No actually before the Britishers came to India, tawaifs were actually known as artists who could do classical/semi classical dance very well and could sing gracefully too. Many nawabs also went to them to learn ghazals, etiquettes etc. They had luxury and much respect. Before, uthk bethk with tawaifs was really very valuable and precious but after the Britishers came to India, the image of tawaifs worsened and thus they turned into prostitutes as shown in the picture. Britishers tortured the tawaifs, arrested some of the nawabs and tawaifs also and also stole all of the luxuries that the nawabs had.
If you were born in a regular family who didn’t have to sell you or make you sell your body or to marry you off at a young age, who offered you a roof and education, you are rich beyond anything. These poor women must’ve suffered so much 😢
By 1950s the French photographer saw prostitutes and not Tawaif in Heera Mandi. The Tawaif mostly extinguished by 1850s-1900s. The Tawaifs weren’t prostitutes but a highly skilled singers, dancers and depository of arts such as poems etc.
Courtesan meaning - Word forms: plural courtesans. In former times, a courtesan was a woman who had sexual relationships with rich and powerful men for money. Synonyms: mistress, prostitute, kept woman, paramour [old-fashioned]
@kittygirl_thetortie498 maybe in English and in Europe, but Tawaif and Vaishya were different, as explained by OP. The Europeans were the ones who made tawaifs into vaishyas.
Being a man myself, I have a question for the menfolk, did women really volunteer or enjoy being a part of this trade? Or was it a system created by us men that pushed women into doing this?
As a women I can say that women never cherish but at the British and nawab era people suffered so much to live an ordinary life and were so forced to pay taxes and left little money . But also in that time tawaif lived in good condition than normal people so they didn't feel joy but this type of life they chose was easy and their work was respected before the time comes when nawab want them for something
The earliest record of this trade dates back to when a bunch of priests started it. Yes, there is a % of women who got into this trade by their own wish but I wonder if there was no poverty would these women still choose to work as sex workers because they keep saying : 'it feels like a trap now'. The rest % of women who are in this trade are victims or born in this hell and ultimately, dragged into it irrespective of their wish. About heeramandi, I think it was a golden cage for tawaifs. They could put food on their plate but at the cost of their freedom and self respect. Once I read what a prostitute had said : ' it's better I sell my body and live, than die because I couldn't buy my diabetes medicine. ' So let it be tawaifs in past or now, they never had a choice. And ultimately, everything sums up to one thing : red light area exists because of men and poverty.
Thank God, you as a man asked this question..... I appreciate it. Otherwise no man would dare to think about it.... See the modern man who rapes , abuses, eve-teases, makes a woman uncomfortable anyway possible....
@@s-s08array yaar leave these people they don’t want to see good Indian art they are here just to criticise no matter what, these people deserve saas bahu serials only. Instead of appreciating they just criticise.
@@s-s08 Richa had the same shade as Sonakshi 🙄. The series set and costume design was indeed gorgeous. The issue i have with the series is that they have glorified the life of courtesans and made them fit the bill of modern day glamorous women in regards to their appearances and the social issues they faced.
These pictures are post independence, when the scene had lost its charm just like shown in the series.. the web series is about pre independence where heera Mandi had the riches n it's charm
@@Knknkn9595 nope,devadasi were respected in very olden days, they became call girls during monarchy rules much before British arrival.especially priest of temples exploited them.
They were given a status equal to Nawabs and the 1 tawayaf of Lahore had given Rs 15,000 to Gandhiji for helped him in being a freedom fighter. This is a real story, history tv also talk about this, in movie her character was bibbojan@@ThamizhiAaseevagar
From what I have read about the pre-independence or even few years prior to that was that these women were not prostitutes. They were learned women, well read and well trained in music and dance and would do just that for the rich and affluent people. In fact, the rich would even send their children to learn these art forms from these women. The women themselves were rich and respected. It is the Britishers came and changed everything and destroyed this culture reducing the stature of these women to prostitutes. Sadly. These photographs seem to be of the post independence era. By that time, a lot had changed.
To all people who are these ladies "ugly" and how they were shown so beautiful in the movie, ask yourself will you be able to handle a "ugly" person being lead actor in any movie???
@@Adeeba-Aizaz I am a dancer myself so I have read enough of books about history and specially with regards to my subject. Maybe you need to read more than just what your history school syllabus taught you. There are many unheard voices and stories from the Indian Freedom struggle that are waiting to be heard, but unfortunately they have been unrecognized.
@@aartiraghuram5295 I've read as much as I can but it's not something learning through movies or dramas, In today's era everything is not visibly capturized in movies and some voices r left unheard and not payed attention, In order to know real history we must need to approach towards books
Guys..... these pictures are probably taken during British era... where Heera mandi was turned into red light area from a cultural institution. During Mughal period, Heeramandi was named after Hira Singh, the prime minister of Lahore (in the reign of Ranjit Singh). During Mughal Empire, heeramandi was epitome of culture and traditions where courtesan and their families were masters in classical music and dance and art. Courtesan had huge respect in the society but later degraded due to British impact. (Heeramandi Series is set in the era of Mughal period). So don't compare the series with British era Heeramandi.!
Yes for Indian every bad thing is becoz of British...come out of this mentality.These institutions were made only for the purpose of entertainment of kings of that time..that involved physical exploitation too..there are so many videos on TH-cam where they are making Britishers responsible for all of this...but reality is that they were for the purpose of exploitation from the very beginning...I know your information is copied from those videos only...
@@SgianHasiihe destroyed plot of bajirao , mastani was never that big part of bajiro's life nor his end was like that he was a powerfull undefeated general
Mughals used to love eunuch, the life of eunuch was very very tough how they have lived in Mughal era the pain they suffered salute to them they have a worst life in Asia, in us before male a female eunuch get more respect when it comes to God.
@@aneiy as humans they have the right to be respected as a person...so i dont see as to why it is a big deal to show basic courtesy to someone whos life is as important and valuable as ours.
@@lmao.nits11 the statement "if they are human we need to respect them" is utterly nonsense! Will you respect a thief, a rapist, a killer etc. They are also human na People should be respected on their work on their nature not because they are just humans!
I don't know mene ye series nhi dekhi hai per mujhe bahut rona aa rha hai ye dekh ke ...my heart wrenching ...hurting .. paining ..so much pain after this..kitne mushkilo se azadi li or kya bna dya hai aaj hamne Bharat ko
@ishasiddiqui7217 pakistan humse jyada develop hora ? You have got to be kidding me. No offense to pakistan, but bro, are you living under a rock? Konsi duniya me reh rahe ho tum?
These pictures are from a much later decade from what is shown in the movie, in the movie its much before the independence at that time there was more opulance after independence it reduced to this state, in movie also its shown that once th freedom struggle started heeramandi lost its old world charm due to tawaifs being involved in freedom struggle
@@StarlightndustHeeramandi is set in the mid-1940s, Mallikajaan's youth is set in the late 10s and early 20s and the main parts are set 26 years later. 😊
Why Bollywood so much promotes this type of culture now days...means what youths learning from this kind of culture and I'm shocked now it's trending also 🥺
Brother they have shown the contribution of those unsung tawayebs(Dancers)of heeramandi in our freedom fight, whom society looks in very disrespectful manner because they do sex work...pls before criticizing go and watch once.. you will definitely goona love it..😊
Yes now a days bollywood only make this type of movies, i don't know why they make this type of movies, which is not messages to related reality of life to young generations.
Originally before independence they were dancers not prostitutes..they later started sleeping with the english to get information which helped us get independence
Who were the original founders and actors and singers....a little walk down historical lane will tell you it was from the tawaif culture... so ofc thy gona glamourise it and hide how brutal it must hve been.
Why people are not focusing over the concept that whether if they were tawaifs they helped in providing funds to freedom fighters.... Azaad Hindustan ka khi na khi 1% hi shi credit unko bhi jata h...
@@kim54688 thanks for atleast recognising trans ppl as skilled.....and understanding their talent along with cis women who worked their...transwomen are present even in heeramandi.....I am really shocked🙂
Yeh harsh reality hai.... heeramandi is not a fairytale castle with queens and princesses....it was a bizzare place for the women that time which is shown in the reel
Bro this is lahore. Mostly all of them were fair skinned. They look dark skinned only in the photos and it seriously does not matter what the skin colour was.
The fact is inicially HM was a place of art culture and glory but with British invasion things started to fall. These pictures were at the verge of fall of HM by then all art and glory drained. Infact Maharaja Ranjit singh wife Moran Sarkar was from HM around 1850s So before these British rascals came the situation was glamorous
There is a huge difference between tawaifs and prostitutes.. People are confused because bollywood did that. Tawaifs are not prostitues, they were highly educated well behaved ladies who are highly qualified in gazals, poems, well mannered women who are dancers and entertained the nawabs.. Prostitues are borned by britishers who used them, they started sale them for their soldiers. Tawaifs never did these work infacts nawabs send their children to them to learn atticates. These photos are mixed before Independence and before of Independence which shows declines and richness of twaifs at the same time.
Sanjay bansali’s heroines in a brothel are celebrates like beauties and living a life of luxury. These photos show the real pain behind each woman’s life in a different world and insides of a brothel 😢
@@Sarahhadid123 Depends on exotic dancers, if anyone like any dancer, they would ask for it and then if dancer is interested, its her decision. Ofcourse they are very talented, but some of them used to be home destroyers.
@@Sarahhadid123 they were mostly..... Mistresses of the nawab or rajas. And Yes before Britishers invaded us they were mistresses. Don't get inspired by these people. You can say rakhail of rajkumars and nawabs.
@@36rishikasinha43 Oh wow. So you judge these women based on their sex life with multiple men... What about those so-called "rajas", "nawabs" and "rajkumars" then? They literally slept with these women (multiple women) and yet they're given all the respect whereas these women are treated like a $h!t for the same reason? Hypocrisy much? I believe those men are the one who belonged to streets. No wonder it's a patriarchal dystopia we're living in! What you're feeling is internalized misogyny.
@@36rishikasinha43Well, that was their job albeit it was what brought them theircsaily bread, if you wanna call someone a home wrecker, call oit to the men who couldn't keep it in their pants. 😊
I’m convinced the people who are criticising SLB’s take on the red light district are the ones who get off on women’s pain. We know these women suffered at the hands of their patrons, what good is it to put in on the screen? I think it’s more important to show how these women clung to their strength, that is also part of reality. But people don’t want reality, they just want women to be perfect victims with nothing but suffering and despair.
Sir Bhansali ji is like a king of khajuraho temple. He was born and brought up in red light and closely observed the pains and art of it. He is great man, a very positive personality and simple but perfectionist. Devdas dekhlo
Ye bhi hamare samaj ka ek hissa hai or jo kotha nhi jate vo rape karte hai kyuki unke pass paise nhi hote kothe Jane kebhi or ladkiya kam nhi hai unke liye ladko ka kotha khul Jaye to vobhi jaye voto unko free ka mil jata hai friends with benefits ka maja to kya jarurat Jame ki 😅
@@Ruchimakeover24Heeramandi ko glorify karne waley mughals ke hindu aurato ke saath kar rahey forced sex slavery ko glorify kar rahey hai. Have some shame. They are not happy living that life. No woman is happy living as a sex slave but ye movie directors mughals ke hindu sex slaves ke lives ko glorify karne baithe hai. Mughals were always the worst thing happened to Hindus and Bharat. Kitna bhi false glorify karne dekh lo. A part of current and 90s generation jave fallen into the leftist liberandu brainwashed trap where take these things casually and even atand against their own hindu community which fights against mughals britishers and their atrocities on hindus just as it fits their brainwashed modern mindsets. Shame on such hindus. Shame on such Bharatiyas
Ye humara samaj aur culture ka hissa nahi hai. Inhe aisa life inpe force kiya gaya hai. Apologies for saying this but with due resect, Kya aap ek sex slave banke rehna pasand karogi?? It's a shame you say this is a art of our samaj. We don't despise(hate) the people who were forced to work as sex slaves but we despise those who forced them into sex slavery, who enjoy their sex slavery, who use them just for sex. The hindu women are beautiful but they did not deserve to be forced into sex slavery, they did not deserve to be sold to muslims and some scum hindus who relished their own people getting sold and putting their dignities on sale.
It is a pity and a shame that such capable directors as SLB has glorified and romantisized the most shameful and harsh reality of our society in such a manner that we are almost in love with the seriel Heeramandi. A real shame. Hei should have used his skill in such a manner that Heeramandi should have shaken our souls. Very sad indeed .
@enlightedsoul Didi tab AAP bhi nah hoti.......😂😂😂. Ye jagat nah hota.....Apni pseudo feminism har jagah mt use kara karo. Dimag bhi use kar liya karo kbhi kbhi. Dono ( male female ) jaruri hai
That's not about being beautiful Tawaifs were highly respected artists They were fantastic dancers as wells as singers Even high nobles would send their children to learn from them
@@muskanchauhan9794fr aajkl kuch logo ko bss bkchodi maarni hi aati hh history pdho bhai and feel proud.. jo tum apni puri zindagi mein nhi kr paoge na voh ye log apni jaan aur izzat pr khel kr krte the
They all are beautiful , camera and the way pic is captured matter most some faces are beautiful but not photogenic they were tawaif’s not model, bhansali just had to show the dresses shalwar kamiz instead of garara’s
And Bollywood glamourised it, all the sufferings these women went through, So much pain that equals a dark chapter in south asian history and at least not to be portrayed as bhansali’s lust have pictured it
Heeramandi is a masterpiece they show the critic and art of india ..those freedom fighters..lots of people who sacrifice for their nation have no clue ... We need much more to show solidarity or them who sacrifice everything for independent india
If I am not wrong they were showing early revolutionary era in the show, this is almost a decade. Not saying that it’s not glamorized but heramandi was supposed to be home to some of the richest women in Lahore at the time
This song was written in the honour of beauty of spring season, it literally describes the blooming mustard in fields nd other aesthetics of spring season 🌼 It was just sang in the court of nizamuddin....
Heeramandi is fantasized as well as glamorized but what about University's like Takshashila,do they not deserve movie on their name.But the highly educated urduwood can't even think of it.
No it is about role of those women who were abused harshly and valued freedom the most .. all respect to their free souls they broke every societal chain with their sacrifice to free a country that did not grant them freedom even afterwards the colonialism coz heeramandi lasted till today
Why all of a sudden heermandi is getting so much popularity remember guys instead of feeling bad we are actually enjoying May Allah guide us all this is very alarming
What do you think guys 🤔 if they were ugly...then the nawabs would have wasted their money on these women ?? Infact they were talented singers and dancers and source of entertainment in that era...this is my guess 😉 Anyways i watched Heera Mandi and enjoyed it ❤ i respect the women who took part in the freedom struggle, whatever they maybe 😍
People do not realize how they really ended up there. There are so many girls who were abducted from their families. They would have lost their innocence from a really young age. World is cruel. Look beyond women’s body. Society need to change. Do better than your ancestors.
@@zubaidakhan3795they were part of society, not the society. The series seems to be some fictional nonsense. It neither highlighted their plight nor showed facts.
Pehle k jamane me toh rehte hi the pehen k. Apna status maintain krna padta tha, kaise Raja, Rani heere jewraat pehen k baith the the waise hi yeh v rehti hongi, yeh pictures Jo dikhaya gaya hain yeh toh bohot baad ki photos hain, Independence ki baad ki, is daur tak toh Tawaifon ka daur khatam ho chuka tha, yeh toh red light area ki Kuch jhalki hain, bas.
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Clear difference of reel life ( hypothetical, full of luxuries, respect and love) and real life( pain, negligence,filth, and sufferings)
Yes
Reel is for marketing, selling, and making profits. It has nothing to do with the suffering, pain, and agony of the real-life people.
No actually before the Britishers came to India, tawaifs were actually known as artists who could do classical/semi classical dance very well and could sing gracefully too. Many nawabs also went to them to learn ghazals, etiquettes etc. They had luxury and much respect. Before, uthk bethk with tawaifs was really very valuable and precious but after the Britishers came to India, the image of tawaifs worsened and thus they turned into prostitutes as shown in the picture. Britishers tortured the tawaifs, arrested some of the nawabs and tawaifs also and also stole all of the luxuries that the nawabs had.
Know the history before commenting
Hope , this reel reach to that women or girls who are making reels on bibojaan dance, and walk. They should know what they are doing
If you were born in a regular family who didn’t have to sell you or make you sell your body or to marry you off at a young age, who offered you a roof and education, you are rich beyond anything. These poor women must’ve suffered so much 😢
Well said
😢😢yes
Yes so true... Looking through these pics i feel for them 😢😢
I agree and to glamorize their life like we saw in heeramandi is just very wrong and far from reality.
So true, and girls complain about things that doesn't matter.
Bollywood glamourising the sufferings of these poor women
Bollywood wants to promote this kind of activities
Beyond that glamour there is a hidden pain and bitter realities as well
If they WOULDNT GLAM IT UP THEN NONE OF US WOULD WATCH IT! aRE YOU DUMB?
They are showing they are also freedom fighter ok don't make politics
promote hoke tum yeh shuru kar doge? bakhchodi mat karo@@nikitafromuttarakhand6800
& Bhanshalis imagination is so high that he leaves the original things behind like he always do 😊
EXACTLY we tend to forget the point of the whole thing just because of such
@@muskanarya2445 Indeed
@@Picashuu8409 thank you for your information
um no? The series was about tawaifs not prostitutes. Tawaifs were long gone till 1952 so what's shown in this vid are not the real tawaifs
@@eesha15 but the place ?
By 1950s the French photographer saw prostitutes and not Tawaif in Heera Mandi. The Tawaif mostly extinguished by 1850s-1900s. The Tawaifs weren’t prostitutes but a highly skilled singers, dancers and depository of arts such as poems etc.
Courtesan meaning -
Word forms: plural courtesans. In former times, a courtesan was a woman who had sexual relationships with rich and powerful men for money. Synonyms: mistress, prostitute, kept woman, paramour [old-fashioned]
Courtesan and prostitute's are the same thing. They are synonym words i.e. different words which bears the same exact meaning.
@kittygirl_thetortie498 maybe in English and in Europe, but Tawaif and Vaishya were different, as explained by OP. The Europeans were the ones who made tawaifs into vaishyas.
@@Jana_San_SS yes i should have used the term tawaif insted of courtesan.
a prostitute that can sing and dance to entertain is still a prostitute. Stop trying to glamorize sexual exploitation of poor women.
There's a huge difference between Netflix Series and Reality.
Exactly. That's the whole point
Exactly. That's the whole point
@@myselfkumailhalf the pics aren't even from 1952 bruh . Spreading misformation online ! Shame
ya and also there is huge diffrence between putting opinion just by watching some reels without knowing what the reality was 🤷♂️
@@Shivangi-jx8ko have you ever been there?
Being a man myself, I have a question for the menfolk, did women really volunteer or enjoy being a part of this trade? Or was it a system created by us men that pushed women into doing this?
As a women I can say that women never cherish but at the British and nawab era people suffered so much to live an ordinary life and were so forced to pay taxes and left little money . But also in that time tawaif lived in good condition than normal people so they didn't feel joy but this type of life they chose was easy and their work was respected before the time comes when nawab want them for something
Women love dancing but at their will
Not as piece offered to men for their entertainment
The earliest record of this trade dates back to when a bunch of priests started it.
Yes, there is a % of women who got into this trade by their own wish but I wonder if there was no poverty would these women still choose to work as sex workers because they keep saying : 'it feels like a trap now'.
The rest % of women who are in this trade are victims or born in this hell and ultimately, dragged into it irrespective of their wish.
About heeramandi, I think it was a golden cage for tawaifs. They could put food on their plate but at the cost of their freedom and self respect.
Once I read what a prostitute had said : ' it's better I sell my body and live, than die because I couldn't buy my diabetes medicine. '
So let it be tawaifs in past or now, they never had a choice.
And ultimately, everything sums up to one thing : red light area exists because of men and poverty.
Thank God, you as a man asked this question..... I appreciate it. Otherwise no man would dare to think about it.... See the modern man who rapes , abuses, eve-teases, makes a woman uncomfortable anyway possible....
Created by men
As usual everyone was fair& lovely and fitting to euro centric beauty standards in the indian series
Richa Chadda is not fair
@@kanishthabala9662 she definetly didnt look dark in the series
Are yaar ...you people need to chill a bit ...the movie was gorgeous 🩷they added different kinds of bodies...and yes richa did look dark comparitively
@@s-s08array yaar leave these people they don’t want to see good Indian art they are here just to criticise no matter what, these people deserve saas bahu serials only. Instead of appreciating they just criticise.
@@s-s08 Richa had the same shade as Sonakshi 🙄. The series set and costume design was indeed gorgeous. The issue i have with the series is that they have glorified the life of courtesans and made them fit the bill of modern day glamorous women in regards to their appearances and the social issues they faced.
This is the scary reality...not what Bollywood trying to show.... that's why i didn't wasted my time in watching any episode ✅
These pictures are post independence, when the scene had lost its charm just like shown in the series.. the web series is about pre independence where heera Mandi had the riches n it's charm
True
It's an awsm series the acting n Direction .just watch it once without comparing with real characters u ll like it
That's why you are unknown of the fact that series is related before independence
Me too
reel heeramandi is rich, glamour, fantasized.
Bhai aap lahor se hain kya?
Before Britishers came to India tawaifs and devdaasis were respected communities... Exploited maybe
@@Knknkn9595 nope,devadasi were respected in very olden days, they became call girls during monarchy rules much before British arrival.especially priest of temples exploited them.
They were given a status equal to Nawabs and the 1 tawayaf of Lahore had given Rs 15,000 to Gandhiji for helped him in being a freedom fighter. This is a real story, history tv also talk about this, in movie her character was bibbojan@@ThamizhiAaseevagar
And useless
From what I have read about the pre-independence or even few years prior to that was that these women were not prostitutes. They were learned women, well read and well trained in music and dance and would do just that for the rich and affluent people. In fact, the rich would even send their children to learn these art forms from these women. The women themselves were rich and respected.
It is the Britishers came and changed everything and destroyed this culture reducing the stature of these women to prostitutes. Sadly.
These photographs seem to be of the post independence era. By that time, a lot had changed.
Sad
Hahaha they were sleeping with saheb and British 😂😂
Tnq for the information 😊
@advocateinamdar6887 he is saying it even before British enter our country
Read properly..he is saying about pre British era..🙂@@advocateinamdar6887
Then - Nawab
Now - Sugardaddy
Ye heera mandi hai kon ?
Ye heera mandi h kon ?
😂😂😂😂
Then - sahab
Now - sugerdaddy
@@shivanshurana5249 Jgh h jo ab Lahore m hai.
Bhansali has glamorized Heeramandi sooo much.
Haha yess
To all people who are these ladies "ugly" and how they were shown so beautiful in the movie, ask yourself will you be able to handle a "ugly" person being lead actor in any movie???
🤓🤓🤓
No, it’s about them being eunuchs and movie mentioning no such thing
U don't have any rights to call anyone ugly...... ugly is our minds if we lacks to see beauty in anyone
@@sarojmalkar3455 you're telling this to the wrong person girly
they could have cast rakhi sawant
Salute to all these people for their efforts towards the freedom of the nation🫡🫡
Aisa kch bhi nhii tha Bhai tareeqh perho ap jaa kr in ka azadi se koi Lena dena nhii tha flim Mai sab Galat potray Kiya gaya hai
@@Ashhh_sheikh please history padh lo jaake aap. Itna bada director galat facts leke movie kyu banaayega. Kuch bhi matlab.
Don't learn history from such films, Books r full of knowledge
@@Adeeba-Aizaz I am a dancer myself so I have read enough of books about history and specially with regards to my subject. Maybe you need to read more than just what your history school syllabus taught you. There are many unheard voices and stories from the Indian Freedom struggle that are waiting to be heard, but unfortunately they have been unrecognized.
@@aartiraghuram5295 I've read as much as I can but it's not something learning through movies or dramas, In today's era everything is not visibly capturized in movies and some voices r left unheard and not payed attention, In order to know real history we must need to approach towards books
No nobles or royalty in the pics. The British had ruined the entire place from a hub of pride and etiquettes to a brothel
Guys..... these pictures are probably taken during British era... where Heera mandi was turned into red light area from a cultural institution.
During Mughal period, Heeramandi was named after Hira Singh, the prime minister of Lahore (in the reign of Ranjit Singh).
During Mughal Empire, heeramandi was epitome of culture and traditions where courtesan and their families were masters in classical music and dance and art.
Courtesan had huge respect in the society but later degraded due to British impact.
(Heeramandi Series is set in the era of Mughal period).
So don't compare the series with British era Heeramandi.!
this comment should be more famous
Yes for Indian every bad thing is becoz of British...come out of this mentality.These institutions were made only for the purpose of entertainment of kings of that time..that involved physical exploitation too..there are so many videos on TH-cam where they are making Britishers responsible for all of this...but reality is that they were for the purpose of exploitation from the very beginning...I know your information is copied from those videos only...
The Heera Mandi netflix series is set in British Era im sure. You can see them fighting against British rule it is not Mughal period
I agree with your point that British ruined reputation… that is why we see in series it has turned more into red light area
SLB is obsessed with them.. Gangubai, Heeramandi, Devdas, Sawariya, Kalank.
Kalank was not SLB film.
Bajrao mastani, Padmaavat ?
and your point is? let him make a film however he wants to he is good at it and its a film so just watch and enjoy or dislike if you prefer
@@SgianHasiihe destroyed plot of bajirao , mastani was never that big part of bajiro's life nor his end was like that he was a powerfull undefeated general
They’re absolutely beautiful in my eyes
They’re an ART
One of them looked like a man. Most likely was, biologically. There’s many kinds of beauty. There’s definitely artistic beauty here.
Mughals used to love eunuch, the life of eunuch was very very tough how they have lived in Mughal era the pain they suffered salute to them they have a worst life in Asia, in us before male a female eunuch get more respect when it comes to God.
Bhansali just want to tell us and society to respect them through his movies. Don't disrespect them.
Why should we respect them, what respectable they done?
@@aneiyread.history
@@aneiy as humans they have the right to be respected as a person...so i dont see as to why it is a big deal to show basic courtesy to someone whos life is as important and valuable as ours.
@@lmao.nits11 the statement "if they are human we need to respect them" is utterly nonsense!
Will you respect a thief, a rapist, a killer etc. They are also human na
People should be respected on their work on their nature not because they are just humans!
@@aneiy so many mothers and sister are safe bcz of these respectful ladies. They are also human, they have full rights to choose their profession
I don't know mene ye series nhi dekhi hai per mujhe bahut rona aa rha hai ye dekh ke ...my heart wrenching ...hurting .. paining ..so much pain after this..kitne mushkilo se azadi li or kya bna dya hai aaj hamne Bharat ko
Ur Bharat is in good condition now than our country Pakistan 😢
@@splash-msnNahi India tabah horha h modi k wjh se Pakistan to bht agy h India se.Indians bs movie me kmyb hrae hn😂
@ishasiddiqui7217 pakistan humse jyada develop hora ? You have got to be kidding me. No offense to pakistan, but bro, are you living under a rock? Konsi duniya me reh rahe ho tum?
These pictures are from a much later decade from what is shown in the movie, in the movie its much before the independence at that time there was more opulance after independence it reduced to this state, in movie also its shown that once th freedom struggle started heeramandi lost its old world charm due to tawaifs being involved in freedom struggle
Exactly 💯
Yes, Heera Mandi serues was set in 1920.
no one is going to understand this 🤷♂️
@@StarlightndustHeeramandi is set in the mid-1940s, Mallikajaan's youth is set in the late 10s and early 20s and the main parts are set 26 years later.
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@@Kiiiiiiiie thanks for the clarification.
Why Bollywood so much promotes this type of culture now days...means what youths learning from this kind of culture and I'm shocked now it's trending also 🥺
Brother they have shown the contribution of those unsung tawayebs(Dancers)of heeramandi in our freedom fight, whom society looks in very disrespectful manner because they do sex work...pls before criticizing go and watch once.. you will definitely goona love it..😊
Yes now a days bollywood only make this type of movies, i don't know why they make this type of movies, which is not messages to related reality of life to young generations.
Originally before independence they were dancers not prostitutes..they later started sleeping with the english to get information which helped us get independence
Learn history
Who were the original founders and actors and singers....a little walk down historical lane will tell you it was from the tawaif culture... so ofc thy gona glamourise it and hide how brutal it must hve been.
The women with guitar is actually gorgeous 🫶🏻😭
It's वीणा, that's not a guitar
yes indeed she too was an indian too
Bhai vo guitar nhi hai 💀
@@mrpepperspray thank you 😚💀
Suryya multanikar hein harmonium ke sath , saraiki singer ptv pe inke song sune hein
So sad that it is the men who facilitate such things in society...can you imagine your mother , daughter or sister like this...
Im afraid of thinking about their feelings, conditions and helath. 🙏🏼 oh God! How merciless this world is...
ઔરત ને મરદ કો જનમ દિયા ઔર મરદ ને ઉસે બાઝાર દિયા...😢..!! યે ઉન ઐયાશ મરદ કી. કરતૂત કા કલંક હૈં... જો ખુદ કો આદમી, મર્દ કેહતે ઉન્કે મુહ પર એક કરારા તમાચા, થપ્પડ હૈં... જબ તક હમ અપની માં,બેહન , બેટિયો કો સુરક્ષા, સલામતી નહી....દે સકતે...નાં.. ઈજ્જત કી નજર સે દેખ સકતે હૈં... તબ તક હમ દંભી સમાજ કે અલાવા કુછ ભી નહિ હૈ...!! ઔર મરદ તો કતઇ નહી હૈં... શરમ હૈં ઐસી સમાજ વ્યવસ્થા કો...😢!! પ્રણામ.. માફ કરના... લેકિન યે બાત જીતની કડવી વાસ્તવિકતા હૈં ઉતની હિ સચ્ચી ભી હૈં....!!
Those indian ladies suffered so much. They were really the bravehearts who still lived. Looking at their sufferings, our little problems look so dull
Why people are not focusing over the concept that whether if they were tawaifs they helped in providing funds to freedom fighters.... Azaad Hindustan ka khi na khi 1% hi shi credit unko bhi jata h...
What a rare picture, the real picture of bazar husn, tremendous.❤
Some of them were definitely not women
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Duh... There are many trans ppl who are in this business too. You didn't make any ground breaking discovery
@@tanyapathak18 Bruh fr (also most of the women/transwomen were phenomenally skilled in indian classical music/dance)
@@kim54688 thanks for atleast recognising trans ppl as skilled.....and understanding their talent along with cis women who worked their...transwomen are present even in heeramandi.....I am really shocked🙂
Inme se to ek bhi aditi rao jesi ni 😂😂
wo actress hae...asli prostitutes esi he hoti hae garib ......r u dumb
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Us samay raniyo ke mujre ki photo nii li jati thi ye sb to unki dekh rekh krne vali h😎
Yeh harsh reality hai.... heeramandi is not a fairytale castle with queens and princesses....it was a bizzare place for the women that time which is shown in the reel
Aditi rao bht dur ki baat h. Ek bh farah khan jaise bh nhi😅
Bhansali being obsessed with fair skinned people🤡
Yeah true
Bro this is lahore. Mostly all of them were fair skinned. They look dark skinned only in the photos and it seriously does not matter what the skin colour was.
@@garvitakhosla9273 yeahh but it does matter in Bollywood!!
no his niece is dark skinned and she had a prominent role
@@basicsurfer08 then what's the point of glamoursing them....Should have shown the reality!!
For me is an excellent series with excellent content, story, etc but the actors and actresses are amazing too!!
The fact is inicially HM was a place of art culture and glory but with British invasion things started to fall. These pictures were at the verge of fall of HM by then all art and glory drained. Infact Maharaja Ranjit singh wife Moran Sarkar was from HM around 1850s So before these British rascals came the situation was glamorous
What a voice yaar
There is a huge difference between tawaifs and prostitutes.. People are confused because bollywood did that. Tawaifs are not prostitues, they were highly educated well behaved ladies who are highly qualified in gazals, poems, well mannered women who are dancers and entertained the nawabs.. Prostitues are borned by britishers who used them, they started sale them for their soldiers. Tawaifs never did these work infacts nawabs send their children to them to learn atticates.
These photos are mixed before Independence and before of Independence which shows declines and richness of twaifs at the same time.
Thanks for your knowledge. I learnt something new. So many probably did not understand this!
Even the top people were doing prostitution in that movie
Sanjay bansali’s heroines in a brothel are celebrates like beauties and living a life of luxury. These photos show the real pain behind each woman’s life in a different world and insides of a brothel 😢
That's the whole point.
The web series didnt showed the reality of these kothas..reality is better shown inovies like umrao jaan, mandi, saheb biei and gulam(old) etc..
The web series showed pre independence heeramandi.
This is much later
You can't understand the pain of twaiffs reel shows the luxury,love nd respect but reality is harsh
Sari movies ab redlight area pe ban rhi hai 🫤
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The buildings are still old like it was in this picture
I am from Lahore and I visit many time this place
This song is my mind very beautiful voice 😍
How films make it fun and joy and ignore their real pain behind glamour 😢
Exactly.
Movies and Films portraits Tavayaf been most beautiful and attractive, despite in real in they were quite ordinary and some were ugly!!
They were more prized for talent , rather than beauty. They were not prostitutes , but were talented women , that's why they were worth so much..
@@Sarahhadid123 Depends on exotic dancers, if anyone like any dancer, they would ask for it and then if dancer is interested, its her decision. Ofcourse they are very talented, but some of them used to be home destroyers.
@@Sarahhadid123 they were mostly..... Mistresses of the nawab or rajas. And Yes before Britishers invaded us they were mistresses. Don't get inspired by these people. You can say rakhail of rajkumars and nawabs.
@@36rishikasinha43 Oh wow. So you judge these women based on their sex life with multiple men... What about those so-called "rajas", "nawabs" and "rajkumars" then? They literally slept with these women (multiple women) and yet they're given all the respect whereas these women are treated like a $h!t for the same reason? Hypocrisy much? I believe those men are the one who belonged to streets.
No wonder it's a patriarchal dystopia we're living in! What you're feeling is internalized misogyny.
@@36rishikasinha43Well, that was their job albeit it was what brought them theircsaily bread, if you wanna call someone a home wrecker, call oit to the men who couldn't keep it in their pants.
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Thank you for this video...
I found my great grandfather picture in the video.... Jinho se hamari khamdani jameen kothe pe uda di 😢😢😢
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I’m convinced the people who are criticising SLB’s take on the red light district are the ones who get off on women’s pain. We know these women suffered at the hands of their patrons, what good is it to put in on the screen? I think it’s more important to show how these women clung to their strength, that is also part of reality. But people don’t want reality, they just want women to be perfect victims with nothing but suffering and despair.
why does Sanjay Bhansali always make films on kothas ?
Kuch bhi ho achhi toh lagti hi hain ❤
Sir Bhansali ji is like a king of khajuraho temple. He was born and brought up in red light and closely observed the pains and art of it. He is great man, a very positive personality and simple but perfectionist. Devdas dekhlo
Ye bhi hamare samaj ka ek hissa hai or jo kotha nhi jate vo rape karte hai kyuki unke pass paise nhi hote kothe Jane kebhi or ladkiya kam nhi hai unke liye ladko ka kotha khul Jaye to vobhi jaye voto unko free ka mil jata hai friends with benefits ka maja to kya jarurat Jame ki 😅
@@Ruchimakeover24Heeramandi ko glorify karne waley mughals ke hindu aurato ke saath kar rahey forced sex slavery ko glorify kar rahey hai. Have some shame. They are not happy living that life. No woman is happy living as a sex slave but ye movie directors mughals ke hindu sex slaves ke lives ko glorify karne baithe hai.
Mughals were always the worst thing happened to Hindus and Bharat.
Kitna bhi false glorify karne dekh lo.
A part of current and 90s generation jave fallen into the leftist liberandu brainwashed trap where take these things casually and even atand against their own hindu community which fights against mughals britishers and their atrocities on hindus just as it fits their brainwashed modern mindsets. Shame on such hindus. Shame on such Bharatiyas
Ye humara samaj aur culture ka hissa nahi hai. Inhe aisa life inpe force kiya gaya hai. Apologies for saying this but with due resect, Kya aap ek sex slave banke rehna pasand karogi??
It's a shame you say this is a art of our samaj. We don't despise(hate) the people who were forced to work as sex slaves but we despise those who forced them into sex slavery, who enjoy their sex slavery, who use them just for sex.
The hindu women are beautiful but they did not deserve to be forced into sex slavery, they did not deserve to be sold to muslims and some scum hindus who relished their own people getting sold and putting their dignities on sale.
Bollywood ka future dekhai dekh Raha hai
Andhera kayam ho😂😂😂
It is a pity and a shame that such capable directors as SLB has glorified and romantisized the most shameful and harsh reality of our society in such a manner that we are almost in love with the seriel Heeramandi. A real shame. Hei should have used his skill in such a manner that Heeramandi should have shaken our souls. Very sad indeed .
We dont know how much they went through.... 🙏
Wrong information! The 10th pic is Suraiya Multanikar performing in Pak Radio in Dhaka, not from Heeramandi! Don't believe anyone easily guys 😂
Suraiya multanikar
beauty of simplicity captured magnificently!
Thanks to French photographers for saving such things
No one was as glamorous as depicted...
Admi na hote toh sansaar sukhi hota
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Attend ur biology class..😂😂
Ye rachna bhgwan ne ki h jisme dono ka hona jaruri h 😊
Ye
@enlightedsoul Didi tab AAP bhi nah hoti.......😂😂😂. Ye jagat nah hota.....Apni pseudo feminism har jagah mt use kara karo. Dimag bhi use kar liya karo kbhi kbhi. Dono ( male female ) jaruri hai
If these womens are beautiful then I'm miss universe 🤭
That's not about being beautiful
Tawaifs were highly respected artists
They were fantastic dancers as wells as singers
Even high nobles would send their children to learn from them
@@muskanchauhan9794 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
pahle ke daur me ye khubasurt bhi bahut thi aur kaafi achchhi kalakaar
@@muskanchauhan9794fr aajkl kuch logo ko bss bkchodi maarni hi aati hh history pdho bhai and feel proud.. jo tum apni puri zindagi mein nhi kr paoge na voh ye log apni jaan aur izzat pr khel kr krte the
Well dont be afraid, you are not.
Miss universes are gracefully, learnt and defenitely not as petty as you so.
So rest easy, love.
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They all are beautiful , camera and the way pic is captured matter most some faces are beautiful but not photogenic they were tawaif’s not model, bhansali just had to show the dresses shalwar kamiz instead of garara’s
And Bollywood glamourised it, all the sufferings these women went through, So much pain that equals a dark chapter in south asian history and at least not to be portrayed as bhansali’s lust have pictured it
Thumbs up was introduced in 1977 and I saw a thumbs up bottle on a girls head😅
Nice observation 😂
Can u share the timestamp ?
@@JTCBRafter 30 second
Real wali to Allah maaf keray kitni bdsurat hain aur movie wali to sb ki sb bht khoobsurat hain.
😂😂😂सत्य वचन😅😅
@G-ew6sk fr bhi facial features bilkul v kisike achhe nhi
@@arpitasarkar4593chakke lag rahi hai yeh sab..... Ptaa nhi log inke saath woh sab kaise krte they....
Aur Allah aapko maaf kre ki aapke paas itni choti soch hai ki Allah ki bnai Hui cheez ko badsurat keh rhe ho
All are looking like men .
Sanjay Leela Bhansali
I respect you man , you are a real man ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Heeramandi is a masterpiece they show the critic and art of india ..those freedom fighters..lots of people who sacrifice for their nation have no clue ... We need much more to show solidarity or them who sacrifice everything for independent india
These are now the photos from that time bruhhh
Half of these are from much later years !!
Bhansali ko itne khoobsurat ladkiyon ki jagah Mardo ko cast karna chahiye tha😂😂
If I am not wrong they were showing early revolutionary era in the show, this is almost a decade. Not saying that it’s not glamorized but heramandi was supposed to be home to some of the richest women in Lahore at the time
Waise toh masum guzare hai zindagi me kayi par ab na jane kyu mujhe woh lag rahe he hasi tere aane par jana Mene kahi na kahi zinda hu me ❤❤❤💟💟💟💟💟💟
इनमेँ नूरजहाँ तो है ही नहीँ।।
The song was written 800 years back, in honour of the sant Nizamuddin
Exactly 💯❤️👍🏼
This song was written in the honour of beauty of spring season, it literally describes the blooming mustard in fields nd other aesthetics of spring season 🌼 It was just sang in the court of nizamuddin....
You mean in 11th century???
Inspired from Hindu bhajan on Saraswati Puja.
Hawas ka Maulana
Heeramandi is fantasized as well as glamorized but what about University's like Takshashila,do they not deserve movie on their name.But the highly educated urduwood can't even think of it.
The emptiness in their eyes speaks louder than words
Yess it shows so many things
How could a movie be made about the exploitation of women? Is this something India is proud of?
Not India but Bollywood.
We'll not watch such bullshit.
No it is about role of those women who were abused harshly and valued freedom the most .. all respect to their free souls they broke every societal chain with their sacrifice to free a country that did not grant them freedom even afterwards the colonialism coz heeramandi lasted till today
Then dont nobody is asking you to watch it! Clown @@nacetylglucosamine
Typical Bollywood
Wth are you blaming the whole country little bro?
Who saw that heeramandi's spelling was Hira mandi written on the board
I thank the Page Owner for highligting transwomen in this video and also giving recognition to their pain.....🙂
Why all of a sudden heermandi is getting so much popularity remember guys instead of feeling bad we are actually enjoying May Allah guide us all this is very alarming
I can't believe bollywood glorifying this thing fr 🗿🗿
I mean that's Bollywood for you 🤷♀️
So sonakshis' role was real😅😅😅
this song has powerful impact
So true. ❤️
What do you think guys 🤔 if they were ugly...then the nawabs would have wasted their money on these women ?? Infact they were talented singers and dancers and source of entertainment in that era...this is my guess 😉 Anyways i watched Heera Mandi and enjoyed it ❤ i respect the women who took part in the freedom struggle, whatever they maybe 😍
Heeramandi evolution from High standard to Super Low Standards.. 😢
एक दो फोटो भंसाली को भेज़ दो भाई 😂😂
Bollywood glamour does not describe their reality.❤
People do not realize how they really ended up there. There are so many girls who were abducted from their families. They would have lost their innocence from a really young age. World is cruel. Look beyond women’s body. Society need to change. Do better than your ancestors.
Do something good for this society, instead of wasting time in this
They were the part of our society only and instead of giving lecture here why not you do something
ACHA? Tu Kar Le na. Itna bhowkta Kyon Hain?
@@zubaidakhan3795they were part of society, not the society. The series seems to be some fictional nonsense. It neither highlighted their plight nor showed facts.
Boycott Bollywood, they have no respect for the hardship those women faced.
Ladies toh ye sb beautiful h us tym ke hisab se without makeup and all natural beauty
Kuch nasha kiya hai kya tune?
So basically in series they showed the opulence of mughal era diamond bazaar but it was set in 1900z to make relevance to independence movement
It’s after partition
No thats indian DNA😅😅😅😅
@@shabnumshaheen6253wo indians jinke khudke DNA me angrezo ka hath hai 😂
Wahi to ittey garmi majn thodi itta sab mehnge jewellery pehnke ghar pe rehte honge
Pehle k jamane me toh rehte hi the pehen k. Apna status maintain krna padta tha, kaise Raja, Rani heere jewraat pehen k baith the the waise hi yeh v rehti hongi, yeh pictures Jo dikhaya gaya hain yeh toh bohot baad ki photos hain, Independence ki baad ki, is daur tak toh Tawaifon ka daur khatam ho chuka tha, yeh toh red light area ki Kuch jhalki hain, bas.
Bilkul sahi. Sab Bakwas hai Sanjay Leela Bhansali ki picture mei
Now I realized why Bhansali's relative was fit for this role. The look matches 😂
Lol
Bollywood jyada achhe se kregi acting 😂kyuki whi chl rha udhr
Bollywood as same as heera mandi
Your mother must be mallikajaan then
@@SukhneetKaur-cf9ks thats yours may be just chek
@@SukhneetKaur-cf9ks💯❤️👍🏼
You Heartless Monster 🙄 🤮 🚮
@@akshaybasutkar5428
True .
Ok so confirmed that Jamal kudu trend was from our past
72 sal old picture locking so pretty 🥰
i saw my friends grandfather in these photos
Really?
In Bengali we use to call it Baiji khana
Purane time bhi jamal kudu tha??? Kya bat hai.??
झूठ हमेशा सुंदर दिखा है और सच हमेशा बदसूरत शायद इसीलिए लोगों को झूठ से प्यार रहा है और सच से नफरत ।
The worst part about the series is its too far away from the reality of heera mandi.
Exactly. That's the whole point.