This is against the common thought that racket should start dropping from the trophy position by leg drive. You’re saying the racket is at the bottom of the drop when you start your leg drive. And I somewhat agree with you. If the racket is at trophy position when the legs start driving there’s a loss of power because it’s simply wasted due to too early firing of the legs. But the bottom of the drop is also too late in my opinion. Somewhere in the middle could be optimal.
This is a very nice demonstration of the pin point serve. However, many of the top serving pros today and amateur players as well use the more stable platform stance rather than the more difficult to balance & time pin point serve. Would appreciate seeing some video using your sequence for the platform serve. Thanks.
For platform stance: Toss ball with weight shifted just slightly to back foot or evenly distributed weight for both feet. For added power you can rotate the back foot (foot furthest from baseline) and point it to the corner of the back fence. In other words, front foot points to side net post and back foot is pointing 90 degrees in opposite direction. This is called the Chong method used by Pete Sampras when he hired a coach named Chong. The reason for this is it allows the upper body to rotate more which will give more rotational power. However, not everyone is as flexible or talented as Sampras so do it with caution and reduce the angle if needed. I unfortunately cannot do platform stance, my balance is poor, I am stuck with pinpoint haha.
good stuff! Another trick I learned to teach this same thing is to try this with throwing balls untiil you can feel that you're pushiing wiih your legs to throw
imho this is incorrect the legs drive the racket so the moment the legs start to streighten/drive, the racket is starting to fall/racket drop so ---> racket goes down and body goes up, this can be cleary seen on any slow-mo. In other words the leg drive starts once you hit trophy position here you are training to start the leg drive too late
Another good instructional video on serve. For us recreational players appreciate your good instruction . Please keep it coming . Thanks. Happy New Year 2024 :):)
It looks like it would work, except around 3:11 where the shoulder is pulled way back, which is the one move not good for a person who has previously dislocated their shoulder. I'm not even supposed to put my hand behind my head when I sleep, as if I would know, LOL.
after 40 years teaching this is the first time i hear that legs and arm are going up at the same time. sorry to say but thats NOT happening !! watch yourself in slow motion and stop the frame when your legs are stretched and see where your arms is ( absolutly not stretched and racket tip still pointing down like its suposed to be , so youre doing it right but explaining it wrong ) Its legs body arm to have that whip effect which accelerates your racket. The exercise can be good to feel the extention and racket acceleration but NOT to train your rhythm . The push of the legs will start the drop of the racket. Sorry to say this but im sure a lot of trainers will not agree with this explanation
The legs start to straighten causing the arm to drop, the arm then accelerates up faster than the legs, that's the whole point of sequence of the movements, and then the legs and arm end up straightened out at contact.
Her drill is good but her explanation is incorrect. The arms and legs do NOT straighten (or drive upward) at the same time. The legs fire first followed by the upward swing of the racket. The legs should normally start to straighten as the racket is dropping. This helps to achieve a deeper racket drop. The upward swing should not occur until the legs are fully extended and the server is just starting to leave the ground. She actually does this in her drill and her real serve.
Inspired drill. It has considerable merit. However, her explanation is flawed. The arms and legs should NOT straighten at the same time. If the leg drive is properly timed, the upward swing will not commence until the legs have completely straightened & the server is just starting to leave the ground. By the time the arm straightens & the racket contacts the ball, the server will be at (or very near) the top of their jump. For a proper serve, the legs will Start to extend (straighten) as the racket is dropping so that, at the bottom of the drop, the legs will be fully extended and the server is just starting to leave the ground. A properly-timed leg drive will help to externally rotate the shoulder for a deeper racket drop. This external rotation will stretch the internal rotator muscles -- which will be released later during the upward swing. Kata actually has her legs fully extended, for her drill and for her real serve, when she starts her upward swing.
I am sorry, but all good servers straighten their legs first and then the hitting arm, of course before the body starts going down. Just do a search "tennis serve" and view the images.
Correct. Lower body unloads, which increases the load of the upper body. Then, the upper body unloads to strike the ball. The technique in this video might help the sequencing of some players, but it is not an example of optimal technique.
Straightening the legs is not part of the kinetic motion, it’s a relaxed position. So she is teaching the kinetic motion part of the serve. Think before you make a spectacle of yourself
At a higher level orthodox serve doesn't exist any more, if you observe the fastest servers in the world they all prepare differently because cheating the opponent is the key factor for a winner.
Grrrreat tip! I have never heard anyone say it in this way. Gonna try it out right away!
This could be one of the best serve drill ever! 5 out of 5 ⭐️
This is against the common thought that racket should start dropping from the trophy position by leg drive. You’re saying the racket is at the bottom of the drop when you start your leg drive. And I somewhat agree with you. If the racket is at trophy position when the legs start driving there’s a loss of power because it’s simply wasted due to too early firing of the legs. But the bottom of the drop is also too late in my opinion. Somewhere in the middle could be optimal.
A helpful tip. Nice legs, too.
Excellent! Finally I found this such useful drill!
wow you are amazing! and the video of this technique also, thank you!
Love it. Thank you. Can't wait to try out!
Wow, this the best video, I am so happy I found your channel. Thank you!
This is a very nice demonstration of the pin point serve. However, many of the top serving pros today and amateur players as well use the more stable platform stance rather than the more difficult to balance & time pin point serve. Would appreciate seeing some video using your sequence for the platform serve. Thanks.
For platform stance: Toss ball with weight shifted just slightly to back foot or evenly distributed weight for both feet. For added power you can rotate the back foot (foot furthest from baseline) and point it to the corner of the back fence. In other words, front foot points to side net post and back foot is pointing 90 degrees in opposite direction. This is called the Chong method used by Pete Sampras when he hired a coach named Chong. The reason for this is it allows the upper body to rotate more which will give more rotational power. However, not everyone is as flexible or talented as Sampras so do it with caution and reduce the angle if needed. I unfortunately cannot do platform stance, my balance is poor, I am stuck with pinpoint haha.
this is the only and best video on racket drop and timing in tennis
awesome thank you coach
I LOVE THIS TIP!
Very good instruction! Bravo
good stuff! Another trick I learned to teach this same thing is to try this with throwing balls untiil you can feel that you're pushiing wiih your legs to throw
it is like throwing a ball; I teach youngsters to catch and throw (properly)...
This is your best video.
Happy New Year!!!
Excelente!
imho this is incorrect the legs drive the racket so the moment the legs start to streighten/drive, the racket is starting to fall/racket drop so ---> racket goes down and body goes up, this can be cleary seen on any slow-mo. In other words the leg drive starts once you hit trophy position here you are training to start the leg drive too late
Beautiful motion 👏
Excellent guide! Very easy to understand your slowly and patiently English, so lucky to watch your video
Another good instructional video on serve. For us recreational players appreciate your good instruction . Please keep it coming . Thanks. Happy New Year 2024 :):)
Thank you…good tip.
So useful,thank you
Thank you
Excellent way to explain….❤
Very good video 🎾🎾🎾🎾🎾
Gorgeous!! Thanks alot
very helpful
Super ❤❤❤❤thanks
Great hack!
It looks like it would work, except around 3:11 where the shoulder is pulled way back, which is the one move not good for a person who has previously dislocated their shoulder. I'm not even supposed to put my hand behind my head when I sleep, as if I would know, LOL.
true about dislocated shoulder and I"m one of those.. but the racquet drop is important....
thank you.....
I love it
"Your legs and arm have to straighten out at the same time."
Gold
Thanks for the praise! :)
after 40 years teaching this is the first time i hear that legs and arm are going up at the same time. sorry to say but thats NOT happening !! watch yourself in slow motion and stop the frame when your legs are stretched and see where your arms is ( absolutly not stretched and racket tip still pointing down like its suposed to be , so youre doing it right but explaining it wrong )
Its legs body arm to have that whip effect which accelerates your racket.
The exercise can be good to feel the extention and racket acceleration but NOT to train your rhythm .
The push of the legs will start the drop of the racket.
Sorry to say this but im sure a lot of trainers will not agree with this explanation
Excellent! So true if your legs jump or straighten out before the arm then you are basically ARMING THE BALL using no body weight . Great Tip KATA !
The legs start to straighten causing the arm to drop, the arm then accelerates up faster than the legs, that's the whole point of sequence of the movements, and then the legs and arm end up straightened out at contact.
It was cool.
super drill.
i love it ^^
Not a bad idea.
Just curious Kata love the accent are you Eastern European?
Have been playing tennis for long but didn't know this, very useful, thanks!
Her drill is good but her explanation is incorrect. The arms and legs do NOT straighten (or drive upward) at the same time. The legs fire first followed by the upward swing of the racket.
The legs should normally start to straighten as the racket is dropping. This helps to achieve a deeper racket drop.
The upward swing should not occur until the legs are fully extended and the server is just starting to leave the ground. She actually does this in her drill and her real serve.
Good you have a lot of friends to write you a positive comment , obviously they do not play tennis at all .....😀
Inspired drill. It has considerable merit. However, her explanation is flawed. The arms and legs should NOT straighten at the same time. If the leg drive is properly timed, the upward swing will not commence until the legs have completely straightened & the server is just starting to leave the ground.
By the time the arm straightens & the racket contacts the ball, the server will be at (or very near) the top of their jump.
For a proper serve, the legs will Start to extend (straighten) as the racket is dropping so that, at the bottom of the drop, the legs will be fully extended and the server is just starting to leave the ground.
A properly-timed leg drive will help to externally rotate the shoulder for a deeper racket drop. This external rotation will stretch the internal rotator muscles -- which will be released later during the upward swing.
Kata actually has her legs fully extended, for her drill and for her real serve, when she starts her upward swing.
Sorry , here are some real misunderstandings ..... think about the correct kinetic chain ......
I am sorry, but all good servers straighten their legs first and then the hitting arm, of course before the body starts going down. Just do a search "tennis serve" and view the images.
Correct. Lower body unloads, which increases the load of the upper body. Then, the upper body unloads to strike the ball.
The technique in this video might help the sequencing of some players, but it is not an example of optimal technique.
Exactly
Straightening the legs is not part of the kinetic motion, it’s a relaxed position. So she is teaching the kinetic motion part of the serve. Think before you make a spectacle of yourself
Just do a review of the video first.
I don't see anything wrong with her demonstration.
How flexible do you have to be for this? Lol
Legs drive upper body, upper body drives arm, the last part is the arm...... Common knowledge in teaching at any given stroke
Sorry but totally wrong
Why? Can you elaborate?
At a higher level orthodox serve doesn't exist any more, if you observe the fastest servers in the world they all prepare differently because cheating the opponent is the key factor for a winner.
You need to start teaching a real students no here then you will know how to fix the serve rhythm .
🎉Huh? Difficult to determine what you are trying to say here
Immagino che Bereettini, Sinner, Alcaraz siamo passati da te!!!.
Kind of hard this 🫣, I wanna complain a bit, distracted by the nice instructor 😂
thank you