Not rare or expensive. Also sac up, parts are not hard to find and if you worked at a Harley dealer I would hope you know how to work on them. If you are mechanically declined, go buy a $40k Harley with a warranty that will break faster than a 20yo buell. Ebc makes all the brake parts and they are readily available and if you know the belt part number you can get them at the local auto parts store. The only stuff hard to find sometimes* is body parts if you dump it. Fb has buell used parts pages with everything you need. This video is like saying “I won’t buy an old muscle car cause parts are out of production”. I got a 2003 with 32k miles and the only thing wrong is a small oil leak from the clutch cable into the case which just hasn’t been bad enough to justify fixing yet.
Canada. I wish I could find Buells for that price now. I used to about 5 years ago, but not lately. People think they're gold or something now. I almost bought one 5 years ago but was told to stay away from them due to lack of available parts. Because I felt I didn't get the whole truth, I made a couple videos to have a discussion about Buells and basically network. I work at a HD dealer, yes, however I am no mechanic. "Mechanically declined", lol. Never heard that before. I definitely can't afford that type of bike. You'd be financing it for 10 years! I'll have to check into EBC for my customers as well then. Thanks for the heads up! It's always going to be difficult to get parts, but I never said impossible. If there's a will, there's a way. When parts become scarce, or overpriced for that reason, then yes, I will definitely shy away from something like an old muscle car, especially when I'm a fan of stuff from the 30s, 40s, 50s and even the 60s. Project builds are fun, but not always worth it. Thanks for sharing!
Just bought one for $3k in Northern California
here in kansas i own one, and around here they’re rare compared to the other mainstream bikes. there is one buell within 50 miles. they’re not worth much here cuz people see the name and think china so anyways 🤣
Ever tried getting parts for any exotic car/motorcycle? It's always a hassle no matter what. It's not like a kawasaki zx6-r from 1996 that has been build in the millions. Some bikeparts take longer to get.
I love my 09 Ulysses. It's the most fun bike I've ever owned. I'm not looking for anything else
I had a customer come in today who still has his! He also has a newer touring bike and loves it even more because it's so comfortable. He told me he has zero intentions of selling the Ulysses though.
I’m currently looking for a mint example of the 2008 xb12 SCG in cherry bomb red. Had a 2007 xb9sx and currently own a 2005 xb12s. Hunting down parts is a drag I’ll admit but well worth the trouble. A buell Xb is one of those rare things that makes absolutely no sense. On paper it looks nuts but I’m glade it exists. I normally have several motorcycles at at time but my buell is the show piece. I have bikes that are better in every conceivable way than the buell but I don’t care. A buell will always be my number one. Most long time owners will agree and that’s why the prices are going up. I personally believe they are way undervalued. If you get it you get it. I understand it’s not for everyone though. Bike are toys here in the west and I like interesting toys.
Right on. I'm not a fan of hunting because it's all I ever do, lol. Hunting for the right bike, the right price, colour, mileage, etc... it's definitely a crazy machine. Any time a customer brings a Buell in I'm interested to check it out in the parking lot. Well let's hope the price on one dips at least for me. Anyone I've asked here in Canada says it's better to buy a evo Sportster than a Buell, lol.
Where are you located? I have a 07 and 08 scg. 07 in all carbon, 08 in black
There you have it folks, if you cant get it from Harley, it doesn't exist. Except it does and funny thing is. They are at St Paul Harley Davidson.. LMAO... For the XB9SX for instance they have 691 parts in stock for that bike most of which are OEM Buell parts. Yes, they even have the front and rear brake rotors.
Who is making the claim stuff doesn't exist? I assume you're from the USA. Different scenarios in different countries. We still have some Buell parts on our shelves but nothing that sells on a regular basis.
Dude…these things are far from over priced and they aren’t rare…parts availability can be an issue though
In Canada they are definitely overpriced. No way is it a good idea to pay $8-10k for an old Buell. Heck, you have more potential with a Sportster and it's the same price, or cheaper with lots of aftermarket support.
Have a xb9sx that iv had for under 10yrs, bought fairly cheap then, I know how to work on 95%...have had many different wiring related repairs with opens+shorts, rocker oil leaks in the 15k iv done. can find parts over time but nowadays prices are very high, 10yrs ago different story. They will be collectors bikes if left close to stock forsure. Also nice having an extra parts bike for $300 I found at swap meet different body style but same yr! I would like to keep bike as I could not find a better replacement for same cost/fun ratio and a bike that can do all I want"300mile loops" If you do your own mechanical repairs this bike can be worth it imo
Thanks for sharing your story! It's definitely going to change over the years for sure, I agree. I think this is the case for most, not just Buells. Best to find one sooner than later, but definitely have to keep an eye out for the deals and also the parts as well!
"Super over priced"? "Super rare"?Usually when someone uses "super" when describing something, they're exaggerating. And it seems like it's what's going on here.
I have a 2009 XB9SX (Hero Blue). Very easy to work on. OEM parts can be a little expensive. But, that's to be expected.
@@peekingturtle8457 In reference to the Canadian market not exaggerating at all. It's really disappointing to see how the market is these days for anything, not just Buells or XB9s. Heck, even Sportsters are super overpriced. The used market in the USA seems to be the best, however the exchange rate makes it tough to justify the savings.
I have an xb9sx, and i totally love the bike. When i purchased the bike, it was a basket case. With a little elbow grease and some can-do attitude, it's purring like a kitten. Parts are a little pricey but doable. Not to bad to work on but has some tight spots for sure. They only down fall i can see is that im 6'2" and its a little on the small end for me. Im trying to find the xb12 long version, but the xb9 will do till then. The xb12 is made for taller individuals like me. Hopefully, i can find one soon :)
Awesome. Well that must have been quite the learning experience. Good to know you've had a relatively positive experience so far. I'm still considering one myself but prices in Canada are crazy. Sweet! Good luck finding one!
I love the bikes. I had a 2001 Buell M2 Cyclone and got a wild hair to have an XB but the more I think about it the less I want the issues. It's an enthusiast's bike with little support, obsolete parts and better performance from other brands. They are cool and I love em but not for me. Not this time.
I was looking at an '04 XB12R. Lowest price I've seen for a Buell I want to buy in probably 6 years. I worked all week and it sold while I was at work. I'll still take a gamble on owning one for the right price.
say what you may, I enjoy my Ulysses, 1125R and 1190SX, sorry that it's an inconvenience to source parts, but, they're still fun bikes. BTW, Buell is back in business
Any stressed member that contains liquids & is a part of the frame is prone to cracking. Very innovative bike, though. Definitely tickles the imagination. The prices for these bikes waver depending on many factors. One must only remember that something is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it.
Thanks for the comment. You're right. Innovative for sure!
Good points. I like the XB9, but the idea of parts becoming unavailable is a major concern. Some of the elements that make them unique, are what will cost you, if they break. That brake rotor, the exhaust, etc. Shame that Harley took them into the fold and then flushed the whole operation. I had high hopes for the two company model.
It's definitely a sweet bike. A couple of guys I know through work who own them purposely don't ride them because of the parts availability. One of them actually recommended I buy a Sportster over a Buell. Unless of course the Buell is $2k CAD. Then it's quite the deal. But for $3k CAD I'm lucky to even get a Sportster these days. Prices online are rising to amounts that make no sense. As for the companies working together. It's a shame. Harley could have released Buells with their new Rev Max engine platform.
A lot of the parts are interchangeable if you know what you’re doing on the xb9
Interchangeable in what regard?
You dont think with buell starting back up you wouldn't be able to find rotors etc off the newer bikes?
Possibly, however Canada is rather limited. In the USA there are far more options being an American company. I think the same would be the case if you lived in Japan and owned a Japanese bike.
I found rotors for my s2 thunderbolt on j and p cycle no problem.
...buell isn't starting back up. They are selling off 2017 stock
@@josephfriedrich9792 Thanks for the wrong information. New engines, frames and wheels. If anyone is serious about buying a true American sports bike that will literally tear the snot out of all the other SBs then you will have enough minutes on your phone to call Buell in Grand Rapids MI and get the truth.
@@mogmogman5476 anytime budd
i can buy an XB9S in a mint condition in Vietnam.
It is imported from Japan, where Buell have been loved for quite a long time.
Guy works for Harley, no bias here 😉, he’s not actually bashing what was a competitor who made better motorcycles, let’s face it if it hadn’t been for war contracts Harley would’ve went the way that Indian did (Shame the wrong one bit the dust), he’s just giving it dont but Buell buy a Harley, burls can’t be that bad since HD incorporated some of the tech, they just bought into then erased a competitor who made a better motorcycle around their own engine, what an embarrassment!!
I'm simply commenting on the state of the Canadian market as a whole. Definitely not bashing Buells at all, but when you try to sell someone on such a cool bike (no longer in production) and see the downsides to it, you lose traction. I don't believe Harley currently offers what Buell did and that's why I made this video. To highlight the bike I want yet also show the reasons why I don't own it. What you mentioned has a lot of truth to it and so I agree it's a shame that Buell went under. If prices became more reasonable in Canada or I just get lucky, you WILL see a Buell on my channel.
so are you trying to lower the price? lol you want one but dont want one
are there no aftermarket parts available?? ie ebc rotors?
Yes. In CAD the prices are too high. If I found one for the right price absolutely I'd take the plunge. However with other bikes that have far more potential in tuning and aftermarket parts for building my dream bike, it becomes less and less likely I'll add one of these bikes to my collection.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast what other bikes would make that recommendation list? I've found a couple firebolts and would love to get one as they are a sweet bike
but i've been down the rare/obsolete road before...
@@chesterfield.mcdermott From Harley a Sportster 883 would be great. Lots of potential with those in terms of custom parts and performance. From Buell, anything that is supported well through Parts Canada for me. I'd want to know certain components are readily available or be sure that Sportster parts cross over properly.
I've got an all original 07 xb9s in blue with low miles I might sell...
Where are you located?
@@ilyaberler5543 Sacramento ca
Just picked up a 2005 Buell xb9sx this week for $2500 here in Virginia. They aren't *that* rare here yet. At any given time there seems to be one or two for sale within a 100 mile radius. Prices average between $3,000 and $4,500. I got pretty lucky with mine, but it's not perfect.
I 100% get your points, because I respect your perspective. It was a no brainier purchase for me, because they have always been one of my dream bikes. To commit to owning one of these at this point, it has to be a passion.
Awesome man! That's a great price by the sound of things. A Buell Blast is around 2500 CAD. If I could find an XB9 for even 3000 CAD I'd probably snag it.
I appreciate that. I treat the comment section like a forum. It's great to discuss things openly and share information and experience. Riding a motorcycle shouldn't involve drama, just passion.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast some people are crazy with their blasts, VA here as well, someone in New Port News was selling his blast for $3500obo... more expensive than any xb12/12r I've bought... shoot, even my scg was snagged for 2k!
@@josephfriedrich9792 Keep in mind the exchange rate and now you understand what I mean by overpriced. I've seen a Blast for $3500 CAD, lol. And that's about the cheapest price ANY Buell is going to get around here.
Are engine parts actually hard to get though? I highly doubt it. The chances of catastrophic damage on maintenance vehicles is slim to none as well.
@@johntavismealing From Canadian dealerships, yes it's difficult. Americans seem to have way more options.
There is a Hero Blue XB9SX for sale on Cycle Trader for about 3500. So that thing ab overpriced is Bull, I just picked up my XB9R with 18k miles for $2700. And they made over 100,000 XB’s so not that rare either
Canadian or US dollars? Most of my viewers are from the USA however I'm in Canada. Completely different market across the border. I wish they were only $2700 here.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast US, and buy a bike in the US, the XB went into production 20 years ago so getting a 15 year old XB9 is cake. Which would allow you to “import” it if I’m correct
If you live in the US Buells are very easy to come across. Maybe not the particular trim you want, but there’s plenty floating around down here. Getting parts isn’t too bad because people have parted a good handful out and screamin eagle even sold Buell engine components as screamin eagle upgrades for the Sportster. The only thing that is expensive about these bikes are the parts, most of the people that have em charge out the ass for them, but if you can find that 1 cool dude who’s collected a bunch since they were new and just wants to help keep em alive, you’ll usually get a decent price. And working on them isn’t really hard either, just tight and a little tedious
@@caseycatob5069 I live in the most strict province in Canada, lol.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast the bike I linked is a 2005, bone stock, I think you can make it happen
Here they are dirt cheap, and have a lot of usable parts.
Are you in the USA?
@@BehindTheEnthusiast Europe, in the States they're even cheaper!! We buy them mostly for parts.
Junk? Sad tatement you put there... Ive owned mine for 10 years. Xb9sx hero blue. I travel A LOT on it and drives like no other $4000 bike can
Sad statement if it's true. Sounds like it doesn't apply to your bike, which is great! I'm still keeping my eyes open for one of my own so I can make a video about how much I love the bike, lol.
Dude, stop whining about parts and prices.... What about driving experience.. . I ve ridden Honda's , Yamaha's, HD, even Ducati but the thrill you get from riding a Buell doesn't compare...... If you only want convenience and parts...buy a BMW.
Someone loan me a Buell to review then, lol. I totally agree that the riding experience is important but reliability is just as important if you ask me. I don't want to have an awesome bike that rides great and sounds great but spends too much time on a lift. Never ridden a BMW but I have considered checking them out!
Ok, better try one (buell) out, you might change your mind on the overpriced and junk part.
@@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco I rode the 1125CR and the clutch malfunctioned on the test ride and nearly killed me, lol. So... as for overpriced XB models. Working at a dealership I know the values for trade-ins so I know the used market is ridiculously high.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast if you think Canada and the US are expensive on Buells, you shouldn't come to Europe.....late xb models are rare over here, hence hefty prices.
@@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco Oh I don't doubt that. It's all subject to market within that country. Even just US and Canada have rather major differences and we share a border. Mind you, with the US having a lot of manufacturers for Buell components there are at least "local" options.
You say these bikes "aren't worth it" but give no supporting facts. The bikes are incredible. You seem pretty jealous actually
Hassle wise when things go wrong with obsolete bikes no longer supported by a dealership? No, they're not. If you are mechanically inclined or have a good supply chain somewhere (depending where you live) you will have a very different opinion. It would be like someone from an island country buying something rare. Good luck getting parts and service. It's not unreasonable as per my location and experience. Just because it varies to yours doesn't mean it's wrong or right. It's more about awareness of potential problems than anything.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast I like to ride the bikes I enjoy most regardless of a few obstacles. They rarely break anyway
@@paulfiore7083 Nothing wrong with that. Passion for bikes knows no bounds!
Attack 😅
People always whining....If you don't like Buell's just say so.....
Complaining is one way to look at it, but it's also having a conversation about the state of the market which is straight facts. Most Americans watching my Buell videos have a completely different outlook based on their market than Canadians do like myself. Buells are cool and rare, but here they are obsolete, usually beaten up and constantly overpriced. Hell, even the Sportster market is crazy but they have more potential at least.
Just get an XB12. Better at everything than the 9
Dude, "partner" is only for gay couples. Straight men say my girl friend.
@@irocss85 Thumbs down dude. I've had many partners, all female. They are my partner in crime.😈
@@BehindTheEnthusiast i won't give up the language. It's not the same same. A partner is another dude. For the record I don't care if anyones gay. But don't mix up the lingo
@@irocss85 Not asking you to give up the language. A partner can be used for two cops in a car. Does that make them gay? No. So therefore partner isn't specifically one couple or another. A man's wife is his partner, so both terms work. The older I get the more I use partner because calling a woman my girlfriend doesn't sound right. I'm not in highschool anymore.
@@BehindTheEnthusiast we can disagree. It's ok. I don't mean any harm to you. I see your vantage point in this but I'll just disagree. Business partner is different than significant other. Woman friend. Lover. There are lots of alternate words but gays took the word parner long long ago. Before it was cool to be gay even.
Curious though are you a "cis" man? If you don't know congrats on ignoring the idiots until now.
I will not be called a "cis" man either with out major objection.
Nor will I just sit back and allow the normalization of such terms with out objection and push back.
Not trying to have a pissing match with you at all just explaining the "why" part.
@@irocss85 Absolutely man. We can disagree on some things and still respect one another. More my personal preference of label and my cousin has used it for her (now) husband. It's weird when you're older and still using that terminology. So I find older people use "partner" as a mature label. It's respectable if you ask me. For sure, but I don't believe an individual or group has rights to one specific thing. We can use it as we see fit, especially when it comes to showing respect. I'm aware of the term but I don't acknowledge it whatsoever like you. I'm in total agreement with you on that one. A man is a man. Male, boy, lad. Definitely gotta fight for certain things these days or the world will get worse for future generations. It's all good man. I respect the conversation a lot, it's very refreshing. Two dudes talkin it out as if they're just chillin by the lake fishing and drinkin beers. So we disagreed on one thing. We also agree on the question you brought up. I appreciate the conversation. 👍
Oh waaah used bikes may not have rear pegs .Thats one of several uneducated reasons to trash a particular make of motorcycle. It makes total sense you work at a dealership, You THINK you know what your talking about, no real world experience internet guy & worse you make videos. 🤬
Uneducated? Check yourself before you wreck yourself mr keyboard warrior. I know more than what I say in videos for entertainment. Your comments and views just make the video gain traction. If I actually misspoke or made a legit mistake I own up to it. And as someone who is a purist, I like stock bikes and even cars when I'm buying them. It's most definitely a valid reason for not wanting to buy something. In no way am I bashing the make or model, just pointing out what they've become in the used market here in Canada.