David Pagan Butler introduces natural swimming pools: beautiful swimming ponds that require no chemicals, just plants and a simple solar powered filter pump to clean the water.
Over the past twenty years many hundreds of these pools have been created in Germany and Austria. If there were any health issues they would have appeared by now. On the other hand, it is well documented that swimming in chlorinated pools or even the sea has significant risks. Of course if you want a risk free life - don't swim at all and keep your clothes on.
You can drink this pond water! I have just had the water in this pool tested by the labs at South Coast Water. It meets (and exceeds) UK drinking water standards.
This is a beautiful and stylish alternative to the unpleasantly bright blue, chlorinated pools that you find in hotels and leisure centres. If you think those pools are clean you are so very wrong, that's why they have to keep chlorinating them! I'd rather swim with frogs any day. (And there aren't any snapping turtles/deadly snakes/alligators in the UK, we're very lucky like that)
Snakes do not live in water. There are deterents to keeping them another creatures away. Learn what kind of a snake is around, they are usually there to eat. Get rid of the food source and get rid of them.
Reading through the comments, it's clear there is a fair amount of ignorance about the benefits of using natural methods for water purification, instead of disinfectants such as chlorine. But first off, with regard to bacteria, let's remember that your body mass is about 3% bacteria, and without them you wouldn't survive very long, as commensal ("normal") bacteria play a key role in many physiological functions, such as immunity and digestion. Each cell in our body is powered by little bacteria called mitochondria that maintain their own separate DNA. In many respects we ARE bacteria, and in the age of superbugs, we need to develop technologies that address issues such as disinfection like an ecological problem, rather than a "us or them" mentality. We are only harming ourselves, in the end. As for the use of chlorine, chloramine, and other synthetic/chemical disinfectants, research has clearly demonstrated that these highly reactive compounds bind with natural chemicals to create a new class of "disinfection by-products" that we know very little about, except that most of the few that have been studied have been shown to be carcinogens and/or endocrine disruptants. We need to remember that we are a part of nature, and it doesn't make sense to be a afraid of it. Using natural methods to purify the environment, called bioremediation, is a well-established practice within industry, although it is way under-utilized. For e.g., plants such as vetiver grass are used to take up and metabolize toxic metals from industrial sites. With bioremediation, we can even turn raw sewage into potable water, using a simple system of tanks, each with its own unique ecosystem of bacteria, algae, plants, snails and fish to purify the water. In the future - if humanity has one here on earth - we will be forced to learn how to work with nature, instead of against it. To learn at her knee instead of with a knife held to her throat, using these lessons to our best advantage.
In fact we are 90% bacteria by cell count and 99% bacteria by DNA count.. both of which are much more significant that mass which has little biological effect.. and that's only what we know of so far and NOT including mitochondria.. which are as human as anything is.. It's a similar thing with water.. People are always sating that we are 70% water.. which is true by mass.. again little to no biological significance .. Since water is an extremely small molecule especially compared to DNA, proteins, carbohydrates etc at an atomic count we are almost entirely water..
I like the idea, I like it quite a bit but even though your video was quite informative on how you make the actual pool, you are not so specific on how the circulator works. How is the pool maintained, do plants and animals die off during winter time, have you had issues with snakes, where did you obtain the plant and animals for it and what is the recipe for them, when I say recipe I mean, which plants and animals should we get for it and where, do the animals over breed and start starving?
Nice to get back here again . My pool is in the middle , size wise . I like the idea of natural stuff. Tired of paying $30 /month for chlorine . Had a plan of the overflow from koi pond , goes through bog garden , into pool . Have tanks , so not short of water . The pond plan is cool , nice to have the bats back at night . I could raise the height of the paving around the pool . Then how to get around it ? am going off grid , daytime power not an issue . $360 /year for just chlorine ? Time for tanks .
@@Laughlines71 For mosquitos yes. However, I'm not sure that the bubble aerators are capable of circulating the entire volume of water. The water at the bottom of the swimming zone appears to remain undisturbed and stale.
This is definitely thinking out of the box, very creative, so compassionate to the environment, a genius design. In the US, I’m not sure if laws allow such a build. In Florida, we many get Alligators and alligator Gars, and water moccasins. How do you know what is in your pond? To hear that this is designed not to hurt even a frog is amazing. I can see this pool is a lot more fun to swim in it!
Great video David. Love your ponds. I have a very well established nature pond that I'd love to turn into a dual nature / swimming pond but wouldn't know where to start. The nature pond as it is is literally teaming with life - newts, crusties, snails, plus of course dragonflies, butterflies, etc and shedloads of plants. Water quality is great and very clear, no pongs. However my lot are reticent at best when it comes to swimming in it. Not sure I blame them either. Is it a state of mind thing or a water thing? Would love to hear your experienced views.
Hello, I have watched your video many times. Now I have finally decided to build a small swimmable pond in my garden. Like you I will attempt to do this myself. The space I have is 4m by 6m do you think this is possible. Do I need to to add some kind of pump to help circulate the water?
great idea, looks beautiful. especially being natural. would this idea work in a country with a thriving mosquito population???? or what adaptations would we have to make if any??? thank you
You could add some fish and it might work, there is a fish species which eats up the mosquito carrying malaria, I don't remember the name of the species though. This pool looks like an awesome idea though.
My grandfather built a pond on his farm. They used to swim in it. Then it got massive amounts of snapping turtles in it. So they stopped swimming in it.
This is brilliant, I hate chemical pools and love river/pond swimming. I am very inspired and Will build one of these but it wont be in the U.K. I'm planing to do one of these natural swimming pools in and equatorial location, to be precise they seychelles. Do you think the high temp and 12hrs of sun year round will be a major prob regarding algae if I have a similar filter system in place? Great video hope to see some more green projects from yourself! all the best for now
In response to DanielDaniel1's comment, this pool isn't likely to kill you at all! Please don't take his comment seriously as he clearly didn't know any better.
@davidpaganbutler This is brilliant, I hate chemical pools and love river/pond swimming. I am very inspired and Will build one of these but it wont be in the U.K. I'm planing to do one of these natural swimming pools in and equatorial location, to be precise they seychelles. Do you think the high temp and 12hrs of sun year round will be a major prob regarding algae if I have a similar filter system in place? Great video hope to see some more green projects from yourself! all the best for now
The amount of city-folk who ain't never swam in a pond is too damn high! Seriously you guys, man the funk up, this water is more of less like lake water since it's being recycled/cleaned semi-regularly.
Except a natural lake is huge which is how it cleans water - with many many plants - and this is a far smaller footprint you can design into a large garden...
@@PermacultureMagazine I am putting a swim pond in my back yard here in the USA. We do have a few venimis snakes, but I am putting up a 6ft. privacy fence, treated with chemicals and a little grease to keep them away. You have to know your kind, but be smart. Moth balls keeps snakes away with cinnamon, clove and peppermint oil mixed in water and sprayed around the fence. Critters don't like that. Food supply, you have to get rid of as well, like frogs, the snakes won't come. Don't keep it too weedy around the swimming area, just off to the sides. Air in the pond keep it clean and fish. Best to make a couple of filters. Fish eat mosquito larvae, if you keep it clean, you shouldn't have problem. There is spray you can get to treat the lawns and kill off the bugs. If you want a paradise, you have to work for it.
Hi David, I would like to duplicate your natural swimming pool that's featured in your video,on my property in Thailand. How can I get from you,step by step instructions,materials needed etc. Hoping you can help. Regards Dave.
You have to stock ponds. Wild life places will do it for free. You can also eat the fish. Being this is what the government has led up to do. Blue gill and sun perch is good.
Jeez, someones a bit of a party pooper. Didn't you ever go swimming in any creeks or lakes as a kid without worrying that you might get sick because all the icky wildlife hasn't been exterminated with chlorine? Unless you keep it filthy and stagnant (which this pond certainly is not, the water is constantly being recirculated) and live in the tropics you don't really have anything to worry about.
Frogs and dragonflies that are attracted to the plants eat mosquito larvae. I wouldn't do this in Florida, but I live in high mountain desert. We have rattlesnakes and they don't care for water, they want heat.
Over the past twenty years many hundreds of these pools have been created in Germany and Austria. If there were any health issues they would have appeared by now. On the other hand, it is well documented that swimming in chlorinated pools or even the sea has significant risks.
Of course if you want a risk free life - don't swim at all and keep your clothes on.
Well said
Lmao
What risks are swimming in the sea? Dangerous tides, etc.? Just be sensible. The salts in the sea are very good for you.
@@savedfaves In the UK dangerous levels of sewage and nitrates are routinely discharged, making people ill.
You can drink this pond water! I have just had the water in this pool tested by the labs at South Coast Water. It meets (and exceeds) UK drinking water standards.
Yeah, today... but for real dont drink it.
@@rgriffith6476what you talking about?
I'm a plant freak and just love making look natural, and the amazing diversity of insects and wild life. Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
It is so heartening to see such enthusiasm for these pools!
Out of all the videos on youtube on natural/organic pools, i think yours are the best. Thumbs up!
This is a beautiful and stylish alternative to the unpleasantly bright blue, chlorinated pools that you find in hotels and leisure centres. If you think those pools are clean you are so very wrong, that's why they have to keep chlorinating them! I'd rather swim with frogs any day.
(And there aren't any snapping turtles/deadly snakes/alligators in the UK, we're very lucky like that)
Snakes do not live in water. There are deterents to keeping them another creatures away. Learn what kind of a snake is around, they are usually there to eat. Get rid of the food source and get rid of them.
Chlorinated water stings the crap out of my eyes.
Wonderful idea. I only wish I had of seen this 12 years ago when I put my pool in. Perhaps in the next house.
Reading through the comments, it's clear there is a fair amount of ignorance about the benefits of using natural methods for water purification, instead of disinfectants such as chlorine.
But first off, with regard to bacteria, let's remember that your body mass is about 3% bacteria, and without them you wouldn't survive very long, as commensal ("normal") bacteria play a key role in many physiological functions, such as immunity and digestion. Each cell in our body is powered by little bacteria called mitochondria that maintain their own separate DNA. In many respects we ARE bacteria, and in the age of superbugs, we need to develop technologies that address issues such as disinfection like an ecological problem, rather than a "us or them" mentality. We are only harming ourselves, in the end.
As for the use of chlorine, chloramine, and other synthetic/chemical disinfectants, research has clearly demonstrated that these highly reactive compounds bind with natural chemicals to create a new class of "disinfection by-products" that we know very little about, except that most of the few that have been studied have been shown to be carcinogens and/or endocrine disruptants.
We need to remember that we are a part of nature, and it doesn't make sense to be a afraid of it. Using natural methods to purify the environment, called bioremediation, is a well-established practice within industry, although it is way under-utilized. For e.g., plants such as vetiver grass are used to take up and metabolize toxic metals from industrial sites. With bioremediation, we can even turn raw sewage into potable water, using a simple system of tanks, each with its own unique ecosystem of bacteria, algae, plants, snails and fish to purify the water.
In the future - if humanity has one here on earth - we will be forced to learn how to work with nature, instead of against it. To learn at her knee instead of with a knife held to her throat, using these lessons to our best advantage.
Hello, is the guide on building the pools still available? The link in description is broken. Thanks!
In fact we are 90% bacteria by cell count and 99% bacteria by DNA count.. both of which are much more significant that mass which has little biological effect.. and that's only what we know of so far and NOT including mitochondria.. which are as human as anything is..
It's a similar thing with water.. People are always sating that we are 70% water.. which is true by mass.. again little to no biological significance .. Since water is an extremely small molecule especially compared to DNA, proteins, carbohydrates etc at an atomic count we are almost entirely water..
What about that fungus that grows in warm water and eats your brain ?
Thank you for your comment!
I like the idea, I like it quite a bit but even though your video was quite informative on how you make the actual pool, you are not so specific on how the circulator works. How is the pool maintained, do plants and animals die off during winter time, have you had issues with snakes, where did you obtain the plant and animals for it and what is the recipe for them, when I say recipe I mean, which plants and animals should we get for it and where, do the animals over breed and start starving?
@nbm34 Thank you for such a wonderful response! Your grandchildren would love it! And it is such a lovely way for them to learn about nature.
Nice to get back here again . My pool is in the middle , size wise . I like the idea of natural stuff. Tired of paying $30 /month for chlorine . Had a plan of the overflow from koi pond , goes through bog garden , into pool . Have tanks , so not short of water .
The pond plan is cool , nice to have the bats back at night . I could raise the height of the paving around the pool . Then how to get around it ? am going off grid , daytime power not an issue . $360 /year for just chlorine ? Time for tanks .
Love it! Add a couple of bat houses to clean up the mosquitoes and you got yourself an Eden!
would the aeration of the water discourage mosquito larvae?
@@Laughlines71 For mosquitos yes. However, I'm not sure that the bubble aerators are capable of circulating the entire volume of water. The water at the bottom of the swimming zone appears to remain undisturbed and stale.
Water snake and frog's heaven...👀🎅
I didn't know James May had a brother.
All these people commenting about bacteria never visited a cottage.
It looks great, so natural, that’s what you want👍👍
Nice job, good to see your using the old air lift system.
This is definitely thinking out of the box, very creative, so compassionate to the environment, a genius design. In the US, I’m not sure if laws allow such a build. In Florida, we many get Alligators and alligator Gars, and water moccasins. How do you know what is in your pond? To hear that this is designed not to hurt even a frog is amazing. I can see this pool is a lot more fun to swim in it!
Awesome! I broke out the back hoe and dug out a nice little pond in a couple hours. Cant wait to use some of these ideas. Great video!
wow best man made pool ive seen, great footage, beautiful.
One Love :)
@HappyDancingTurtle Ice is not a problem. Just part of the natural cycle for a pond.
Great! I'll start to build one as soon as i'll arrive in Rio... Thanks for sharing!
Dear Permaculture magazine! What about the mosquito issue? Do you have them or there are not any?
There would be. Be sure to keep the water moving with that system and it should lessen them. They prefer stagnant water, from what I believe.
Waooow you swim good nature is beautiful
Great video David. Love your ponds. I have a very well established nature pond that I'd love to turn into a dual nature / swimming pond but wouldn't know where to start. The nature pond as it is is literally teaming with life - newts, crusties, snails, plus of course dragonflies, butterflies, etc and shedloads of plants. Water quality is great and very clear, no pongs. However my lot are reticent at best when it comes to swimming in it. Not sure I blame them either. Is it a state of mind thing or a water thing? Would love to hear your experienced views.
I love this
Great piece of work there, just fantastic.
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Absolutely magnificent!!
Hello, I have watched your video many times. Now I have finally decided to build a small swimmable pond in my garden. Like you I will attempt to do this myself. The space I have is 4m by 6m do you think this is possible. Do I need to to add some kind of pump to help circulate the water?
Liked what you did here, very nice done video. You were easy to listen to and understand. Thanks:-)
great idea, looks beautiful. especially being natural. would this idea work in a country with a thriving mosquito population???? or what adaptations would we have to make if any??? thank you
Vegan MVP mosquitos need still water, this isnt still water due to the bubble pumps
You could add some fish and it might work, there is a fish species which eats up the mosquito carrying malaria, I don't remember the name of the species though. This pool looks like an awesome idea though.
My grandfather built a pond on his farm. They used to swim in it. Then it got massive amounts of snapping turtles in it. So they stopped swimming in it.
I am turnng my swimming pool nto a pond. I am so excited!!!
did you?
Great job David, I would love one, any problems with them in warmer climate zones ie South Carolina?
It’s nice to see wildlife, frogs and insects using the pool😂
We love the idea of doing something like this in Northern MN (USA). How does the pool handle cold weather and icing-over?
Lovely idea--water boatmen give you a nasty bite though >Thanks for posting
Awesome!
How do you prevent snake or poisonous snake, lizard, etc.. from entering. I love the idea... but I am not too fond of snake
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Circulating water pump and regular people swimming keep unwanted creatures that like still water.
This is brilliant, I hate chemical pools and love river/pond swimming. I am very inspired and Will build one of these but it wont be in the U.K. I'm planing to do one of these natural swimming pools in and equatorial location, to be precise they seychelles. Do you think the high temp and 12hrs of sun year round will be a major prob regarding algae if I have a similar filter system in place? Great video hope to see some more green projects from yourself! all the best for now
love it were can i get the plans for this thanks
Can you put lights at the bottom?
Nice place
♥️
In response to DanielDaniel1's comment, this pool isn't likely to kill you at all! Please don't take his comment seriously as he clearly didn't know any better.
Do you have to worry about mosquitoes?
Beautiful🥰There is no fish?
@davidpaganbutler
This is brilliant, I hate chemical pools and love river/pond swimming. I am very inspired and Will build one of these but it wont be in the U.K. I'm planing to do one of these natural swimming pools in and equatorial location, to be precise they seychelles. Do you think the high temp and 12hrs of sun year round will be a major prob regarding algae if I have a similar filter system in place? Great video hope to see some more green projects from yourself! all the best for now
The amount of city-folk who ain't never swam in a pond is too damn high!
Seriously you guys, man the funk up, this water is more of less like lake water since it's being recycled/cleaned semi-regularly.
Except a natural lake is huge which is how it cleans water - with many many plants - and this is a far smaller footprint you can design into a large garden...
Which is why the plant area needs to be as big as the swimming area.
Color is green.
Can you heat these pools?
David, hi - very impressive, but don't you have problems with blanket weed?
will this work in the tropics?
Hi David. Would a natural swimming pool work in the same way in a semi-arid place like Cyprus?
what is the water temperature to air temperature ratio??
how can this be natural if its man made ? also do you know if these are gluten and gmo free ?
It was made with natural hands.
were they gluten free hands ?
Humans are natural...
BUT NOT GLUTEN FREE !
This is the kind of thing that hippies would like
What about Mosquitos ?....
I live in Virginia and am concerned about leaches. Do you have a solution for them? Is it a problem at all?
Hello, is the guide on building the pools still available? The link in description is broken. Thanks!
I am sorry but the DVD is available from www.organicpools.co.uk/
but you didn't share anything.. pretty much no information.. did I miss somethings.. or is this just an advert..?
Is it possibile to not use the pump, and make a swimming pool absolutely off grid?
Use a solar pump
@@PermacultureMagazine I am putting a swim pond in my back yard here in the USA. We do have a few venimis snakes, but I am putting up a 6ft. privacy fence, treated with chemicals and a little grease to keep them away. You have to know your kind, but be smart. Moth balls keeps snakes away with cinnamon, clove and peppermint oil mixed in water and sprayed around the fence. Critters don't like that. Food supply, you have to get rid of as well, like frogs, the snakes won't come. Don't keep it too weedy around the swimming area, just off to the sides. Air in the pond keep it clean and fish. Best to make a couple of filters. Fish eat mosquito larvae, if you keep it clean, you shouldn't have problem. There is spray you can get to treat the lawns and kill off the bugs. If you want a paradise, you have to work for it.
i was just thinking that
Good point
Hi David, I would like to duplicate your natural swimming pool that's featured in your video,on my property in Thailand. How can I get from you,step by step instructions,materials needed etc. Hoping you can help. Regards Dave.
tires in the pool??? not good for the human body...
I feel like it's scary. You can't see the bottom or what's in the water.
Are there any fish in here? Do fish just show up eventually??
You have to stock ponds. Wild life places will do it for free. You can also eat the fish. Being this is what the government has led up to do. Blue gill and sun perch is good.
Looks nice but scary.
why would anyone need to look out for frogs or dragonflies?...
I like it, but we got a serious snake problem round herr.
Estoy por iniciar un proyecto como este
but how does it work? where is the design and explanation lol
si si si
soooo... its just a regular pond?
Jeez, someones a bit of a party pooper. Didn't you ever go swimming in any creeks or lakes as a kid without worrying that you might get sick because all the icky wildlife hasn't been exterminated with chlorine? Unless you keep it filthy and stagnant (which this pond certainly is not, the water is constantly being recirculated) and live in the tropics you don't really have anything to worry about.
peace
the candiru will get you
Does this guy stand in for Ringo Starr when narrating Thomas the Tank?
This is just my opinion - but I wouldn't really like to be swimming and looking out for frogs and dragonflies at the same time :)
ill pass
a fraction. so what. still extremely expensive and very hard labor. david
mosquitos
Yeah that's safe
This could not be for me 😒 alligators around here climb fences 😮💨
Hardly 'a guide'. More of a trailer to a hidden, more comprehensive video, but without any links or furthe information.
And how do you prevent the brain eating amoeba?
aren't these called 'ponds' lol?
That would be a huge breeding ground for mosquitoes.
who wants to swim with other random bugs in there
ikr shit seems extremely gross
Better for your skin than chlorine. But it is also why you shower before and soap up after swimming.
nikhil sathyanaryana You must be speaking of the “bugs” that you can see, right?
I'd be cool with the lizards and dragon flies... but the other bugs... nope nope nope. I'll stick to sterile, chlorine-infused indoor pools, thanks.
++++
Um ew
ew water snakes and frogs yo mosquitoes.
Frogs and dragonflies that are attracted to the plants eat mosquito larvae. I wouldn't do this in Florida, but I live in high mountain desert. We have rattlesnakes and they don't care for water, they want heat.
Ummmmmmmmmmmm Mosquitoes?
A little naty... Rivers are better
Dengue
nice vid but the narration was horrible to listen to :s
ew
Nope, looks horrible.