Excellent comparison. It clicked for me to see the similarities between JJOS and MPC3, making me less apprehensive about the upgrade and inevitable transition. JJ's a legend in my books and He definitely changed the game and deserves his flowers for doing what Akai failed to accomplish. Back then I was wishing he could have done something for the XL. That unit is like the enigma.
Good to see someone talking about JJOS 3. Most JJOS vids out there mostly just talk about OS2XL. Obviously they're similar but I just prefer the OS3 workflow, which is why I was excited to see MPC3. Already felt familiar.
Okay, you actually made since lol! I was very reluctant about the MPC3 update, seeing a lot of the UI and workflow will change. Coming from the an oldskool MPC background and having a MPC 2000XL & MPC 2500 that I used for many years, then getting my MPCX in 2019 and becoming efficient with that, not realizing I embraced that workflow as well. You are absolutely correct, some of us (and only my opinion) old heads may be holding on to the tradition of that original workflow, fighting change. You actually opened my eyes with this comparison, and made it more clear to me about my dilemma on updating or not. ….and just to be clear I’m going to update for the simple fact of learning this workflow now and be ahead of the curve, because years down the line we know Akai will always drop another update that everyone is going to want, and guess what? You will have to update your unit, and now forced to learn the workflow years later. Thank you sir!
Glad it helped. I felt the same way. I've thought about not updating because visually it's a huge change but I cant bypass the workflow enhancements out of stubbornness. I'm used to how it looks now and 2.15 almost looks nostalgic already bit the new waveform and track mixer seem like they are going to be a huge improvement and enjoyable.
I’m gonna wait til MPC3 is less buggy.. try it out since allegedly it’s possible to downgrade back to 2.15 if one wants to… I think the features are dope for an MPC See how it improves my workflow or not.
Yea exactly though! You might as well install because their is a quick downgrade option somewhere in the preferences. MALO BEATS displayed it in a video recently.
Just like someone else said, I love this presentation of a predecessor 3.0!! I also haven't seen this take on it anywhere else!! You've really carved a path on the subject!! Great great take, video & beat!! Keep doing what you do bruh!!👊🏾💯
Dope bro. I have 2 mpc lives...lol...i liked it so much i bought a backup. Its still in the box. Ive had the first mpc live since they csme out in 2017. I have really liked all the updates and plugins they came out with. Ive pretty much mastered the software since i purchased a macbook air m1 in 2021. Ill probably stay with the 2.15 on my old mpc live and update my 2nd mpc live with the 3.0. I think having both 2.0 and 3.0 will give me the best of both worlds. Peace brother and be blessed.....
Bruh 😎 you have a brand new OG LIVE in the box? I recently grabbed an og live again, but it's beat up and was just thinking "I wish I could find a brand new mint one" and now your going to sell it to me 😂 jk that's awesome though! I've also got a LIVE 2. Hey but you do know their is a downgrade button so you can move back from 3 but what I don't know is if that works but ways to easily go back and forth.
You're completely right. I had never seen JJOS like that and it is pretty similar in principle with some of the changes on 3.0. I came from 2000XL in my early days (never used JJOS though) and I guess I'm one of the very few who has been hoping for bigger changes within the platform. I get that changes can throw things off when you're settled in, but I've had to make so many big changes over the years that I'm just not averse to it anymore as long as I can be objective in my assessment of what I may gain in terms of efficiency and reduced friction in the workflow. I think they're going in the right direction, personally.
Agree and I like how you put that "reduced friction in the workflow" it looks like that's what they are promising and I'm hoping it lives up to. I think it will, especially with the mixer since now you don't have a bunch of empty tracks, moving around will be quicker when your mixing.
@@LiftedNoise Yeah man I think it looks built on solid foundations. I'm sure it'll need fine tuning with updates, but any big step to improve takes risks and refinement. We'll see in time, but I'm sticking with optimism for the time being! Haha.
Very interesting comparison,and you are right about the MPC 3 being the same it's just a bit of improvements but it's not totally different,I guess what's throwing people off is the visual aspect, personally I think it's a dope update.Peace🙏🏾
I think it's exactly the visual change that makes ot seems like a huge change. I still see the same workflow. Song mode is still available of you don't want to look at the arranger but really that arranger is just a multitrack grid view.
Thanks for this comparison, this makes the MPC 1000 even more valuable to me (with JJOS). I have yet to replace the switches on the one I got used for a steal. I'm looking forward to working with it just as much as I am looking forward to the MPC 3.0 firmware. I'm mostly interested in finding out how the desktop version is going to change because a some point its going to have to accommodate the Standalone Unit. I use intel powered tablets with older MPC controllers so I'm able to run 3rd party VST's and still have touch screen access to everything with a small form factor. But at any rate, We just have to wait and see what Akai gives us to use. Either way We always get something We can use to create our Own form of Music.
@@LiftedNoise I got it real cheap because some of the buttons didn't work and I was going to just replace them. I bought deoxit for another project and forgot I had it. Thanks for reminding Me, I'll try that first.
I'm glad someone pointed this out. I've been saying this for years. People that don't know, just don't know. The entire time the new MPCs have been out, they have been lacking some of the most core features that were in the JJOS. Still the most on point OS to this day. I could easily go on with a list of how its better, but we won't get into it.
@@LiftedNoise LIFT ,SORRY IF NOT CLEAR,my question was, What kind of significance usuage the SP404 MK2 will have now since many where pairing it along side the MPC for dual production, because you described that you sold yours ??because of the 1000,or the 3.0 software now in play.
OS3 has some nice workflow improvements. But since memory is very limited on these machines JJ had to drop features. So you can dual boot between OS-es. For example. OS2XL, has more sound editing options. Like after touch LFO, etc. so you can play stuff with vibrato or modulate filter with after touch. Also it has an Instrument program which is dope for multi samples. All in all, the MPC1000 is still a valuable piece of gear which I hold dear to my heart. Mine runs on USB C. With a battery, yes.
I used to use OS2XL when the 1000 was my main piece way before these newer MPCs where released. I bought this 1000 not long ago and have been solely using OS3. So I don't remember how it was with 2XL to really compare right now.
I actually never knew this was a alternate os. The 1000 i bought second hand in like 05 came with it installed...so i just figured it was how they worked lol. Back then the way to learn new equipment was to just dive in and figure it out. Not sure if some people quite understand how lucky they are to have youtube tutorials these days lol
The amount of people attacked me for saying it is the same thing just no more shared programs and we got proper track view (Which was available in MPC2.0 desktop software). It's insane people are mad and illiterate. I don't even want to watch any reaction or first hand video about MPC3.0 or even read the comments. What is going on here? Akai made it 10 times better and gave us everything we asked for and MORE!! Yet people complained like there is wages protest. Damn Since MPC Touch came out this was AKAI's direction. DAW in A box! and it has been in standalone since 2017. Why people are saying "oh it a DAW NOW just give us a Mouse and a Keyboard!!!" WHAT?? it was a DAW in a box man where were you living? probably in sample edit mode and nowhere else. That's why they are shocked. Thanks AKAI that what I have to say and thank you for making a cool logical comparison.
🍻 thanks man and right.. we are all free to upgrade or NOT and it's free features..what's their to complain about. If you don't want change don't change..but to be fair I think to be fair the same people want to be able to buy into the next MPC down the line and not be left out. But yes it's definitely a DAW. I do everything standalone and now I think more people will..I hope the people who are upset aren't also finishing their beats in a DAW cause this should be a welcomed update.
So many videos about 3.0 seem to be aimed at reassuring old heads and new kids just getting used that they can still make music with these things...all the changes coming are so badly needed to keep the platform relevant and future forward. And you can always downgrade if you hate change
@Syntox truth. Thanks for sharing that. Akai definitely expected the hesitation from many and that's the reason that downgrade option exists. Seems like theirs nothing to loose in installing if you can just quickly switch back. Why not give it a try.
no man, the paragon isnt fair. JJ made a really revolutionary genius move, adding a TON of cool features (i think jjos on many levels is still superior to the current mpc's) WITHOUT getting rid of the sequence\track\program paradigm. now with mpc 3 the programs are lost forever, unless they hear all the criticism. i think mpc3 will be overall bad for the creative community worldwide if they dont bring back the programs.
@delfiobacco7156 JJ definitely did but I would never say it's superior to the new MPCs. It does have to give thanks too JJ forsure..it really does take a lot of inspiration from him. Programs are NOT gone in MPC 3 that's just a misconception you can just take a few minutes and look into. They are tied to tracks so it works slightly different but yes you are able to load them and build new programs on tracks and save those for use later.
@@LiftedNoise they are gone from the STRUCTURE, i know they are not formally gone, but i for example cannot point multiple tracks to a single program (i know the midi workaround, but it isnt the same thing for many many reasons). of course i think current mpc's are more advanced in many areas, but with the resources available, i think jjos was more forward than current line. but also from an absolute point of view jjos is in some peculiar areas superior (sustain loops in keygroups, step recording, time signature changes, next sequence switching options, many many little details)
@truthworld7036 well I guess I haven't looked to deep at the videos out because I assumed since you can load programs that it would still be possible to export a track with samples on pads into a program..about the track mutes I like the new way. I just delete sounds on sequences I don't want them.
Excellent comparison. It clicked for me to see the similarities between JJOS and MPC3, making me less apprehensive about the upgrade and inevitable transition.
JJ's a legend in my books and He definitely changed the game and deserves his flowers for doing what Akai failed to accomplish.
Back then I was wishing he could have done something for the XL. That unit is like the enigma.
Good to see someone talking about JJOS 3. Most JJOS vids out there mostly just talk about OS2XL. Obviously they're similar but I just prefer the OS3 workflow, which is why I was excited to see MPC3. Already felt familiar.
@@vitaflo 😎🍻
Much appreciated this original take haven’t seen it anywhere else
😎🍻 thank You! Almost didn't do the video. 🙏
Okay, you actually made since lol! I was very reluctant about the MPC3 update, seeing a lot of the UI and workflow will change. Coming from the an oldskool MPC background and having a MPC 2000XL & MPC 2500
that I used for many years, then getting my MPCX in 2019 and becoming efficient with that, not realizing I embraced that workflow as well. You are absolutely correct, some of us (and only my opinion) old heads may be holding on to the tradition of that original workflow, fighting change. You actually opened my eyes with this comparison, and made it more clear to me about my dilemma on updating or not. ….and just to be clear I’m going to update for the simple fact of learning this workflow now and be ahead of the curve, because years down the line we know Akai will always drop another update that everyone is going to want, and guess what? You will have to update your unit, and now forced to learn the workflow years later.
Thank you sir!
Glad it helped. I felt the same way. I've thought about not updating because visually it's a huge change but I cant bypass the workflow enhancements out of stubbornness. I'm used to how it looks now and 2.15 almost looks nostalgic already bit the new waveform and track mixer seem like they are going to be a huge improvement and enjoyable.
@@LiftedNoise Yo, let’s step into a new era my friend and make some “lifted noise”
@@mrdew9042 😎🍻
Dope comparison 🔥
😎🍻 I appreciate it! 🍻
thanks for the jjos nostalgia, good times
@@ezekielchentnik definitely was such an exciting time back then.. 🍻
bro you hit it right on the nail! My OG MPC 2500 Has The JJOS sincei bought it over 10 yrs ago
Very nice 👌 I'd really like a 2500 with an XLCD and super fat pads!
That beat a certified banger
Thank You KIRKSTATE!! 😎🍻🙏
I’m gonna wait til MPC3 is less buggy.. try it out since allegedly it’s possible to downgrade back to 2.15 if one wants to…
I think the features are dope for an MPC See how it improves my workflow or not.
Yea exactly though! You might as well install because their is a quick downgrade option somewhere in the preferences. MALO BEATS displayed it in a video recently.
Just like someone else said, I love this presentation of a predecessor 3.0!! I also haven't seen this take on it anywhere else!! You've really carved a path on the subject!! Great great take, video & beat!! Keep doing what you do bruh!!👊🏾💯
Thank You! 🙏 didn't really know people would really receive it. 🍻
You're welcome!! Oh yes brother!!@@LiftedNoise
Dope bro. I have 2 mpc lives...lol...i liked it so much i bought a backup. Its still in the box. Ive had the first mpc live since they csme out in 2017. I have really liked all the updates and plugins they came out with. Ive pretty much mastered the software since i purchased a macbook air m1 in 2021. Ill probably stay with the 2.15 on my old mpc live and update my 2nd mpc live with the 3.0. I think having both 2.0 and 3.0 will give me the best of both worlds. Peace brother and be blessed.....
Bruh 😎 you have a brand new OG LIVE in the box? I recently grabbed an og live again, but it's beat up and was just thinking "I wish I could find a brand new mint one" and now your going to sell it to me 😂 jk that's awesome though! I've also got a LIVE 2. Hey but you do know their is a downgrade button so you can move back from 3 but what I don't know is if that works but ways to easily go back and forth.
You're completely right. I had never seen JJOS like that and it is pretty similar in principle with some of the changes on 3.0.
I came from 2000XL in my early days (never used JJOS though) and I guess I'm one of the very few who has been hoping for bigger changes within the platform. I get that changes can throw things off when you're settled in, but I've had to make so many big changes over the years that I'm just not averse to it anymore as long as I can be objective in my assessment of what I may gain in terms of efficiency and reduced friction in the workflow.
I think they're going in the right direction, personally.
Agree and I like how you put that "reduced friction in the workflow" it looks like that's what they are promising and I'm hoping it lives up to. I think it will, especially with the mixer since now you don't have a bunch of empty tracks, moving around will be quicker when your mixing.
@@LiftedNoise Yeah man I think it looks built on solid foundations. I'm sure it'll need fine tuning with updates, but any big step to improve takes risks and refinement. We'll see in time, but I'm sticking with optimism for the time being! Haha.
Very interesting comparison,and you are right about the MPC 3 being the same it's just a bit of improvements but it's not totally different,I guess what's throwing people off is the visual aspect, personally I think it's a dope update.Peace🙏🏾
I think it's exactly the visual change that makes ot seems like a huge change. I still see the same workflow. Song mode is still available of you don't want to look at the arranger but really that arranger is just a multitrack grid view.
Thanks for this comparison, this makes the MPC 1000 even more valuable to me (with JJOS). I have yet to replace the switches on the one I got used for a steal. I'm looking forward to working with it just as much as I am looking forward to the MPC 3.0 firmware. I'm mostly interested in finding out how the desktop version is going to change because a some point its going to have to accommodate the Standalone Unit. I use intel powered tablets with older MPC controllers so I'm able to run 3rd party VST's and still have touch screen access to everything with a small form factor. But at any rate, We just have to wait and see what Akai gives us to use. Either way We always get something We can use to create our Own form of Music.
What's going on with the switches? Buttons not responding.. I just used a little deoxit on a few of mine and now they are working flawlessly.
@@LiftedNoise I got it real cheap because some of the buttons didn't work and I was going to just replace them. I bought deoxit for another project and forgot I had it. Thanks for reminding Me, I'll try that first.
I'm glad someone pointed this out. I've been saying this for years. People that don't know, just don't know. The entire time the new MPCs have been out, they have been lacking some of the most core features that were in the JJOS. Still the most on point OS to this day. I could easily go on with a list of how its better, but we won't get into it.
Go on if you want. I'd be interested in hearing your points.
@@LiftedNoise I will indeed. I’ll be back after work.
Best take on the matter I’ve heard so far
@@LowKeyPorter 😎🍻
Nice video bro 👌can't wait for MPC 3 to drop
Same here bro!! 😎🍻 thank You! 🙏
Love your channel bro salute
🙏 thank You 🍻
Agree on the inspiration for MPC 3.
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Yeaaahh!
@@lechesangre 😎🍻
Quick question...What plus the MK2 has now ,since 3.0 has arrived, noticed the community is not pairing it with the 3.0????
Not sure what the question is..asking about the MPK MINI PLUS?
@@LiftedNoise LIFT ,SORRY IF NOT CLEAR,my question was, What kind of significance usuage the SP404 MK2 will have now since many where pairing it along side the MPC for dual production, because you described that you sold yours ??because of the 1000,or the 3.0 software now in play.
do you prefer OS2XL or OS3 on the 1000? informative video as always 🙏🏾
OS3 has some nice workflow improvements. But since memory is very limited on these machines JJ had to drop features. So you can dual boot between OS-es.
For example. OS2XL, has more sound editing options. Like after touch LFO, etc. so you can play stuff with vibrato or modulate filter with after touch.
Also it has an Instrument program which is dope for multi samples.
All in all, the MPC1000 is still a valuable piece of gear which I hold dear to my heart.
Mine runs on USB C. With a battery, yes.
@alecsbuga 👌
@@alecsbugadid you install that yourself?
I used to use OS2XL when the 1000 was my main piece way before these newer MPCs where released. I bought this 1000 not long ago and have been solely using OS3. So I don't remember how it was with 2XL to really compare right now.
I actually never knew this was a alternate os. The 1000 i bought second hand in like 05 came with it installed...so i just figured it was how they worked lol. Back then the way to learn new equipment was to just dive in and figure it out. Not sure if some people quite understand how lucky they are to have youtube tutorials these days lol
🍻 exactly when I started it was like that too. Never watched a TH-cam tutorial until after I started making them myself.
❤❤❤❤ man now you making me want to get one.
Well this one eventually I'll put up for sale.
@@LiftedNoise 😎😎😎
@@LiftedNoise let me know the price.
Positive vibes
@@chokboywonda 😎🍻
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thank You!! 🍻
I love the 1000 a lot!
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Haven’t seen this in a long time.
You own a 100 or 2500 at some point?
@@LiftedNoise my cousin had a 2500 and a 2000XL
Great vid
Thanks man!
The amount of people attacked me for saying it is the same thing just no more shared programs and we got proper track view (Which was available in MPC2.0 desktop software). It's insane people are mad and illiterate.
I don't even want to watch any reaction or first hand video about MPC3.0 or even read the comments. What is going on here?
Akai made it 10 times better and gave us everything we asked for and MORE!! Yet people complained like there is wages protest. Damn
Since MPC Touch came out this was AKAI's direction. DAW in A box! and it has been in standalone since 2017. Why people are saying "oh it a DAW NOW just give us a Mouse and a Keyboard!!!" WHAT?? it was a DAW in a box man where were you living? probably in sample edit mode and nowhere else. That's why they are shocked.
Thanks AKAI that what I have to say and thank you for making a cool logical comparison.
🍻 thanks man and right.. we are all free to upgrade or NOT and it's free features..what's their to complain about. If you don't want change don't change..but to be fair I think to be fair the same people want to be able to buy into the next MPC down the line and not be left out. But yes it's definitely a DAW. I do everything standalone and now I think more people will..I hope the people who are upset aren't also finishing their beats in a DAW cause this should be a welcomed update.
Good job ! Where you are find skin mpc 1000 ? Thanks 🎉
Xpowersdesign
@@LiftedNoise Thanks
So many videos about 3.0 seem to be aimed at reassuring old heads and new kids just getting used that they can still make music with these things...all the changes coming are so badly needed to keep the platform relevant and future forward. And you can always downgrade if you hate change
@Syntox truth. Thanks for sharing that. Akai definitely expected the hesitation from many and that's the reason that downgrade option exists. Seems like theirs nothing to loose in installing if you can just quickly switch back. Why not give it a try.
no man, the paragon isnt fair. JJ made a really revolutionary genius move, adding a TON of cool features (i think jjos on many levels is still superior to the current mpc's) WITHOUT getting rid of the sequence\track\program paradigm. now with mpc 3 the programs are lost forever, unless they hear all the criticism. i think mpc3 will be overall bad for the creative community worldwide if they dont bring back the programs.
@delfiobacco7156 JJ definitely did but I would never say it's superior to the new MPCs. It does have to give thanks too JJ forsure..it really does take a lot of inspiration from him. Programs are NOT gone in MPC 3 that's just a misconception you can just take a few minutes and look into. They are tied to tracks so it works slightly different but yes you are able to load them and build new programs on tracks and save those for use later.
@@LiftedNoise they are gone from the STRUCTURE, i know they are not formally gone, but i for example cannot point multiple tracks to a single program (i know the midi workaround, but it isnt the same thing for many many reasons). of course i think current mpc's are more advanced in many areas, but with the resources available, i think jjos was more forward than current line. but also from an absolute point of view jjos is in some peculiar areas superior (sustain loops in keygroups, step recording, time signature changes, next sequence switching options, many many little details)
Yeah I’m not upgrading!!!!!
@hailnaryproductionz3661 can I ask, why not?
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jjos didnt remove programs and track mutes, 3.0 is watered down trash
@truthworld7036 well I guess I haven't looked to deep at the videos out because I assumed since you can load programs that it would still be possible to export a track with samples on pads into a program..about the track mutes I like the new way. I just delete sounds on sequences I don't want them.