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Otso Fenrir Ti Review: A Titanium ATB!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ส.ค. 2024
  • The Otso Fenrir Ti is a full two pounds lighter than the stainless steel version we reviewed two years ago. Watch the in-depth review of the Fenrir Ti after 550 miles of bikepacking, gravel grinding, and trail riding in Utah and Colorado here...
    This video was supported by Teravail Tires. Learn more about the Washburn and their offerings here: www.teravail.com/product/tera...
    Outline:
    Intro - 0:00
    Geometry and Fit: 2:05
    Otso's Tuning Chip: 5:37
    Frame Features: 8:17
    Components: 9:55
    How It Rides: 11:26
    Final Thoughts: 14:03
    Mentioned Links:
    Otso Fenrir Steel Review - bikepacking.com/bikes/otso-fe...
    Written review with photos can be found here: bikepacking.com/bikes/otso-fe...
    Do you enjoy our videos, routes, and articles? Help sustain this resource by joining the Bikepacking Collective: bikepacking.com/join/?...
    #bikepacking #pedalfurther #otso
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    ::About The Host::
    Neil Beltchenko ( / neil_beltchenko )
    Geometry: 150lbs, 5'9.5", 32" inseam
    Tested - Medium Fenrir

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  • @BIKEPACKINGcom
    @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Correction to frame weight: All told the large titanium frame comes in at 916g or two pounds lighter than the steel version. the frame is not sub 1000g, but comes in at 1,814g. The medium bike I tested comes in at 10.64 kg (23.45 lbs). Sorry for the confusion.

    • @br5380
      @br5380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I watched the first 2 mins and then came here to comment 🥳 as I’ve an old 26” On One 456Ti (Lynskey) and that frame weighed 1.75kg in a large.
      At 1.8kg the Otso is light though for a 29”.

    • @nomadtrails
      @nomadtrails 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      haha I came to comment, no way that large ti frame is less than a typical medium carbon frame! Thanks for the correction.

  • @maestropastrana
    @maestropastrana ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic reporting and presentation Neil! Thanks for the thoughtfulness and thorough reflections on this bike and in all the work you put into this chanel and the website!

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure, it was a fun one to put together. Thanks for watching.

  • @jefftoonstra5087
    @jefftoonstra5087 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice to see external routing on a frame, ideal for tinkering. I love everything about my Bearclaw Thunderhawk except the internal routing. Ti is really worth the price of admission!

  • @jamisonswift8320
    @jamisonswift8320 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nearing 300 miles on my Fenrir Ti and loving it. I'm just barely 5'8" and actually went with a small drop bar. I tried both the medium and the small and felt like either could probably work, but their recommendation was that if I was to be riding more loaded down the smaller frame might work better from a handling perspective. The bike is feeling great so no complaints on the direction I chose. I've been nicely surprised by the ENVE fork. Never had one before and it's very comfortable and has a lot of versatility. I'm coming from a Surly Ghost Grappler which has a VERY similar geometry and long reach, and the Fenrir felt right at home, but with much better components and a LOT less weight. Overall an awesome bike, despite the $$$

    • @drewgray94
      @drewgray94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you tested how much weight the ENVE fork can load?

  • @milesarbour2210
    @milesarbour2210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great overview, Neil! Looks like a fun bike. Some Chumba Yaupon vibes for sure!

    • @pbskater3
      @pbskater3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miles, did you ever run the Yaupon as a flat bar?

  • @Jean-jk4zv
    @Jean-jk4zv ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Neil your short zip is open, now you have to redo the whole video 😁

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      LOL, i was wondering when someone would notice. I thought about redoing it, and said, "nope, that video was too long". LOL, thanks for watching.

    • @Jean-jk4zv
      @Jean-jk4zv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BIKEPACKINGcom i also watched the video 😁 good content as usual

    • @gravelpack8536
      @gravelpack8536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

  • @andrew_nepsund
    @andrew_nepsund ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So rad. Love the way you had it set up and so fun to see the Otso x Wolf Tooth fam getting some love! 🎉

  • @ElevationEveryWeekend
    @ElevationEveryWeekend ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the versatility, and really love 29plus compatibility.

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome bike, Awesome View! 😎👍💯

  • @captaincoyote1792
    @captaincoyote1792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m looking to replace my Chumba Stella ti…and I’m down now, to a Sklar or an Otso. Darn it all….choices choices! You mention that the “middle position insert” allows for “single speed or an internally geared hub”. Regarding the IGH, I immediately after watching this the first time, I reached out to Otso…and they stated that there bike CANNOT accommodate a Rohloff IGH (which I already own. Looks like I’m looking at the Sklar, now. I want a ti frame that can accommodate either a Rohloff, or that can be ordered with a Pinion Drive. Damn damn damn! Where is my American-made Goldilocks ride? As always, Neil, you do a phenomenal job of coming off a “natural professional” when making your videos! Ride on, ride safe, brother!

  • @johnwullschleger4351
    @johnwullschleger4351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me a bit of my Bearclaw Beux Jaxon although it doesn’t have flip chips and I’d need to go wireless if I was going to do a dropper.

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome & Thanks :)

  • @michaelmcarthur7134
    @michaelmcarthur7134 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems like new school seat angle and old school reach doesn't add up a flat bar ATB that's enjoyable. On the drop bar front, I'd want a 74 STA to get the pressure off my hands when riding on level ground for hours on end.

  • @larrywhite8590
    @larrywhite8590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this! Bloody hell, just what I needed to see, a bike I don't want to afford that would drop the weight of my drop bar ATB by a bunch, and that actually would fit. I don't like the fact that it is boost, but I guess I am not going to win that one. In small this is pretty close to the 52 Sutra ULTD/LTD I now ride. With the lighter frame and carbon fork it would drop roughly 6 lbs. Hell that is only about $1000 CAD a pound, then again maybe not ;-).

  • @JonasUrthOlsen
    @JonasUrthOlsen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review and interesting bike. I think something I wrong with the weight. According to Otso frame weight is 1814g for size L (Stainless is 2540g) sub 1kg is a pretty lightweight carbon frame.

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      my words got mixed up, I meant to say "All told the large titanium frame comes in at 916g or two pounds lighter than the steel version."

  • @AbMtnGuy
    @AbMtnGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another excellent review Neil. The seat stays appear be fairly small in diameter, and tube thickness isn't noted. Did you notice lateral movement in the rear triangle?

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tubing is 16mm, which I think is pretty normal for a bike of this caliber. It still offers comfort while being snappy and predictable, perhaps part of that is the boost rear end also. But I didn't notice any unwanted lateral movement on the rear triangle, no.

  • @miguela.migallon5055
    @miguela.migallon5055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tengo 44 años y llevo montando en bicicleta desde que tengo uso de razon. La verdad es que cada dia estoy alucinando con el precio de las bicis de hoy en dia... Casi rozando la falta de respeto... En fin, el mundo moderno...

  • @davidf1288
    @davidf1288 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very thorough review. Seems like the ideal adventurer's drop bar gravel bike for off-the-beaten path bikepacking trips. The TI frame and massive 2.6-in. tires would definitely act as suspension in most non-technical riding situations. Curious, with the sub 1000 gram frame, what did it weigh minus the bikepacking bags?

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! The medium with pedals and a bit of dirt on it came in at 10.64 kg (23.45 lbs). I should have added that in the review, but it is in the written portion: bikepacking.com/bikes/otso-fenrir-ti-review/

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, my words got mixed up, 916 grams was the difference between the Ti and Steel version.

    • @jamisonswift8320
      @jamisonswift8320 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll add that my size small was nearly identical to the weight Neil posted. I think maybe only .05 lbs less.

  • @captaincoyote1792
    @captaincoyote1792 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, Neil! This just might be the Goldilocks I’m looking for! My Chumba Stella ti is a gorgeous bike, but the geometry is “beyond” my needs and comfort zone. I wonder if I can outfit this gem with my Rohloff? Next problem? How to approach the wife on this potential purchase…..Hmmmm.

    • @quidestnunc9238
      @quidestnunc9238 ปีที่แล้ว

      “The Wife” should be an avid Rider; although neither is mine.

  • @marcwilliams4014
    @marcwilliams4014 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    probably comes out of the same factory in china as the Titus/Planet x(UK) frames that cost US$1000 for frame or $2500 full build.
    looks VERY similar, even the laser etching!

  • @LOZUPONEJ
    @LOZUPONEJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to have a titanium frame some day

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      This would be a great project frame to build up.

  • @eriktaylor7066
    @eriktaylor7066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like it could be a really playful drop bar bike on the gravel flats, am I assuming that right?

  • @AverageBensCycling
    @AverageBensCycling ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the rear rack you're using in some shots? It looks like it straps around the seatpost.

  • @juliapoelstra3624
    @juliapoelstra3624 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it compare to the Ti Fargo?

  • @crazywisdom2
    @crazywisdom2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a vid on bike trackers = )

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe something like this? bikepacking.com/plan/garmin-inreach-mini-review/
      or this: bikepacking.com/gear/apple-airtag-review/

  • @jeremyrobinette2563
    @jeremyrobinette2563 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This vs Tumbleweed Stargazer Ti?

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tough call, I have not tested the ti version of the Stargazer, but I would assume its that much better. I do however really love this Fenrir, and still have it.

  • @mountaincruiser817
    @mountaincruiser817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So a “claimed” bikepacking bike should have clearance for 2.6 tires? So the Cutthroat is not a real world bikepacking rig in your opinion?

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure would be nice to have more clearance, I'm hoping they make that change. I've told them in the past that is one of the flaws of that bike.

    • @mountaincruiser817
      @mountaincruiser817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BIKEPACKINGcom 2.6 sounds more like an exploring rig. I've got a Cutthroat V2 but never missed more clearance than 2.4. But then again, I don't ride where you ride.

    • @fairweathertube
      @fairweathertube ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got 2.6 Rekons on my Cutthroat. Plenty of room.

  • @MeowHikes
    @MeowHikes ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone's talking about his fly but the audio mismatch starting at 7:45 is more jarring 😅

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm working with TH-cam as we speak to fix the issue, but I may need to upload a new version. Sorry folks.

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Audio issue is fixed.

  • @coreyreeder3549
    @coreyreeder3549 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like it wants a suspension fork, but it would be a world class snub to reject that Enve fork

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      I always like your takes Corey, you are spot on. I should throw a sus fork on but I
      I think Enve may have some envy.

  • @larrywhite8590
    @larrywhite8590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh and one other thing, the Kona Sutra ULTD you tested in large has a 400mm reach, 10 mm longer than the ALICE, but still 16 mm shorter than the Fenrir in Med. Hmm seatpost shims, they work great. And finally your audio sync is terrible, wow is it distracting.

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AH, that's right. For what it's worth, Logan sent that Large my way, and it certainly was a bit large for me, but it worked. the ULTD 54 still has a long reach, 395mm. Also, TH-cam fixed the audio issue, sorry about that.

  • @Plast_and_Cars
    @Plast_and_Cars ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Гарний велосипед, шкода що у нас такого не побачеш в живу.

  • @mlentz8421
    @mlentz8421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coolio

  • @lennydellavalle3683
    @lennydellavalle3683 ปีที่แล้ว

    why would any one want only one by.

    • @WordupG
      @WordupG ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plenty of reasons and plenty of people who feel that way.

  • @zap...
    @zap... ปีที่แล้ว

    This sounds like a salsa fargo ti.

  • @Berserker26
    @Berserker26 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your fly is open

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!!!!! It is a fly, everyone was saying something else, thank you!

  • @foti5651
    @foti5651 ปีที่แล้ว

    baby shark du du du . YOur Zip bro 😂 open

  • @MarioXcore1
    @MarioXcore1 ปีที่แล้ว

    90s MTB, like forreal

  • @alecklassen2737
    @alecklassen2737 ปีที่แล้ว

    Barn door.

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I grew up calling it a fly.

    • @tubesockets120v
      @tubesockets120v ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're packing horse 🐎 size, it's barn door.

    • @alecklassen2737
      @alecklassen2737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BIKEPACKINGcom ‘barn door’ was always used as code in public (at least with my dad) so it could be fixed without people catching on.

  • @PolyglotBikepacker
    @PolyglotBikepacker ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I join as a European?

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Collective? You bet, we have folks from all over the world that have joined.

    • @PolyglotBikepacker
      @PolyglotBikepacker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BIKEPACKINGcom thanks, I'll join. I really love the work you guys put in! 👏

  • @THEBLACKANARCHIST
    @THEBLACKANARCHIST ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll pass 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @BIKEPACKINGcom
      @BIKEPACKINGcom  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not for everyone. I see you also liked your own comment, nice

  • @driftwood4458
    @driftwood4458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, your zipper is down.