Hello Ryan. This video was kinda exactly what I was looking for. My question is if I do remove the packing and put the baffles back in can I assume there won't be any performance issues such as the bike running too lean? I'm new in the MC world but really trying to learn. Thanks
Thanks for the video,,,now I tried to remove the end-cups from my street glide and could not remove them . you made it look very easy so I would think it was made it look easy just for the video.
In NYS, as of April 1, 2022 the fines for exhaust mods that make your bike louder than stock is $500. That fine is also levied against the inspection station AND the shop that did you mod. Same goes for cars but fine is $1000.
Wow! Can't believe those come out that easy. I have the vh eliminator 400's and they won't budge. I was able to get a screwdriver blade gap but I can't see getting mine out without damaging the end cap.
They were fairly new. We've done it on pipes that have been run a while and it can be tough! Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids bro: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Good job! Keep on keeping on. I'm new to all of this "Big Bad Biker" stuff. Nice to have an honest educated avenue to learn from. Not just "WHAT I HERD was" lol.
I've removed most of the fiberglass packing from my Bassani DnT slip ons about a year ago. I love the sound. Only now I noticed the right muffler has this gold/amber tint spanning the lenth of the muffler. Does the packing protect the muffler from heat preventing discoloration? or am I running lean possibly? I have stock headers, aftermarket air cleaner. It was tuned by previous owner, supposedly.
The fiberglass packing could definitely reduce heat. Probably why you are seeing the discoloration. You can always pull your plugs to ensure you aren't running too lean. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Bummed to find out my Tourqers already have the packing out… they just don’t have that snap to them and was hoping this would remedy that. Still a cool video, thanks for sharing.
Yah, we actually rode 4600 miles in 10 days cross country through 13 states a couple months ago. All good. Sounds is behind you. Yah, we ride long and far. We've done very long days.
Ryan, will this affect performance at all? I did this with my sport I'ld and it was all around awesome. Kept just alil packing to keep the sound clean. Thinking of doing the same on my Road King w/ RC Components slip ons. Hopefully it's the same set up. Just don't want to lose throttle response.
nice video, was wondering I have 15 road king with twin slash oval slip ons and vance and hines headers and stage 1 screaming eagle air intake, so it was tuned for that. if I remove just the packing like you said , do you think I will have to have retuned
We definitely recommend you run an auto tune map after removing the packing. That's why we never suggest getting Harley downloads. You are stuck if you ever make changes. We hightly recommend the V&H Fuelpak 3 EFI tuner. We run this tuner and sell it in our store. It gives you flexibility to make as many changes as you want. Then you can just run a simple auto tune map and be done..... Here is a link to the FP3 in our store and the free video we did ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
Hey Ryan - Great video but I neglected to confirm I have slash cut V& H so wondering if you know HOW T.F. to get my baffles out? I removed the 2 screws on each side, sprayed WD-40 between the pipe & baffles and CAN'T get them to free up. Before I pull them back off of the bike and try and figure it out I thought I'd check with you. Thanks bro
They have a metal perforated baffle that has a straight pass through. In our experience they can be tough to remove if the pipes have been on the bike for a while due to heating and cooling. You may want to try pulling them out when they are warm.
Hey Ryan thanks for the video I have the hi output V&H Slip-On. I removed the packing and got great sound but lost pressure and go throttle lag. I have a FP3 on my SGS will it correct this issue. Bikes stalls and fails to take off so times now
I did this on my rdc 11 sounded great and my str glide 14 and I'm fixing on doin it to my new str glide spe 17 there's no difference in performance and they sound much better!
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I am running the Rinehart Xtreme Tru Duals...they sound incredible. My friend has the same V&H as in the video and now wishes he went Rinehart lol. Nice job hope Lurch enjoys his RGS as much as I like mine (esp with my Bikergripper) Ride safe guys! Richie
No computer issue, but we recommend remapping your bike anytime you make a change to air/fuel/exhaust. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Question: it seems that most folks like the deeper sound of the pipes with the packing left in (so do I ). What about cutting the baffle down by 50% (chop sawing a center section, then weld the two ends back together)? Would this not make for better performance AND make it louder?
We're not sure the from of the baffle would line up with the head pipe then. If you decide to do it, let us know. We'd be interested in the results. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Ryan Urlacher well, I've removed both baffles and left the packing in. for several reasons; 1. because it's not brand new it may make quite a mess getting them out, 2. if I do get them out I certainly won't get them back in, 3. I like the deep tone. so, what I'm running is a baffle similar to a Big City Thunder " Monster Baffle" ( its similar because BCT doesn't make a baffle for 4" mufflers. with this set up I've made sound improvements. but have list a fair amount of back pressure and I think the sound could be improved a bit. My main point is that there is no header pipe connection now, so if I put the original baffles back in and they don't meet a header pipe then so what? BTW, I have Vance & Hines slip on duals.
This is 5 yrs ago so not sure if anyone will respond, but I'm attempting to do this on mine and mine is not coming out nearly as easy as yours did. Mine are black and the end pieces and no where near as big as yours. Any ideas without damaging the pipes?
I got a question I decatted my head pipe 2 days ago. I have cobra neighbor hater slip-ons which has no packing. Now I get the deceleration gurgling almost like in this video but worse which is very annoying. Is there anything I could do to the baffles to make it sound better. Like I said there's no packing whatsoever in cobra neighbor hater just a baffle with holes similar to the ones in the video.... Would tuning get rid of the gurgling? If so which one should I get.. not sure if I'm going to do cams ... Bike definitely runs a lot cooler with the cat gone
Just purchased 2022 roadglide m8 114, parts are backed ordered, roadglide has SCreamjng eagle stock pipes, bike is 100% stock.. if i take the packing out. Do i need to get a tuner? Basically will i damage anything.? Will i gain power or lose power
I took my packing out of my bassani slipons I have fuel pak should I just do a auto tune session on my current map or reflash fresh then auto tune. It dont seem to run much different.
You can use the auto tune feature. The baffle is still intact, but the wrapping was removed. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
There's no packing in Twin Slash Rounds. There is a standard steel baffle and a quiet baffle that V&H sells. There is only one or two screws at the end of the slip on that removes the steel baffle. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids bro: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
? I'm thinking about cutting my baffles wdyt have you done that to any bike I have Vance and Hines slip ons I removed my cat a couple years ago bike sounds ok but I would like just a little louder your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Back in the day we cut some baffles out. It does sound good, but you loose performance because of the lack of exhaust back pressure. Ride safe & Ride Often! Check out this TH-cam Channel as we have a ton of free videos for you! Check out our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos BECOME AN ECXLUSIVE MEMBER-GET BENEFITS: www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon Leave a flat donation: www.lawabidingbiker.com/donate Shop in the Official Law Abiding Biker Store: shop.lawabidingbiker.com Subscribe to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast: www.lawabidingbiker.com/app Join our free email club: www.lawabidingbiker.com/emailclub
Should be the same process. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Those have the metal perforated baffle. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Hi my name is Vinny. I have a Question. If I remove the Parking inside the exhaust the Power and the RPM will be Drop ? I just upgraded my bike to stage 2 Tkhs
I have the V&H slip ons on my 15 road glide, not sure of the model but there on ones at the HD dealer for $450.00, they have a deeper sound but not much louder then stock, my buddy's with Rineharts are laughing at them, is there packing I can remove? I see 2 screws on each baffle, but don't have the cash for a power commander and Dyno tune.
Depends on model to model. Take the screws out and remove the baffles. If there is packing remove it carefully and give it a try. Rick from LAB. Check out our store at www.lawabidingbiker.com/store
Any suggestions on how to get the packing out of a bike that has about 5K miles on it? Im getting the pipes and shields coated and it seems the packing is stuck to the tube. I think the fiberglass melted a bit and is now stuck.
It can be difficult on pipes that have had some miles on them. Brute force is really the only cure. Be careful not to damage them. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Hi Guys I'm trying to remove end cones on my Triumph bobber with the vance hines exhausts , there are 3 retaining screws which I have removed , but I can't get the cones off , they turn freely but feel as they make contact with another surface , preventing removal , can you advise please ...
We've found that a lubricant such as WD-40 helps to get the baffles out. Ride safe & Ride Often! Check out this TH-cam Channel as we have a ton of free videos for you! Check out our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos BECOME AN ECXLUSIVE MEMBER-GET BENEFITS: www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon Leave a flat donation: www.lawabidingbiker.com/donate Shop in the Official Law Abiding Biker Store: shop.lawabidingbiker.com Subscribe to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast: www.lawabidingbiker.com/app Join our free email club: www.lawabidingbiker.com/emailclub
Not yet. We haven't had the opportunity yet. Sorry. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Probably not a huge deal, but since we have @Vance&Hines FP3's we did. In reality the removal of packing isn't gonna throw off an already tuned bike much. So depends if you have already tunes from stock, etc. Rick from LAB.
It was tuned after they put on the pipes, exhaust and my SE air cleaner system. I was warned not to remove the packing as my bike might not run properly if I do that. Thoughts?
Ours in running fine. The metal baffle is still there. We just took out the packing. We ran an auto tune with our Vance and Hines FP3. I'd leave the packing in if your worried it won't run right.
Absolutely Gary, just be nice when you are pulling it out and you can put it right back in. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids bro: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
I have a 2017 Street Glide Special with stock exhaust. Would I have any issues with the emissions monitoring system if I modded/removed the packing and/or baffles? I really don't want to drop 700 dollars on a set of slip ons right now. Thanks!
Any time you change the exhaust or intake you should remap your bike. We prefer to use the Vance and Hines FP3. shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
Hey Ryan. Really appreciate the video color very helpful. this may be a dumb question, but if I am careful when pulling the baffles/packing out, if I decide that it is too loud or has to be re-dynod, is it possible and or difficult to put the packing back in?
Not sure, but it sounds worth a try. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Well I ended up taking all the packing out and it sounds so much better. I started with half the packing, didn’t make much difference. Then dropped down to 1/4 of the packing, still nothing. Removed all the packing and I know have a bike I can hear. Thanks for sharing this video, it was helpful.
Wan Syahmi , I removed my packing completely. Already had the stage I air filter and screaming eagle tuner. I also installed the stage II power cam. My bike sounds good, loud (still within the law requirements in NH) and still goes pretty good. My red line is now 6500rpm and the bike pulls all the way to red line.
Did not affect performance. We just simply ran a new EFI auto tune session on his Vance & Hines Fuelpak 3 EFI tuner. Here is a resource for that: www.lawabidingbiker.com/fuelpak3 Lurch loves the new sound...perfect.
I've bought the V&H Quiet baffle piece for my Upsweep 2-in-1. I removed all the bolts I need to remove. But I can't get the end cap loose. I tried WD40, hitting it with a rubber mallet and pure elbow grease, but it really won't budge. I'm kind of out of idea's, and I really don't want to damage the chrome finish. Any ideas?
Great video Ryan as well as others👍 I do have a dumb question for you...bought a used 12 SG' and I have on aftermarket slip ons (not sure what brand) the head pipes are Bassani's duals with the SE intake and SE tuner... so if remove the packing from the slip ons does the bike need to be retuned. Thank you
Not a dumb question at all. Yes, you should retune anytime you make any modification to exhaust or intake. That's why we recommend the V&H FuelPak 3. You can do it yourself and it works awesome. We have them in our store along with a tutorial video. shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
V&H must make the harley pipes pretty quiet. I have full V&H on my magna and even with significant hearing loss and full face helmet they still make my ears want to bleed after about an hour.
No, The medal baffles are still in there which provide the back pressure. The packing just reduces the sound. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Thanks Ryan one more question. I have the V&H hi output shorts. Since watching this video I have took out the insulation. It's louder for sure but not what I want. If I cut the baffle in half as well will I lose any performance?
If you do that you'll have to re-tune your Electronic Fuel Injection. We never recommend removing those baffles as you'll loose necessary back pressure. Your bike will loose power and not run optimally. But, it can be done. Not suggested. We recommend the V&H Fuel Pak 3 for re-mapping your EFI. We sell them right in our store and their are info/install videos there: ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
The baffles on stock exhaust can be extremely difficult to remove and often require cutting and or grinding. Ride safe & Ride Often! Check out this TH-cam Channel as we have a ton of free videos for you! Check out our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos BECOME AN ECXLUSIVE MEMBER-GET BENEFITS: www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon Leave a flat donation: www.lawabidingbiker.com/donate Shop in the Official Law Abiding Biker Store: shop.lawabidingbiker.com Subscribe to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast: www.lawabidingbiker.com/app Join our free email club: www.lawabidingbiker.com/emailclub
Yes, you can. In fact, Lurch added packing back in after changing out his head pipes. Ride safe & Ride Often! Check out this TH-cam Channel as we have a ton of free videos for you! Check out our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos BECOME AN ECXLUSIVE MEMBER-GET BENEFITS: www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon Leave a flat donation: www.lawabidingbiker.com/donate Shop in the Official Law Abiding Biker Store: shop.lawabidingbiker.com Subscribe to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast: www.lawabidingbiker.com/app Join our free email club: www.lawabidingbiker.com/emailclub
I have Vance and Hines short shots with quiet baffles came that way if I take the fiberglass off and put baffles back in how much of a sound difference will it make also would it hurt the motor?
It will make it significantly louder. It wound hurt the motor. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Eric we don't have experience with eliminator 400's. Cutting down the baffles probably isn't a good idea. On these mufflers we just removed the baffle wrapping. The baffles are still intact.
We played the chicks monster ovals. No baffle and no glass and didn't like..tried no glass and full baffles..didn't like the crackling..settled on half baffle and half glass..sounds louder and throatier without the crackling..
Ryan, before I asked my question as I will defend you with everyone saying it sounds better with the packing, that's because trying to record sound through a vlog/ video will never sound like it does in person!!👍👍 Now for my question , did you have any issues with the slip ons getting hotter then normal, which would cause damage to the hard bags or any other items. I am looking forward to your comment on this seeing how you have plenty of miles on it since this was recorded. Thanks for your help brother and keep up the great vids!!🛵🛵🏆
There has been no heat issues. No damage to the bags and no blueing to mufflers. The sound is in the ear of the beholder. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Hey Ryan, first time Harley owner, so I'm trying to learn as much as possible! I installed the headpipes and V&H Titan 450 slip ons. I got the right pipe off with little to no issues, however the left pipe has been a thorn in my side. I finally gave up and put the fiberglass packing back into the right pipe and have put almost 800 miles on the bike since. Long story short, I want to get the left pipe fiberglass & baffle out and was wondering if there is another workaround you would recommend. I've used WD-40 and also bought B'laster 16-PB Penetrating Catalyst (supposed to be the best out there, a higher rating then WD-40) and let the bike sight over night soaking in lubricant. I also wrapped them in a hand towel with a large set of channel locks with still no success. My next step is to let it soak again over night and use a rubber mallet. Any other suggestions????????????????
Wow! It sounds like you've done everything. In our experience they come off easy with the help of penetrating lubricant. I'm afraid we don't have any other tips for you. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Not with these particular slip ons, because they have an internal baffles. The wrap just quiets the exhaust down. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
Yes, you can. Lurch actually put his packing back in after adding aftermarket headers. Ride safe & Ride Often! Check out this TH-cam Channel as we have a ton of free videos for you! Check out our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos BECOME AN ECXLUSIVE MEMBER-GET BENEFITS: www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon Leave a flat donation: www.lawabidingbiker.com/donate Shop in the Official Law Abiding Biker Store: shop.lawabidingbiker.com Subscribe to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast: www.lawabidingbiker.com/app Join our free email club: www.lawabidingbiker.com/emailclub
Ryan Urlacher, first off I love your videos, all very informative and quite helpful to the riding community, I must also say good audio quality on this review of your mods, it is somewhat helpful in making my decision wether or not to modify the exhaust on my bike, I have the exact same exhaust setup and tuner as in this video, did you have any issues with discoloration after many miles? Sense you have performed the mod would you recommend this if I am looking for alittle more sound or do you prefer the sound with the baffels in? Or would you say it's not really worth modifying because it did not change much at all? The audio quailty was good but of course its never the same as listening to it in person. Just looking for your personal opinion. Others mileage may vary. Thanks for all the informative stuff, y'all are really helping many of us out!
Josiah, I have had no discoloration issues. The baffles are still in the exhaust. We didn't remove the baffles, only the baffle wrapping. The sound louder, but not obnoxious. You can always put the wrapping back on the baffles if you want too. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
I apologize for my typo, I did mean baffle packing, not baffle removal. I get those two jumbled up in my head sometimes but clearly know the difference. Thank you for your very quick and also clear reply to my question. I think I will give it a shot and if I don't like it, worst off I'll have to buy new packing. Pipes have around 16k on them. Heck, might not be able to drive the end caps off. I will try to remember to post an update once I accomplish the task to help other users. currently away from my bike for bout another month, but will be riding again soon.
Possibly. We did it to some screaming eagles a few years ago. Each pipe is different. I'd take it slow and easy in case the particular exhaust you have doesn't com apart. Ride safe & Ride Often! Here is a link to a bunch of our useful Free vids bro: www.lawabidingbiker.com/freevideos Here is a link to some of our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos Want Answers & Information Fast? And help support us at the same time? Do you like the content we provide? Our patrons get answers to their questions/comments/feedback in less than 24 hrs and are part of our Private Facebook Group. If you are interested in being in this exclusive group you can get all the details at ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon If you haven't subscribed to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast make sure to do so. Listen in as we talk weekly about issues/items like this & so much more. You can listen on iTunes (Apple/IOS), Stitcher Radio (Android), or any other Podcast App ==> www.lawabidingbiker.com/podcast Join our free email club at /www.LawAbidingBiker.com/EmailClub. Only relevant content will be sent from time to time. Email club members are the first to find out about free or for sale content are given special coupon codes.
We just wanted to remove the baffle wrapping. Removing the baffle entirely would reduce back pressure and significantly effect engine performance. Ride safe & Ride Often! Check out this TH-cam Channel as we have a ton of free videos for you! Check out our useful for purchase videos: www.lawabidingbiker.com/buyvideos BECOME AN ECXLUSIVE MEMBER-GET BENEFITS: www.lawabidingbiker.com/patreon Leave a flat donation: www.lawabidingbiker.com/donate Shop in the Official Law Abiding Biker Store: shop.lawabidingbiker.com Subscribe to the Law Abiding Biker Podcast: www.lawabidingbiker.com/app Join our free email club: www.lawabidingbiker.com/emailclub
I know this was 2016 buts its amazing how we still havent learned not to record exhaust notes directly behind the exhaust. Its too loud for the camera mic to pick up clearly.
We used to just tape cards to our spokes to get that sound. Those were good times. Sounds good. Keep the great videos coming.
Simpler times indeed. Rick from LAB.
No, we used a card and a clothespin.
Yes yes yes........we lived on our bikes back then.....
i did this to my V&H classic 2 mufflers on my vulcan 1500 years ago and it made all the difference! it took the bike from ok sounding to awesome!
Sounds way better without the packing. Great job. Loud pipes save lives
Hello Ryan. This video was kinda exactly what I was looking for. My question is if I do remove the packing and put the baffles back in can I assume there won't be any performance issues such as the bike running too lean? I'm new in the MC world but really trying to learn. Thanks
That was exactly my question. Thanks D.
Any comments Ryan?
Thank you for another great tutorial!
I took my packing out and wrapped the baffles tight with header wrap. Sounds really good
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GREAT idea.
yeah I think I'll leave mine in. Super cool difference though!
Great tip, thanks. I bought those V&H twin slash 2 into 1 for my dyna low rider and It’s so quiet. I will definitively try this on my bike.
Thanks for the video,,,now I tried to remove the end-cups from my street glide and could not remove them .
you made it look very easy so I would think it was made it look easy just for the video.
What about back pressure? I took my baffles out of my super radius and it sounded great but had absolutely no back pressure so I put them back in.
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES!!! Thanks for this sweet tip...\m/
In NYS, as of April 1, 2022 the fines for exhaust mods that make your bike louder than stock is $500. That fine is also levied against the inspection station AND the shop that did you mod. Same goes for cars but fine is $1000.
In NYS, communism is cool
I like the stock sound but the video shows you always have an alternative thanks for that
Wow! Can't believe those come out that easy. I have the vh eliminator 400's and they won't budge. I was able to get a screwdriver blade gap but I can't see getting mine out without damaging the end cap.
They were fairly new. We've done it on pipes that have been run a while and it can be tough! Ride safe & Ride Often!
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Good job! Keep on keeping on.
I'm new to all of this "Big Bad Biker" stuff. Nice to have an honest educated avenue to learn from. Not just "WHAT I HERD was" lol.
Thanks David. Welcome to the biker lifestyle.
I've removed most of the fiberglass packing from my Bassani DnT slip ons about a year ago. I love the sound. Only now I noticed the right muffler has this gold/amber tint spanning the lenth of the muffler. Does the packing protect the muffler from heat preventing discoloration? or am I running lean possibly? I have stock headers, aftermarket air cleaner. It was tuned by previous owner, supposedly.
The fiberglass packing could definitely reduce heat. Probably why you are seeing the discoloration. You can always pull your plugs to ensure you aren't running too lean.
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Bummed to find out my Tourqers already have the packing out… they just don’t have that snap to them and was hoping this would remedy that. Still a cool video, thanks for sharing.
Hi, do they come out of the factory with bafflers? I have the 'big Shot Long' I have never taken them apart, I thought they were already without
I did this for my 2020fxbb. It sounds a throatier and a lil louder. Though i can feel less back preasure and RPM is like 100-200 higher than before.
If you want a bar hopper take packing out, if you ride your bike leave it in sounds better won't kill your ears after a 800 mile day.
Yah, we actually rode 4600 miles in 10 days cross country through 13 states a couple months ago. All good. Sounds is behind you. Yah, we ride long and far. We've done very long days.
Ryan, will this affect performance at all? I did this with my sport I'ld and it was all around awesome. Kept just alil packing to keep the sound clean. Thinking of doing the same on my Road King w/ RC Components slip ons. Hopefully it's the same set up. Just don't want to lose throttle response.
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Ryan Urlacher how do I remap the EFI? Is that something the dealer has to do?
nice video, was wondering I have 15 road king with twin slash oval slip ons and vance and hines headers and stage 1 screaming eagle air intake, so it was tuned for that. if I remove just the packing like you said , do you think I will have to have retuned
We definitely recommend you run an auto tune map after removing the packing. That's why we never suggest getting Harley downloads. You are stuck if you ever make changes. We hightly recommend the V&H Fuelpak 3 EFI tuner. We run this tuner and sell it in our store. It gives you flexibility to make as many changes as you want. Then you can just run a simple auto tune map and be done..... Here is a link to the FP3 in our store and the free video we did ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
Thsnks
With packing. Lol. Thanks for the comparisons.
Hey Ryan - Great video but I neglected to confirm I have slash cut V& H so wondering if you know HOW T.F. to get my baffles out? I removed the 2 screws on each side, sprayed WD-40 between the pipe & baffles and CAN'T get them to free up. Before I pull them back off of the bike and try and figure it out I thought I'd check with you. Thanks bro
They have a metal perforated baffle that has a straight pass through. In our experience they can be tough to remove if the pipes have been on the bike for a while due to heating and cooling. You may want to try pulling them out when they are warm.
Hey Ryan thanks for the video I have the hi output V&H Slip-On. I removed the packing and got great sound but lost pressure and go throttle lag. I have a FP3 on my SGS will it correct this issue. Bikes stalls and fails to take off so times now
Yes, just run another auto tune on your bike. Good to go!
I did this on my rdc 11 sounded great and my str glide 14 and I'm fixing on doin it to my new str glide spe 17 there's no difference in performance and they sound much better!
Thank for sharing you experience. Other riders will want to know.
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Question, if I take the baffles and packing out of my factory SG will it affect the performance?
Well it make it run hot?
@@porkchop7268 no!!!
If you’re using the fuelpak3 will you need to flash a new map after removing the insulation?
Sorry if I missed this part but does this motorcycle have the stock header pipes?
I am running the Rinehart Xtreme Tru Duals...they sound incredible. My friend has the same V&H as in the video and now wishes he went Rinehart lol. Nice job hope Lurch enjoys his RGS as much as I like mine (esp with my Bikergripper) Ride safe guys!
Richie
Rock on Richie! thanks for the shout out.
First time streetglide owner will this work on Vans and Hines as i only have one screw to take off
Chrome Oversized 450 Raider Slip-On Mufflers - 16658--same scenario applies, correct? Have em on a 17 Street Glide. Thanks in advance.
Would this cause and computer issues on a 2007 electric glide classic? All factory with Vance and hines
No computer issue, but we recommend remapping your bike anytime you make a change to air/fuel/exhaust.
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I think it sounds better with the packing
Will taking packing out void the warranty??
Also will it mess with the back pressure? I got the vanes hines 300 elminator fatboy 2019
Question: it seems that most folks like the deeper sound of the pipes with the packing left in (so do I ). What about cutting the baffle down by 50% (chop sawing a center section, then weld the two ends back together)? Would this not make for better performance AND make it louder?
We're not sure the from of the baffle would line up with the head pipe then. If you decide to do it, let us know. We'd be interested in the results.
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Ryan Urlacher well, I've removed both baffles and left the packing in. for several reasons; 1. because it's not brand new it may make quite a mess getting them out, 2. if I do get them out I certainly won't get them back in, 3. I like the deep tone. so, what I'm running is a baffle similar to a Big City Thunder " Monster Baffle" ( its similar because BCT doesn't make a baffle for 4" mufflers. with this set up I've made sound improvements. but have list a fair amount of back pressure and I think the sound could be improved a bit. My main point is that there is no header pipe connection now, so if I put the original baffles back in and they don't meet a header pipe then so what? BTW, I have Vance & Hines slip on duals.
@@tyroneshoelace4872 Did it change the sound any?
This is 5 yrs ago so not sure if anyone will respond, but I'm attempting to do this on mine and mine is not coming out nearly as easy as yours did. Mine are black and the end pieces and no where near as big as yours. Any ideas without damaging the pipes?
Actually sounds a lot better with the packing in them. Without the packing it sounds way too hollow and tinny.
I agree. The exhaust sounds deeper with the packing. Without, it sounds kind of tinney.
I’d def be interested to hear it with half the packing in there. Hopefully kill that fart tube noise
I got a question I decatted my head pipe 2 days ago. I have cobra neighbor hater slip-ons which has no packing. Now I get the deceleration gurgling almost like in this video but worse which is very annoying. Is there anything I could do to the baffles to make it sound better. Like I said there's no packing whatsoever in cobra neighbor hater just a baffle with holes similar to the ones in the video.... Would tuning get rid of the gurgling? If so which one should I get.. not sure if I'm going to do cams ... Bike definitely runs a lot cooler with the cat gone
You can buy the packing material. Here is a link: bit.ly/3La9w1c
How does removing the packing effect the heat on the muffler? Does it cause any discoloration?
What are you guys using to clean the pipes out of the fingerprints ?
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Just purchased 2022 roadglide m8 114, parts are backed ordered, roadglide has SCreamjng eagle stock pipes, bike is 100% stock.. if i take the packing out. Do i need to get a tuner?
Basically will i damage anything.? Will i gain power or lose power
I took my packing out of my bassani slipons I have fuel pak should I just do a auto tune session on my current map or reflash fresh then auto tune. It dont seem to run much different.
The auto tune session would be good. Just to fine tune things.
What about tuning? I have the FP3 with V&H Eliminator 400s, standard baffles and stock head pipes.
You can use the auto tune feature. The baffle is still intact, but the wrapping was removed.
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You still have young ears, things change with age and wisdom.
I have the VH Slash cut rounds, any thought on how to remove the packing from this particular muffler??
There's no packing in Twin Slash Rounds. There is a standard steel baffle and a quiet baffle that V&H sells. There is only one or two screws at the end of the slip on that removes the steel baffle.
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It will affect the performance on the bike if I take tge wrap of my baffle??
? I'm thinking about cutting my baffles wdyt have you done that to any bike I have Vance and Hines slip ons I removed my cat a couple years ago bike sounds ok but I would like just a little louder your feedback would be appreciated thank you
Back in the day we cut some baffles out. It does sound good, but you loose performance because of the lack of exhaust back pressure.
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I have the same exhaust what would it sound like if you just took the baffles and the packing and left everything out
I have Vance and Hines 2 into one , hopefully same process
Should be the same process.
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I have V&H slash cut true duals ...do these have fiberglass inside?
Those have the metal perforated baffle.
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Will removing the baffles negatively effect bottom end or top end power and potentially damage my engine ?
Sounds waaaay better with wrapping out
Hi my name is Vinny. I have a Question. If I remove the Parking inside the exhaust the Power and the RPM will be Drop ? I just upgraded my bike to stage 2 Tkhs
I have a 4.5 rcx slip on with no fp3. Will it affect anything if I do this?
Have you tried this? If so what results?
Does this make the bike run leaner?
Maybe quieter with the packing, but it sounded much better that way.
Rock on. Each rider has to decide what sound they want.
Sound better with packing, it'll eventually burn out anyway.
I have the V&H slip ons on my 15 road glide, not sure of the model but there on ones at the HD dealer for $450.00, they have a deeper sound but not much louder then stock, my buddy's with Rineharts are laughing at them, is there packing I can remove? I see 2 screws on each baffle, but don't have the cash for a power commander and Dyno tune.
Depends on model to model. Take the screws out and remove the baffles. If there is packing remove it carefully and give it a try. Rick from LAB. Check out our store at www.lawabidingbiker.com/store
Any suggestions on how to get the packing out of a bike that has about 5K miles on it? Im getting the pipes and shields coated and it seems the packing is stuck to the tube. I think the fiberglass melted a bit and is now stuck.
It can be difficult on pipes that have had some miles on them. Brute force is really the only cure. Be careful not to damage them.
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Awesome vid guys!!! Question: Would you happen to know how many decibels were reached with this exhaust? Either pre or post modification??
We didn't run a decibel meter. I would say it a bit louder, but not obnoxious.
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I'm trying to remove end cones on my Triumph bobber with the vance hines exhausts , there are 3 retaining screws which I have removed , but I can't get the cones off , they turn freely but feel as they make contact with another surface , preventing removal , can you advise please ...
We've found that a lubricant such as WD-40 helps to get the baffles out.
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Hey Ryan. Rinehart now makes a baffle for their 4" & 4.5" slip ons. Have you guys done any comparison with them?
Not yet. We haven't had the opportunity yet. Sorry.
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Should retune if you remove the packing? I want to do that to my slip on 2-in-1 V&H 750 Street but not sure of the retuning if I have to?
Probably not a huge deal, but since we have @Vance&Hines FP3's we did. In reality the removal of packing isn't gonna throw off an already tuned bike much. So depends if you have already tunes from stock, etc. Rick from LAB.
It was tuned after they put on the pipes, exhaust and my SE air cleaner system. I was warned not to remove the packing as my bike might not run properly if I do that. Thoughts?
Ours in running fine. The metal baffle is still there. We just took out the packing. We ran an auto tune with our Vance and Hines FP3.
I'd leave the packing in if your worried it won't run right.
+Ryan Urlacher I want louder!! On thanks for the advice guys!!
On newer bikes with fuel mapping done by the ECU Its not necessary.
But if you have Carbs.. Oh yes,, definitely. You'll need a kit.
I much prefer the sound with the packing.
Hey Ryan, Can the packing be put back on the baffle and reinserted easily?
Absolutely Gary, just be nice when you are pulling it out and you can put it right back in.
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I have a 2017 Street Glide Special with stock exhaust. Would I have any issues with the emissions monitoring system if I modded/removed the packing and/or baffles? I really don't want to drop 700 dollars on a set of slip ons right now. Thanks!
Any time you change the exhaust or intake you should remap your bike. We prefer to use the Vance and Hines FP3. shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
Hey Ryan. Really appreciate the video color very helpful. this may be a dumb question, but if I am careful when pulling the baffles/packing out, if I decide that it is too loud or has to be re-dynod, is it possible and or difficult to put the packing back in?
Yah, you can put it back in
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What if you cut the packing in half and used the half instead all of it? I just want it a little louder but not tin like sound.
Not sure, but it sounds worth a try.
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Well I ended up taking all the packing out and it sounds so much better. I started with half the packing, didn’t make much difference. Then dropped down to 1/4 of the packing, still nothing. Removed all the packing and I know have a bike I can hear. Thanks for sharing this video, it was helpful.
@@CrayzJohnny hello
Just wanna ask..vance and hines high output
Does it have the packing?
Can it be removed ?
How bout the tune ???
Wan Syahmi , I removed my packing completely. Already had the stage I air filter and screaming eagle tuner. I also installed the stage II power cam. My bike sounds good, loud (still within the law requirements in NH) and still goes pretty good. My red line is now 6500rpm and the bike pulls all the way to red line.
I've got some V&H HO slipons that could use a bit more sound. Is Lurch happy with the new sound? Did this affect performance at all?
Did not affect performance. We just simply ran a new EFI auto tune session on his Vance & Hines Fuelpak 3 EFI tuner. Here is a resource for that: www.lawabidingbiker.com/fuelpak3
Lurch loves the new sound...perfect.
What V&H slip-ons were those?
Titan OS 450. Here is a link to them: bit.ly/3wRVYk5
I've bought the V&H Quiet baffle piece for my Upsweep 2-in-1. I removed all the bolts I need to remove. But I can't get the end cap loose. I tried WD40, hitting it with a rubber mallet and pure elbow grease, but it really won't budge. I'm kind of out of idea's, and I really don't want to damage the chrome finish.
Any ideas?
Heat it up
Great video Ryan as well as others👍
I do have a dumb question for you...bought a used 12 SG' and I have on aftermarket slip ons (not sure what brand) the head pipes are Bassani's duals with the SE intake and SE tuner... so if remove the packing from the slip ons does the bike need to be retuned. Thank you
Not a dumb question at all. Yes, you should retune anytime you make any modification to exhaust or intake. That's why we recommend the V&H FuelPak 3. You can do it yourself and it works awesome. We have them in our store along with a tutorial video. shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
First thing I did with my V&H Pro Pipe.....sounds much better..
V&H must make the harley pipes pretty quiet. I have full V&H on my magna and even with significant hearing loss and full face helmet they still make my ears want to bleed after about an hour.
Does it hurt anything to take the baffles out of a bike if you don’t have a fuel management system or tuner?
Anytime you change flow you should tune/remap you EFI for best performance and fuel economy. ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/search?q=fuelpak
Will this change performance? I have a 2 in to 1 Vance and Hines
You'll definitely lose some back pressure but it's nothing a little retuning can't fix
Will you lose power by taking out the fiberglass packing from the baffles?
No, The medal baffles are still in there which provide the back pressure. The packing just reduces the sound.
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Thanks Ryan one more question. I have the V&H hi output shorts. Since watching this video I have took out the insulation. It's louder for sure but not what I want. If I cut the baffle in half as well will I lose any performance?
I have twin slash rounds and know that they don't have packing. Will I have any issues if I remove the metal baffles?
If you do that you'll have to re-tune your Electronic Fuel Injection. We never recommend removing those baffles as you'll loose necessary back pressure. Your bike will loose power and not run optimally. But, it can be done. Not suggested. We recommend the V&H Fuel Pak 3 for re-mapping your EFI. We sell them right in our store and their are info/install videos there: ==> shop.lawabidingbiker.com/collections/air-fuel-exhaust/products/vance-hines-fuelpak3-efi-tuner-harley
Do all V&H have packing? I have the twin round. Would like to try this.
Not all. Many have metal baffling only.
Can I do the same whit original baffles?
The baffles on stock exhaust can be extremely difficult to remove and often require cutting and or grinding.
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Rayan , when remove packing can we return back again!
Yes, you can. In fact, Lurch added packing back in after changing out his head pipes.
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I have Vance and Hines short shots with quiet baffles came that way if I take the fiberglass off and put baffles back in how much of a sound difference will it make also would it hurt the motor?
It will make it significantly louder. It wound hurt the motor.
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can you cut the baffles on the eliminator 400's to get a little more sound?
I mean shorten the baffles or is that not a good idea
Eric we don't have experience with eliminator 400's. Cutting down the baffles probably isn't a good idea. On these mufflers we just removed the baffle wrapping. The baffles are still intact.
Does anyone know how to remove the twin slash baffle!? I can't find anything helpful online.
We played the chicks monster ovals. No baffle and no glass and didn't like..tried no glass and full baffles..didn't like the crackling..settled on half baffle and half glass..sounds louder and throatier without the crackling..
Ryan, before I asked my question as I will defend you with everyone saying it sounds better with the packing, that's because trying to record sound through a vlog/ video will never sound like it does in person!!👍👍
Now for my question , did you have any issues with the slip ons getting hotter then normal, which would cause damage to the hard bags or any other items. I am looking forward to your comment on this seeing how you have plenty of miles on it since this was recorded.
Thanks for your help brother and keep up the great vids!!🛵🛵🏆
There has been no heat issues. No damage to the bags and no blueing to mufflers. The sound is in the ear of the beholder.
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Good deal, I am running mine with true headers and 4.5 rear with no packing.
Great info and keep up the great vids👍👍
I GOT A XL883L WITH VANCE AND HINES I WANT TO TAKE OUT THE BAFFELS BUT CANT SEE THEM AND THERE ARE NO SCREWS? WHAT NOW I NEED IT LOUDER..
Hey Ryan, first time Harley owner, so I'm trying to learn as much as possible! I installed the headpipes and V&H Titan 450 slip ons. I got the right pipe off with little to no issues, however the left pipe has been a thorn in my side. I finally gave up and put the fiberglass packing back into the right pipe and have put almost 800 miles on the bike since. Long story short, I want to get the left pipe fiberglass & baffle out and was wondering if there is another workaround you would recommend. I've used WD-40 and also bought B'laster 16-PB Penetrating Catalyst (supposed to be the best out there, a higher rating then WD-40) and let the bike sight over night soaking in lubricant. I also wrapped them in a hand towel with a large set of channel locks with still no success. My next step is to let it soak again over night and use a rubber mallet. Any other suggestions????????????????
Wow! It sounds like you've done everything. In our experience they come off easy with the help of penetrating lubricant. I'm afraid we don't have any other tips for you.
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I've seen the muffler taken off and a piece of wood used to hammer out the baffle from the other end.
use one of them oil filter wrench with the rubber belt on it.
Hi ryan will taking out the baffles effect my engine or performance of my harley ? is it bad for the bike?
Not with these particular slip ons, because they have an internal baffles. The wrap just quiets the exhaust down.
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With packing is better
To each their own.
don't listen to him without sounds hell of a lot better but don't you have to adjust your intake
From memeory was the left baffle smaller in diameter...
Show me how to change mufflers one freeweller harley trick
Will it hurt my 22 fatboy to cut the baffles in half on my vance and hines twin slashers
Can you reinstall the packing?
Yes, you can. Lurch actually put his packing back in after adding aftermarket headers.
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Did you lose performance and gain HP?
Very minor. Not noticeable
No tuner needed with slip-ons.....if you take the packing out...that increases the air flow....do you now need a tuner??
Ryan Urlacher, first off I love your videos, all very informative and quite helpful to the riding community, I must also say good audio quality on this review of your mods, it is somewhat helpful in making my decision wether or not to modify the exhaust on my bike, I have the exact same exhaust setup and tuner as in this video, did you have any issues with discoloration after many miles? Sense you have performed the mod would you recommend this if I am looking for alittle more sound or do you prefer the sound with the baffels in? Or would you say it's not really worth modifying because it did not change much at all? The audio quailty was good but of course its never the same as listening to it in person. Just looking for your personal opinion. Others mileage may vary. Thanks for all the informative stuff, y'all are really helping many of us out!
Josiah, I have had no discoloration issues. The baffles are still in the exhaust. We didn't remove the baffles, only the baffle wrapping. The sound louder, but not obnoxious. You can always put the wrapping back on the baffles if you want too.
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I apologize for my typo, I did mean baffle packing, not baffle removal. I get those two jumbled up in my head sometimes but clearly know the difference. Thank you for your very quick and also clear reply to my question. I think I will give it a shot and if I don't like it, worst off I'll have to buy new packing. Pipes have around 16k on them. Heck, might not be able to drive the end caps off. I will try to remember to post an update once I accomplish the task to help other users. currently away from my bike for bout another month, but will be riding again soon.
The end caps came of pretty easily for use. We did spray in a little WD-40 to help. Let us know how it goes for you.
I guess you can do the same with Screaming Eagle exhaust 4"?
Possibly. We did it to some screaming eagles a few years ago. Each pipe is different. I'd take it slow and easy in case the particular exhaust you have doesn't com apart. Ride safe & Ride Often!
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Why not cut the metal baffle off before putting exhaust tip back on?
We just wanted to remove the baffle wrapping. Removing the baffle entirely would reduce back pressure and significantly effect engine performance.
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Thanks for the great info!!
I know this was 2016 buts its amazing how we still havent learned not to record exhaust notes directly behind the exhaust. Its too loud for the camera mic to pick up clearly.