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When I was working at Harley we had this issue with a handful of bikes. Dunlop released a bad batch of tires that we had to be replaced. People don't understand just how important tires are on your motorcycle. Properly inflated and maintained tires could be the difference between making it home safe and ending up in the hospital.
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I just saw a discussion talking about different tires on the Fat Bob completely changing how the bike corners. I think they mentioned Dunlop too
I was told by the dealer that regardless how new your vehicle is weather bike or car you should check the manufacturer date of the tire. Every tire has one. Just like you said the vehicle could be brand new and just sitting and the rubber starts to wear. I was told anything over 5 years should be changed.
Thanks for the info!
Def at five years, check the condition after even a year of no use.
Shoot, one season is enough to check condition.
I check before each ride ~ not thoroughly but I def check
I’m glad Indian back up their product, I really really like their brand and costumer service 🤙🏽
Great customer service. That's always a huge plus in my book. I would say that geometry coupled with that frame would make the bike more sensitive to and possibly magnify any tire issues. It's an awesome looking machine and I'm glad you didn't have to return it.
I totally agree!
Rob this was a problem when the challenger came out using the Metzler tires. There is something with that type of tire that it happens on the challenger using that specific tire. I was the service Manager and we had to replace multiple tires on the challengers. Glad you caught it in time.
Metzler tires are pretty bad, I've only had problems with them
@@aliasfakename2267 While I was traveling around in Vegas I got a flat. I have a Street Glide Special and the only tires that were available in my size were Metzler tires.... and I felt a horrible wobble immediately after. Especially when turning. I kept pulling over thinking maybe the PSI was low or possibly I had gotten a flat again. By the time I arrived home in CA I went to have new tires installed. I normally use Michelin Commander III tires. And once the new tires were on....no more issues!
Thank you very much! And thanks for sharing that information brother!
@@texcalitWow that’s so interesting.
@@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle put Commander III's on that bike and you'll be fine!! Known issue, along with Battery Issues...
Thank you Rob, for getting this problem on the table. Seems to me that this is an issue that can happen to anyone, independent from what brand of motorcycle one rides! Tyres are very important, they're the contact between you and your motorcycle and the road. Worth checking once in a while. I wish you lots of happy miles on that nice looking Indian! Greetings from The Netherlands!👍😎
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I’m glad you’re okay Rob. Haven’t experienced that when I had the Challenger. As always ride safe😎🙏🏾
Thank you very much!
One of the most important things I learned when taking the course at Harley… turn your head and look straight, look down and the bike will follow
It’s not just challenger’s my 2023 Springfield darkhorse is doing it as well but thank you for finally bringing this problem to light 🙏🏼
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What brand and model tire is it.
@@robertbalzer4125 cruisetec
Man, you are lucky. Not many dealerships would have gone the extra mile to resolve your problem. Most of us would have gotten the famous "we can't find the problem, good luck!".
Tell that manager at Indian of Savanah that I'll be buying my Indian from his dealership....as soon as I hit the lottery!
Good luck 🤞
I have never had this happen with Indian... Now the other brand... Yes..
Will do! They do a pretty good job in that category.
Hey Robert, this is Craig from California, how are you doing. I see you keeping it loaded. I’ve been good and doing my best to stay upright out here in these streets. By the grace of God we good! Always practicing and just wanted to say hello. Stay safe!
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Glad to hear you didn't have to return this bike, I'm really looking forward to YOUR review
Thank you very much!
Sounds like something that everyone with a new bike needs to check
Harley especially!
@@yuppy1967 why Harley especially? Sounds like an Indian problem, but Indian doesn't make tires....neither does Harley
It seems to be a Metzler tire issue from what I'm hearing and what I've witnessed. Metzler is the stock tire on challengers and pursuits. I had a Kawasaki Vaquero, also a heavy, fixed fairing bagger. When it needed tires I put the Metzlers on and it did that shimmy shake. It's very unsettling. Always check your tire pressure, helps prevent cupping of the tire on these heavy bikes.
Over 6000 miles on my Pursuit DH Premium Icon and we're G2G.
I agree.
@@RidingandWrenching I had experienced a similar issue with my 2020 Harley Ultra. once the tire was changed, it went away. So i think maybe this issue goes to how these dealers transport/store the bikes or the lack of tire rotation, especially on a bike that weighs in at almost 1000 lb.
Same thing happened to my 2015 Ultra Limited last year. I had both tires replaced this spring and the problem went away. The wobble would always happen when I would let off the gas above 40 mph. Hope you enjoyed Milwaukee. My home dealership is the House of Harley. Service department there is great.
I did enjoy it. Thanks! That dealership was impressive!
Well I'm glad you're safe Lieutenant Simmons and thank you for telling everyone, I don't own an Indian I have a Victory Magnum and this thing is running smoothly.
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My Challenger has done this with a well worn front tire... it had started cupping and it was the cause of the instability at 45-50mph. With hand off the bars it would shimmy like it was trying to start a tank slapper, just as you stated. Replaced the tire with a new CruiseTec and all is fine.
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I knew exactly what the problem was at the start of your video as I had the same problem on a '99 Honda ST 1100 . The front tire was cupped . This is caused by sitting for a prolonged time ,but mainly not keeping tires inflated as they should be . New tire fixed my problem just as it did yours. Thanks for posting this information. this can happen on any motorcycle I believe.
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Tires are so critical. When I bought my 2008 Heritage, I made the dealer check the tire codes even though they looked new and the bike only had 16,000 miles on it. They ended up putting brand new tires on for me. Within a week, on the third ride, my rear tire tube blew out. I was told they put the wrong size tube in the tire, and it was a tire tube that was known to blow. They refused to help me and said I didn't have any warranty. Dunlop wouldn't help, since the wrong size tube was used.
Good thing I didn't get killed. I thought if I bought a used bike from a Harley dealer that I would feel safe. I never had any problems with the bikes I purchased from private sales. Danbury Harley-Davidson lost my business, and my brother will never buy another bike from them either. He has purchased two Ultra Limited bikes from them in the past.
I'm glad you figured out the problem, Robert!
Wow! Thank you very much!
Love your channel. Got hit by the motorcycle bug about 2 months. Long and short, I purchased a 2022 Fatboy. Low mileage. Had a dirt bike many years ago. Started watching your videos and have been more than helpful. Have only had bike about 3 weeks and been practicing at a close by school lot. Live down here in Camden county Ga. Headed to the Harley riding school in 2 weeks in Savannah. Thank you soooo much for your instructions. Maybe make it up to Pooler one day for some lessons🎹🎷🎸🎤😀
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You almost have to make it your business to come to Pooler for a session. You’re so close!
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Happy you are OK and was able to help others identify the problem. I did what you said about setting the cruis control at 40, 50, up to 70. I had a similar wobble but not as bad as you described. I just took my Pursuit D-H Premium back to the dealer to get serviced. Thanks for the information.
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Picked up a new 23 Pursuit premium at Sturgis last week and it has this same issue. I only rode it 11 miles from the dealer to camp to trailer it back 700 miles home with my vendor gear. Didn't notice it till the first ride this week when I got back. Already on the issue with local dealer and see if we can get new tire on. Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy!
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Thank you for posting this. I thought I was losing my mind with my 2022 Challenger. I had 4700 blissful miles until the dealer replaced both tires due to a sudden groaning noise that sounded like bearings. It was a moan/groan. The tires were covered at 4700 miles. I get the bike back, and this is what exactly what I have experienced since. Took it back after 50 miles to be told they did not feel anything. Rode it home, found the wobble not as bad, however, still there and a little concerning. Took a video, emailed it to them and waiting to hear back (they are closed for the next 2 days). It is going back until corrected.
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Glad to hear you had the problem corrected & reached out to others to make them aware of the same issue. Your Pursuit is absolutely gorgeous
Thank you very much!
Thanks for sharing!
Never had a problem with my 2021 Challenger DH but I know for a fact that this issue has been occurring since the 2020 Challengers.
Before right now, I’ve never heard of the fix.
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Robert, Good info. Glad you did the analysis, talked with techs & engineers, and got the right answer. Who would have known? Good thing they didn't push you off with no resolution. I for one can tell you my experience with Indian/Polaris. My 2014 Indian Vintage engine cut off shortly after starting, over & over again, months after I bought it from a private party. I took it to my local dealer, Boston Indian, actually in Revere, Ma. Lots of Indian owners aren't so fortunate since dealers are spaced far apart. So they came back with good news: "It's covered". It was a factory defect on the ECM, the electric control module. Fortunately for me I went to the dealer who was aware of the issue. Unfortunately for those who buy used, Polaris does not (or can not) seek out 2nd owners to send a 'notice recall'. I later found the Indian recall & reposted it on an Indian owners internet facebook site to let others know about this real, known issue. I am so glad you too are concerned about bike owners and take the time to make issues heard. thanx.
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I have the same (exact) motorcycle. I had the same problem with the wobble at 40 mph, when my hands were not on the grips. I thought it was because of the Aftermarket (KST) handle bars. After I checked the TP, it was less than 38. I still have the same front tire, at 12K miles, I had to replace the rear tire. Unfortunately, I was stuck in Tampa, on a Sunday, the only place available with a tire, was a Harley rear tire. :( so far, so good.
Future Challenger/Pursuit owner just subscribed, I practice slow speed maneuvers, locking and scraping. I had this issue with my 2004 Vulcan and it was the tires. They mixed radial with bi ply and it would shake at high speeds. Very scary. Make sure you get the right tires. And good ones.
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Woaw! Sounds like a scary experience to have ! I'm happy for you it didn't get too far 🙏. Also, interesting to see the dealership immediately behaved right. Nice warning for the affected Indian owners
Absolutely!
I had the same problem on an F6B with, I think a Dunlop. New tire I put on my tour has a wee shimmy to it, but not too bad. Pay attention to your front tire if is shimmies like that, no matter what bike.
Thanks Robert. I did this test today on my 2023 Pursuit after getting my 500 mile service done and the Handlebars shook violently. The guys over at Indian OC here in CA told me to bring it back and they will take care of it. Thanks Again for this video. I’m sure that I might not have never known about this issue had it not been for this vid. :)
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Wow glad it worked out Robert Good to know the dealer had your back. Be safe sir.
Thank you very much!
i dont know why anybody would except any vehicle with low profile tiers. Its a good way to get your rim broke, tier patch is smaller in tight fast corners, and they don't mount well.
I had a set of Metzler tires on my 09 street glide did the same thing. at the dealer they told me low air pressure however, I check my air pressure regularly and I also inspect my drive belt for damage regular basis. One time I found a hole right in the middle of the drive belt. I think a stone went between my sprocket and the belt. It’s important. Good job on the video Rob I enjoy watching your stuff.
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Same fix for Harley wobble. Check the date on those tires. Even new ones.
Good info, that same thing happened to my Harley. You are correct a lot of these tires may be new to teh road but not brand new.
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I work for one of the big three. I always change my factory tires on newer cars that I owned. In the past 30 years because some of those tires sit around the tire manufacturer and are bought in bulk . I say always check the date on the tires when they’re manufactured and the rating of customers reviews for each set of tires .
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My son just had a brand new Dunlop delaminate on the front of a Harley he was mounting it on for a customer. Glad it happened on the test ride and not to the customer! He safely limped it back to the shop.
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Great video and good to know! I have a Pursuit Limited Premium and haven't had that issue. Mine is with the clutch and throttle. I used to have a Vintage and didn't have a problem letting the clutch out in first gear and killing it but my Pursuit has stalled out several times. I start to feel then give it a little more throttle but shouldn't have to do that. Planning on getting that looked at soon.
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Yes have that looked at. 👍🏾
I have a 2022 Pursuit Limited that I purchased in September and have had no problems that I've noticed until recently.
Upon getting close to my 5000-mile service, I had my cruise set at 35 mph and removed both of my hands from the bars to adjust my helmet, and I got the violent shaking you're talking about.
While I had it in for the service, it was on the list of the 2 things that I wanted to have checked out. Unfortunately, the technician didn't ride it before he started the service. As I was getting my keys and paying the bill, the technician stopped for a quick talk and told me that he thought it had to do with the fixed fairing and low tire pressure. I keep a constant eye on the air pressure with the TPMS on the ride command, and it was only down 2 lbs.
I also had a Vetter fixed fairing back in the early 80s, and it never shook no matter the speed or air pressure.
It's my belief that there is a problem with the tire. Unfortunately, the dealer that I use is understaffed and always in a hurry. I intend to keep riding it until it gets worse, and then I'll take it back again. Now that there's a record of it and I have the tire warranty, any other problem should be covered.
Don’t wait. A problem has been identified. Take it back and have it resolved.
I love how everyone is having a cow about DOT numbers and the age of tires even though that had nothing to do with your issue. I’ve bought tires 5 years left over new with no issue and have ridden with tires that were 15 years old with no issue.
A poorly stored or long term stored tire can exhibit characteristics that aren’t friendly but often times with use will work themselves out. Nice that the dealer replaced the tire for you.
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It did the same thing on my 2023 Roadmaster. It IS a Metzler tire problem. We put a Dunlop on mine. Problem solved!! Great video!
Thank you very much!
It's not just the Indian pursuit. I bought a sports bike brand new and they shipped it to me and it had a violent shake or vibration. I inspected the front tire and it had 2 indents or bubbles in the front tire. When they shipped the bike they strapped it down massively on a metal rack and shipping type metal container, and it was strapped down so tight that it put 2 indents in the tire.
This happens and is a known issue with the 5th Gen Honda Goldwings too. I had a bad front shake but once I switched to a brand new tire the head shake disappeared.
My 2019 Goldwing DCT does the same thing, I had a new tire installed last year and it went away, however, after wear and use of the tire, it has returned. Not sure why, but, must be something to do with the cupping and how the tire wears on my bike. I've just learned to live with it not let pressure off the bars at 40 and below. Maybe the balancing plates they make for my bike would eliminate the issue with tire wear.
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I had done a demo ride on a Pursuit in June. Half of the ride was in the 40-45mph range. No shaking. Metzeler makes tires in Mexico and Germany. I do remember Harley guys in the 2000s with the Mexico made tires. So this causes me to ask. Were the tires made in Mexico?
Good thing you are sharing this!! Indian owners take notice! Thank you for looking out for Indian owners safety!!
Absolutely!!
I'm with you - one of the 150 who purchased the 2023 Pursuit Elite. It has the wobble and I researched and found your video. Thanks. Problem I have had is the dealer is oblivious and told me that this is just something this model does! I asked them how they basically blamed design flaw and asked how they came to that conclusion. I was told they test rode their other Pursuits and compared!!! I called Polaris and they told me it was the tire and they were contacting the dealer to get them to change out the tire. I will give the dealership some hell AFTER they correct the problem. Fingers crossed this fixes the wobble for my bike. Otherwise, I love my Pursuit but can't understand why Indian hasn't issued something proactively especially given this is among the most expensive models they offer. I have owned a Victory CCT, Indian Roadmaster 2016 and now this Pursuit. My loyality is shaken not because this has happened but in the way it's being handled.
That’s terrible! The tire is the fix as long as they don’t get it from a bad batch. They should have been calling Polaris, not you! Let me know how it turns out please via email. Info@bethebossofyourmotorcycle.com
We're u able to get the issue resolved?
My 2018 Honda Goldwing DCT Tour also had the same issue due to the tire. I even had Centramatic wheel balancers installed.
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Seems like they need to have a recall for this issue. I'm glad you identified it, and they are getting it resolved for you. All Indian customers deserve the same result.
Agreed
Recalls are for problems with actual mechanical, electrical or electronic components of the bike itself not tires. Indian/Polaris does not manufacture tires. Recalls are for issues like the high speed wobble brand new 2024 Harleys are having because of a flaw in the design of the bike or software issues with the ECM like new 2024 Harleys are having.
Thanks for this info. I ride an Indian bagger too. Not the same model but it’s good to know service had you
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Wow. Had same thing happen to me on my 21 challenger when I changed my tires. I was on the road going across to west coast so was thousands of miles from home. And happened on a Sunday so no dealer open.. when I took to dealer in California it wasn't happening again. Dealer had no clue as to what it could be.. hasn't happened again but now I'm aware of what it was. And this occurred with Metzlers.. THANK YOU for info. Glad you got resolved and good..
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This same think was happening on My Goldwing. Same resolution as well!
Thanks for the information. I have a 2022 Pursuit. Thus far I’ve not experienced this issue , however I’ll do that test you spoke of. Thanks again. 👍
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Let us know the results of your test please. 👍🏾
So I have a Harley CVO limited. Same problem whenever you got off the gas and it got down to between 40 and 30 mile an hour front end with shake. Took it back three times kept screwing up the front tires had to change tires every 4000 miles finally I switch dealership . They took the front end apart in the bearings are bad and it’s a Rushmore bike so you cannot grease the bearings in the triple trees. I took it to the right people. They took it apart and bearings I got new ones and I run the Dina beads in the front tires. It’s pretty solid, but I did upgrade my suspension to Legend’s front cartridges coil overs in the rear and the bikes never been as good as it is now. I thought with them for couple years the worst tires would wear, and I Road trips, long distance, heavy two up. At the time the bike was $45,000 so Harley does not buy them back. Certain dealerships do not want to fix them under warranty. You have to fight. I’ll finish watching your video now enjoy them but I just had to chime in on this.
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Thankyou for sharing ! I love my 2019 Harley RGS I never had that kind of problem, but Indian does alot for performance in their bikes, I do love the classic style of Springfield !
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So happy the issue was rectified
Thanks brother!
I was gonna say tire!. anyways would be the starting point for troubleshooting. bearings etc yeah, but pressure/wear?. an u get a bad tire here n there made it thru final QA an shipped. Note: new tires need 100miles break in before u start leaning good on em. and shows u if u leave bikes sitting for long periods like cars u get a flat spot. if it wobbles at a certain speed- weights/bent. if it wobbles at low speed thats a flat spot it smoothes out the faster u go. they threw that tire away, u cant fix that. u can prevent it by several means.
theres no hits against Indian, they got it pretty quick. and now they'll know u did good to put this out. tires fellas! 1st thing on pre-flight check!.
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That's great they took care of you and your bike! I have to wonder if they would treat everyone the same or if they gave you better treatment due to your popularity on social media. Just a thought. Thanks for bringing that issue to light.
They are pretty good there at taking care of the customers.
I have a Kawasaki Voyager and put brand new tires on and the same thing happened. Changed the front tire and the wobble was gone. I think they're having widespread issues with tires in general.
People are quick to tear apart a bike because of the brand, but its a machine and are all susceptable to mechanicsl flaws. How they are adressed by dealer and company is the key.
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Had the same issue with my 2018 tiger 1200 new tires fixed the issues also, crazy part was it was my 3rd set of tires that did this.
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Robert, you are 100% correct. I have a 2020 Indian Challenger and mine does the same thing around 40 mph, the death wobble and it wobbles violently. Glad you're putting this out. Indian / Polaris needs to correct this immediately.
Let us know if your customer service experience goes as well.
@@jamesfranks545 looks like Indian is recalling some of their bikes because of this issue.
BigDuke Were your tires the Metzlers from indian?
@@Dcruznontwos yup
Thanks for the update! Love my 22 Pursuit! Best bike I have ever owned 11 that is. No issues for me so far.
Good to hear!
I have this with my Ultra Limited ‘21 at the first testride. They change both tires and problem was solved…. And still is after 8000km
A brother of mine had the same thing happen to him and his challenger. He said he noticed it after he had the tour pack installed on it. He told me the same issue at 40 mph.
Wow! Thanks for sharing!👍🏾
You can check how old your tire is by looking at the code on the sidewall.
Date code on tire will be 4 digits. WWYY - week and year the tire was manufactured.
52 weeks in a year.
01-20 will be the beginning of the year.
22-30 will be the middle of the year.
31-52 will be the end of the year.
For instance, 0517; would be the beginning of 2017.
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Helpful info, thank you.
@@thejerseyj5479 Glad I could help!
What a beautiful motorcycle. That back seat looks sooooo comfortable
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This happened 2 my brand new 2023 Pursuit Dark Horse Premium & after the 2nd trip back 2 the dealer, they actually make a reinforced front tire specifically 4 bikes with this problem. So far so good with new front tire after 2 months of bull dealing with Polaris, but they did make it right.
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Whats the name of the tire so I can go get it?
@@defrowe981 It's a Metzler Reinforced Front tire
This is a known issue due to a batch of bad tires. I received my Pursuit Elite June 1, 2023, and have never had this issue. The dealership should have replaced the front tire at no charge.
They did.
Great video appreciate it. I have a 22 pursuit and a 22 Springfield. Welcome from Naples fl
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This channel is so informative! I'm going to check for this on my Challenger. Thanks!
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The tire 🛞 Wow!!!!!
Yeah, I was about to say it was the tire. Glad that it worked out. Can't wait to see the video.
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Same issue on my 2022 Challenger Elite... I was a front tire also, it should be a recall. Indian replaced it for free, problem went away.
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my new 23 Pursuit doesnt seem to have this problem.. My 20 challenger i bought beginning of 21 did, at around 70 kph. Now, i have seen videos where owners had it happen very violently like you say, well on mine it was sort of mid range.. not aggressive but not lightly either.
Didnt really bother with it as my 20 had other issues as well, so i got rid of the bike asap, traded it in for my new pursuit and couldnt be happier.
One thing to ask, check your diagnostics sometimes. Mine and my clubmembers pursuit here in Belgium both have it from time to time: an "unknown" error will pop up.. my dealer doesnt know what it is yet and i have seen other owners on facebook groups reporting the same code
It's most likely the steering head bearing adjustment. Yes you can change the tire but later on if it returns make sure the head bearings are adjusted corrected. Most people don't know how to do this adjustment and without exception changing the tire fixes the problem at least for a while but it will return is most cases. MC front tires scuff a lot and usually wear uneven and its hard to see...
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My 2018 Harley-Davidson road glide did the same thing when I bought it back in 2018 the solution was the same (replaced with a new tire) after they checked out the entire front end.
2024 Elite Challenger I had same problem changed front tire problem solved.. thx for video
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Great explanation and thoughtfully put together. 110% what you said about the customer service experience when something isn't right!!
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Such a beautiful bike. I am a Wing rider and don't care for that looks much, but Indian is killing it good. I have the same issue with mine. Going to replace the front very soon.
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I have a Chieftain. When I was getting my first service.. I was chatting with a guy who was having his Challenger looked at for the same thing. His challenger was set up like a Pursuit tho. He said he brought it back to the dealer 4 times and they can't figure it out. He was at the point where he wanted his old Roadmaster back.. and wanted Indian to take his Challenger back as a lemon.
Wow!
Excellent video I don't have an Indian Pursuit but I have a Honda Goldwing 2002 and it does the same thing
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had a 2014 Goldwing same thing 35 mph take hands off handle bars it did the funky chicken scary
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I had the same problem with my 2017 Ultra Limited. Between speeds 30-35mph it would shake violently. Dealer checked entire bike to find the front tire was out of round. Dunlap had a batch of bad tires. Dealer did right by replacing it at no charge to me.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
I have a 22 challenger. I've felt a wobble on acceleration since it was new 13k on it. Dealer nearest me doesn't want to acknowledge or fix it!
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I have 100,000's of miles on various bikes and I run cheap tires and never had a problem with them. But then I don't have a 1,000 lbs motorcycle.
I had a BMW K-1600 GT. If you are driving straight and take you hands off the handlebars, the bike drifts left. I put 10 pounds in the right bag and it was better but still there. Typical of BMW, they told me that many have written about this but then did nothing about it. changed tires and no change. I also had a brand new R1200RT that cut out when shifting into 2nd gear intermittently. Again, they did nothing about it. No more BMWs for me... Great bike but the BMW company has poor support for big issues. Harley and Honda have been the only trouble free bikes I ever rode. After 32 motorcycles in my tenure, I went back to HD Ultra
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the tire replacment is interesting. it does make me question gear to rpm ratio. I have seen people post videos on a headshake going around corners but if you zoom in on the rpms.. they were screaming and that alone would cause issues. either way... these new bikes are nice.
Glad u found the issue brother! Me I wish I can ride mine…haven’t ridden in 5 weeks…don’t have the time
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Its not a big problem with your Indian Persuit..... Its a tire issue. At first I wasn't going to check out the video because I thought it was another one of those Brand bashing videos. But thanks for the info on the tires man. It may save someone's life.
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OEM Tires are just like most parts on the bike....they're spec'd for the buyer (who buys them by the truck load)....many auto manufacturers will have XYZ Brand and Model tires...they may or may not be the same as the BRAND TIRE in construction or quality. i.e. I had a Toyota that a model designation MODIFIER after the standard BRAND name/Number. i.e. TIRE BRAND 101B.....and when I had the tires changed the tire shop asked if I wanted the same brand...I said "Hell no...these are terrible"...and it was one of his preferred brand and models he suggested....he showed me this. I worked in retail as a kid and down the line in all brands there are "models" that look the same but vary greatly in quality. Nike may have 4 shoes that look the same until you get down to the construction....Sewn and reinforced Tennis shoe vs. a Glued and flimsy shoe for fashion. i.e. Footlocker may sell the TENNIS VERSION for $100 and Kohls Sells the FASHION VERSION for $50.....it's the same with tires. The "Storage" could 100% also be an issue. If they were stacked and stored improperly it could have warped or deformed and never recovered, also plausible. I still think the likely answer is INDIAN Spec'd a tire to a PRICE and the Manufacturers met that price by cutting some corner.
Thank you for being honest and giving us this very Important
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Beautiful bikes but definitely scary. Lack of dealership's and service facilities, and Polaris are what's stopping me from riding Indian.
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Off subject comment That’s a beautiful motorcycle! The motor in it is the best looking in the industry
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Glad it worked out for you without incident Robert. What tires do those Indian Pursuits have on them? Just curious..
Thank you very much! Metzeler.
I was very excited to change my harley rd glide for the indian, I think I'll let them review it better and wait for more review.
I made the same trade. I don't miss the Road Glide Special with the 114 motor. It was slow and the bike is top heavy. Harley Davidson service department rates are exorbitantly high.
Tire age, storage, and how they ship them? Installed on a high-end new bike? Seems suspicious. It sounds like Metzeler produced a batch of defective tires, maybe a lot of them, and they are hoping customers won't notice this wobble and need to replace tires under warrantee. If the dealer balanced them and they checked out ok then it seems to me that the rubber compounding itself was defective. Makes one wonder how many bad tires we are riding on, and how other performance could be affected beyond the wobble.
At least it was an easy fix and not a design problem. Thanks for the information.
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Yes yes yes. Mine was fine until I change the front tire on it after the new tire was put on it start doing that 40 mile-an-hour shimmy took the tire off put another brand new tire on it and it corrected it. There's a problem with Metzeler cruisetec Tires. I put 50 miles on the tire Mesler wooden warranty the tire so beware that
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