This needs more than dirt. You need a geologist and engineer. Depending on the makeup of the land, you may need pilings driven into the bedrock and geogrid for the retention walls and plant life for soil retention. Otherwise one really good rain season and you're right back to were you started because you put a bandaid on a severed artery.
That’s the problem with all the “washing away” issues. Everyone of them were under engineered. Or involves no engineer at all. His house was a ticking time bomb how he or no one else would see that is beyond me.
I used to live at the bottom of this street in Farmington. We used to play exactly where this house is built. We used to call it the sand pit. It’s also where major flooding took place years ago. Blows my mind that houses are being built up there.
Well they built sand castles in the sand pit...sand castles last longest if you take pictures, cause when the tide comes in , they're history.. Still its great to see the team working to help and if they can get material in there, maybe they'll have some time for some other longer term solutions.
I’ve been a structural engineer for a roads and storm water company for the last 8 years and I cannot believe you tipped some sand over the slope and said “we’ve done some good work”
This is why you hire an engineer before building on a hillside of loose dirt. No rebar was used, anywhere and the retaining walls never had a chance. It's amazing how cheap some people can be only to their own detriment. I can only imagine how many other corners were cut in the construction of this "house" I'd cut my losses and start over.
There might well have been an engineer involved at the start, but it looks like he got some discount contractors, and nobody was checking during construction. I've sent out plans that called for 36" deep, 18" diameter footers, then gone to inspect the carnage after a storm, only to find the crew hadn't even dug the footers 6" deep. Just enough to set a short piece of sonotube on top, pour in some concrete and make it look right for a visual inspection. Footers that should have weighed 750 pounds each weren't even 75 pounds.
@@kd5nrh exactly! People are too quick to judge everything! He knew exactly that he was building on a hillside which is actually doable, just wrong design/planning
No man, I have many doubts an engineer saw this. It's bad from the conception. Is see no signs of forethought. Just a building in the side of a mountain
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You don’t really need an engineer to know that stuff, but yeah. Lots of things are not like they are supposed to be. Unfortunate situation.
Those concrete blocks are called bin blocks and are notorious for not having any retaining structural strength. As a bridge engineer I suggest large Rip Rap and steel sheet piles 2/3 of the height driven into the ground. Hydro seeding is a good start. Adding concrete curbing to limit the water runoff down the hillside will help as well. Keeping the water on the asphalt will be best and letting it run down the driveway.
You read my mind, I read your mind long before I read your comment.. Bottom line, great minds think alike.. Several rows of sheet piles are the only thing that will save the upcoming landslide...
Depends how deep the sheet piles need to go before their into decent beating strata. If your just driving them into gravelly sand they won't last long. Still better than nothing though.
Compaction starts at the bottom of the fill, putting grass, more material or even retaining walls on such a fill can actually make it more dangerous. I would like to see the geology reports and soil's reports on this site. I think there's a much bigger story to be told here. Nothing against your efforts Guy's but your putting a bandaid on a severed limb in the triage stage !
Word of advice. Never cut into a mountain and use the fill to build on. Think of a square cut in half diagonally and used for fill. If this is the case spend some serious money for piers and a serious drainage system underneath the ground and gravel the heck out of it while compacting the heck out of it. Create a slope less than 20-25 degrees and plant rapid vegetation/trees on the soil. Terrence the front and back of the house and stabilizing piers all over the place. Again gravel underneath the home like crazy and ever where else, so the water percolates under the home like a underground creek. Think about buying land behind you if it can be bought. Just a few thoughts.
As a concrete worker and engineer with a few years on the back in the field, I'm stunned by the slab size, and the extreme lack of rebar. ESPECIALLY considering the location. Would also be worried about drainage by the looks of things, that sand..
The whole thing should have been built as a cantilever structure tied down to bedrock. Can't believe there is virtually no rebar. Even if it was made out of self healing water retaining concrete (Xypez or similar) it should still have loads of rebar in there
As an engineer I'd love to see the calcs for this one. I bet some creative engineering was used to get it permited. Unfortunately it's going to take some serious money to get that slope and house stable. Adding more soil only compounds the issues.
My thoughts exactly. I am also a civil engineer specialising foundations and this is as sketch as it gets. Needs to have geotechnical and structural engineers on site. There needs to be piles to secure the slope and most likely some retaining walls. That loose soil is going to do absolutely nothing but add weight to the slip area.
@@carholic-sz3qv Sure there is. The area is known for earth movement. Granted they could have done a much better job mitigating it, but nature will win this one. There should be piles all over that area.
This is not a fix. Your first problem is the lack of vegetation on this hillside causing reels and gully’s to form. If the quality of the soil does not allow vegetation growth, rock stabilization structures are your next move just to protect the hillside. Nonetheless, benching out a hillside for a house basically creates a man made landslide that never stops falling. When you add more weight to a hillside that has been cut out, it makes the toe of that slope kick out. Thus what you see causing the top to sink. Rule of thumb: don’t bench out a sandy mountain to build a house….
My first thoughts were..."that may not be a great place for a house"...and..."aren't you supposed to consult an engineer before you build a house like that?"
There's a reason we call that area "The Sand Pit". People have been trying to build on that and some neighboring slopes for decades. Many gave up. It looks like you finally found a geographical surveyor to do what you ask instead of what's right. the houses in Draper that just slid off the mountain are examples of what could happen when you mess with the natural slope of the mountain.
I’m a structural engineer and I promise you if we come back in 2 years….we will see the same equipment only demolishing the ruins into dumpsters, not sure how this was permitted or insured!
@@afriendtoo6971 RIGHT!!!! A few trees and maybe some grass would of slowed if not stopped it! digging out the sand and loosening it then not replacing the ground cover = its going to wash away thats why fires in the mountains are so dangerous because they kill everything that hold the soil in place!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t do dirt work for a living, but i have lived on the sides of mountains my whole life lol so this is just a suggestion, but i think the focus should be more behind the house routing water away from the home and driveway…also I think more stair steps cut on the slopes & more retaining walls would slow the water erosion significantly in those areas.
Your suggestion is a great idea and something that I have required in similar situations with steep slopes. By the way, I am a licensed professional engineer with geotechnical experience, but I wouldn't touch this job with a 10 foot pole.
With all due respect one has to wonder why someone would build a very expensive home in such a precarious position. There goes a sound sleep, worrying if your house will be swept away.
Never underestimate the fail rate of blue collar folks that employ the "fake it till you make it" and "skipping the instruction manual is the first step" types. Some of their ideas will seem pretty solid but might not have a 10 or 20 year longevity, some other of their ideas are so bonkers that even the laborers on specialty trades crews related to what they are doing would scoff and shake their head at the incompetence.
percentages of risk v happiness = failure eventually. chances are it was explained to him but was a risk worth taking as were the houses lower down the hillside
As someone who received a Geology degree in the state of Utah...been known for years the houses going up along the slopes are asking for trouble. Saw several slides take out properties in Ogden during my college years. Hell of a first hand field trip to see the movement of the earth.
@@thelunatick1993 you wouldn’t necessarily need bedrock. stabilizing the slope with steps covers and vegetation plus a proper foundation for the pool would do wonders. as for debris flows: only a giant wall helps you against that.
A couple times up here in Skagit County we have used a machine that pushes 25-to-30-foot rods into the side slide areas to prevent the shifting of slops from moving works very well.
He needs to plant & irrigate the entire hillside from the bottom of the driveway all the way up around the house. Hardy plants that don't take too much water. A combination of bushes, trees, & african grass. It really won't take to much water so long as you coordinate the irrigation system with the weather and only use it during extended dry spells.
That's what happens when you build a house on the side of a mountain dude. Same with houses built along the southeast coast and hurricanes. You shouldn't necessarily expect it, but you also shouldn't be surprised if it happens.
It’s not even the side of a mountain.. it’s a SAND DUNE... it amazes me that anyone allowed a structure to be built on such a loose surface without substantial reinforcement
I feel like an inspector and building planners have some explaining to do… They need to know how to tell people NO you can not build there. It is too unstable.
@@ThatOldStoner The hell it is - within a few years if that, water and gravity will wash and scour out all the dirt supporting it - even if they've managed to drive piles down to bedrock for the main house they'll be left with a house on stilts.
@@chrissampson6861 the house itself will be on pile foundations down to bedrock. It will be fine. If the earth keeps washing away the soil it will eventually be left on the mountain side standing on stilts 😂 all of the external areas should have been supported down to bedrock and designed as cantilevers so if the soil washes out it would still stand up. Doesn't look like there's even that much reinforcement bar in it
Pylons to bed rock and soil nails for the retaining walls, many dollars and no sense usually equal a bad time. I do feel for ya Muscle, I am sure that you thought you were doing the right thing. Hopefully you can get this rectified, beware that you are most likely going to spend as much money shoring up the hill as you did building the entire house.
I have this huge sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. I usually watch your video's and know that all of you will succeed. I'm sure that things seem redeemable in most of your adventures, but this is obviously a huge endeavor, and should have some serious engineers to find a proper solution. I think that lack of vegetation is the least of your worries, structure and drainage is very much need in so many places. I wish all of you the best, this will be the toughest project you've ever encountered.
Yep this is a bandaid on a bullet hole. They need to get a proper geotech survey and report performed and civil engineering firm in there asap or Owner will have a big lawsuit on their hands from the neighbors down the hill. Never build on fill if you can avoid it and dont cheap out on engineers
Have a look at the place looks like rooms apon rooms stacked over each other....looks like the man was try to make the place look as big as possible ...now left with all the drainage errosion etc etc problems people with money an one idea start to endure
I've been pulling levers and playing in the dirt for close to 35 years now. In Florida everything is basically flat but with the ocean and frequent large storms I am well aware of how erosion works. Looks like the muscle has some issues that a little loose dirt isn't going to fix. He needs something with some structure for sure. Sheet piles would be a good start. Definitely need some sort of drainage plan to divert all the water. I don't care if you in Florida or in Utah. Water and loose soil on a slope doesn't work well together, water will always win. Great video nonetheless.
I saw a youtube video the other day with MILLIONS of views recommending to dry pour bags of fence post concrete instead of ordering a truck of engineered mix. -Because "its easier to level" ... SMH
Need to strongly consider benching the slopes so the soil can be compacted in vertical lifts. Once compacted you can cut it to look like a hill again if thats the look desired. Those slopes behind the house need to be addressed ASAP
What you lads have done there is placed a load of unsorted, loose soil on top of loose soil at the crest of the slope… temporary slope works e.g. buttressing (which I assume you are trying to achieve here) should start at the toe of the slope and work your way up by compacting the soil thereby increasing its density and shear strength! Can’t help but think what was shown in the video has actually made matters worse by inducing a load at the top of the slope. As soon as the rain comes, the unit weight of the soil will increase, and the demanding stresses will eventually overcome the shear capacity of the soil leading to a bigger slope failure.. I’d suggest a rethink of the temporary works. But from what can be seen in the video, the remedial works may exceed the value of the property..
In an interview, the muscle said he designed the home and did a lot of the work himself. He threatened to fight one of the contractors. The man built the biggest, heaviest house he could in the worst possible location. He has 200 pound dining chairs and a 14000 pound fountain in the entry. What happens when all the dirt you just added, doesn't hold and buries the houses below him?
Sorry for the such an odd question but do you happen to be Jesca Cluff? Just wondering because I love her photos of products that she does (I’m into photography) and I just noticed that you happen to look a lot like her and thought how awesome and a strange coincidence it would be if you were her, if not I completely get how crazy and strange this question may be haha
The first job I did after graduation was open pit mine. I worked for the engineering firm that was able to stabilize 85 degree 200 foot vertical cut in similar material. We did work along river banks that were 300 feet high with houses on them. If the owner hires the correct engineering firm they should be able to solve the problems. When the house was built the foundation was probably surveyed in. If they come back they should be able to determine if the house is moving. If it is the engineering firm will need to know to set a plan to correct the slope stability. Nice house.
As much as I love Dave, Alan, et al., I was really hoping to see some kind of professional engineer make an appearance in the video. I don't think moving dirt around is going to be enough.
Dave is a good friend to say "I'll bring my team over". A better friend would say, "get professional advice, and then we'll come over and help you implement it"
You can do it no problem, but the issue is the contractor. Cheapest isn't the best, no foundations to speak of so this was a temporary structure essentially.
Those slopes need a really good mixture of stabilising grasses, plants, bushes and deep rooting trees. Ideally it would need much taller engineered retaining walls with proper foundations to create stable flatter areas with correct drainage.
When we saw them digging this spot out of the side of the mountain in Farmington, we couldn’t figure out what on earth someone would be doing up there. Finding out that it was for a house, mind blown. This was my big fear for them. I hope you can get it stable and that it works out well in your favor. Best wishes.
After looking at Google Maps, no one in their right mind would have built a house on basically what is run off dirt and rubble from the mountain but it seems that it is normal as only today a report from the local TV station had video of homes sliding off the mountain this weekend.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
The parable about the man who built his house upon the rock (Alan) verses the man who built his house upon the sand (Keaton) kept playing in my head while I watched this video.
The house may slide down the hill but we gotta make sure the G-Wagon, Sur Rons, and other fancy show of money vehicles are perfectly on display for the drone shots.
I mean lets be honest this all for views, is there an issue with the house sliding of the hill?... maybe. Is Heavy D probably using this help a homie in need, and is able to generate money for his channel at the same time? ......absolutely.
I used to look after land after forest fires in Spain and we would generally plant hemp as a first year emergency measure to prevent erosion on vulnerable slopes. Strong fast growth with long tap and wide lateral roots. Being an annual plant also helped.
@@stephaniejohnson3341 Good point. The areas we covered were pretty dry,hot( over 100F) quite a high altitude with zero vegetation after the fires.. They are remarkably resilient plants..
Hey Dave, tell him also we’re sorry for his troubles, but that’s what happens when you build on the side of a freaking mountain. He needs to take a page out of the Mayen textbook on erosion and landscape control. Those areas that he has excavated need to be terraced without terracing those elevations he will forever have erosion problems.
you need a deadman/ retaining wall on the side of the slope to keep the dirt from sliding. Then back it up with tiers and plants to hold the soil to keep it from eroding. Also, you need a cement ditch to have the water diverted from the back of the house and to run down the street to keep it from soaking up standing water and creating a landslide or create a sinkhole. At the front where you all are working needs the bottom of the retaining walls three-tiered terrace to allow the water to drain from the bottom of the beds.
Rather than just shoving dirt down you should be inserting steel sheet piles, planting trees and other foliage to root up the ground. Hopefully you do that soon and we get to see it all. Good luck Muscle!
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
If you just replace what you lost you're gonna lose it again you need to put piling Down and put drainage tile in to keep the water weight and the dirt from running down the hill
im not in the industry but i was watching this wondering what the purpose of this was lmfao. It seemed to me like you want to drive piles like you said, or anything to help stabilize the dirt from running. I guess plants and trees would do it but not quick enough
Matthew 7:24-26 24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”
This is a heart break for him and his family...Rich guy + bad decisions or not...I hope he saves his home. Heavy D adding loose dirt to that hill is just pissing against the wind.
A wise man built his house upon a rock…. I feel bad for this dude and his mansion of a house but how did you not see this coming when building and designing the house? Blows my mind
I’m sure he paid contractors who should have got permits. I’m not sure how the county or city permitted the pool and driveway without way better retaining walls
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
@@trishabarker9314 more dollars than sense “they know how to do dirt work” Grading for positive drainage is pretty basic but they obviously don’t understand principles of site preparation prior to building on such a loose hillside. Rebar in the concrete solves nothing, just means more cohesive slabs of concrete breaking off after the substrate it is resting on sloughs away.
Well said brother, I find it hard to believe the city gave this a green light or a permit. Just seeing the composition of the dirt pretty much everything needs retaining walls. Hard to believe anyone would think having a exposed slope of that degree would be safe. My area would require a dozen or more terraces to properly secure that slope. Good luck, would love to see a city engineer comment on how this slipped between the cracks.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
@HeavyDSparks Drive some telephone poles in like pilings into the ground on the hill sides after all the patch and packing work is done to reinforce the hill itself. deep angle cut the skinny side of the poles with a chain saw and drive it home. Then besides good deep rooted grass sprayed down, plant some deep rooted trees for the more long term. i live in tx now but where im from we spend a lot of time keeping houses on hills from falling into the Chesapeake Bay. if u can drive the pilings deep enough it'll help hold up the hill big time and in the scope of things a bunch old creosote telephone poles are cheap compared to that big ol house. good luck to your thick ol friend bro and respect to you for helping him out. a true friend move
A Hello and Thank You from an old school retired military geezer (70yrs old). Thank you and your whole crew, even Hans Lol, for what you do. Love Ya Hans. The wife and I watch all your videos all the time. The best of luck with Muscle's house, it's beautiful. Please rethink the drainage.
The answer is to do what California did to a very large hill that kept collapsing on the road next to it. They used the same sort of anchors that they use in mines to prevent the roofs and sides collapsing and combined them with what would be considered french drains that allowed water that soaked into the soil on the hill to drain out and prevented it from cause the soil to expand and become loose and shift easier. The anchors are like the ones they use when they cut the slopes off overpasses to prevent the soil under the roadway from collapsing outward while working on it. They can also use them to anchor retaining walls deep into the hill so soil pressure can not push them out and cause them to collapse.
I seem to remember an old parable about building on sand... a few thousand years ago I believe. The only way to shore that up will be concrete pilings drilled to bed rock with collar ties tying it together. An engineer would be a big asset.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
@@trishabarker9314 How do you know that "He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners!" ?
Respect to heavy D I work with dirt everyday, run excavator, dozer, loader, grader. I always get a kick out of watching these famous TH-camrs run equipment but hats off to heavy d for addressing it that he's not a pro operator and that he knows there will be real operators basically snickering at how him or some of the guys in the video run the equipment well I can tell you heavy d I've seen ALOT worse on job sites, and also the fact that you said at the end I do work with dirt everyday but I do it for fun shut them all up. Respect to the boys who made an attempt and spent the money on helping muscle.
Adding loose dirt on top of already loose, sandy dirt that's eroding/sliding away, and has no pile support foundation. Might as well take the insurance check for the soon to be condemned property and build somewhere else PROPERLY!
I feel bad for the homes below him. He created a nightmare situation for his neighbors with his short sited idiocy. Obviously he cut many corners and hopefully this video gets the property condemned and his neighbors are able to sue him for his negligence of not doing anything to stabilize the hill side before building.
I was an architect in Orange County in the 1970’s. Then residential developers would simply slice pads out of hillsides and shove the dirt further down to make the next pad. Houses slipped down the hills and giant law suits ensued. Today, civil engineers require that the underlying undisturbed hilk side soil be terraced without fill and the final pads be tested to ensure that homes built there are safe.
Why? Why build a big beautiful home on a mountain of sand? Who told Muscle this would be a good idea? Sure, Dave and crew can prolong the inevitable, but eventually, some really difficult decisions will need to be made.
Yep, there's your problem right there lady lol. He should be going the builder to extract some money for piss poor building practices. If you are concreting then you are putting in rebar. No ifs or buts.
I was pretty shocked by that. Almost nothing. That thing should have had a maze of steel in there. I've seen a 6" pour with more steel in it than that "pool"
@HeavyDSparks I don't have college degree in any construction field but I have years of construction experience working on airports runway by ripping them out and laying new runway on top of all sorts of soil types. If its cool with you I'd love to give a suggestion on how to keep the home foundation from completely washing out. In the back yard if its at all possible you build a ditch that arches around the house with a thick layer of soilcrete in front and behind the ditch. Now the specs for the distance of the ditch from the house, the depth of the ditch, the type of foundation the ditch needs and the amount of compaction the dirt need can all be provided by reputable civil engineer. Hope that helps the home owner that lives on the side of the mountain. (Love your TH-cam channel. yall are freakin awsome)
Damn. I’ve seen some bad builds but that’s probably one of the most colossal screw ups I’ve ever seen. The amount of dirt work it’s going to take to achieve proper drainage will probably dwarf what he’s got invested in the whole place. There should have been multiple contractors pointing out the lack of drainage before proceeding. I’m surprised they were even able to get it built without it washing away in the process.
This muscle guy seems like the most level headed out of them. I do feel a little bad for the guy. But he should have chose somewhere in the tree’s. Not sure why people wanna live on the side of a hot ass mountain that gets cold at night and 5ft of snow in the winter 😂
I mean that situation sucks... I am not a professional, but i would say this is because of the lack of trees on this hillside, because the tree's roots normally harden the hillside and prevent it from erosion. I hope the muscle's problem get fixed very soon. PS: if the pool already moved i would also check if the house or the foundation moved and if there are cracks in the house.
Hey y'all, all the way around the back of keaton's house Really needs to have a large diversion ditch with gabion baskets to control the runoff, or he is going to deal with this every heavy snow / rain fall! Thanks for the great video!💚
That is a beautiful home. You know here in Minnesota this was happening to a hospital here. And they built Blocks of Concrete like 40 yard deep and then 30 yards and on down to the street below. And the Mississippi River that runs next to that street.
Associated Press TH-cam channel, there is a short video - Mudslide in Minneapolis along Mississippi - that shows University of Minnesota Medical Center complex West River Road mudslide in 2014.
WOW! I find it hard to believe the contractor didn't put any rebar in the pool foundation. The contractor really needs his license revoked! As for the side of the hill, there is no "cost effective" way to fix it. However, landscaping would have helped with some of the erosion problems. Good luck, Muscle!! I hope someone will be able to come up with a permanent fix!
Helical piers under the pool will help support the weight and prevent it from collapsing because the piers will transfer the weight down to far more stable soil that is dense enough to better support the pool's weight.
The whole site should have been terraced from the beginning, like turning the whole slope into steps all the way down the mountain with irrigation to drain off the water & that's the only way to make it fully stable.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
I love all these guys, but, I got onto The Muscle in one of his recent videos where he said “I did this, look what “I” did”. You sir didn’t do anything, God did. Give him is praise and credit. Now look what “he” has.
Even if he’s 50% dug into the mountain, and 50% out of the natural slope, it’s still gonna slide down, especially bc of what’s below the 50% that’s built outside the slope, bc there’s nothing solid to hold it up, under the built up part, bc it’s dug out underneath that too. He needs serious help imo. I’m not an engineer so idk correct words.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault! But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
Rebar is what gives concrete it's strength, never cheap out when it comes to the steel, because once it's done it's impossible to add more support so always do more than needed.
Hope you all can find a permanent resolution to these issues! Unfortunately, it will keep happening without the proper engineering that is needed for this. Need some substantial drainage on that hillside with pillars
Hydro seeding asap, planting some fast rooting trees or shrubs and giving them the right supply of nutrients and water.. Rerouting of runoff and drain pipes ... Might hold, big might
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This needs more than dirt. You need a geologist and engineer. Depending on the makeup of the land, you may need pilings driven into the bedrock and geogrid for the retention walls and plant life for soil retention. Otherwise one really good rain season and you're right back to were you started because you put a bandaid on a severed artery.
Exactly👍
That was the best way of explaining what needs to happen and what will happen if not dealt with right.
I agree but bedrock could be 700-1500 ft down. It was a dump idea to build a house there.
Civil Engineer here, this comment is exactly 💯 right!
That’s the problem with all the “washing away” issues. Everyone of them were under engineered. Or involves no engineer at all. His house was a ticking time bomb how he or no one else would see that is beyond me.
I used to live at the bottom of this street in Farmington. We used to play exactly where this house is built. We used to call it the sand pit. It’s also where major flooding took place years ago. Blows my mind that houses are being built up there.
Well they built sand castles in the sand pit...sand castles last longest if you take pictures, cause when the tide comes in , they're history.. Still its great to see the team working to help and if they can get material in there, maybe they'll have some time for some other longer term solutions.
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If this is true it's very obvious that it's a horrible place and a few concrete blocks is not enough.
I’ve been a structural engineer for a roads and storm water company for the last 8 years and I cannot believe you tipped some sand over the slope and said “we’ve done some good work”
Yeah but *CONTENT*
I was thinking that as soon as they started. I thought "there isnt a thing they will be able to do." Just silly.
Yeah I agree no compaction what so ever I'd start on the bottom behind the lowest wall and key out that slope and start compacting I'm 1 ft lifts
i get it bro, you do this for a living. But he does this for fun.
Isn't the biggest problem the mountain sliding down onto the house? Stopping the erosion below seems to be the easiest problem to solve.
This is why you hire an engineer before building on a hillside of loose dirt.
No rebar was used, anywhere and the retaining walls never had a chance. It's amazing how cheap some people can be only to their own detriment. I can only imagine how many other corners were cut in the construction of this "house"
I'd cut my losses and start over.
There might well have been an engineer involved at the start, but it looks like he got some discount contractors, and nobody was checking during construction.
I've sent out plans that called for 36" deep, 18" diameter footers, then gone to inspect the carnage after a storm, only to find the crew hadn't even dug the footers 6" deep. Just enough to set a short piece of sonotube on top, pour in some concrete and make it look right for a visual inspection.
Footers that should have weighed 750 pounds each weren't even 75 pounds.
@@kd5nrh exactly! People are too quick to judge everything! He knew exactly that he was building on a hillside which is actually doable, just wrong design/planning
Sell the place to someone that doesn't know any better and start fresh somewhere else .
No man, I have many doubts an engineer saw this. It's bad from the conception. Is see no signs of forethought. Just a building in the side of a mountain
You don’t really need an engineer to know that stuff, but yeah. Lots of things are not like they are supposed to be. Unfortunate situation.
Those concrete blocks are called bin blocks and are notorious for not having any retaining structural strength. As a bridge engineer I suggest large Rip Rap and steel sheet piles 2/3 of the height driven into the ground. Hydro seeding is a good start. Adding concrete curbing to limit the water runoff down the hillside will help as well. Keeping the water on the asphalt will be best and letting it run down the driveway.
You read my mind, I read your mind long before I read your comment.. Bottom line, great minds think alike.. Several rows of sheet piles are the only thing that will save the upcoming landslide...
Depends how deep the sheet piles need to go before their into decent beating strata. If your just driving them into gravelly sand they won't last long. Still better than nothing though.
Compaction starts at the bottom of the fill, putting grass, more material or even retaining walls on such a fill can actually make it more dangerous. I would like to see the geology reports and soil's reports on this site. I think there's a much bigger story to be told here. Nothing against your efforts Guy's but your putting a bandaid on a severed limb in the triage stage !
I know nothing about this type of civil engineering, but without piles, this is just a soapbox waiting to race to the bottom of the hill.
Bingo! This guy gets it!
Word of advice. Never cut into a mountain and use the fill to build on. Think of a square cut in half diagonally and used for fill. If this is the case spend some serious money for piers and a serious drainage system underneath the ground and gravel the heck out of it while compacting the heck out of it. Create a slope less than 20-25 degrees and plant rapid vegetation/trees on the soil. Terrence the front and back of the house and stabilizing piers all over the place. Again gravel underneath the home like crazy and ever where else, so the water percolates under the home like a underground creek. Think about buying land behind you if it can be bought. Just a few thoughts.
Exactly.. they used the spoils verses hauling it off and bringing in clean fill.
As a concrete worker and engineer with a few years on the back in the field, I'm stunned by the slab size, and the extreme lack of rebar. ESPECIALLY considering the location.
Would also be worried about drainage by the looks of things, that sand..
Foolish is, as foolish does, and I'm saying it nicely
The whole thing should have been built as a cantilever structure tied down to bedrock. Can't believe there is virtually no rebar. Even if it was made out of self healing water retaining concrete (Xypez or similar) it should still have loads of rebar in there
I was also shocked by the lack of rebar in that slab….
Looks like all the support material washed out of the gap in the corner of that "Retaining Wall" The corner is not even tied together.
They even called out the shotty work in the video. They mention the lack of rebar and the fact it should of supported all the way to the bedrock.
As an engineer I'd love to see the calcs for this one. I bet some creative engineering was used to get it permited. Unfortunately it's going to take some serious money to get that slope and house stable. Adding more soil only compounds the issues.
My thoughts exactly. I am also a civil engineer specialising foundations and this is as sketch as it gets. Needs to have geotechnical and structural engineers on site. There needs to be piles to secure the slope and most likely some retaining walls. That loose soil is going to do absolutely nothing but add weight to the slip area.
@@jacquesdeklerk5563Hopefully they’re reading this…
Am not no expert and this shows me they aren't eather 😂
@@tamfrommiami They always read the comments but it is about the CLICKS
@@jacquesdeklerk5563 if knew more about civil engineering instead of mechanical engineering - i think id get a heart attack watching this.
I wouldn’t expect anything less building a house on a sand pile
😂 like people who build in floodplains and then complain about floods. Play stupid games when stupid prizes!
Lol!!!! He said the house was well built just the front yard that wasn't well designed! There is nothing wrong about building on that terrain!
@@bryanb8366 he stupid game here is the contractors! Nothing wrong about building there
@@carholic-sz3qv Sure there is. The area is known for earth movement.
Granted they could have done a much better job mitigating it, but nature will win this one. There should be piles all over that area.
@@bryanb8366 Or canyons on the California coast.
This is not a fix. Your first problem is the lack of vegetation on this hillside causing reels and gully’s to form. If the quality of the soil does not allow vegetation growth, rock stabilization structures are your next move just to protect the hillside. Nonetheless, benching out a hillside for a house basically creates a man made landslide that never stops falling. When you add more weight to a hillside that has been cut out, it makes the toe of that slope kick out. Thus what you see causing the top to sink. Rule of thumb: don’t bench out a sandy mountain to build a house….
thats the right move! maybe they should have started while pouring the foundation
You just basically wrote word for word what they said multiple times in the video 😂
Too much money and too little brain springs to mind.
2:09 attempting to fix this seems like interfering with natural selection
My first thoughts were..."that may not be a great place for a house"...and..."aren't you supposed to consult an engineer before you build a house like that?"
There's a reason we call that area "The Sand Pit". People have been trying to build on that and some neighboring slopes for decades. Many gave up. It looks like you finally found a geographical surveyor to do what you ask instead of what's right. the houses in Draper that just slid off the mountain are examples of what could happen when you mess with the natural slope of the mountain.
We called that area sand mountain when I was kid. I grew up in that area.
Saw that video, it was wild. It pays to do it right haha
Por ese motivo le llaman musculo, porque inteligencia más bien corta
I’m a structural engineer and I promise you if we come back in 2 years….we will see the same equipment only demolishing the ruins into dumpsters, not sure how this was permitted or insured!
100% agree
Because 💰💸💵 and fame get you whatever you want
You build on mountain slop and you can expect things are going to move
@@floydstowe yeah at least build on one with tress.lmao
It wasn't insured that's why there's a second rate contractor tryna fix it haha
House location is a perfect example of just because you can doesn't mean you should make it.
100%
Building a house there is one those kind of ideas that your buddies are betting the over under with each other on how long it takes to bite you
You get what you pay for and there are those times the one you hired is a fraud
Plant some trees.
Hindsight is always 20/20 isn’t it?
@@afriendtoo6971 RIGHT!!!! A few trees and maybe some grass would of slowed if not stopped it! digging out the sand and loosening it then not replacing the ground cover = its going to wash away thats why fires in the mountains are so dangerous because they kill everything that hold the soil in place!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t do dirt work for a living, but i have lived on the sides of mountains my whole life lol so this is just a suggestion, but i think the focus should be more behind the house routing water away from the home and driveway…also I think more stair steps cut on the slopes & more retaining walls would slow the water erosion significantly in those areas.
Hes right storm gully behind the house to redirect the water
Yeah you know, have an actual professional engineer a plan instead of just moving dirt around which will accomplish nothing.
Your suggestion is a great idea and something that I have required in similar situations with steep slopes. By the way, I am a licensed professional engineer with geotechnical experience, but I wouldn't touch this job with a 10 foot pole.
@@northedistooutdoors yea i dont know much but i wouldn’t want be the one responsible for that property either lol
That’s what I was thinking. First start behind the house to keep water from the house
With all due respect one has to wonder why someone would build a very expensive home in such a precarious position. There goes a sound sleep, worrying if your house will be swept away.
Never underestimate the fail rate of blue collar folks that employ the "fake it till you make it" and "skipping the instruction manual is the first step" types. Some of their ideas will seem pretty solid but might not have a 10 or 20 year longevity, some other of their ideas are so bonkers that even the laborers on specialty trades crews related to what they are doing would scoff and shake their head at the incompetence.
All the money in the world can't buy smarts...
percentages of risk v happiness = failure eventually. chances are it was explained to him but was a risk worth taking as were the houses lower down the hillside
@@matthewnegrete6230 Sure it can, you hire an engineer.
@@ziggybender9125 Flying by the SEAT of your pants! Eh?
It's sad to lose one's home, but the phrase 'more money than brains' springs to mind, here.
As someone who received a Geology degree in the state of Utah...been known for years the houses going up along the slopes are asking for trouble. Saw several slides take out properties in Ogden during my college years. Hell of a first hand field trip to see the movement of the earth.
am i right in thinking; theres always bedrock underthere somewhere. its just a matter of reaching down to it with something strong. >?
Look at that same thing I was thinking
@@wolfgangBuonarotti issue here is the soil movement and gravity. pushing the pile of sand flat. Bedrock not solving the sliding on its own.
@@thelunatick1993 you wouldn’t necessarily need bedrock. stabilizing the slope with steps covers and vegetation plus a proper foundation for the pool would do wonders. as for debris flows: only a giant wall helps you against that.
Speaking as an Ohioan here. But wouldn't sheet piling fix the majority of this issue? We use to on our slopes and whatnot. Seems to work for us.
A couple times up here in Skagit County we have used a machine that pushes 25-to-30-foot rods into the side slide areas to prevent the shifting of slops from moving works very well.
The soil is so sandy and loose at that location that would be no more than a temporary solution since there’s no actual solid base for them to go into
He needs to plant & irrigate the entire hillside from the bottom of the driveway all the way up around the house. Hardy plants that don't take too much water. A combination of bushes, trees, & african grass. It really won't take to much water so long as you coordinate the irrigation system with the weather and only use it during extended dry spells.
It would also help a lot to plant tree's around to keep the ground more together! You often see landslides on places were they remove trees
Nah it seems they were going for the ‘desolate windswept quarry’ look 💀
That's what happens when you build a house on the side of a mountain dude. Same with houses built along the southeast coast and hurricanes. You shouldn't necessarily expect it, but you also shouldn't be surprised if it happens.
Yep!
It’s not even the side of a mountain.. it’s a SAND DUNE... it amazes me that anyone allowed a structure to be built on such a loose surface without substantial reinforcement
Totally. I can’t believe it.
It's a sand pile
theres a right way and a wrong way
The house collapsing sucks but that's why finding an engineer is crucial for these builds.
I feel like an inspector and building planners have some explaining to do…
They need to know how to tell people NO you can not build there. It is too unstable.
The house is fine. Watch the video again.
You can fix anything with enough money and editing.
@@ThatOldStoner The hell it is - within a few years if that, water and gravity will wash and scour out all the dirt supporting it - even if they've managed to drive piles down to bedrock for the main house they'll be left with a house on stilts.
@@chrissampson6861 the house itself will be on pile foundations down to bedrock. It will be fine. If the earth keeps washing away the soil it will eventually be left on the mountain side standing on stilts 😂 all of the external areas should have been supported down to bedrock and designed as cantilevers so if the soil washes out it would still stand up. Doesn't look like there's even that much reinforcement bar in it
Pylons to bed rock and soil nails for the retaining walls, many dollars and no sense usually equal a bad time. I do feel for ya Muscle, I am sure that you thought you were doing the right thing. Hopefully you can get this rectified, beware that you are most likely going to spend as much money shoring up the hill as you did building the entire house.
Insane to build a house there and insane to believe you can rescue it.
I love how you guys all work together like brothers, and help each other when you are in need. That's how I was raised, but its rare to see today.
I have this huge sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. I usually watch your video's and know that all of you will succeed. I'm sure that things seem redeemable in most of your adventures, but this is obviously a huge endeavor, and should have some serious engineers to find a proper solution. I think that lack of vegetation is the least of your worries, structure and drainage is very much need in so many places. I wish all of you the best, this will be the toughest project you've ever encountered.
Yep this is a bandaid on a bullet hole. They need to get a proper geotech survey and report performed and civil engineering firm in there asap or Owner will have a big lawsuit on their hands from the neighbors down the hill. Never build on fill if you can avoid it and dont cheap out on engineers
Have a look at the place looks like rooms apon rooms stacked over each other....looks like the man was try to make the place look as big as possible ...now left with all the drainage errosion etc etc problems people with money an one idea start to endure
HeavyD, thank you for being kind to Allan that guy is a blessing. People like Allan make the world a better place
I've been pulling levers and playing in the dirt for close to 35 years now. In Florida everything is basically flat but with the ocean and frequent large storms I am well aware of how erosion works. Looks like the muscle has some issues that a little loose dirt isn't going to fix. He needs something with some structure for sure. Sheet piles would be a good start. Definitely need some sort of drainage plan to divert all the water. I don't care if you in Florida or in Utah. Water and loose soil on a slope doesn't work well together, water will always win. Great video nonetheless.
At least good for entertainment 🤷
The fact the house was able to be built there is insane
Very poor display of civil engineering. Granted the pool install was likely an afterthought and not stamped or properly designed from the get-go
Welcome to Utah.
In Utah they will basically build a house on top of a open pit mine and think it’s fine.
@@BiscuitsandSweetTea wow lol
Cities and counties will permit anything if enough ransom is paid.
For everyone that says your don’t need rebar in your concrete patios. This is the video to watch.
Yeah stuff all steel in that pool and where’s the piles to anchor it to the bank
First thing. Why is there no rebar? WTF!?
Rebar won't keep the sand foundation in place
I saw a youtube video the other day with MILLIONS of views recommending to dry pour bags of fence post concrete instead of ordering a truck of engineered mix.
-Because "its easier to level" ... SMH
Need to strongly consider benching the slopes so the soil can be compacted in vertical lifts. Once compacted you can cut it to look like a hill again if thats the look desired. Those slopes behind the house need to be addressed ASAP
What you lads have done there is placed a load of unsorted, loose soil on top of loose soil at the crest of the slope… temporary slope works e.g. buttressing (which I assume you are trying to achieve here) should start at the toe of the slope and work your way up by compacting the soil thereby increasing its density and shear strength!
Can’t help but think what was shown in the video has actually made matters worse by inducing a load at the top of the slope. As soon as the rain comes, the unit weight of the soil will increase, and the demanding stresses will eventually overcome the shear capacity of the soil leading to a bigger slope failure..
I’d suggest a rethink of the temporary works. But from what can be seen in the video, the remedial works may exceed the value of the property..
In an interview, the muscle said he designed the home and did a lot of the work himself. He threatened to fight one of the contractors. The man built the biggest, heaviest house he could in the worst possible location. He has 200 pound dining chairs and a 14000 pound fountain in the entry. What happens when all the dirt you just added, doesn't hold and buries the houses below him?
Otherwords he didn't know what he was doing?
Sorry for the such an odd question but do you happen to be Jesca Cluff? Just wondering because I love her photos of products that she does (I’m into photography) and I just noticed that you happen to look a lot like her and thought how awesome and a strange coincidence it would be if you were her, if not I completely get how crazy and strange this question may be haha
@@rjptrucking4598 He literally said, "I have no idea what I'm doing. I just do shit." in the interview
A true genius.
@@Anuskasv0 musclehead what do you expect
The first job I did after graduation was open pit mine. I worked for the engineering firm that was able to stabilize 85 degree 200 foot vertical cut in similar material. We did work along river banks that were 300 feet high with houses on them. If the owner hires the correct engineering firm they should be able to solve the problems. When the house was built the foundation was probably surveyed in. If they come back they should be able to determine if the house is moving. If it is the engineering firm will need to know to set a plan to correct the slope stability. Nice house.
As much as I love Dave, Alan, et al., I was really hoping to see some kind of professional engineer make an appearance in the video. I don't think moving dirt around is going to be enough.
a geologist and a structural engineer are needed for sure
I know nothing on this subject, but I have seen hillsides with some kind of lattice of concrete embedded within. Would that be a fix for this?
I'd be looking at a lot of screw piles at a minimum
I agree - dumping dirt won't do anything in the long run. Very temporary fix!
You need a good engineer!
It was just good optics. Whatever they did was absolutely useless. That is a huge problem waiting to happen.
Neighbors must love this guy
Dave is a good friend to say "I'll bring my team over". A better friend would say, "get professional advice, and then we'll come over and help you implement it"
Definitely ! Large pilings and an elaborate water diversion structure is needed or everything is going end up at the bottom of the hill.
Also, he should consider terracing.
Mr. Muscles-for-brains probably would have said no.
Allen is the best hidden gem that Dave has ever came across, seriously he completes the team
True. They were already such a unique team of originals that finding such a wonderful goofball like Allen was a lot of luck!
Alan😂
Please, the Wizzard if you must!
😊👍🏼
Yous got that right, we pay attention when he shows up! He is Dave's very own Wizard!
I just can't believe that man and all the contractors thought it would be a good idea to build a house there. That blows my mind.
yeah who approved these plans lmao
You can do it no problem, but the issue is the contractor. Cheapest isn't the best, no foundations to speak of so this was a temporary structure essentially.
How did it even get planning permission? Brown envelope job?
and no rebar in the concrete?
YEP!!
Those slopes need a really good mixture of stabilising grasses, plants, bushes and deep rooting trees.
Ideally it would need much taller engineered retaining walls with proper foundations to create stable flatter areas with correct drainage.
When we saw them digging this spot out of the side of the mountain in Farmington, we couldn’t figure out what on earth someone would be doing up there. Finding out that it was for a house, mind blown. This was my big fear for them. I hope you can get it stable and that it works out well in your favor. Best wishes.
Is this home in farmington UT?
@@benzun9600 yes
After looking at Google Maps, no one in their right mind would have built a house on basically what is run off dirt and rubble from the mountain but it seems that it is normal as only today a report from the local TV station had video of homes sliding off the mountain this weekend.
@@maxnex7676 Especially with the lack of substantial plant life on the slope there isnt anything holding the soil together.
EXACTLY!
Building your house on a hill of sand..who could have guessed this would happen
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
The parable about the man who built his house upon the rock (Alan) verses the man who built his house upon the sand (Keaton) kept playing in my head while I watched this video.
The house may slide down the hill but we gotta make sure the G-Wagon, Sur Rons, and other fancy show of money vehicles are perfectly on display for the drone shots.
Bingo 😂
I mean lets be honest this all for views, is there an issue with the house sliding of the hill?... maybe. Is Heavy D probably using this help a homie in need, and is able to generate money for his channel at the same time? ......absolutely.
Yes, so funny😂
You just described exactly why this Ridiculous stuff happens in one paragraph.
look at the hashtags
I used to look after land after forest fires in Spain and we would generally plant hemp as a first year emergency measure to prevent erosion on vulnerable slopes. Strong fast growth with long tap and wide lateral roots. Being an annual plant also helped.
Northern Utah is high desert, i.e. very little retained water and not much vegetation. Your idea is sterling in Southern Utah, though.
Mmhmm, yeah, to prevent erosion…
@Stephanie Johnson hemp doesn't need much water, probably less than grass...
@@stephaniejohnson3341 Good point. The areas we covered were pretty dry,hot( over 100F) quite a high altitude with zero vegetation after the fires.. They are remarkably resilient plants..
@@ganvalexposure2163 I think hemp might be illegal.
Hey Dave, tell him also we’re sorry for his troubles, but that’s what happens when you build on the side of a freaking mountain. He needs to take a page out of the Mayen textbook on erosion and landscape control. Those areas that he has excavated need to be terraced without terracing those elevations he will forever have erosion problems.
you need a deadman/ retaining wall on the side of the slope to keep the dirt from sliding. Then back it up with tiers and plants to hold the soil to keep it from eroding. Also, you need a cement ditch to have the water diverted from the back of the house and to run down the street to keep it from soaking up standing water and creating a landslide or create a sinkhole. At the front where you all are working needs the bottom of the retaining walls three-tiered terrace to allow the water to drain from the bottom of the beds.
Rather than just shoving dirt down you should be inserting steel sheet piles, planting trees and other foliage to root up the ground. Hopefully you do that soon and we get to see it all. Good luck Muscle!
I have a feeling this might not help.
Slope stability is needed. For example, piles
The knowledge of the engineer and surveyor is also important
@@kiwismurf4536 rich people are so cheap and cut corners like they can bring the money with them when they die
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
If you just replace what you lost you're gonna lose it again you need to put piling Down and put drainage tile in to keep the water weight and the dirt from running down the hill
im not in the industry but i was watching this wondering what the purpose of this was lmfao. It seemed to me like you want to drive piles like you said, or anything to help stabilize the dirt from running. I guess plants and trees would do it but not quick enough
Matthew 7:24-26
24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”
This! And it’s so funny that religious people are the ones building these homes too. In one of the most religious states in the country. 😂😂😂
brothers helping brothers is all i can say,this video is a sign of true friendship.
OHHH WOW MUSCLE DAVES BROTHER?
This is a heart break for him and his family...Rich guy + bad decisions or not...I hope he saves his home. Heavy D adding loose dirt to that hill is just pissing against the wind.
This is pure comedy, that's what it is.
They need to build a serious retaining wall and drive beams very deep into the hill
Dude could build another with the insurance money.
yeah, yeah, people starving to death on this planet.
If anything it’s making it worse by adding more weight to the already unstable hillside
A wise man built his house upon a rock…. I feel bad for this dude and his mansion of a house but how did you not see this coming when building and designing the house? Blows my mind
Alan is building his mountaintop fortress on rock. Nuff said.
I’m sure he paid contractors who should have got permits. I’m not sure how the county or city permitted the pool and driveway without way better retaining walls
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
@@trishabarker9314 we’re you there or have knowledge of wrong doing by Keaton that we don’t? How do you know he screwed people and cut corners?
@@trishabarker9314 more dollars than sense
“they know how to do dirt work”
Grading for positive drainage is pretty basic but they obviously don’t understand principles of site preparation prior to building on such a loose hillside. Rebar in the concrete solves nothing, just means more cohesive slabs of concrete breaking off after the substrate it is resting on sloughs away.
Well said brother, I find it hard to believe the city gave this a green light or a permit. Just seeing the composition of the dirt pretty much everything needs retaining walls. Hard to believe anyone would think having a exposed slope of that degree would be safe. My area would require a dozen or more terraces to properly secure that slope.
Good luck, would love to see a city engineer comment on how this slipped between the cracks.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
And Keaton doesn't go by "code," permits, rules, or laws. He wanted to save money and weasel his way into something big and flashy.
@@trishabarker9314 Well, tell us how you really feel! LOL
@@trishabarker9314 You know this for a fact how?
@HeavyDSparks Drive some telephone poles in like pilings into the ground on the hill sides after all the patch and packing work is done to reinforce the hill itself. deep angle cut the skinny side of the poles with a chain saw and drive it home. Then besides good deep rooted grass sprayed down, plant some deep rooted trees for the more long term. i live in tx now but where im from we spend a lot of time keeping houses on hills from falling into the Chesapeake Bay. if u can drive the pilings deep enough it'll help hold up the hill big time and in the scope of things a bunch old creosote telephone poles are cheap compared to that big ol house. good luck to your thick ol friend bro and respect to you for helping him out. a true friend move
You guys should give a truck to whoever can guess the exact time it slides off the mountain.
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6 months, 3:11 am local time
@@UserName-ip9lw I give it a month. The pool is already cracking, it's only a matter of time before all of the foundation starts to crack.
BRILLIANT!!! I mean, kind of morbid and all but ... BRILLIANT!!!
aint that the truth! I bet the neighbors are just waiting for it
It is nice to see people that can help their friends. Continue to do the great work.
A Hello and Thank You from an old school retired military geezer (70yrs old). Thank you and your whole crew, even Hans Lol, for what you do. Love Ya Hans. The wife and I watch all your videos all the time. The best of luck with Muscle's house, it's beautiful. Please rethink the drainage.
The answer is to do what California did to a very large hill that kept collapsing on the road next to it.
They used the same sort of anchors that they use in mines to prevent the roofs and sides collapsing and combined them with what would be considered french drains that allowed water that soaked into the soil on the hill to drain out and prevented it from cause the soil to expand and become loose and shift easier.
The anchors are like the ones they use when they cut the slopes off overpasses to prevent the soil under the roadway from collapsing outward while working on it. They can also use them to anchor retaining walls deep into the hill so soil pressure can not push them out and cause them to collapse.
Landslides are no joke when you build a house on a cliff.
a cliff made of sand....he will live on the valley bottom soon enough!
his house will move him there at the next big rain!
I seem to remember an old parable about building on sand... a few thousand years ago I believe. The only way to shore that up will be concrete pilings drilled to bed rock with collar ties tying it together. An engineer would be a big asset.
I can't believe a site engineer approved that site for a home without pilings to stabilize subsurface strata.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
@@trishabarker9314 How do you know that "He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners!" ?
@@trishabarker9314 you sound like you know him personally?
Respect to heavy D I work with dirt everyday, run excavator, dozer, loader, grader. I always get a kick out of watching these famous TH-camrs run equipment but hats off to heavy d for addressing it that he's not a pro operator and that he knows there will be real operators basically snickering at how him or some of the guys in the video run the equipment well I can tell you heavy d I've seen ALOT worse on job sites, and also the fact that you said at the end I do work with dirt everyday but I do it for fun shut them all up. Respect to the boys who made an attempt and spent the money on helping muscle.
Looks like a job that is never going to end!
it's really important that you do these charity programs for the lesser fortunate.
Adding loose dirt on top of already loose, sandy dirt that's eroding/sliding away, and has no pile support foundation. Might as well take the insurance check for the soon to be condemned property and build somewhere else PROPERLY!
I feel bad for the homes below him. He created a nightmare situation for his neighbors with his short sited idiocy. Obviously he cut many corners and hopefully this video gets the property condemned and his neighbors are able to sue him for his negligence of not doing anything to stabilize the hill side before building.
They have to find a way to spend all their hard earned millions
I was an architect in Orange County in the 1970’s. Then residential developers would simply slice pads out of hillsides and shove the dirt further down to make the next pad. Houses slipped down the hills and giant law suits ensued. Today, civil engineers require that the underlying undisturbed hilk side soil be terraced without fill and the final pads be tested to ensure that homes built there are safe.
I love it how they built that house up on a hill but didn't put any rebar in that concrete.😮😅
Why? Why build a big beautiful home on a mountain of sand? Who told Muscle this would be a good idea? Sure, Dave and crew can prolong the inevitable, but eventually, some really difficult decisions will need to be made.
How can there be no rebar in the pool deck?? Especially with that thickness 🤯
"I know a guy who can do it cheaper" - in spanish.
Yep, there's your problem right there lady lol. He should be going the builder to extract some money for piss poor building practices.
If you are concreting then you are putting in rebar. No ifs or buts.
No steel in the deck OR the bond beam.
I was pretty shocked by that. Almost nothing. That thing should have had a maze of steel in there. I've seen a 6" pour with more steel in it than that "pool"
@HeavyDSparks I don't have college degree in any construction field but I have years of construction experience working on airports runway by ripping them out and laying new runway on top of all sorts of soil types. If its cool with you I'd love to give a suggestion on how to keep the home foundation from completely washing out. In the back yard if its at all possible you build a ditch that arches around the house with a thick layer of soilcrete in front and behind the ditch. Now the specs for the distance of the ditch from the house, the depth of the ditch, the type of foundation the ditch needs and the amount of compaction the dirt need can all be provided by reputable civil engineer. Hope that helps the home owner that lives on the side of the mountain. (Love your TH-cam channel. yall are freakin awsome)
Damn. I’ve seen some bad builds but that’s probably one of the most colossal screw ups I’ve ever seen. The amount of dirt work it’s going to take to achieve proper drainage will probably dwarf what he’s got invested in the whole place. There should have been multiple contractors pointing out the lack of drainage before proceeding. I’m surprised they were even able to get it built without it washing away in the process.
Always so heart wrenching to see millionaires in distress, how can they even survive this?!?! Lol
Maybe the Red Cross can give some support!?!
You literally took the rods right out of mouth!
@@chrisforte8229 😂😂😂
This muscle guy seems like the most level headed out of them. I do feel a little bad for the guy. But he should have chose somewhere in the tree’s. Not sure why people wanna live on the side of a hot ass mountain that gets cold at night and 5ft of snow in the winter 😂
Doesn't matter his wealth...he's worked hard for what he has. Don't be a hater!!
I mean that situation sucks... I am not a professional, but i would say this is because of the lack of trees on this hillside, because the tree's roots normally harden the hillside and prevent it from erosion. I hope the muscle's problem get fixed very soon. PS: if the pool already moved i would also check if the house or the foundation moved and if there are cracks in the house.
yeah my first thought. but i would guess trees dont like just sand
Makes me really happy to see Al still working with y’all 💪
Hey y'all, all the way around the back of keaton's house Really needs to have a large diversion ditch with gabion baskets to control the runoff, or he is going to deal with this every heavy snow / rain fall!
Thanks for the great video!💚
I think the best idea would be putting a water relief system in around the house
Exactly what I was thinking
...and piles, steel piles everywhere.
There would probably be a bunch of stupid regulations preventing you from disturbing the natural flow of water.
@@stevenreynolds2327 That is not at all a farfetched statement at all!
Great idea! Someone else mentioned that the property may be on a fault line as well 💔💔💔💔💔
That is a beautiful home. You know here in Minnesota this was happening to a hospital here. And they built Blocks of Concrete like 40 yard deep and then 30 yards and on down to the street below. And the Mississippi River that runs next to that street.
Associated Press TH-cam channel, there is a short video - Mudslide in Minneapolis along Mississippi - that shows University of Minnesota Medical Center complex West River Road mudslide in 2014.
Good luck. Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all
Best of luck to everyone involved in fixing this situation.
That sad thing is, there is no fix for this situation.
There is only prolonging the inevitable.
Deconstruct the house piece by piece salvage as much as possible cut your losses and move somewhere else.
WOW! I find it hard to believe the contractor didn't put any rebar in the pool foundation. The contractor really needs his license revoked! As for the side of the hill, there is no "cost effective" way to fix it. However, landscaping would have helped with some of the erosion problems. Good luck, Muscle!! I hope someone will be able to come up with a permanent fix!
They need to get that hill green, otherwise it will just wash away again
@@mammutMK2 That's what I mean about landscaping...adding some grass, shrubbery and maybe several trees.
Good call! He mentioned hydro seeding it early in the video.
The problem is the mountain not the pool
Helical piers under the pool will help support the weight and prevent it from collapsing because the piers will transfer the weight down to far more stable soil that is dense enough to better support the pool's weight.
You guys need to put in some french drains to catch & divert the excess water which will minumize the wash out.
A Cofferdam to hold the hill in place
The whole site should have been terraced from the beginning, like turning the whole slope into steps all the way down the mountain with irrigation to drain off the water & that's the only way to make it fully stable.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
I love all these guys, but, I got onto The Muscle in one of his recent videos where he said “I did this, look what “I” did”. You sir didn’t do anything, God did. Give him is praise and credit. Now look what “he” has.
All you guys are not just men, You are ALL GODS!!! Also a BLESSING!!!!
Even if he’s 50% dug into the mountain, and 50% out of the natural slope, it’s still gonna slide down, especially bc of what’s below the 50% that’s built outside the slope, bc there’s nothing solid to hold it up, under the built up part, bc it’s dug out underneath that too. He needs serious help imo. I’m not an engineer so idk correct words.
He was TOLD by many professionals how to properly build that house, and he insisted on screwing people over and cutting corners! I don't feel bad for him one bit. I AM sorry that Dave Sparks is believing his excuses and that Keaton is throwing everyone else under the bus. It's always somebody else's fault!
But I have a little hope that Dave is truly as good a guy as he puts forth in a public persona and is just helping a friend no matter that it was his own stupid mistakes that got him there!
Rebar is what gives concrete it's strength, never cheap out when it comes to the steel, because once it's done it's impossible to add more support so always do more than needed.
That thing should of had some massive footings!!! Like 12 3-4ft Deep
These dudes are crazy I’m sure he paid top dollar for that too 😂😂😂
That's not.... I mean concrete is strong without rebar, very strong, but only in compression.
Also the strength in concrete comes from the stone
Hope you all can find a permanent resolution to these issues! Unfortunately, it will keep happening without the proper engineering that is needed for this. Need some substantial drainage on that hillside with pillars
i don't mind what kind of video you post, if it's digging, recovery, diving or something weird, every video is a masterpiece and always fun to watch!
Video/editing crew make it happen.
In Mexico they use tires two hold the dirt in place. Under the highway two avoid the water from washing away the dert..
He needs one hell of a retaining wall to keep that house on the side of that hill.
It's probably cheaper to build a new house in safer grounds
A Cofferdam to hold the hill in place
@@andreabuzzolan9807 exactly. It’s easily a 1.5 million dollar project with cutting corners.
Whoever built that pool needs their license yanked!
I dig the content you all put out but the best part, for me, is how much you're there for one another in times of need.
Lots of digging required for this fool's property, so it's great that you're a diggijg lover.
Are you a rabbit?
This!!!!
Hydro seeding asap, planting some fast rooting trees or shrubs and giving them the right supply of nutrients and water..
Rerouting of runoff and drain pipes ... Might hold, big might
It's an art to turn a 5 minute video into 45 minutes..
HeavyD never fails to find great content and helping a friend in need that's what life is all about
In this case, the friend has literally fucked around and is now finding out.
good content to make money off of... still nothing done to fix the actual problem. lmao
It's always awesome to see D getting all his stuff, and fixing problems like this.
Dave to the rescue! You’re a good friend man, the whole crew are good people.