I watched this on TV and it moved me enough to come back to it. I love how they presented the records from the place her ancestor would have been. I liked how she went back up to the church to support the child's education. I imagine she felt, that since they had presented themselves as holier than thou, and made her feel marginalised, they could at least do something for them. It would have been good if they had traced some of the old lady's family, such as brothers and sisters, to see who would have been there to help and support her. It's a romantic notion to think that this woman survived by herself, but I imagine that either her family, the church or at least one of the child's fathers helped set up the business or in other ways. That's not to take anything anything away from her. Just to give an accurate picture of what really happened. Annie raised an interesting question many of us ask when searching our ancestry. Did the grandchildren ever meet their Grandparents or Great Grandparents. What we need to remember, is that so much movement at this time depended upon the railways. So, the possibility of uniting was much higher than in years prior to the 1850s.
I found it really interesting that you could get help from the church to pay for you children’s education is that era. And then later on a pension very impressed.
I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but they were referring to a government pension, which was part of the wider social welfare reforms of the Liberal Government of 1906-1914. Before that, you didn't get squat, unless you had paid into a annuity, or someone bought you one.
There was a wide spread unrest coming from workers during that era. Some countries have managed to deal with it by creating modern social welfare systems and giving discontent and protesting workers rights, some countries didn't and was toppled by revolutions after World War I added to it. So yes, pension is very impressive, but every government stood on a brink of collapse, some ignored it, and some were forced to look in the face of exploitating of people and try to start to deal with it
There is nothing good about children being brought up without a father and society having to bear the burden of paying for it in the form of higher taxes and higher crime. I am glad the church had the sense to pay for the education of the children, but can't help but believe the children would have been better off having being raised with a father as well. Our society could learn a lot from this and could stop glorifying single motherhood as a good thing, or as something that "isn't anyone's business" when it clearly is.
@@RS-tz2zn I agree, I raised my four alone when their father left, I shudder when women actively try to do it alone, it's not glorious, brave or magnificent it's hard and draining. Another parent is Always best.
@@RS-tz2zn These children had fathers. Where were they? Why did she have to bear the burden of appearing in front of these church men ALONE? Oh but of course I forgot: the guilt is always and solely on the woman's side, right? Men are only victims of their urges. There's no need for them to take responsibility. I'd unhesitatingly and gladly spend every tax dime on single mothers and their children.
The direction of a relationship is solely the responsibility of the man, that is gods devine ordinance...men are the leaders, women are responders to that leadership. When a man beds a woman who is not his wife it is he who is creating the sin for them both, and any offspring of the union
What's wrong with that Kirk session? Nothing. I think it's really a good thing the way they cared. Today noone gets admonished and therefore guided. STDs and single motherhood...oh well, who cares? These people did. And they helped her to educate her kids. That's community.
I don't know who you are, lil mee, but guess you would like single mothers and other assorted poor persons crawling before you. If the shoe were on the other foot, less so.
Lol it takes two to tango, kirk down on the mother what about the men who took part in the begetting of these children, strange they seem to get away scot free. Male spinning tale of marriage only to skive off.
Isabelle was tough, and extremely family oriented. She made sure her children survived and had a better life.
I watched this on TV and it moved me enough to come back to it. I love how they presented the records from the place her ancestor would have been. I liked how she went back up to the church to support the child's education. I imagine she felt, that since they had presented themselves as holier than thou, and made her feel marginalised, they could at least do something for them. It would have been good if they had traced some of the old lady's family, such as brothers and sisters, to see who would have been there to help and support her. It's a romantic notion to think that this woman survived by herself, but I imagine that either her family, the church or at least one of the child's fathers helped set up the business or in other ways. That's not to take anything anything away from her. Just to give an accurate picture of what really happened. Annie raised an interesting question many of us ask when searching our ancestry. Did the grandchildren ever meet their Grandparents or Great Grandparents. What we need to remember, is that so much movement at this time depended upon the railways. So, the possibility of uniting was much higher than in years prior to the 1850s.
Fascinating!
❤️I love you Annie
Annie Lenox mulher admirável linda
I am all teared up watching this. Great Amazing woman.
Your archives are so impressive 😳
Really incredibly fascinating.
"they tried to keep us from each other, said we're not good enough to be lovers" ~ xxx...
Bless her heart ❤️
I found it really interesting that you could get help from the church to pay for you children’s education is that era. And then later on a pension very impressed.
I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but they were referring to a government pension, which was part of the wider social welfare reforms of the Liberal Government of 1906-1914. Before that, you didn't get squat, unless you had paid into a annuity, or someone bought you one.
There was a wide spread unrest coming from workers during that era. Some countries have managed to deal with it by creating modern social welfare systems and giving discontent and protesting workers rights, some countries didn't and was toppled by revolutions after World War I added to it.
So yes, pension is very impressive, but every government stood on a brink of collapse, some ignored it, and some were forced to look in the face of exploitating of people and try to start to deal with it
Interesting i would like to see mine, glad to see that.🤠
Yes, lets put up 10 frickin minutes of a programme, making people want to watch the entire thing, which is not available to the majority of the world.
I am glad I can view from New Zealand without a VPN.
@@dtmora 🤣👍🤣
Quite interesting. Single mothers are tough in their character.
It's pretty disgusting how worked up men get over what people do in bed. It isn't anyone business. Ever.
It is because bad behavior is a scandal.
It is if the parish had to pay for her children and upkeep.
There is nothing good about children being brought up without a father and society having to bear the burden of paying for it in the form of higher taxes and higher crime. I am glad the church had the sense to pay for the education of the children, but can't help but believe the children would have been better off having being raised with a father as well. Our society could learn a lot from this and could stop glorifying single motherhood as a good thing, or as something that "isn't anyone's business" when it clearly is.
@@RS-tz2zn I agree, I raised my four alone when their father left, I shudder when women actively try to do it alone, it's not glorious, brave or magnificent it's hard and draining. Another parent is Always best.
@@RS-tz2zn These children had fathers. Where were they? Why did she have to bear the burden of appearing in front of these church men ALONE? Oh but of course I forgot: the guilt is always and solely on the woman's side, right? Men are only victims of their urges. There's no need for them to take responsibility. I'd unhesitatingly and gladly spend every tax dime on single mothers and their children.
I wonder if Jane Russell is our-time Jane Russell's mother, or grandmother.
Victoria's a recruiter.
Sounds like the dark ages for women.
Teachers and nurses are middle class.
The direction of a relationship is solely the responsibility of the man, that is gods devine ordinance...men are the leaders, women are responders to that leadership. When a man beds a woman who is not his wife it is he who is creating the sin for them both, and any offspring of the union
Disgusting
Same things seem to be still happening in this day and age, so we havent seemed to have progressed very far have we.
I hope you're talking about the man because you know the women always get screwed by this
What's wrong with that Kirk session? Nothing. I think it's really a good thing the way they cared. Today noone gets admonished and therefore guided. STDs and single motherhood...oh well, who cares? These people did. And they helped her to educate her kids. That's community.
I don't know who you are, lil mee, but guess you would like single mothers and other assorted poor persons crawling before you. If the shoe were on the other foot, less so.
Lol it takes two to tango, kirk down on the mother what about the men who took part in the begetting of these children, strange they seem to get away scot free. Male spinning tale of marriage only to skive off.
@@katerinakemp5701 They were going to admonish the men but they ran away and were nowhere to be found
It was just the church getting into everyone's business.
I love Isabelle. How awful is xtianity.