the new steam players have already left the game… they released it on steam like a month or two ago and for a week and a half the servers were almost always full of players to the point that nobody could join games, and the player count hit an all time high of 4,000 something like that. 3 or so weeks ago, the playerbase died down by a few thousand players. maybe ea will notice how much better gw2 has been performing than bfn ever did, but honestly i think that’s being a bit optimistic
This is a totally reasonable point, but I think that its fun to discuss that there is a chance or EA even entertained the idea of reviving the shooters again! It shows how even the biggest companies can change their minds about something (sometimes its for the money of course).
@@NUKCYNDv for someone in australia, i can only find a lobby in american servers since nobody plays in my region. still cool there’s still players in the first place though
GW2 was extremely fun - the lobby has so much to do, there was secret content to unlock like Torchwood and Hovergoat, and it still had the unique variants, but BFN had some really out there ideas which I wouldn’t mind seeing in some kind of GW3. I liked the idea of the Swarm class (never played it, but it looked really interesting), the combo classes are an interesting idea, and… didn’t they have new characters on the way or something?
I remember seeing leaks for multiple more legendary upgrades like vinyl disc peashooter, shotgun oak, ricochet laser soldier, and characters like mini gargantuar, super bean, berry brigade, and iceberg lettuce
They added Wizard Zombie. Dude, this guy was extremely fun to play. I don't even have words to explain how cool he was. Generally, BFN had gigantic potential but EA ruined it
@@nepemaster4674 Upgrade system wasn’t liked because it replaced the variants system which quite a few people also liked. They could tone down the effects and make it more broad, or they could go nuts and make an upgrade tree specific to each variant, either way, I’d at least like to see variants return, whether or not they keep upgrades around
Based off of this game getting updated, I hope that they pay attention to games such as PVZ2 and PVZ heroes. PVZH has a large fanbase and it needs an update or new cards to keep the fanbase engaged
@@dehydrated1 eh. It’s definitely not as great as GW and GW2, but I still like the Open World concept and the new characters. Still, it would’ve been a better idea to just make a GW3 or GW2 dlc that adds the Open world maps and other characters.
It would have been debatable because people would be used to BFN (because GW doesnt come out) but when they release GW, people would probably question why the crap the graphics are horrible and the controls are much different. once GW2 comes out, people would probably question why theres a sequel, but would probably like it some because its.. well.. an improvement lol
@@sharpyboy5084 pretty much :P idk about playstyle tho. BFN's playstlye is based of competatively using abilities and playing smart, while GW(2) is primary fire galore
Well, the fact that EA actually came back in january-february of 2022 to fix rux, we can only assume it is possible for EA to come back to the franchise and still give updates. They fixed Rux this year, they are now coming back to fix turf takeover. I see a glimmer of hope that there is potential for either a new game or adding support once again.
@@Oskar.G why doe, i thought it was pretty fun, imean i havn't played GW2 before bfn but i just can't get into GW2 anymore after getting used to the faster nature of bfn, it feels like going from apex legends back to cs go
It's a shame bfn was so bad, I liked the new characters, but it just wasn't worth playing outside the story mode imo (and even then it wasn't that good).
It would've gotten better with updates, but knowing "PopCap good, EA bad," they would just get a bunch of hate for no reason, so it was canceled. Most people with logical arguments complained about variants though, so I don't know why they couldn't have just listened instead of ABANDONING THE WHOLE GAME.
I really do hope so too! Me and my mech figurine are waiting for GW3 lmao. PvZ is a big franchise so its possible for anything (good or bad) to happen!
I really feel like BFN made us all realize how good GW2 was. At least for me, I got back into GW2 after BFN was such a disappointment. I really hope that we get a game that has some of the balance changes from BFN, but keeps all the good stuff from GW2
BFN was fun for the switch atleast, put a good 150 hours into it, And it’s fun for what it is I guess, GW2 is still better but the cosmetics in BFN have to return, they were so much better
No , gw2 is far superior than bfn, if there's another shooter it should avoid getting inspiration from bfn, the only good thing was the campaign and the giddypark and maybe the sprint mechanic.
This game needs a revive, it’s too good to let die. It’s my damn childhood. It’s Overwatch BUT FUN! (OW is good competitively it’s hard for me to just have fun in it). This video encapsulated this pretty well (but you do repeat some stuff so it could use a bit of polishing, other than that it’s really good.)
On October 8th Overwatch 2 is coming out. I played the Beta and oh my god it feels so much better, its actually playable again. Love to see a fellow Gw and Ow player
I don't want them to make 3 they are so out of touch with what made them great just like the rest of the gaming industry and EA fired the main creator of gw2 If i was working for them I would just update gw2 and the player base would come back strong if they add more more shit and doing community events and new maps new modes and bring everything offline too and see how that goes for a while then make gw3 after a few years more people would buy the game and bring new people to game its not that hard to understand what the community want for the game
Its so dumb that they dont at least add a couple new things to the game every few months, they already have the code and models but they refuse to do anything with it. GW2 was the most popular version of pvz shooters and it'll keep that way
@@nglish6905 Hell yes they do but it's not PopCap its EA who makes those kind of dumbass decisions but EA is losing its grip on the industry very fast sooner or later Microsoft is going to buy them out. sadly the new era of games is about Graphics and Money not about fun and experience anymore
I just want the fun game modes to come back like dino vs cats, boss hunt, soil survivors, battle of exploding hero’s and etc. that’s all I want like at least add them even if it’s solo play
I know, they're fucking idiots, would it hurt to give us a good rotation of town hall modes, like for real all it takes is just one employee at ea to decide a good mode and put it on once a month, it would not take much but ea are the most stubborn money grabbing fools I'm tired of the same modes in town hall over and over just give us boss hunt and soil survivors and I'm happy
The problem with battle for neighborville is fight system, it feels so weird and that you can also now sprint with character. Also I like the charakter designs from GW2 way more.
@@starkiller6tothe9gaming81 Scientist is a chad because he never actually changed; he just got more polished, nothing else, and I really like that about him.
FunFact: PopCap planned on eventually adding new game modes and character variants to BFN, but EA saw it was failing (even though it’s been 3 months) and decided to take control over it and introduced micro transactions instead and abandoned it. FunFact#2: PopCap was celebrating GW1 hiring 8Million players…..then EA came in and told them to stop showing support to that game. FunFact#3: EA abandoned GW2 simply because they saw the community was happy how the game was….then they proceeded to nerf crap and get rid of community challenges and boss hunts just to dip and work on a worse game.
Id love to see if they somehow fused gw and gw2 together because i love the older graphics made it have a feel as if the plants were more realistic and the maps OH the maps
I hope EA makes a new Garden Warfare game and bring the BFN characters to it since the characters were cool and the variants could really make things interesting.
If they do make GW3 i hope they use BFN graphics, Hud and movement, use GW2 gameplay with classic maps and new ones, add a new character to the Base roster on GW2 with a character from BFN (Snap Dragon and The Zombie Wizard guy) keep the variants, i would like them to add Killstreaks (Vanquish streaks bc PvZ 😂) jus imagine a Carrot masked as a AC130
If GW1 and GW2 are revived like a lot on Xbox, I’m gonna start playing Hard and Crazy Mode on each of them no matter what players they are. I’m glad this game is “being revived by EA”.
I wouldn't exactly call it reviving, a few weeks before it was announced for Steam I played for a few hours over the course of a couple days, and the lobbies were still active (at least the server I was in)
I remember how it took them years to update GW2 with Twilight Chomper lol. And even then Twilight Chomper was just Unicorn Chomper with a different version of it's rainbow dash
GW2 and GW have always been the better quality, more hyped, and all-around more loved games. I think what really drove people away, including myself, from BFN, was the fact that they removed most of the things that made GW2 and GW so amazing. What REALLY drove me away though is the removal of variants. I just want to play Snow Peashooter, is that too much to ask!?!? I also found the storyline for BFN really... boring.
I still wish they would bring back GW1. Obviously 2 is better, but 1 has a great style and great maps, and I just wish they'd combine the best parts of the two.
I’ve had my personal thoughts about each game and here’s some of them 1. I like the online lobby thing,but I really love garden warfare 2’s lobby. 2. I dislike certain character variants I loved being gone,including berry peashooter,lime cactus. 3. I love the swarm class idea.
Gw2 was absolutely legendary, i been a pvz fan ever since i was 6 after playing OG Pvz and I’m glad a fun game is somewhat getting more popular again. Though BFN is garbage, they removed variants etc. and EA stopped developing it which they should have.
I came up with a pvz game with full voice acting called plants vs zombies vangaurd, it's like a turn based combat were you can play as a plant or zombie, it reintroduces some of the old gw characters like captian smasher, sasquach, pumpkin squash, and hypnosis flower, as well as many of the old variants
I wish they could take some of the best features from neighborville (the sprinting option, the new characters, and other things), slap some variants onto the new characters, and add them to GW2
I love these games. Even BFN. I actually got the platinum in that one. I play either that or GW2 almost every day. The steam release gave me hope, so let's keep our appendages crossed!
Exactly people always call bfn trash because they always compare it to gw2 when the games are nothing alike. Another reason why many trash on the game is because youtubers like wolfy and zero dont like it.
@@lceGhost Yea, they tried to go for something different, and that's good, I like the designs, characters, and abilities, sure some things are taken out but that's the whole point of the game being different.
@@Zhirst exactly, for months I've played GW2, I decided to go back to battle for neighborville, and it's very enjoyable, it's hard to get bored since there's so much to do in the game.
As someone who loves PvZ and shooters, one of my biggest wishes is to experience these games before they die. Never got my hands on a XB1/PS4 or any gaming PC these past years.
Coming to say as a 2014 gw1 player, the game was AMAZING when it hit it's high in the community, people were making loads of content, all game modes were full of people and friendly competition, they were getting sponsors and adding completely new things! Heck the even had a community event and the winner got to put in their very own variant idea for a class (Plasma pea won), now all that's left is a couple turf servers, maybe a team vanquish or ops if your playing midday when the games most active, pc cheaters and every other game mode that isn't a main one like ops or turf is completely empty and left on waiting for players. The only time you will see the game active now is when a large pvz community bands together to all get onto the same platform and the same game mode to re-live the times when the game was a internet sensation. One actually happened a few months ago with capture the taco and for the first time in probably years there was a full lobby, and at that there was multiple full lobbies
I had such a good time in gw2 its really devastating to hear from ea that they dont see a future for it, but otherwise i am happy to hear that people still play this game after such a long time
please be let there be a new plants vs zombies shooter game. plants vs zombies battle for neighborville is the worst 3rd shooter game EA has ever made. plants vs zombies garden warfare and plants vs zombies garden warfare 2 are the best shooter games EA has ever made.EA needs to make a new better plants vs zombies shooter game. is EA ever going to ever make a new plants vs zombies shooter game?
I agree with @chatarrra EA owns PopCap and they are influencing it in a negative way, the problem is comes from the higher ups, whom are the executives at EA.
I think the shooter games would have absolutely skyrocketed for PVZ if they made BFN in a similar style to GW2 like making it look similar and keeping variants, the character upgrade system and the sticker packs but also adding features like giddy park and the campaign maps like town centre and dreadwood forest
I totally agree, but I think that the game needed to change a bit to be relevant for longer, however the changes that were made, were in the wrong direction :(
i dont think their shutting the servers down for a few more years because they just released the port so this atleast can show that the servers will atleast be up for a few more years
you know, pvz shooters were amazing until bfn, like i guess it might be milking it but bfn was like, milking terribly cause they got rid of so much of the good things like the variants and just tossed the balancing out the window, the game didn't die cause people were getting tired of pvz shooters, it was cause the game was awful in comparison with the 2 much better shooters
@@specialism640 the campaign definitely needs more work, all 4 basically follow the same mission pattern and aren't very different in each other besides the environment being different so it gets boring quickly after you finish one
The campaign felt repetitive in a boring way. They didn't add variants which was the core of GW1, GW2, and they made the game much more faster which doesn't suit the playstyle of PVZ.
Plants versus zombies garden warfare, two is one of my favourite games of all time I have been playing it consistently for years. I really hope they update it and add things like new characters and more customisation just as long as that doesn’t mean micro transactions Galore
I hope this opportunity to see GW2, an older game compared to PVZ 3 and BFN, is doing better than the other two combined despite being a 6 year old game will make Popcap look back and revive other games in the PVZ franchise. I was a bit unlucky because I bought the gme on origins at that same discount, but Steam is just much more superior of a launcher overall anyways. For me personally, the game is amazing up until you hit multiplayer. As an asian, I found absolutely 0 players on any gamemode whatsoever, and have to switch to other servers, where the ping is so bad it's almost unplayable. But it is still fun. I also think PVZ Heroes was awesome and should get a revive. I mean I even made fanfiction of the game 6 years ago before I stopped, the game has surprisingly big potential for lore drops.
Seeing the GW1 footage reminded me of my days playing the game on the PS3, being horrible. I never realized how much… darker(in a lighting way) the game was in comparison to GW2(or bfn for that matter)
It would be amazing for a new pvz shooter to come out! I enjoy all the games, but the shooters are my favorite of the bunch. I personally enjoyed bfn but would rather a potential new game be more similar to garden warfare. Here's to hoping EA sees just how successful a new pvz shooter could be!
If they do a third game (which I doubt they will but I hope to God they will) I hope the cosmetics are better, that’s one of the few things gw2 did worse then the other two games
I hope they also bring back unique abilities tied to the overhaul cosmetics (like plasma pea, Alien Sunflower, etc), because in Neighborville they didn't change the way the plants attacks worked at all from what I remember
The only downside of it being released on steam is if this game doesn’t get anymore updates us console players can never play the turf takeover again without having to go into mixed mode
This is totally off topic but The first 2 games especially the first one to me felt like playing tf2 It wasn't a sweaty shooter ye it had its sweaty players but the game was fun there would sometimes have that tf2 moment were both teams would just do random shit and for young me it was a blast And i remember that (some years ago) ppl on the xbox were still getting full lobbys on the first game while in the second half full on a good day It was most of my early teen and late childhood to go game its a damn good gam Edit: oh and not to mention this game has a huge brasilian following somehow I still think it does?
The best thing about BFN is that you could put 3 acorns ontop of Oak and then becoming a infinite healing 4 turret killing machine. (I own the game on PS Switch Steam and EA please help)
wait i never knew pvz bfn is free i mean i buy the game from a shady online store for 60$ becouse i dont have gamestop in Indonesia that are close to my area
I know most don't believe a gw3 happening after BFN, and that's honesty the smarter mindset to have due to how unrealistic it is, but things like this make me like to believe 3-5 years down the line they announce one, I like to imagine how it would go down.
If garden warfare 3 was a thing i always wanted like more collab variants like cheetos and aquafina i even drew a marvel based collab as a kid with an all star variant called hulk star and a pea variant called spider pea
Getting rid of subclasses was one of the worst parts, also there's bare exploration, BFN was a flop, Popcap needs to go to old roots and take ideas from their player base, and cut EA out
@@flumpicesphone2490 I mean if they added a gamemode for rogue like type of gameplay it would be great but I don't see how it would fit in PVZ GW3 unless they toke inspiration from PVZ mobile games.
@@verex6247 well, not gw3, maybe a different spin off that is entirely a rougelike genre, but we’re really just voicing our wishes over here, EA/PopCap will never make one
SO THAT'S WHY THERE WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE! (you can skip this part if you want, is just for context) When i obtained my Xbox, like 4 years ago, i sold my retro consoles in order to afford a single triple A game with the console... I decided by PvZ GW2... What i coincider, one of my best investments... That game bringed so many good times to me. I keept playing until around 3 or 6 months after Tales of the Taco, since i was moving and didn't had much time to play, February of this year i managed to organize my things, but one of my beloved ones passed away, so, i picked up the Xbox to feel better. A few weeks ago, i plugged in my external memory to the console, subscribed to Gamepass and saw the game on the library. I opened the game. The multiplayer portal was working pretty fast. Until now, i was confused about why, the last thing i knew was that some bot named Dave was reproducing a pre-made list of monthly events, i now have better understanding about the situation, thanks! I really hope they re-anounce community events, mistery portal weekly and Halloween/Holyday updates, if they don't, I'm happy if the community keeps the game alive!.
BFN just goes to show they had tons of potential with GW2 to make it even better like GW2 did with GW1, but just took out some of the best parts and added in unnecessary stuff instead. As legendary as GW2 is (I’ve nearly maxed out two accounts, lol) it still has some improvements that I’m sure anyone could see that could be made. Notably, glitches and balance changes. I just wish BFN could’ve taken this direction instead. While I doubt the shooters, or PvZ as a whole, has much of a future, it’s telling that they chose to revive the game somewhat by putting it on steam. And yes, EA doesn’t care much for a dead game that’s highly loved as it doesn’t make them much money. But they might be able to see through the failure of BFN and see a dedicated player base on GW2 still remaining, probably forever. Seeing the downgrade and negativity on some of PvZs latest work is unfortunate, but I still think they can turn things around. Even if they continue with the BFN and PVZ3 kind of art style, they can still make some good games, I’m sure of it. So while the future of the shooters isn’t clear, I don’t think it’s impossible to see something come of it. I’m still here with all of you guys
@@Oskar.G Yea the infinte waves of garden ops was really great about GW1, and the gamemode where u conquer areas as a zombie forget what it was called but it was much better in pvz gw 1.
Imagine Gaming Companies would stop to change things randomly without any reason to something that 80% of the Playef Base dont like. I cant fucking understand where the problem is???
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the new steam players have already left the game… they released it on steam like a month or two ago and for a week and a half the servers were almost always full of players to the point that nobody could join games, and the player count hit an all time high of 4,000 something like that. 3 or so weeks ago, the playerbase died down by a few thousand players. maybe ea will notice how much better gw2 has been performing than bfn ever did, but honestly i think that’s being a bit optimistic
This is a totally reasonable point, but I think that its fun to discuss that there is a chance or EA even entertained the idea of reviving the shooters again! It shows how even the biggest companies can change their minds about something (sometimes its for the money of course).
@@Oskar.G it's always for the money
I mean, the game is still increidbly active and alive on pc. You can find a lobby pretty fast.
Man
@@NUKCYNDv for someone in australia, i can only find a lobby in american servers since nobody plays in my region. still cool there’s still players in the first place though
GW2 was extremely fun - the lobby has so much to do, there was secret content to unlock like Torchwood and Hovergoat, and it still had the unique variants, but BFN had some really out there ideas which I wouldn’t mind seeing in some kind of GW3.
I liked the idea of the Swarm class (never played it, but it looked really interesting), the combo classes are an interesting idea, and… didn’t they have new characters on the way or something?
I remember seeing leaks for multiple more legendary upgrades like vinyl disc peashooter, shotgun oak, ricochet laser soldier, and characters like mini gargantuar, super bean, berry brigade, and iceberg lettuce
I really liked the upgrade system, i would like to see that
They added Wizard Zombie. Dude, this guy was extremely fun to play. I don't even have words to explain how cool he was.
Generally, BFN had gigantic potential but EA ruined it
@@nepemaster4674 Upgrade system wasn’t liked because it replaced the variants system which quite a few people also liked. They could tone down the effects and make it more broad, or they could go nuts and make an upgrade tree specific to each variant, either way, I’d at least like to see variants return, whether or not they keep upgrades around
Upgrades system, unlimited sprint, progress, skins, the story mode... BFN is a good game, but could've been better
Based off of this game getting updated, I hope that they pay attention to games such as PVZ2 and PVZ heroes. PVZH has a large fanbase and it needs an update or new cards to keep the fanbase engaged
Totally agree! PvZ Heroes is so underrated!
@@Oskar.G it is underrated but *solar flare and green shadow* are very popular for some specific reasons that we may or may not know lmao
@@ekandll oh no not that side lol
@@ekandll *you didnt need to do this you know*
@@ekandll nightcap tho
How to get people to come back to your old game: *Make the sequel worse*
Game Design 101
Disney 101
Lmao so true
Basically sonic games (except the classic platformer ones)
@@RealValkor em no.
Dropped in here just to say this game is a masterpiece.
As a pvz enthusiast, i wholeheartedly agree
And bfn sucks
@@dehydrated1 eh. It’s definitely not as great as GW and GW2, but I still like the Open World concept and the new characters. Still, it would’ve been a better idea to just make a GW3 or GW2 dlc that adds the Open world maps and other characters.
1st one was better
@@garrettperry1038 idk, i can't really choose between them. They're that good. Except bfn. That s**t was A$$.
The community would be in a whole different situation if the release order was BFN, GW, and then GW2
I say this to a lot of my friends and we have fun conversations, basically bfn would probably be rated good but still 3rd instead of garbage and 3rd
It would have been debatable because people would be used to BFN (because GW doesnt come out) but when they release GW, people would probably question why the crap the graphics are horrible and the controls are much different. once GW2 comes out, people would probably question why theres a sequel, but would probably like it some because its.. well.. an improvement lol
they fkd up the franchise with BFN
@@justa_user solution, give BFN the same graphics as the garden warfare games and keep the sprinting in garden warfare games
@@sharpyboy5084 pretty much :P idk about playstyle tho. BFN's playstlye is based of competatively using abilities and playing smart, while GW(2) is primary fire galore
I hope that this release on steam means that gw2 will start getting new updates. It’s unlikely, but I can hope.
Well, the fact that EA actually came back in january-february of 2022 to fix rux, we can only assume it is possible for EA to come back to the franchise and still give updates. They fixed Rux this year, they are now coming back to fix turf takeover. I see a glimmer of hope that there is potential for either a new game or adding support once again.
I'll save you some heartbreak and tell you now it's never getting updated again
I don't see hope for it. Mainly because the ones who made the shooters left.
I would like to see a buff for electro Citron that at least makes him usable
@@limepie3801 It gets updates, but only bug fixes and support for SteamDeck.
Battle for neighborVille had some good things about it but overall garden warfare was much better. Wizard was really fun to play as but not against.
BfN was fun at parts, but its a game that I cannot play for more than 2 hours without losing my mind
Yeah, i for example love the heroes concepts, they all feel unique and fresh to the GW table (except Wildfower and Tv head, we dont talk about them)
Sunflower can fuck of in that game
(how about we talk about the wizard, ontop of a brainbasher 3000 player)
@@Oskar.G why doe, i thought it was pretty fun, imean i havn't played GW2 before bfn but i just can't get into GW2 anymore after getting used to the faster nature of bfn, it feels like going from apex legends back to cs go
It's a shame bfn was so bad, I liked the new characters, but it just wasn't worth playing outside the story mode imo (and even then it wasn't that good).
I actually didn't find it that bad. In fact, I enjoy it.
@@Otherface I enjoyed it for a while, but I quickly ran out of things to do
It wasn't actually bad it just wasn't as good as garden warfare 2
@@idontknowwhattonamemyselfonyt yeah, I'd say that's a better way of putting it
It would've gotten better with updates, but knowing "PopCap good, EA bad," they would just get a bunch of hate for no reason, so it was canceled. Most people with logical arguments complained about variants though, so I don't know why they couldn't have just listened instead of ABANDONING THE WHOLE GAME.
Already 6 years? Man I hope this game franchise makes a comeback. I've played almost all the pvz games.
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I am HOPING that they continue the shooters and ya made me hyped!
I really do hope so too! Me and my mech figurine are waiting for GW3 lmao. PvZ is a big franchise so its possible for anything (good or bad) to happen!
Exactly!!
doubt, popcap Vancouver is dead
I still want garden warfare 3
pvz shooters devs left
I really feel like BFN made us all realize how good GW2 was. At least for me, I got back into GW2 after BFN was such a disappointment. I really hope that we get a game that has some of the balance changes from BFN, but keeps all the good stuff from GW2
rip gw3
BFN was fun for the switch atleast, put a good 150 hours into it, And it’s fun for what it is I guess, GW2 is still better but the cosmetics in BFN have to return, they were so much better
No , gw2 is far superior than bfn, if there's another shooter it should avoid getting inspiration from bfn, the only good thing was the campaign and the giddypark and maybe the sprint mechanic.
This game needs a revive, it’s too good to let die. It’s my damn childhood. It’s Overwatch BUT FUN! (OW is good competitively it’s hard for me to just have fun in it). This video encapsulated this pretty well (but you do repeat some stuff so it could use a bit of polishing, other than that it’s really good.)
I agree with you and thanks for the feedback bud!
Only problem with it is the cheaters.
but with friends and playing garden/graveyard ops never fails to be fun
On October 8th Overwatch 2 is coming out. I played the Beta and oh my god it feels so much better, its actually playable again. Love to see a fellow Gw and Ow player
@@TSGC16 GW is more fun than OW tho
@@Heei3 Its more consistently fun than OW however peak OW is the most fun
I don't want them to make 3 they are so out of touch with what made them great just like the rest of the gaming industry and EA fired the main creator of gw2 If i was working for them I would just update gw2 and the player base would come back strong if they add more more shit and doing community events and new maps new modes and bring everything offline too and see how that goes for a while then make gw3 after a few years more people would buy the game and bring new people to game its not that hard to understand what the community want for the game
That is a very valid point my friend! The situation is just a little bit sad at this point now :(
Its so dumb that they dont at least add a couple new things to the game every few months, they already have the code and models but they refuse to do anything with it. GW2 was the most popular version of pvz shooters and it'll keep that way
@@Oskar.G I know it really is a shame but it is quite suspicious that they would put it on Steam maybe they are seeing what to do next
@@nglish6905
Hell yes they do but it's not PopCap its EA who makes those kind of dumbass decisions but EA is losing its grip on the industry very fast sooner or later Microsoft is going to buy them out. sadly the new era of games is about Graphics and Money not about fun and experience anymore
They aren't fired they all are at dice
I just want the fun game modes to come back like dino vs cats, boss hunt, soil survivors, battle of exploding hero’s and etc. that’s all I want like at least add them even if it’s solo play
I know, they're fucking idiots, would it hurt to give us a good rotation of town hall modes, like for real all it takes is just one employee at ea to decide a good mode and put it on once a month, it would not take much but ea are the most stubborn money grabbing fools I'm tired of the same modes in town hall over and over just give us boss hunt and soil survivors and I'm happy
That's sadly a mod , it should be official because boss hunt achievements are now just flawed..
This is literally one of my favorite third person shooters of all time, honestly.
Fr as a day 1 pvz player i can confirm that EA is just stupid
The problem with battle for neighborville is fight system, it feels so weird and that you can also now sprint with character. Also I like the charakter designs from GW2 way more.
I like specifically roses design from gw2 over the BFN, her face in BFN is awful
All the battle for neighborville characters looks low quality compared to the garden warfare ones.
@@icediamondshark4010 imo the engineer is only one that actually looked better than the original
@@starkiller6tothe9gaming81 I agree on that. Engineer is better in bfn.
@@starkiller6tothe9gaming81 Scientist is a chad because he never actually changed; he just got more polished, nothing else, and I really like that about him.
FunFact: PopCap planned on eventually adding new game modes and character variants to BFN, but EA saw it was failing (even though it’s been 3 months) and decided to take control over it and introduced micro transactions instead and abandoned it.
FunFact#2: PopCap was celebrating GW1 hiring 8Million players…..then EA came in and told them to stop showing support to that game.
FunFact#3: EA abandoned GW2 simply because they saw the community was happy how the game was….then they proceeded to nerf crap and get rid of community challenges and boss hunts just to dip and work on a worse game.
EA.
You gotta love them.
At this point EA should come clean and admit they screwed up.
Source?
@@Lazekillerwhale "uhhhh ea bad popcap good!"
Me after spreading misinformation over the internet:
Id love to see if they somehow fused gw and gw2 together because i love the older graphics made it have a feel as if the plants were more realistic and the maps OH the maps
I hope EA makes a new Garden Warfare game and bring the BFN characters to it since the characters were cool and the variants could really make things interesting.
Snapdragon and Electric boogaloo would really complicate variants, like the game was designed against variants
If they do make GW3 i hope they use BFN graphics, Hud and movement, use GW2 gameplay with classic maps and new ones, add a new character to the Base roster on GW2 with a character from BFN (Snap Dragon and The Zombie Wizard guy) keep the variants, i would like them to add Killstreaks (Vanquish streaks bc PvZ 😂) jus imagine a Carrot masked as a AC130
I hope GW2 gets revived because it was the first real online game I ever played and is pretty special to me. I’d love to see it return.
Same to me
If GW1 and GW2 are revived like a lot on Xbox, I’m gonna start playing Hard and Crazy Mode on each of them no matter what players they are. I’m glad this game is “being revived by EA”.
I wouldn't exactly call it reviving, a few weeks before it was announced for Steam I played for a few hours over the course of a couple days, and the lobbies were still active (at least the server I was in)
Yep. GW1 still has active servers. Can't see why they don't update GW2
Yeah
I'm on xbox and bfn had active servers gw1 doesn't for me
@@soliduszor Gw1 is dead because gw2 is like the same price and better
I remember how it took them years to update GW2 with Twilight Chomper lol. And even then Twilight Chomper was just Unicorn Chomper with a different version of it's rainbow dash
GW2 and GW have always been the better quality, more hyped, and all-around more loved games. I think what really drove people away, including myself, from BFN, was the fact that they removed most of the things that made GW2 and GW so amazing. What REALLY drove me away though is the removal of variants. I just want to play Snow Peashooter, is that too much to ask!?!? I also found the storyline for BFN really... boring.
I still wish they would bring back GW1. Obviously 2 is better, but 1 has a great style and great maps, and I just wish they'd combine the best parts of the two.
I’ve had my personal thoughts about each game and here’s some of them
1. I like the online lobby thing,but I really love garden warfare 2’s lobby.
2. I dislike certain character variants I loved being gone,including berry peashooter,lime cactus.
3. I love the swarm class idea.
Gw2 was absolutely legendary, i been a pvz fan ever since i was 6 after playing OG Pvz and I’m glad a fun game is somewhat getting more popular again. Though BFN is garbage, they removed variants etc. and EA stopped developing it which they should have.
I came up with a pvz game with full voice acting called plants vs zombies vangaurd, it's like a turn based combat were you can play as a plant or zombie, it reintroduces some of the old gw characters like captian smasher, sasquach, pumpkin squash, and hypnosis flower, as well as many of the old variants
great video and much info across the subject
thanks! I try my best :D
I wish they could take some of the best features from neighborville (the sprinting option, the new characters, and other things), slap some variants onto the new characters, and add them to GW2
gw2 is a masterpiece thanks
Yea I still play it like almost everyday
I love these games. Even BFN. I actually got the platinum in that one. I play either that or GW2 almost every day. The steam release gave me hope, so let's keep our appendages crossed!
People trash on battle for neighborville way too much dude 😒
Exactly people always call bfn trash because they always compare it to gw2 when the games are nothing alike. Another reason why many trash on the game is because youtubers like wolfy and zero dont like it.
@@lceGhost Yea, they tried to go for something different, and that's good, I like the designs, characters, and abilities, sure some things are taken out but that's the whole point of the game being different.
Fr, and most of the people trashing it don't even own the game
@@Zhirst exactly, for months I've played GW2, I decided to go back to battle for neighborville, and it's very enjoyable, it's hard to get bored since there's so much to do in the game.
I have over 500 hours in BfN and while I really enjoyed the gameplay and found the removal of variants a nice change, most people didn't.
As someone who loves PvZ and shooters, one of my biggest wishes is to experience these games before they die. Never got my hands on a XB1/PS4 or any gaming PC these past years.
its VERY alive on ps4 still
@@nglish6905 Hell, GW1 is still alive too on PS3.
Coming to say as a 2014 gw1 player, the game was AMAZING when it hit it's high in the community, people were making loads of content, all game modes were full of people and friendly competition, they were getting sponsors and adding completely new things! Heck the even had a community event and the winner got to put in their very own variant idea for a class (Plasma pea won), now all that's left is a couple turf servers, maybe a team vanquish or ops if your playing midday when the games most active, pc cheaters and every other game mode that isn't a main one like ops or turf is completely empty and left on waiting for players. The only time you will see the game active now is when a large pvz community bands together to all get onto the same platform and the same game mode to re-live the times when the game was a internet sensation. One actually happened a few months ago with capture the taco and for the first time in probably years there was a full lobby, and at that there was multiple full lobbies
please dont be a ea bad popcap good person
Garden Warfare 2 was my childhood. All I want is to replay the game like it was before.
Yeah no. This game is most definitely near the end of its life cycle. The only thing left is the servers.
I had such a good time in gw2 its really devastating to hear from ea that they dont see a future for it, but otherwise i am happy to hear that people still play this game after such a long time
I'm glad PvZ BFN is getting a upgrade again! Can't wait to play and do more things!
please be let there be a new plants vs zombies shooter game. plants vs zombies battle for neighborville is the worst 3rd shooter game EA has ever made. plants vs zombies garden warfare and plants vs zombies garden warfare 2 are the best shooter games EA has ever made.EA needs to make a new better plants vs zombies shooter game. is EA ever going to ever make a new plants vs zombies shooter game?
Tbf, PvZ shooters were some of the best games EA made quality-wise during these times. I just hope we can see those games again one day!
A new shooter would be a disaster. Just update gw2 from now on with little dlcs
They messed up by not having enough servers so people left due to not being able to get into servers, now in Australia there are no active lobbies :/
Literally stop blaming ea for everything. It was popcap who developed the pvz shooters and made all the in-game decisions NOT ea
i think you forgot that ea owns pop cap and is in charge of basically all the business decisions of their games now
I agree with @chatarrra EA owns PopCap and they are influencing it in a negative way, the problem is comes from the higher ups, whom are the executives at EA.
I think the shooter games would have absolutely skyrocketed for PVZ if they made BFN in a similar style to GW2 like making it look similar and keeping variants, the character upgrade system and the sticker packs but also adding features like giddy park and the campaign maps like town centre and dreadwood forest
I totally agree, but I think that the game needed to change a bit to be relevant for longer, however the changes that were made, were in the wrong direction :(
i dont think their shutting the servers down for a few more years because they just released the port so this atleast can show that the servers will atleast be up for a few more years
you know, pvz shooters were amazing until bfn, like i guess it might be milking it but bfn was like, milking terribly cause they got rid of so much of the good things like the variants and just tossed the balancing out the window, the game didn't die cause people were getting tired of pvz shooters, it was cause the game was awful in comparison with the 2 much better shooters
I was a big believer in BFN initially because it had so much potential! Shame that it all got wasted...
@@specialism640 the campaign definitely needs more work, all 4 basically follow the same mission pattern and aren't very different in each other besides the environment being different so it gets boring quickly after you finish one
The campaign felt repetitive in a boring way. They didn't add variants which was the core of GW1, GW2, and they made the game much more faster which doesn't suit the playstyle of PVZ.
This aged soo well
at best theyre adding an anti-cheat and killing bug fixing mods not planning on fixing it(not a gw2 modder, but still)
Plants versus zombies garden warfare, two is one of my favourite games of all time I have been playing it consistently for years. I really hope they update it and add things like new characters and more customisation just as long as that doesn’t mean micro transactions Galore
Even if it's now just a small influx of new players, I do think it's nice that I won't see a hacker every game I join
I hope this opportunity to see GW2, an older game compared to PVZ 3 and BFN, is doing better than the other two combined despite being a 6 year old game will make Popcap look back and revive other games in the PVZ franchise. I was a bit unlucky because I bought the gme on origins at that same discount, but Steam is just much more superior of a launcher overall anyways. For me personally, the game is amazing up until you hit multiplayer. As an asian, I found absolutely 0 players on any gamemode whatsoever, and have to switch to other servers, where the ping is so bad it's almost unplayable. But it is still fun. I also think PVZ Heroes was awesome and should get a revive. I mean I even made fanfiction of the game 6 years ago before I stopped, the game has surprisingly big potential for lore drops.
Seeing the GW1 footage reminded me of my days playing the game on the PS3, being horrible. I never realized how much… darker(in a lighting way) the game was in comparison to GW2(or bfn for that matter)
I'm surprised I can still find full GvG lobbies in PvZ:GW1. Not that I'm complaining.
I still love to play GW1 from time to time, whether its garden ops with the boys, or just multiplayer
It would be amazing for a new pvz shooter to come out! I enjoy all the games, but the shooters are my favorite of the bunch. I personally enjoyed bfn but would rather a potential new game be more similar to garden warfare. Here's to hoping EA sees just how successful a new pvz shooter could be!
Our only hope to see a new pvz shooter is if pvz 3 pops off but its a really small chance
9:06 VENEZUELA NOOOOO!
Lol
It's...
Getting revived...?
Finally, my favorite game for a long time
Good to see ya back
Mate this has to become the team fortress 2 for EA. A Game that refuses to die
GW2 was peak PVZ
I loved this game to pieces
Sad to see it die down like this. I would cry with Joy if it ever returned
I think you should increase the video audio
The preview audio was good. That one was on me, next vid will be better!
@@Oskar.G thank you. The video quality is awesome just the audio is alittle small
The only thing I didn’t like abou BFN was that they removed the variant of each class. I miss the vampire flower and alien flower variants.
this aged very well
Are you being sarcastic?
GW2 is such a great game probably one of my top 5 games
If they do a third game (which I doubt they will but I hope to God they will) I hope the cosmetics are better, that’s one of the few things gw2 did worse then the other two games
Yeah but atleast it had legendary hats
I hope they also bring back unique abilities tied to the overhaul cosmetics (like plasma pea, Alien Sunflower, etc), because in Neighborville they didn't change the way the plants attacks worked at all from what I remember
ya the cosmetics weren't that good you could make the toxic pea look just like the normal pea and it is insane
@@TheRealBoredshark how
If this game gets updated its gonna be crazy.
we can only pray for a battle for neighborville 2 🙏🙏🙏
I liked garden warfare 1 more personally but garden warfare 2 has so much more to do overall I think
this didnt age well
Lol
The only downside of it being released on steam is if this game doesn’t get anymore updates us console players can never play the turf takeover again without having to go into mixed mode
The only reason no one’s playing it is because there’s no updates they need to realise that
This is totally off topic but
The first 2 games especially the first one to me felt like playing tf2
It wasn't a sweaty shooter ye it had its sweaty players but the game was fun there would sometimes have that tf2 moment were both teams would just do random shit and for young me it was a blast
And i remember that (some years ago) ppl on the xbox were still getting full lobbys on the first game while in the second half full on a good day
It was most of my early teen and late childhood to go game its a damn good gam
Edit: oh and not to mention this game has a huge brasilian following somehow
I still think it does?
I'm sad that nobody likes bfn because.... it's my favorite game of the series, you can call me crazy but it's true
Absolute Chad
Reasons
only reason i dont like it is because variants went poof
This game will always be a gem and I hope that they make GW3 one day…
The best thing about BFN is that you could put 3 acorns ontop of Oak and then becoming a infinite healing 4 turret killing machine.
(I own the game on PS Switch Steam and EA please help)
i came back to pvz gw 2 and its a blast, its great to see people on the game again
I'm still playing this game, it's fantastic.
is it have any support from EA mate?
@@tomaszp3990 I wish it got more support from ea tho
7:21 lmfao if this was actually true i wouldnt find 6 completely full lobbies in a row in only one region
I like how there is just one AI running the shooters.
wait i never knew pvz bfn is free i mean i buy the game from a shady online store for 60$ becouse i dont have gamestop in Indonesia that are close to my area
They probably just want money, it's ea
its more likely for sure, but its fun to think about the other options since they aren't off the table!
@@Oskar.G yea i guess
popcap good ea bad
@@buckethead_cdsonic mega fax
@@aplasticcontainer not fax
I really want them to update PVZ BFG more, there's sooo much potential for it now!
I hope the franchise doesn't die.
EA killed the gw games
I know most don't believe a gw3 happening after BFN, and that's honesty the smarter mindset to have due to how unrealistic it is, but things like this make me like to believe 3-5 years down the line they announce one, I like to imagine how it would go down.
Deserved sub.
Good vid.
This is Mr.Turtle. Mr. Turtle is cool, be like Mr. Turtle!
If garden warfare 3 was a thing i always wanted like more collab variants like cheetos and aquafina i even drew a marvel based collab as a kid with an all star variant called hulk star and a pea variant called spider pea
Love the vid good and informational
Gw2 is the most nostalgic and best game ever.
I have it on Xbox but ima get it on steam.
I liked every comment like a psychopath.
I liked this comment, so I don't have to like every comment like a psychopath 😂
The best PvZ Garden Warfare game was the original. I still sometimes go back and play it if I'm bored.
BRO I SOO AGREE
God the nostalgia of gw1 having a fully royal peashooter just running around having fun in the unique game
Getting rid of subclasses was one of the worst parts, also there's bare exploration, BFN was a flop, Popcap needs to go to old roots and take ideas from their player base, and cut EA out
Pop cap physically can not cut EA out because EA owns them
@@giannismith5041 in general I wish EA didn't exist
@@TheHomosexualNarrator agreed
They are not reviving this game
Am I the only one that hopes for an open-world like pvz game??
That could be interesting, I think rouge like aspects would be a cool addition
@@flumpicesphone2490 I mean if they added a gamemode for rogue like type of gameplay it would be great but I don't see how it would fit in PVZ GW3 unless they toke inspiration from PVZ mobile games.
@@verex6247 well, not gw3, maybe a different spin off that is entirely a rougelike genre, but we’re really just voicing our wishes over here, EA/PopCap will never make one
SO THAT'S WHY THERE WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE!
(you can skip this part if you want, is just for context)
When i obtained my Xbox, like 4 years ago, i sold my retro consoles in order to afford a single triple A game with the console...
I decided by PvZ GW2... What i coincider, one of my best investments... That game bringed so many good times to me. I keept playing until around 3 or 6 months after Tales of the Taco, since i was moving and didn't had much time to play, February of this year i managed to organize my things, but one of my beloved ones passed away, so, i picked up the Xbox to feel better.
A few weeks ago, i plugged in my external memory to the console, subscribed to Gamepass and saw the game on the library. I opened the game. The multiplayer portal was working pretty fast.
Until now, i was confused about why, the last thing i knew was that some bot named Dave was reproducing a pre-made list of monthly events, i now have better understanding about the situation, thanks!
I really hope they re-anounce community events, mistery portal weekly and Halloween/Holyday updates, if they don't, I'm happy if the community keeps the game alive!.
BFN just goes to show they had tons of potential with GW2 to make it even better like GW2 did with GW1, but just took out some of the best parts and added in unnecessary stuff instead.
As legendary as GW2 is (I’ve nearly maxed out two accounts, lol) it still has some improvements that I’m sure anyone could see that could be made. Notably, glitches and balance changes. I just wish BFN could’ve taken this direction instead.
While I doubt the shooters, or PvZ as a whole, has much of a future, it’s telling that they chose to revive the game somewhat by putting it on steam. And yes, EA doesn’t care much for a dead game that’s highly loved as it doesn’t make them much money. But they might be able to see through the failure of BFN and see a dedicated player base on GW2 still remaining, probably forever.
Seeing the downgrade and negativity on some of PvZs latest work is unfortunate, but I still think they can turn things around. Even if they continue with the BFN and PVZ3 kind of art style, they can still make some good games, I’m sure of it. So while the future of the shooters isn’t clear, I don’t think it’s impossible to see something come of it. I’m still here with all of you guys
Remove the word “game” and EA suddenly becomes quite a wholesome company
I genuinely don’t remember why I subscribed to you, but I’m glad I did.
This was an interesting discussion.
tbh the first shooter was my childhood favourite
Bro the first background music made him sound like an npc explaining the lore
Wow EA definitely revived this game, props to them 🎉🎉🎉
A remaster of the first one wouldn’t be a bad idea
that's actually not a bad idea! Back to basics!
@@Oskar.G Yea the infinte waves of garden ops was really great about GW1, and the gamemode where u conquer areas as a zombie forget what it was called but it was much better in pvz gw 1.
This did not age to well right now.
Imagine Gaming Companies would stop to change things randomly without any reason to something that 80% of the Playef Base dont like.
I cant fucking understand where the problem is???