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Took this to locals yesterday with a few changes. Really liked the boosts, promo pata and the 4 tks. Being able to see security felt way more valuable than the extra 1 memory from karis. Slam down magna when ready to go into domini on the fly. Also agree on the 4 cupis I think setting up is way more important than the 1 draw from toko
I ran a "I can't afford 3 Cherubi ACE" variant of this deck at locals (and won) and holy smokes was it smooth! The boosts make those hard drop MagnaAnge plays so much more effective and the Dom Lock combo is SO good
Other than trying to kill them before they combo, I'd suggest trying to get out as many bodies as possible before they combo. So they can't remove all of your ACE targets before their first swing. Pillomon does basically nothing vs their standard combo now. So adding that wouldn't help that matchup.
@DigiSean37 yeah pillow was so mid for me yesterday at locals yesterday it was final round and I had two pillows out they pop one from fen and i think oh nice i got it because they can't play yellow dude then homie just hard plays it for 12 and I get tilted.. as far as killing them before they get to their combo what has been working for you just cherubi and hope for the best?
As always awesome profile. Is there any official ruling ok the gatomon patamon combo gaining memory? Im constantly questioned on it at locals and dont really have anything to site to prove it
There's an official Q&A about Gatomon being played out of security and seeing itself (ST10 Mastemon eff for example) which is basically the same thing. You can reference that from the official site, but I'm also an official judge. So you can just tell them because I said so lol
I like the new list. Only having 10 Level 3s and 8 Level 4s seems clunky, but I trust your judgment on it. Have you tried out the new Piddomon over Angemon or Gatomon? It might seem lame, but adding him to security and knowing your opponent will play him out when he swings is kind of neat, especially when you combo with Cherubimon.
The ratios seem odd on paper but they work really well in practice. The new piddo just doesn't have the same utility as Gato and Angemon. Also once you establish Dom/Angewomon your opponent isn't going to be checking your security very often.
Sick list Sean! As someone who only has two shadowesraphi ace and 1 Cherubi ace do you think it’s be worth playing this deck? Are things like Seraphi ace or ophani ace decent enough replacements for a locals level?
I will say missing Cherub is a bigger issue than Shadow due to how much work it puts in (Alliance aggression, expanding board, outing uninteractable boss monsters) BUT you could potentially get away with missing them at the locals level. I'd probably add a 2nd EX6 Angewomon and 2 more Valks to replace the missing cards.
Free bodies are cool. The issue is once you establish the lock, your opponent isn't going to be checking your security. Angemon and Gatomon outclass Piddo in utility as well.
Get to Alliance as quickly as possible and start turning em sideways. They'll either have to take 2 damage or lose a Mother every time you swing. It's one of the harder matchups due to their access to dedigivolve(Mother Control specifically), but thankfully it's not that great of a deck. So the likelihood of seeing it in a big event is pretty small.
@DigiSean37 Awesome, thank you for that! My friend recently has been playing it and it's quite annoying. Was able to get a win against him using Birds but still haven't found a solid solution
@@Megaomen12 May seem a bit odd, but try slamming domini for 12 memory. It cannot be de digivolved and can protect itself. They likely will respond with a very weak turn and you can try to turn it around from there
8 is totally fine. In this deck it doesn't matter if Pata whiffs. The important part of his effect is seeing your security. It's very easy to get Angemon in security though. So any Pata after the first usually has a guaranteed target.
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Sean i been waiting for this list!! Deck feels so strong this format!
Took this to locals yesterday with a few changes. Really liked the boosts, promo pata and the 4 tks. Being able to see security felt way more valuable than the extra 1 memory from karis. Slam down magna when ready to go into domini on the fly. Also agree on the 4 cupis I think setting up is way more important than the 1 draw from toko
Solid deck list!
wesst side, I'm here first and yes. Angels always be good
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I ran a "I can't afford 3 Cherubi ACE" variant of this deck at locals (and won) and holy smokes was it smooth! The boosts make those hard drop MagnaAnge plays so much more effective and the Dom Lock combo is SO good
Got a decklist?
Now we only need a good level 5 with Alliance inheritable hahahah.
Hey Sean loving Angels this format! But Fenri like the only deck I can't beat with it any tips?
Other than trying to kill them before they combo, I'd suggest trying to get out as many bodies as possible before they combo. So they can't remove all of your ACE targets before their first swing. Pillomon does basically nothing vs their standard combo now. So adding that wouldn't help that matchup.
@DigiSean37 yeah pillow was so mid for me yesterday at locals yesterday it was final round and I had two pillows out they pop one from fen and i think oh nice i got it because they can't play yellow dude then homie just hard plays it for 12 and I get tilted.. as far as killing them before they get to their combo what has been working for you just cherubi and hope for the best?
Yeah just start turning your cards sideways immediately.
@@DigiSean37 copy that angel God 😇
As always awesome profile. Is there any official ruling ok the gatomon patamon combo gaining memory? Im constantly questioned on it at locals and dont really have anything to site to prove it
There's an official Q&A about Gatomon being played out of security and seeing itself (ST10 Mastemon eff for example) which is basically the same thing. You can reference that from the official site, but I'm also an official judge. So you can just tell them because I said so lol
Thank you Senseii 🙏🏾@@DigiSean37
I still like running Emissary of Hope as 2 of, it's pretty strong.
I like the new list. Only having 10 Level 3s and 8 Level 4s seems clunky, but I trust your judgment on it. Have you tried out the new Piddomon over Angemon or Gatomon? It might seem lame, but adding him to security and knowing your opponent will play him out when he swings is kind of neat, especially when you combo with Cherubimon.
The ratios seem odd on paper but they work really well in practice. The new piddo just doesn't have the same utility as Gato and Angemon. Also once you establish Dom/Angewomon your opponent isn't going to be checking your security very often.
Sick list Sean! As someone who only has two shadowesraphi ace and 1 Cherubi ace do you think it’s be worth playing this deck? Are things like Seraphi ace or ophani ace decent enough replacements for a locals level?
I will say missing Cherub is a bigger issue than Shadow due to how much work it puts in (Alliance aggression, expanding board, outing uninteractable boss monsters) BUT you could potentially get away with missing them at the locals level. I'd probably add a 2nd EX6 Angewomon and 2 more Valks to replace the missing cards.
Have you tried the new piddo? Free bodies are kinda nice...
Free bodies are cool. The issue is once you establish the lock, your opponent isn't going to be checking your security. Angemon and Gatomon outclass Piddo in utility as well.
Any tips with this deck vs Shoto Mother?
Get to Alliance as quickly as possible and start turning em sideways. They'll either have to take 2 damage or lose a Mother every time you swing. It's one of the harder matchups due to their access to dedigivolve(Mother Control specifically), but thankfully it's not that great of a deck. So the likelihood of seeing it in a big event is pretty small.
@DigiSean37 Awesome, thank you for that! My friend recently has been playing it and it's quite annoying. Was able to get a win against him using Birds but still haven't found a solid solution
@@Megaomen12 May seem a bit odd, but try slamming domini for 12 memory. It cannot be de digivolved and can protect itself. They likely will respond with a very weak turn and you can try to turn it around from there
How has 8 level 4s felt? I feel it may make pata whiff a lot
8 is totally fine. In this deck it doesn't matter if Pata whiffs. The important part of his effect is seeing your security. It's very easy to get Angemon in security though. So any Pata after the first usually has a guaranteed target.
@@DigiSean37Ok so this plays pretty differently than old vaccine
The deck seems really fun, but it's just so darn pricey.
Hopefully we see some reprints in the not too distant future