You made the point that there is more than one way to serve which would imply that you could pause the service motion or not. For many beginners and club players a consistent ball toss is a major challenge. Your video is especially helpful because you start with the racket up which then allows you to focus on developing a consistent ball toss. That abbreviated back swing simplifies the entire service motion. A pause in the service motion allows time to get that ball toss arm fully extended. Half the challenge in the serve is developing a consistent, repeatable ball toss. The slight pause in the motion might also provide time to rotate the shoulders and/or bend the knees which is important in generating more power in the serve. I would change the title of your video: How a simpler service motion can help you develop a more consistent ball toss and a more consistent serve. Ken
No ! No pausing ! Never pause . A pause stops or breaks the building up of potential energy from the body!! That’s simple physics ! There is upper body and shoulder rotation involved . Find out how much . The dominant elbow and wrist is where all the potential energy is released. Figure out how that’s done !
@@bmtspain6839 No ! You cannot “think” about the serve ! For that matter , you cannot think about any of the strokes ! Thinking stops all progress . You need to look and observe yourself! Observe every inch of movement of your service motion and see where something needs to change or improve! There’s no other way .
Yes. thats right: Sampras, Kyrgius,Isner,Karlovic,Gonzales,Tanner and other had no break. Roddick had break, but he had very unusial trophy postion and Federer had hesitation before trophy position
@@foxyonthrottle690 Agassi never served 190 regular. He average serve speed was like 110 mph (175-180 kmph). Sampras had average 1st serve speed 120 mph. if your average serve was between 200 and 210 than you had faster average serve speed than best ATP servers. I doubt that
Look at the motions of Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard or, if you want to go old school and someone who is not over 6 feet tall, Roscoe Tanner. They don't pause in the trophy position, their rhythm is excellent, and their serves are some of the fastest in tennis history. Plus, the higher your toss is, the more difficult it is to make it consistent.
Yes. thats right: Sampras, Kyrgius,Isner,Karlovic,Gonzales,Tanner and other had no break. Roddick had break, but he had very unusial trophy postion and Federer had hesitation before trophy position
One thing to keep in mind is that tennis professionals practice many more serves than recreational players and thus will be able to make a more complicated movement consistent because they do it so often that the movement looks almost identical on every serve. A pause on the serve will help recreational players create a more repeatable rhythm that allows for great control while still using a lot of power :)
@@revolutionarymotion4161 A pause adds a step to the motion, making it more difficult to be consistent. The higher toss adds another degree of difficulty in consistency, because it's harder to consistently place a toss 3 feet above your hand than 1 foot above your hand. I think the main concern about the Tanner/Perricard motion is that it seems rushed, but once you get used to its rhythm, the motion is actually more fluid and replicable.
The best servers in the history of tennis for players who are not super tall were Pete Sampras and Andy Roddick. Neither had a pause. Alcaraz also has an incredible serve and is "only" 5'11", and while he has a slight pause, it's before the trophy position. A goal in a serve is to generate racquet speed and a pause stops the racquet momentum.
Pause like Kyrgios and Mpetshi Perricard? Sampras and Ivanisevic? Or more like Roscoe Tanner and Lew Hoad? Throughout the decades, the GREATEST servers of all time don't pause at all. They coil and rip it.
You made the point that there is more than one way to serve which would imply that you could pause the service motion or not. For many beginners and club players a consistent ball toss is a major challenge. Your video is especially helpful because you start with the racket up which then allows you to focus on developing a consistent ball toss. That abbreviated back swing simplifies the entire service motion. A pause in the service motion allows time to get that ball toss arm fully extended. Half the challenge in the serve is developing a consistent, repeatable ball toss. The slight pause in the motion might also provide time to rotate the shoulders and/or bend the knees which is important in generating more power in the serve. I would change the title of your video: How a simpler service motion can help you develop a more consistent ball toss and a more consistent serve.
Ken
good explanation from someone who understands tennis, I learnt a lot for you, thank you!
No ! No pausing ! Never pause . A pause stops or breaks the building up of potential energy from the body!! That’s simple physics !
There is upper body and shoulder rotation involved . Find out how much .
The dominant elbow and wrist is where all the potential energy is released. Figure out how that’s done !
It all depends on when you think the serve really starts
@@bmtspain6839
No ! You cannot “think” about the serve ! For that matter , you cannot think about any of the strokes !
Thinking stops all progress .
You need to look and observe yourself! Observe every inch of movement of your service motion and see where something needs to change or improve! There’s no other way .
@@foxyonthrottle690 He did it in 93 because he had injury and he had a bad year. after that he changed his serve and made it without any break.
Yes. thats right: Sampras, Kyrgius,Isner,Karlovic,Gonzales,Tanner and other had no break. Roddick had break, but he had very unusial trophy postion and Federer had hesitation before trophy position
@@foxyonthrottle690 Agassi never served 190 regular. He average serve speed was like 110 mph (175-180 kmph). Sampras had average 1st serve speed 120 mph. if your average serve was between 200 and 210 than you had faster average serve speed than best ATP servers. I doubt that
Look at the motions of Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard or, if you want to go old school and someone who is not over 6 feet tall, Roscoe Tanner. They don't pause in the trophy position, their rhythm is excellent, and their serves are some of the fastest in tennis history. Plus, the higher your toss is, the more difficult it is to make it consistent.
Yes. thats right: Sampras, Kyrgius,Isner,Karlovic,Gonzales,Tanner and other had no break. Roddick had break, but he had very unusial trophy postion and Federer had hesitation before trophy position
One thing to keep in mind is that tennis professionals practice many more serves than recreational players and thus will be able to make a more complicated movement consistent because they do it so often that the movement looks almost identical on every serve. A pause on the serve will help recreational players create a more repeatable rhythm that allows for great control while still using a lot of power :)
@@revolutionarymotion4161 A pause adds a step to the motion, making it more difficult to be consistent. The higher toss adds another degree of difficulty in consistency, because it's harder to consistently place a toss 3 feet above your hand than 1 foot above your hand. I think the main concern about the Tanner/Perricard motion is that it seems rushed, but once you get used to its rhythm, the motion is actually more fluid and replicable.
I found my false serve motion at the end of the video clip ... Thank you very mucHHHHH
Should the toss arm stay up during the drop, or come down as you drop?
Should it not be a fluid motion?
The best servers in the history of tennis for players who are not super tall were Pete Sampras and Andy Roddick. Neither had a pause.
Alcaraz also has an incredible serve and is "only" 5'11", and while he has a slight pause, it's before the trophy position.
A goal in a serve is to generate racquet speed and a pause stops the racquet momentum.
Roddick had pause, but he had very different trophy position: so in general he had 2 trophy positions
You can observe that pause very distinctly with Alcaraz.
Have you watched it in slow-mo? No pause
@@jamiebond5307 There’s a very distinctive pause just before racket drop.
@@jamiebond5307 he stops his racquet completely
@@mightbefire yes. but he rotates his shoulder only after this break. so in general he has 2 trophy positions: before and after shoulder rotation
@@thebigmonstaandy6644 it's a bit like Roddick
Hmm. Thought hip rotation and legs initiate the drop? This is the early racquet leak and you’re losing power from what I’ve seen
You are right
Pause like Kyrgios and Mpetshi Perricard?
Sampras and Ivanisevic? Or more like Roscoe Tanner and Lew Hoad?
Throughout the decades, the GREATEST servers of all time don't pause at all. They coil and rip it.
or Pancho Gonzalez and Karlovic or Isner.
No pause.
Kinetic chain breaks and there is no continuity
Nive explanation of a way to simplify the serve for us rec players!
I pause before I start to serve.
Nick Kyrgios?
No pause.
Kinetic chain breaks and there is no continuity