I was in Paris last May & had lunch there ( following a recommendation from Les Frenchies). As it wasn’t very warm I had the classic French onion soup followed by a delicious mushroom risotto & a glass of a lovely white wine ( can’t remember which one)! I finished with coffee. The food, service & ambience was divine. I even practised my terrible French. Definitely worth visiting.
Le Grand Véfour ! Check it out online, it's Paris's most beautiful restaurant, 2 or 3 Michelin stars. La Tour d'Argent in the 5th arrondissement, facing the Seine, is also an extraordinary restaurant, a monument ! Louis XIV, the Sun King, ate there !
I’ve never put a restaurant on a list to visit. I’m a spontaneous diner, in cities with great food everywhere. Of course, I’ve heard of Le Procope, but it’s not what I go for. Especially, since I travel on my own. So, a restaurant needing a reservation, isn’t my thing. But, it’s fun to try something different.
I had dinner there. I loved the history and seeing the historic treasures. The food was fine but I’ve had better. Did you learn the story that M. Guillotine perfected his instrument of death in the passage at the back of the restaurant?
Have eaten there twice and both times were wonderful! Such a beautiful environment, great staff, great food -- a fabulous experience! Happy you enjoyed it also.
Well, you two are inspiring ! Wonderful looking restaurant and obviously the food is glorious. Thank you for taking the time to share this experience with the rest of us, who are NOT in Paris at the moment, but planning to be in the future.....
Great review! It’s nice to hear that it’s popular, for a very good reason. These places do exist. I haven’t been there yet, but now I’ll think about it. This is also a good example of why you should consider your waiter in France, as a “dinning consultant”. If you treat them this way, even in a very casual restaurant, they appreciate so much, and you’ll usually be treated even better.
Your review inspired me to add this restaurant to my list for my upcoming trip to Paris. Thank you for a great vlog and sharing your experience at Le Procope.
I celebrated my 30th birthday at Le Procope on my very first trip to Paris (in 1990) and loved it! It had all the classic French charm I was looking for, and the food was delicious. I'm pleased to see it is still there after 34 years and glad you enjoyed your birthday dinner.
beautiful tour of 'Le Procope Restaurant" Happy 60 what a great way to celebrate by visiting Le Procope wow 5:44 😋😋 thanks for introducing us to this excellent restaurant ! LIKE
👏👏👏 So nice that the experience was wonderful! Great review and I have been meaning to tell you your video quality is very nice! My compliments to you 👍👍 Thanks again, I love following you both. Best blessings and safe travels to you both!
Love the music! St. Germain looks lovely! Close quarters in dining? Love your hair KJ! It looks like in the roaring 20's to me, full of life! 1686? Wow! I liked the front and the back of Le Procope. The inside is a little formal for me. I'm so glad that you did a video so that we could hear that things were improving for you both. What a treat! Nice head waiter! Appetizers? Wowee! And your non-alcoholic drink looked beautiful! Tony's dessert with 3 dips of ice cream, yum! A nice guy to recommend dishes. What a great choice for KJ's birthday! KJ-Your blouse doesn't look like the t-shirt that the airport gave you.😀 Ah! The clarinet player! And lastly, I haven't heard about your luggage🧳 Debby in Kansas
I have been at guy savoy quai de conti in Paris. An amazing experience to never forget. It's ways better than Jules Verne and more affordable pricing. But it's for occasional special dinner Myself i prefer more a cute little place that's is convenient same time offering delicious food for daily lunch and dining. There's a little gem in Montmartre called la vache et le cuisinier that is very good to try and feel like a family, and tadam (Michelin grade) in the13 arrondissement, the area near jardin des plantes.
Oh yes- beef cheeks are delicious. There’s a tapas bar near me and I always order them when I go. All of that food looked so delicious. Those profiteroles were enormous!
Thank you kj and Tony for this awesome video. I am definitely going to check out that restaurant on my visit to Paris in September. I can’t wait to go. Everything looked great. The food, the atmosphere was wonderful. ❤ I love all of your Paris videos, they are so informative and great.
Hi again for today, 🌴🌞 The oldest restaurant in France is “La Couronne” (The Crowd) in Rouen (Normandy), founded in 1345. Attested by the payment of an annuity in 1345, it’s considered the oldest inn/restaurant in France under the reign of Philippe VI of Valois. Note: Other establishments, such as “La Tour d’Argent” (1582) and the “Grand Véfour” (1784), both located in Paris, are ancient and prestigious; however, they aren’t as old as “La Couronne.” So, “Le Procope” isn't the oldest restaurant in Paris but the second. Have a pleasant day,
"Attested"? Here's what the restaurant claims: "It all began in 1345... Where we find mentioned, on parchment, the trace of the rents paid by Raoul Leprevost, the Master of La Couronne: two sols for the "Pitancière" of the Prioress of Saint-Lô (14th and 15th) and 60 sols for the Community of the Daughters of God (1345-1610)." Does it provide a source for this claim? A copy of the "parchment" that supposedly exists? It does not. The first mention I see of Raoul Leprevost is from... 1941. And if this restaurant had existed since the fourteenth century (as a tavern, inn, cabaret, traiteur, or whatever), one would expect to see references to it all through the centuries. Good luck finding them.
@@LetsChillPage "Y sont reproduits huit parchemins où M. Lamy retrouve les traces de son existence. À son grand regret, il n'y a pas de document de 1345, mais un résumé, inséré dans le cartulaire des Filles-Dieu de 1414" [Patrimoine Normande, Rouen - La Couronne : « plus vieille auberge de France » Vendredi 11 Janvier 2013] Q(The latter says NOTHING about a tavern, just a "house".) The citations in the French Wikipedia are all from RECENT publications; this is the kind of thing that has to be documented by period references. The English entry has very few citations, all from modern sources. The only citations I find on the Web are modern reiterations of the restaurant's claims. Do you have ANY references from the period itself, or over subsequent centuries? Not modern sources which claim these exist; actual references from the fourteenth, fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth or nineteenth centuries? (Trick question - I know you don't.) The restaurant's own site also "quotes" Cornelius Vanderbilt, without actually naming the source. The text cited cannot be found on Google Books or archive.org.
@@LetsChillPage [What the hell? I posted a response and it disappeared - if that happens again, I'll post a separate response.] The links on both the English and French Wikipedia pages are to MODERN sources, not a one to anything before the twentieth century. One of the sources linked on the French site says specifically that there is NO document surviving from 1345; the later summary it cites does not mention a tavern. As for looking around the Web, all I find is reiterations of the restaurant's own claims; not a single period reference. If you can provide a single reference from the period (not cited by the restaurant, but specifically cited to a document), I'd be glad to see it.
Now THAT'S a Parisian restaurant of note. I can tell the food is delicious, and it makes me want to start driving to Paris right away! Haha. I haven't been there before so it sounds like a perfect 76th birthday for me next month.
Thank you for sharing. I am glad you listened to the server and that you had a great experience (especially after Jules Verne--that I will avoid because I don't drink alcohol). The oldest restaurant in France is in Rouen--I was trying to imagine what its original cassoulet would be like. I think Le Procope is considered the oldest in Paris for having been established in the city itself (Le Tour d'Argent is older but started outside the city limits). I always get a balanced conclusion from your two different approaches: heartfelt (sensibilite) and reasoned (objectif). Bonne journee!
The oldest restaurant in continuous operation as a restaurant in France is, indeed, La Couronne located on place du Vieux Marché à Rouen, where Joan of Arc was executed in 1431. It opened in 1345. so it had already been around for 86 years at that time. Another candidate for the title, as mentioned in a comment below, is "L'Hostellerie de la Croix d'Or." Also as noted, the building dates from 1270 but there is doubt that it opened as a restaurant until 1575. In my student days, a lifetime ago, I dined at both the Procope and La Couronne. My memories are not detailed, but I remember enjoying both. (Since then, La Couronne lost its one Michelin star a long time ago.)
My family and I are traveling to Paris in October. We will definitely make Procope a must do. One correction to your feedback…I believe Tony’s dessert was profiteroles, not crème brûlée. Thanks for your review.
Glad to hear you had a good experience there. I did not. I had so been looking forward to going, but the night in question I got caught in traffic. I called to say I was running a few minutes late. I was told I would still be seated but would have to wait b/c they would give my original table away. As a single traveler, I would have been fine at the bar. As it happened, I arrived a few minutes EARLY. I approached the maitre'd and explained the situation. He shut me down, told me I'd canceled and said there were no tables available as they were booked solid! This, despite the restaurant being largely empty. As a New Yorker I'm always double prepared. I had printed the reservation before leaving home. I pulled it out of my bag and offered it. The maitre'd literally tore it into 100 pieces and threw it to the ground before stamping his foot! (It was GREAT French theatre) He then directed a waiter to seat me in the "American" section, where the sole table waiter spoke excellent English, robbing me of the chance to use my French. I found the service good, the meal mediocre and the ambiance a bit dull. I sat next to a terrific couple from the Carolinas who were staying at the George V. I asked how they felt about their meal, and they suggested the same. A nephew, living in Paris at the time, said he went there a lot for lunch and found it less stuffy. Oh well, maybe next time I should try Ralph's?
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience. Hopefully this is not the norm, in terms of the way they treat Americans! I can't imagine it is because every time we have been there we have had a great experience.
What an elegant and in a way majestic restaurant everything looks so perfect I love the elegance of the decor the plates ! I collect historic table ware from vintage stores this plates are so beautiful and I noticed in the menus they have vegetarian and vegan options (I’m vegetarian) Truly enjoyed the video Thanks ! 🤩😊
We loved the plates too. We even asked if we could buy one and they said "no" because so many people have asked. I think that means they are in demand and would do well to open a gift shop.
Thé foie de veau is delicious there. Went back in the early 1990s with my family when my parents invited my future in laws for a dinner. That was an « œuf molee » you had with the asparagus. Délicieuse
I immediately knew he didn’t have creme😢 brûlée……in English cream buffs filled with vanilla ice cream and topped with chocolate sauce is something my mom made often. In French, profiterole or chou à la crème can be filled with a typically sweet and moist filling of whipped cream, custard, pastry cream, or ice cream. Yours came exactly as my mom made it.
I didn't realize until I was editing it and I added an annotation to indicate that we realized the mistake. Tony had creme brulee the night before. It was indeed the profiteroles.
Merci beaucoup! I had this place confused with Le Grand Vefour in the Palais Royal. Have y'all dined there? I can't remember. I'm glad that your cheek of beef was not served to you with the whole head of the calf on a plate. That is the preparation at some establishments.
@@dls300 One needs to be sure what part of the animal and what cut (their meat cuts differ from those in the US) one is getting. The French love organ meats. Veau is veal but tete de veau is the head of the veal. Andouille is not the same as andouillette. T
The oldest restaurant in France is claimed to be "L'Hostellerie de la Croix d'Or" opened in 1270 in the Seine-et-Marne town of Provins. Some people say that the building was built in 1270 but that the auberge only opened in 1575. The Procope would be 4 centuries newer or at list one century...
🍎KJ and Tony, Fabulous, cloudy, very windy day, but it's Happy Friday! The good first. The dining on your new vlog. The prices are very reasonable for such a nice restaurant and the waiter and the waitress was not drinking the night before to be mean and rude when serving people. People that drink seven nights a week, even if it's wine that adds up to a shot or two of vodka or whiskey, are very aggressive and mean people. Not to mention if they don't like their job, they don't care. The dessert is our most favorite thing seven days a week either for breakfast or lunch, so we can get rid of the sugar before we go to sleep at night and sleep like a baby. If you have sugar in the evening, your body will not get rid of it before you go to sleep. That's why people snore, because the sugar comes up the esophagus when you're sleeping and causes the snoring sound, because you're not awake to get rid of the sugar. Even children are having the same problem with snoring because of having sugar too late in the day. A lot of people don't think of the consequences of too much sugar and salt a couple hours before you go to sleep. Now the bad and the ugly! About your dinner entree. We don't eat any part of the cow, the pig, the goat or the sheep, deer, horses! Especially their cheeks, butt, feet and ribs! Especially since they have to be dead before you eat them! Animals don't eat humans even the lion will try to hurt you if he can, but they won't eat human flesh. So why in the name of God my grandmother would say, should we eat any part of a dead animal? It's quite nauseating, not to mention how inhumane people will slaughter them to eat them because they think they have to have meat as they call it. You don't have to have meat to get full. Humans don't think they're eating the flesh of the animal because it has a name which is meat, pork, ribs, tenderloin, steak and these animals are all vegetarian, not to mention the dinosaurs that lived for hundreds of years on only vegetation. Also, seafood if the most smelly flesh to consume and is full of more fat than animals. But people are brainwashed to think that they have to have dead animals to be full. What is even more disgusting is to eat it rare with the blood showing. Humans had to eat the animals because there wasn't enough or they didn't know how to grow and provide different fruits and vegetables, so they had to depend on dead animals to get full in their stomach. Today in our modern age, they're are hundreds of different varieties of fruits and vegetables and grains, especially to be more than full and satisfied that you don't need to eat dead animals. The human colon is around 5 to 6 feet long. If humans keep eating more of the flesh of the animals, then their colon gets backed up and causes all kinds of colon concerns, which as you know can become very serious. I don't like the name cancer because if we stop eating the animals, then we don't have to use the dirty name cancer. I know as a fact when we used to eat meat 15 years ago, I lost 80 pounds especially in the neck, hips, thighs and botton where women store the fat. For men they need a new wardrobe because they loose all their belly fat. Also, when I go to the bathroom, there's no smell anymore because I don't have the dead animal in my colon! I also noticed I don't have to use deodorant, because that's where the smell comes out from your arm pits from carrying around the dead animal in your colon! We also don't eat anything that flies, like chickens, ducks, roosters, quail, oh let's not forget the turkey! So now you know why true vegetarians don't eat dead animals. Got to go! Happy Watermelon Summer!🌴🍉
You neglected to mention the cruelty for which France is famous among other cruelties, the gavage of geese to make Foie Gras. Remember they first cram the feed down the gooses's throat and then let the liver rot and make it into foie gras. I gave it up over 30 years ago.
@@kjandtonylovefrance 🍎KJ and Tony, Fantastic, lazy rainy hot chocolate day in our part of the world! Going cold turkey for any obsession if that's what it takes for the better and the best, so you don't have to go visit the doctor and for him or her to say take this prescription and hurrying to write it so they can go to the other patient next door, then so be it if you want to be double healthy. We must tell you we met a little boy who was 7 years old a few years ago. As we were talking to the little boy, his grandmother said he's also a vegetarian. We were quite impressed at his age he figured out I am not going to eat that cow out there, or that pig, or the chicken, etc. We had to go to the grocery store to get them some cash as it was a tire shop. At the time it was a small business and they only accepted cash. So we thought we would surprise the little boy by bringing him back four different kinds of fruits, so we did just that and when he saw the fruits when we came back with the cash, his eyes literally lit up as if though we were giving him candy! We also met a girl in her 20's. We were talking about food in her little antique shop and when we started talking about meat as it's called, she said to us, I don't eat any animals! That's when we decided, Oh My God! We are eating the animals! So anyone who wants to go vegetarian, it's a myth that vegetarians are depriving themselves of food. It's just the opposite because everything they eat is higher in grains, a lot more fruits, a lot more vegetables, baked potatoes instead of french fries and even pasta with different sauces, but made with high grain flour not bleached white flour. Definitely no white bleached flour that they use in every pastry in France, Italy, America, etc. It's very very addictive, it's the same principle as drugs. We don't use bleached flour or any form of sugar, only sometimes a sprinkle of coconut sugar because it has the least glycemic index and so doesn't spike your blood sugar. We don't have any kind of syrups in the house because it goes in the blood and the veins accept the syrup and too much sugar as in invasion and that's why millions of people have some kind of issues with their health because of what they put into their mouth. We know because we adore pastries and baked goods, but we don't buy them because what is in it. Sugar, bleached flour, oils and eggs that we can't stand smell of, so we substitute our sugar for any fruit that's overripe to make pastries and that is our sugar in the pastry. Because you're using overripe fruits, you don't need any eggs because you're getting the moisture in the fruit to substitute the eggs in the pastry. If the batter for whatever you're making such as muffins, cakes, fruit loafs, if the batter is too thick, then you want to add freshly squeezed orange juice and water. As far as cheeses that's abundant in Europe, of course they taste good because it's loaded with too much salt and so will spike your blood pressure. Which means you have to make your own cheese. Do we eat out? The answer is a big NO! Because of what they put into the food. Even preservatives that are packaged so it can last longer. So eating healthy, healthy, healthy is a complete different choice of lifestyle that you choose what you're going to digest. It also requires self disapline like martial arts. Eating late at night is the worst thing anyone in the world can do because of the sugar and the salt in the food, and so causes one to have a hard time falling asleep, not to mention when you're sleeping the sugar and salt goes into the blood and so the brain thinks you're awake which causes nightmares and snoring. I don't have to tell you, snoring leads to terrible heart problems that even requires surgery. If we have to go out to eat, it's buffet style once a year so we can eat the fruits and vegetables and if the food is too salty, we try another one that's not salty. So it's all about food choices that will determine what size we are and most of all, how healthy we are. We rather have health more than whining and dining! Got to go! Ciao! 🌴
First...Happy "60" Birthday! Can't think of a better city to celebrate your special day. Everything looked delicious tho name alone would not appeal to me....kinda have a 'you keep your cheek, I'll keep mine' axiom in life. 😁 Stay well. Stay happy. Stay in France! 😅😅😅😅
Yes, it's true. Apparently there was a fire in the kitchen and they are closed while the damage is being repaired. I believe they are scheduled to open again in December. It was disappointing because we had reservations for this month and they were canceled.
The current incarnation of Procope was opened in 1957, long after the original closed in the late nineteenth century. A number of different places occupied the space in the intervening years. So, no, it's not the oldest restaurant in Paris. Not least because restaurants did not exist when the cafe (which it was for decades) opened. It is, quite simply, a modern restaurant with a lot of eighteenth century trimmings that uses a name from the past (and this year actually opened a coffee/tea room, so it can at least claim it's a cafe. After decades...)
I'm so confused ... did I not just see a video where you described your visit to Le Procope? It certainly was different than your presentation and description here in this video. Did you not say the matre de was not that hospitable? Is there a video missing perhaps? Was your luggage ever delivered to you? Hope so. 💞
We ate in Le Procope last year and had a similar experience. Excellent food, excellent service, and while not cheap, the bill was lower than I had expected. We also ate in the somewhat lower-priced 58 Tour Eiffel in the Eiffel Tower and while I preferred Le Procope, it was not bad, but I think the Eiffel Tower restaurants are likely overrated. I did this video there awhile back... th-cam.com/video/SKTs0SyjQzM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cgNcDyR3p1Bx9lz7
Have you ever been to Le Procope? What is your favorite restaurant in Paris?
I was in Paris last May & had lunch there ( following a recommendation from Les Frenchies). As it wasn’t very warm I had the classic French onion soup followed by a delicious mushroom risotto & a glass of a lovely white wine ( can’t remember which one)! I finished with coffee. The food, service & ambience was divine. I even practised my terrible French. Definitely worth visiting.
Le Grand Véfour ! Check it out online, it's Paris's most beautiful restaurant, 2 or 3 Michelin stars. La Tour d'Argent in the 5th arrondissement, facing the Seine, is also an extraordinary restaurant, a monument ! Louis XIV, the Sun King, ate there !
I’ve never put a restaurant on a list to visit. I’m a spontaneous diner, in cities with great food everywhere. Of course, I’ve heard of Le Procope, but it’s not what I go for. Especially, since I travel on my own. So, a restaurant needing a reservation, isn’t my thing. But, it’s fun to try something different.
I had dinner there. I loved the history and seeing the historic treasures. The food was fine but I’ve had better. Did you learn the story that M. Guillotine perfected his instrument of death in the passage at the back of the restaurant?
I enjoy your videos of Paris giving explanations of the areas or restaurants you are visiting. Have a wonderful time.
Thank you! Glad you are enjoying the videos ❤️
Eloquent and helpful commentary - thank you
Have eaten there twice and both times were wonderful! Such a beautiful environment, great staff, great food -- a fabulous experience! Happy you enjoyed it also.
So good!
Well, you two are inspiring ! Wonderful looking restaurant and obviously the food is glorious. Thank you for taking the time to share this experience with the rest of us, who are NOT in Paris at the moment, but planning to be in the future.....
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review! It’s nice to hear that it’s popular, for a very good reason. These places do exist. I haven’t been there yet, but now I’ll think about it. This is also a good example of why you should consider your waiter in France, as a “dinning consultant”. If you treat them this way, even in a very casual restaurant, they appreciate so much, and you’ll usually be treated even better.
Your review inspired me to add this restaurant to my list for my upcoming trip to Paris. Thank you for a great vlog and sharing your experience at Le Procope.
Great! We are going on our upcoming return trip as well. We are confident you will enjoy!!
I celebrated my 30th birthday at Le Procope on my very first trip to Paris (in 1990) and loved it! It had all the classic French charm I was looking for, and the food was delicious. I'm pleased to see it is still there after 34 years and glad you enjoyed your birthday dinner.
Great place for a birthday celebration or any other special occasion!!
beautiful tour of 'Le Procope Restaurant"
Happy 60 what a great way to celebrate by visiting Le Procope
wow 5:44 😋😋
thanks for introducing us to this excellent restaurant !
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You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!!
Added to the list! Prices seamed very reasonable for Paris.
There's a great film called "Delicieux", about the fist restaurant in France, maybe first anywhere? Restaurants weren't a thing back then.
Looks like a wonderful birthday! Bon appetit! Happy 60th, KJ! Haven’t been there but will go now!
Thanks so much!
My husband and I had a lovely dinner there 2 years ago. It was magical at night.
So good to see you guys again!
Bianca ici. Magnifique merci beaucoup encore! Jusqu'à la prochaine fois…
👏👏👏 So nice that the experience was wonderful! Great review and I have been meaning to tell you your video quality is very nice! My compliments to you 👍👍
Thanks again, I love following you both. Best blessings and safe travels to you both!
Thank you so much!!
Love the music! St. Germain looks lovely! Close quarters in dining? Love your hair KJ! It looks like in the roaring 20's to me, full of life! 1686? Wow! I liked the front and the back of Le Procope. The inside is a little formal for me. I'm so glad that you did a video so that we could hear that things were improving for you both. What a treat! Nice head waiter! Appetizers? Wowee! And your non-alcoholic drink looked beautiful! Tony's dessert with 3 dips of ice cream, yum! A nice guy to recommend dishes. What a great choice for KJ's birthday! KJ-Your blouse doesn't look like the t-shirt that the airport gave you.😀 Ah! The clarinet player! And lastly, I haven't heard about your luggage🧳 Debby in Kansas
We got the luggage!!!
I watched this again. I love that area!
I have been at guy savoy quai de conti in Paris. An amazing experience to never forget. It's ways better than Jules Verne and more affordable pricing. But it's for occasional special dinner Myself i prefer more a cute little place that's is convenient same time offering delicious food for daily lunch and dining. There's a little gem in Montmartre called la vache et le cuisinier that is very good to try and feel like a family, and tadam (Michelin grade) in the13 arrondissement, the area near jardin des plantes.
Thanks for the suggestions. We love Jardin des Plantes ❤️
Hi KJ and Tony, the oldest restaurant in Paris is " La Tour d'Argent ", it opened in 1582 ! 😉
Thank you for the info!!
I am so glad you two had a good experience at this restaurant. Thank you for sharing and Happy 60th KJ!
Thank you, Beverly!
Wow beautiful restaurant. Food looks delicious.
It was!
Haven’t been, but will go! We’re in France now and will hit Paris again this trip in a couple of weeks. Thank you for this ‘find’ and review!
Oh yes- beef cheeks are delicious. There’s a tapas bar near me and I always order them when I go. All of that food looked so delicious. Those profiteroles were enormous!
Thank you kj and Tony for this awesome video. I am definitely going to check out that restaurant on my visit to Paris in September. I can’t wait to go. Everything looked great. The food, the atmosphere was wonderful. ❤ I love all of your Paris videos, they are so informative and great.
You're welcome. We"re confident, you'll love it ❤️
Quick burger on the Champs Elysees. Great food and people watching! 😊
Thanks for the tip!
I believe the Tour d’Argent is older than this restaurant ❣️🥰💕
Non. C’est le Procop.
Hi again for today, 🌴🌞
The oldest restaurant in France is “La Couronne” (The Crowd) in Rouen (Normandy), founded in 1345. Attested by the payment of an annuity in 1345, it’s considered the oldest inn/restaurant in France under the reign of Philippe VI of Valois.
Note: Other establishments, such as “La Tour d’Argent” (1582) and the “Grand Véfour” (1784), both located in Paris, are ancient and prestigious; however, they aren’t as old as “La Couronne.” So, “Le Procope” isn't the oldest restaurant in Paris but the second.
Have a pleasant day,
Thanks for sharing!!
"Attested"? Here's what the restaurant claims: "It all began in 1345... Where we find mentioned, on parchment, the trace of the rents paid by Raoul Leprevost, the Master of La Couronne: two sols for the "Pitancière" of the Prioress of Saint-Lô (14th and 15th) and 60 sols for the Community of the Daughters of God (1345-1610)." Does it provide a source for this claim? A copy of the "parchment" that supposedly exists?
It does not.
The first mention I see of Raoul Leprevost is from... 1941. And if this restaurant had existed since the fourteenth century (as a tavern, inn, cabaret, traiteur, or whatever), one would expect to see references to it all through the centuries.
Good luck finding them.
@@jimchevallier528 All references are on Wikipedia.
Then, a plethora of links on the net attest to its antiquity.
@@LetsChillPage "Y sont reproduits huit parchemins où M. Lamy retrouve les traces de son existence. À son grand regret, il n'y a pas de document de 1345, mais un résumé, inséré dans le cartulaire des Filles-Dieu de 1414" [Patrimoine Normande, Rouen - La Couronne : « plus vieille auberge de France »
Vendredi 11 Janvier 2013] Q(The latter says NOTHING about a tavern, just a "house".)
The citations in the French Wikipedia are all from RECENT publications; this is the kind of thing that has to be documented by period references. The English entry has very few citations, all from modern sources.
The only citations I find on the Web are modern reiterations of the restaurant's claims.
Do you have ANY references from the period itself, or over subsequent centuries? Not modern sources which claim these exist; actual references from the fourteenth, fifteenth, sixteenth, seventeenth, eighteenth or nineteenth centuries? (Trick question - I know you don't.)
The restaurant's own site also "quotes" Cornelius Vanderbilt, without actually naming the source. The text cited cannot be found on Google Books or archive.org.
@@LetsChillPage [What the hell? I posted a response and it disappeared - if that happens again, I'll post a separate response.]
The links on both the English and French Wikipedia pages are to MODERN sources, not a one to anything before the twentieth century. One of the sources linked on the French site says specifically that there is NO document surviving from 1345; the later summary it cites does not mention a tavern.
As for looking around the Web, all I find is reiterations of the restaurant's own claims; not a single period reference. If you can provide a single reference from the period (not cited by the restaurant, but specifically cited to a document), I'd be glad to see it.
No not in the main restaurant, but hope to try it. It looks lovely and the food makes my mouth water.
Love Le Procope!
Now THAT'S a Parisian restaurant of note. I can tell the food is delicious, and it makes me want to start driving to Paris right away! Haha. I haven't been there before so it sounds like a perfect 76th birthday for me next month.
Yes! It would be a great way to celebrate your 76th!! Happy early birthday ❤️
@@kjandtonylovefrance Thank you! 😊💛
Thank you for sharing. I am glad you listened to the server and that you had a great experience (especially after Jules Verne--that I will avoid because I don't drink alcohol). The oldest restaurant in France is in Rouen--I was trying to imagine what its original cassoulet would be like. I think Le Procope is considered the oldest in Paris for having been established in the city itself (Le Tour d'Argent is older but started outside the city limits). I always get a balanced conclusion from your two different approaches: heartfelt (sensibilite) and reasoned (objectif). Bonne journee!
Merci beaucoup!
The oldest restaurant in continuous operation as a restaurant in France is, indeed, La Couronne located on place du Vieux Marché à Rouen, where Joan of Arc was executed in 1431. It opened in 1345. so it had already been around for 86 years at that time.
Another candidate for the title, as mentioned in a comment below, is "L'Hostellerie de la Croix d'Or." Also as noted, the building dates from 1270 but there is doubt that it opened as a restaurant until 1575.
In my student days, a lifetime ago, I dined at both the Procope and La Couronne. My memories are not detailed, but I remember enjoying both. (Since then, La Couronne lost its one Michelin star a long time ago.)
How was it price wise compared to the Jules Verne experience? It certainly looks a lot less pretentious and I would love to try it whilst in Paris.
Much, much less expensive than Jules Verne!
I really enjoy your videos, Thank you.
Glad you like them!
We celebrated my 70th birthday there October 2023 and everything and everyone was amazing.🎉
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My family and I are traveling to Paris in October. We will definitely make Procope a must do. One correction to your feedback…I believe Tony’s dessert was profiteroles, not crème brûlée. Thanks for your review.
Yes, I added an annotation that should indicate we realized the error. Tony had the creme brulee the night before.
Glad to hear you had a good experience there. I did not. I had so been looking forward to going, but the night in question I got caught in traffic. I called to say I was running a few minutes late. I was told I would still be seated but would have to wait b/c they would give my original table away. As a single traveler, I would have been fine at the bar. As it happened, I arrived a few minutes EARLY. I approached the maitre'd and explained the situation. He shut me down, told me I'd canceled and said there were no tables available as they were booked solid! This, despite the restaurant being largely empty. As a New Yorker I'm always double prepared. I had printed the reservation before leaving home. I pulled it out of my bag and offered it. The maitre'd literally tore it into 100 pieces and threw it to the ground before stamping his foot! (It was GREAT French theatre) He then directed a waiter to seat me in the "American" section, where the sole table waiter spoke excellent English, robbing me of the chance to use my French. I found the service good, the meal mediocre and the ambiance a bit dull. I sat next to a terrific couple from the Carolinas who were staying at the George V. I asked how they felt about their meal, and they suggested the same. A nephew, living in Paris at the time, said he went there a lot for lunch and found it less stuffy. Oh well, maybe next time I should try Ralph's?
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience. Hopefully this is not the norm, in terms of the way they treat Americans! I can't imagine it is because every time we have been there we have had a great experience.
What an elegant and in a way majestic restaurant everything looks so perfect I love the elegance of the decor the plates ! I collect historic table ware from vintage stores this plates are so beautiful and I noticed in the menus they have vegetarian and vegan options (I’m vegetarian) Truly enjoyed the video Thanks ! 🤩😊
We loved the plates too. We even asked if we could buy one and they said "no" because so many people have asked. I think that means they are in demand and would do well to open a gift shop.
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Thé foie de veau is delicious there. Went back in the early 1990s with my family when my parents invited my future in laws for a dinner. That was an « œuf molee » you had with the asparagus. Délicieuse
Thank you! Yes, it was the best appetizer we've ever had!
I immediately knew he didn’t have creme😢 brûlée……in English cream buffs filled with vanilla ice cream and topped with chocolate sauce is something my mom made often. In French, profiterole or chou à la crème can be filled with a typically sweet and moist filling of whipped cream, custard, pastry cream, or ice cream. Yours came exactly as my mom made it.
I didn't realize until I was editing it and I added an annotation to indicate that we realized the mistake. Tony had creme brulee the night before. It was indeed the profiteroles.
Merci beaucoup! I had this place confused with Le Grand Vefour in the Palais Royal. Have y'all dined there? I can't remember. I'm glad that your cheek of beef was not served to you with the whole head of the calf on a plate. That is the preparation at some establishments.
Oh no, no, no.
@@dls300 One needs to be sure what part of the animal and what cut (their meat cuts differ from those in the US) one is getting. The French love organ meats. Veau is veal but tete de veau is the head of the veal. Andouille is not the same as andouillette. T
The oldest restaurant in France is claimed to be "L'Hostellerie de la Croix d'Or" opened in 1270 in the Seine-et-Marne town of Provins.
Some people say that the building was built in 1270 but that the auberge only opened in 1575.
The Procope would be 4 centuries newer or at list one century...
Thank you for the info! We love french history.
Now I am hungry.😊
Darlings, no wine 🍷?? You are in France! ❤ from a vin lover from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Thank you.
Dir you get suitcases arrive???
Yes!!
Looks like a far better culinary experience than that of Jules Vernes.
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I’m glad they showed a delicious vegan option on the menu for those of us who are animal lovers. 🐾💕🌿
🍎KJ and Tony,
Fabulous, cloudy, very windy day, but it's Happy Friday!
The good first. The dining on your new vlog. The prices are very reasonable for such a nice restaurant and the waiter and the waitress was not drinking the night before to be mean and rude when serving people. People that drink seven nights a week, even if it's wine that adds up to a shot or two of vodka or whiskey, are very aggressive and mean people. Not to mention if they don't like their job, they don't care. The dessert is our most favorite thing seven days a week either for breakfast or lunch, so we can get rid of the sugar before we go to sleep at night and sleep like a baby. If you have sugar in the evening, your body will not get rid of it before you go to sleep. That's why people snore, because the sugar comes up the esophagus when you're sleeping and causes the snoring sound, because you're not awake to get rid of the sugar. Even children are having the same problem with snoring because of having sugar too late in the day. A lot of people don't think of the consequences of too much sugar and salt a couple hours before you go to sleep.
Now the bad and the ugly! About your dinner entree. We don't eat any part of the cow, the pig, the goat or the sheep, deer, horses! Especially their cheeks, butt, feet and ribs! Especially since they have to be dead before you eat them! Animals don't eat humans even the lion will try to hurt you if he can, but they won't eat human flesh. So why in the name of God my grandmother would say, should we eat any part of a dead animal? It's quite nauseating, not to mention how inhumane people will slaughter them to eat them because they think they have to have meat as they call it. You don't have to have meat to get full. Humans don't think they're eating the flesh of the animal because it has a name which is meat, pork, ribs, tenderloin, steak and these animals are all vegetarian, not to mention the dinosaurs that lived for hundreds of years on only vegetation. Also, seafood if the most smelly flesh to consume and is full of more fat than animals. But people are brainwashed to think that they have to have dead animals to be full. What is even more disgusting is to eat it rare with the blood showing. Humans had to eat the animals because there wasn't enough or they didn't know how to grow and provide different fruits and vegetables, so they had to depend on dead animals to get full in their stomach. Today in our modern age, they're are hundreds of different varieties of fruits and vegetables and grains, especially to be more than full and satisfied that you don't need to eat dead animals. The human colon is around 5 to 6 feet long. If humans keep eating more of the flesh of the animals, then their colon gets backed up and causes all kinds of colon concerns, which as you know can become very serious. I don't like the name cancer because if we stop eating the animals, then we don't have to use the dirty name cancer. I know as a fact when we used to eat meat 15 years ago, I lost 80 pounds especially in the neck, hips, thighs and botton where women store the fat. For men they need a new wardrobe because they loose all their belly fat. Also, when I go to the bathroom, there's no smell anymore because I don't have the dead animal in my colon! I also noticed I don't have to use deodorant, because that's where the smell comes out from your arm pits from carrying around the dead animal in your colon! We also don't eat anything that flies, like chickens, ducks, roosters, quail, oh let's not forget the turkey! So now you know why true vegetarians don't eat dead animals.
Got to go!
Happy Watermelon Summer!🌴🍉
Thank you for all this great information. I want to eat that way! What is the best way to start? Cold turkey? No meat?
You neglected to mention the cruelty for which France is famous among other cruelties, the gavage of geese to make Foie Gras. Remember they first cram the feed down the gooses's throat and then let the liver rot and make it into foie gras. I gave it up over 30 years ago.
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🍎KJ and Tony,
Fantastic, lazy rainy hot chocolate day in our part of the world!
Going cold turkey for any obsession if that's what it takes for the better and the best, so you don't have to go visit the doctor and for him or her to say take this prescription and hurrying to write it so they can go to the other patient next door, then so be it if you want to be double healthy. We must tell you we met a little boy who was 7 years old a few years ago. As we were talking to the little boy, his grandmother said he's also a vegetarian. We were quite impressed at his age he figured out I am not going to eat that cow out there, or that pig, or the chicken, etc. We had to go to the grocery store to get them some cash as it was a tire shop. At the time it was a small business and they only accepted cash. So we thought we would surprise the little boy by bringing him back four different kinds of fruits, so we did just that and when he saw the fruits when we came back with the cash, his eyes literally lit up as if though we were giving him candy! We also met a girl in her 20's. We were talking about food in her little antique shop and when we started talking about meat as it's called, she said to us, I don't eat any animals! That's when we decided, Oh My God! We are eating the animals! So anyone who wants to go vegetarian, it's a myth that vegetarians are depriving themselves of food. It's just the opposite because everything they eat is higher in grains, a lot more fruits, a lot more vegetables, baked potatoes instead of french fries and even pasta with different sauces, but made with high grain flour not bleached white flour. Definitely no white bleached flour that they use in every pastry in France, Italy, America, etc. It's very very addictive, it's the same principle as drugs. We don't use bleached flour or any form of sugar, only sometimes a sprinkle of coconut sugar because it has the least glycemic index and so doesn't spike your blood sugar. We don't have any kind of syrups in the house because it goes in the blood and the veins accept the syrup and too much sugar as in invasion and that's why millions of people have some kind of issues with their health because of what they put into their mouth. We know because we adore pastries and baked goods, but we don't buy them because what is in it. Sugar, bleached flour, oils and eggs that we can't stand smell of, so we substitute our sugar for any fruit that's overripe to make pastries and that is our sugar in the pastry. Because you're using overripe fruits, you don't need any eggs because you're getting the moisture in the fruit to substitute the eggs in the pastry. If the batter for whatever you're making such as muffins, cakes, fruit loafs, if the batter is too thick, then you want to add freshly squeezed orange juice and water. As far as cheeses that's abundant in Europe, of course they taste good because it's loaded with too much salt and so will spike your blood pressure. Which means you have to make your own cheese. Do we eat out? The answer is a big NO! Because of what they put into the food. Even preservatives that are packaged so it can last longer. So eating healthy, healthy, healthy is a complete different choice of lifestyle that you choose what you're going to digest. It also requires self disapline like martial arts. Eating late at night is the worst thing anyone in the world can do because of the sugar and the salt in the food, and so causes one to have a hard time falling asleep, not to mention when you're sleeping the sugar and salt goes into the blood and so the brain thinks you're awake which causes nightmares and snoring. I don't have to tell you, snoring leads to terrible heart problems that even requires surgery. If we have to go out to eat, it's buffet style once a year so we can eat the fruits and vegetables and if the food is too salty, we try another one that's not salty. So it's all about food choices that will determine what size we are and most of all, how healthy we are. We rather have health more than whining and dining!
Got to go!
Ciao! 🌴
First...Happy "60" Birthday! Can't think of a better city to celebrate your special day. Everything looked delicious tho name alone would not appeal to me....kinda have a 'you keep your cheek, I'll keep mine' axiom in life. 😁 Stay well. Stay happy. Stay in France! 😅😅😅😅
Thank you, Carol. I definitely had the same reaction with the "cheek" but it truly was delicious!!
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Did I miss the update of when (or if) you received your luggage?
Yes, we received our luggage!
@@kjandtonylovefrance Oh good!
Google maps shows this as “temporarily closed” - is this true and it’s currently not open at this moment?
Yes, it's true.
Apparently there was a fire in the kitchen and they are closed while the damage is being repaired. I believe they are scheduled to open again in December. It was disappointing because we had reservations for this month and they were canceled.
The current incarnation of Procope was opened in 1957, long after the original closed in the late nineteenth century. A number of different places occupied the space in the intervening years.
So, no, it's not the oldest restaurant in Paris. Not least because restaurants did not exist when the cafe (which it was for decades) opened. It is, quite simply, a modern restaurant with a lot of eighteenth century trimmings that uses a name from the past (and this year actually opened a coffee/tea room, so it can at least claim it's a cafe. After decades...)
Thank you for the info.
I'm so confused ... did I not just see a video where you described your visit to Le Procope? It certainly was different than your presentation and description here in this video. Did you not say the matre de was not that hospitable? Is there a video missing perhaps? Was your luggage ever delivered to you? Hope so. 💞
No, the video you are thinking of was our dinner at Jules Verne at the top of the Eiffel Tower. And yes, two very different experiences!
@@kjandtonylovefrance Ah Ha!! Thanks for clearing that up for me. Sending love. 💞
We ate in Le Procope last year and had a similar experience. Excellent food, excellent service, and while not cheap, the bill was lower than I had expected.
We also ate in the somewhat lower-priced 58 Tour Eiffel in the Eiffel Tower and while I preferred Le Procope, it was not bad, but I think the Eiffel Tower restaurants are likely overrated. I did this video there awhile back...
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Thank you!
Your meals looked delicious 😋
You don’t see like adventures eaters.
The Frenchies didnt rate the restautant
That's profiteroles for dessert not crème brulée. Crème brulée is totally different.
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Yes, we know. I added an annotation on the screen that indicates the mistake. Tony had the creme brulee the night before.
But you have to admit. They are both out of this world. Yumster!
How about food for a vegan? I eat no animal products.
They have vegan dishes!
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If you would cut the food and show us a closeup we could better see the quality. thanks
I will be sure to do that next time. Learning as I go and these kinds of tips are very helpful ❤️