@@gosmall.livelarge A world famous painter who had a live PBS show on oil painting. He had a patient demeanor such as yours..a very entertaining show.,and a helluva Afro!
You missed the fact that a PX is 18" more van (longer chassis). LOTS more storage. Murphy bed is made and ready and stows fully made with a topper. It's more the just air conditioning... the generator allows totally self-contained weeks at a time. We love our PX! :)
Hi Scott. I recently bought a Solis PX as a poor man's Embassy Dolphin S. I.e., It runs great off grid and has that huge garage in the back. I've been wanting to reach out to you to thank you for all your great videos on Go Small. Live Large! becuase you talked me into moving from a larger Class C to this smaller format, and I'm now getting so much more use out of my RV than ever before. Your video that sealed the deal for me was the one where you showed us how you set up camp. I.e., you turned off your ignition and opened your slider. Voila! Done! Camp Made. We do the same thing now, as we don't need to connect to water, electric or sewer with our Solis PX. Do we wish we had Lithium? Sure. But we're Living Large even without it. Thanks again for guiding us to this place.
would be great if they did the PX with a couch in the back like the P, our main reason for looking at the 59P is the ability to travel comfortably with 5-6 people
I really like the PX. I just can't get past the cassette toilet. I hate the cassette toilet. Too small and I'd be embarrassed 😣 to wheel it to a public bathroom to dump it.
The Truma heats 2.6 gallons of water. When that is depleted one needs to wait until the next 2.6 gallons is hot. When I shower in my van 2.6 gallons is plenty of hot water for a fast shower.
@@gosmall.livelargeThank you so much. I'm learning a lot from your channel, and getting closer to determining which camper van will be right for me. It's also inspiring to see how much you love life on the road. ENJOY!
I just watched another of your videos about your backpack bag. I think I want one after wataching you. You are very good at speaking on your videos Thanks YOu.
Scott, you missed the big difference between the P & PX… the PX is longer by 14” which, not only adds additional length to fit the Onan generator but offers additional space in back for gear, like bikes which can be tied down with the Ram Tracks. Happen to notice Mick wasn’t in the footage this time…camera shy? 😃
Thanks, Scott. Your channel and what we learned from you are some of the reasons we bought our Travato last year (the 2021 59K version is what works for us, we're second owners). We love traveling in it. I'm wondering how many prospective Travato 59G buyers would cross shop the Solis 59px...it seems like the losing the black tank for a cassette results in a good amount of storage. I really like the under the floor storage in the rear of the camper in the Solis. I know the cassette vs black tank is a whole other debate, but to me it seems like swapping one no-fun chore for another equally no-fun chore.
I love my 2021 Solis PX. It has been very reliable and I haven’t been back to the dealer yet for service. The engine generator keeps the AC batteries powered up. With the solar… You did not mention that… I never have a power problem. I travel during shoulder season to avoid summer crowds so I rarely need to stay at sites with hook ups for AC. It is nice to have an AC option. Drawbacks for me have been that bathroom door which we removed, small sink for washing dishes, firm mattress-so I had to add 2 inches of foam which makes it difficult to put the bed up, difficulty accessing storage when the bed is down, extra table in the back is wonky and can fall off frame… Many people just remove it, there is only one drawer in the kitchen, and I would love more. So since I travel solo some, I am so glad that I have had great reliability with this van. I love the wide open bay at the back and we use it like a truck bed for other things. Also, wish they put in a good fan. Good overview on a great van with lots of choices.
If you can get about 25% off or so from MSRP, you are looking at around $113.5k. There's probably some dealer costs in there, so let's say $114k before taxes. Not a bad price for this unit if that includes lithium. Not sure if it's so good if it is just AGM though. Wish you could find out about the insulation provided in these vans too. Would be interesting to see how efficient the A/C is under hotter conditions. Be seeing you!
Gotta go with the PX for not only personal use, but for resale. AC & generator are a MUST plus extra space for bike garage, store screen room or inflatable kayak/paddleboard.
You’re not doing the 59P justice. The bench seat is an option, but most 59P’s I’ve seen have the same Murphy bed and under floor storage that is in the 59PX. The pop-top for both is an option. If the 59P does not have the pop top, there is room for AC, and it is an option. The 59P is on the Promaster 2500 chassis so is about 2 feet shorter than the 59PX which is why generator is not an option. You can’t tell by just looking at it but that vent in the pop-top is not a fan. It’s just an air vent. If someone missed it when the specs scrolled by, the pop-top versions of both have a 220 watt flexible solar panel attached to the pop-top roof. The non pop-top versions have a 170 watt panel on the roof. Also something you wouldn’t notice in a showroom is that none of the vans in the Solis line have an awning. The Solis line is Winnebago’s throwback to the old school “camper van”, as opposed to the glamper vans that are out there.
Would much rather have the Murphy style bed, having lived with a sofa sleeper I definitely would prefer a dedicated bed. Really like that they both have that front dinette area. I think of all the floor plans I’ve looked at, the concept of the front dinette is really a great functional space in a van.
Scott, take a look at some TH-cam videos of the Weinsberg CaraBus, CaraTour, CaraLife. They build on the Ford Transit and Ram Pro master (Fiat Ducato) chassis and all offer a front lounge or as you call it "great room" floorplan. They already build on the Super high roof Ram Promaster chassis, which the American builders won't touch. They put a second bed above the front cab for kids. Another builder Knaus does that too in it's BoxLife❤❤❤ campervan. The Knaus Boxlife 630 ME has a drop down bed in the front dining area and an adjustable height "permanent style" bed in the back with 4 openable awning style windows plus a "great room" or front lounge with 2 additional openable windows and proper (3 point) seatbelts on the front facing second row, all in less than 21 feet
The internal Nautilus system means that water tank, all plumbing and outside shower are inside the heated portion of the coach. Those units also have extra insulation throughout. We live in the SE so that means we don't HAVE to winterize. We fill tank and never hook up to campground water. That allows us to unplug and go!
Those puck lights are ridiculous...need deeper sink...those cabinets open when driving...emergency bathroom...Murphy bed rules I sleep well on them..cassette toilet always wins over black tank..pop top is like camping outside....
You showed the spec sheet of the 59P as having the chassis upgrade but then panned over to the cockpit and it had the old style panel with the smaller screen!
Both great layouts. I wonder if Winnebago has ever looked at composite doors for the bath/shower. This would make it a bit less crowded/complicated in the shower with no curtain. I think it would be a huge improvement to any wet bath.
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I almost feel like Bob Ross is taking me on this tour.
Bob Ross, who is that ?
@@gosmall.livelarge A world famous painter who had a live PBS show on oil painting. He had a patient demeanor such as yours..a very entertaining show.,and a helluva Afro!
These videos are great for supporting my position that Terry Minix is a genius.
right on . he would not disagree with you
You missed the fact that a PX is 18" more van (longer chassis). LOTS more storage. Murphy bed is made and ready and stows fully made with a topper. It's more the just air conditioning... the generator allows totally self-contained weeks at a time. We love our PX! :)
thx for that
Can you use any electrical appliances without the generator, like on the regular P using just solar battery?
Hi Scott. I recently bought a Solis PX as a poor man's Embassy Dolphin S. I.e., It runs great off grid and has that huge garage in the back. I've been wanting to reach out to you to thank you for all your great videos on Go Small. Live Large! becuase you talked me into moving from a larger Class C to this smaller format, and I'm now getting so much more use out of my RV than ever before. Your video that sealed the deal for me was the one where you showed us how you set up camp. I.e., you turned off your ignition and opened your slider. Voila! Done! Camp Made. We do the same thing now, as we don't need to connect to water, electric or sewer with our Solis PX. Do we wish we had Lithium? Sure. But we're Living Large even without it. Thanks again for guiding us to this place.
thx for sharing Bob
Nope, differences are the PX has AC, generator, and extra space in the garage. I have a PX and it's well worth the extral💲.
congrats
would be great if they did the PX with a couch in the back like the P, our main reason for looking at the 59P is the ability to travel comfortably with 5-6 people
I really like the PX. I just can't get past the cassette toilet. I hate the cassette toilet. Too small and I'd be embarrassed 😣 to wheel it to a public bathroom to dump it.
Went traveling in Oregon we see Solis models way more often than Travatos. Very popular with young families.
agree
59P has Murphy bed or sofa bed, 59PX only Murphy. I need 5 seater with AC and generator. Wonder why 59PX doesn't have sofa option.
howdy Velox
Scott while you do this comparison video and other have you thought that you might want some features from one van to be on another?
good point
Good morning Scott ***Is a 36B there to view???
trying to locate one
Is the 59P still only 2.6 gallon hot water tank? (I'm a bit confused on how this works) Thank you so much
The Truma heats 2.6 gallons of water. When that is depleted one needs to wait until the next 2.6 gallons is hot. When I shower in my van 2.6 gallons is plenty of hot water for a fast shower.
@@gosmall.livelargeThank you so much. I'm learning a lot from your channel, and getting closer to determining which camper van will be right for me. It's also inspiring to see how much you love life on the road. ENJOY!
Murphy bed always for me AC for flexibility. Love the music you have chosen to use.
thx !
I just watched another of your videos about your backpack bag. I think I want one after wataching you. You are very good at speaking on your videos Thanks YOu.
Thank you so much Laura
Scott, you missed the big difference between the P & PX… the PX is longer by 14” which, not only adds additional length to fit the Onan generator but offers additional space in back for gear, like bikes which can be tied down with the Ram Tracks. Happen to notice Mick wasn’t in the footage this time…camera shy? 😃
Thx Dan.. Mick was busy that day
Love my Solis 59P!
HI Tom
Thanks, Scott. Your channel and what we learned from you are some of the reasons we bought our Travato last year (the 2021 59K version is what works for us, we're second owners). We love traveling in it. I'm wondering how many prospective Travato 59G buyers would cross shop the Solis 59px...it seems like the losing the black tank for a cassette results in a good amount of storage. I really like the under the floor storage in the rear of the camper in the Solis. I know the cassette vs black tank is a whole other debate, but to me it seems like swapping one no-fun chore for another equally no-fun chore.
Thrilled GSLL helped you in your Van journey. Thx for watching and subscribing :)
The 59P is shorter than the 59PX. The Murphy bed is also standard on the 59P but the couch is a cool option if you need more seats.
Thx for that
Biggest difference is the ram 2500 chassis vs the 3500. 3500 on highway feels 10x better
Thanks Brad
Very nce❤
Good morning from California.😎 I enjoyed your show and now know exactly which Solis I would purchase. Have a great weekend.
Rock on!
I love my 2021 Solis PX. It has been very reliable and I haven’t been back to the dealer yet for service. The engine generator keeps the AC batteries powered up. With the solar… You did not mention that… I never have a power problem. I travel during shoulder season to avoid summer crowds so I rarely need to stay at sites with hook ups for AC. It is nice to have an AC option. Drawbacks for me have been that bathroom door which we removed, small sink for washing dishes, firm mattress-so I had to add 2 inches of foam which makes it difficult to put the bed up, difficulty accessing storage when the bed is down, extra table in the back is wonky and can fall off frame… Many people just remove it, there is only one drawer in the kitchen, and I would love more. So since I travel solo some, I am so glad that I have had great reliability with this van. I love the wide open bay at the back and we use it like a truck bed for other things. Also, wish they put in a good fan. Good overview on a great van with lots of choices.
thx for sharing
If you can get about 25% off or so from MSRP, you are looking at around $113.5k. There's probably some dealer costs in there, so let's say $114k before taxes. Not a bad price for this unit if that includes lithium. Not sure if it's so good if it is just AGM though. Wish you could find out about the insulation provided in these vans too. Would be interesting to see how efficient the A/C is under hotter conditions. Be seeing you!
well said
They do not offer a lithium option, unfortunately
@@hambonelouis That's a shame. Seems a little pricey without lithium.
Gotta go with the PX for not only personal use, but for resale. AC & generator are a MUST plus extra space for bike garage, store screen room or inflatable kayak/paddleboard.
You’re not doing the 59P justice. The bench seat is an option, but most 59P’s I’ve seen have the same Murphy bed and under floor storage that is in the 59PX. The pop-top for both is an option. If the 59P does not have the pop top, there is room for AC, and it is an option. The 59P is on the Promaster 2500 chassis so is about 2 feet shorter than the 59PX which is why generator is not an option. You can’t tell by just looking at it but that vent in the pop-top is not a fan. It’s just an air vent. If someone missed it when the specs scrolled by, the pop-top versions of both have a 220 watt flexible solar panel attached to the pop-top roof. The non pop-top versions have a 170 watt panel on the roof. Also something you wouldn’t notice in a showroom is that none of the vans in the Solis line have an awning. The Solis line is Winnebago’s throwback to the old school “camper van”, as opposed to the glamper vans that are out there.
well said
Would much rather have the Murphy style bed, having lived with a sofa sleeper I definitely would prefer a dedicated bed. Really like that they both have that front dinette area. I think of all the floor plans I’ve looked at, the concept of the front dinette is really a great functional space in a van.
Frisco T !
Scott, take a look at some TH-cam videos of the Weinsberg CaraBus, CaraTour, CaraLife. They build on the Ford Transit and Ram Pro master (Fiat Ducato) chassis and all offer a front lounge or as you call it "great room" floorplan. They already build on the Super high roof Ram Promaster chassis, which the American builders won't touch. They put a second bed above the front cab for kids. Another builder Knaus does that too in it's BoxLife❤❤❤ campervan.
The Knaus Boxlife 630 ME has a drop down bed in the front dining area and an adjustable height "permanent style" bed in the back with 4 openable awning style windows plus a "great room" or front lounge with 2 additional openable windows and proper (3 point) seatbelts on the front facing second row, all in less than 21 feet
Thx Alec
No microwave? Gotta have that and a/c. I agree that Terry Minix is a genius!
right on
No AC, no way!
got it
Prefer the PX with generator and AC
Hi Bob
Why is Winnebago going away from external water fill points? Deal breaker for me
it is a curiosty
The internal Nautilus system means that water tank, all plumbing and outside shower are inside the heated portion of the coach. Those units also have extra insulation throughout. We live in the SE so that means we don't HAVE to winterize. We fill tank and never hook up to campground water. That allows us to unplug and go!
Those puck lights are ridiculous...need deeper sink...those cabinets open when driving...emergency bathroom...Murphy bed rules I sleep well on them..cassette toilet always wins over black tank..pop top is like camping outside....
Thx Bass
You showed the spec sheet of the 59P as having the chassis upgrade but then panned over to the cockpit and it had the old style panel with the smaller screen!
Both great layouts. I wonder if Winnebago has ever looked at composite doors for the bath/shower. This would make it a bit less crowded/complicated in the shower with no curtain. I think it would be a huge improvement to any wet bath.
great idea Frank
Winnebago offers good quality and the best Midwestern Bland interiors!
thx Scott