The truth: Does slightly longer grass really affect football teams? | Tifo Football Show Ep.11
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Welcome to The Tifo Football Show - the show that answers your questions about football.
Join JJ Bull, Alex Stewart, Mark Carey and your host Joe Devine as they find out if Timo Werner is really unlucky, how Matthjis de Ligt is doing at Juventus and how the length of grass affects style of play.
If you have a footballing question you want to be answered, tell us in the comments section.
Special thanks to the lovely people at the Cheshire Cheese pub on the Strand for letting us film there.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:01 Is Timo Werner actually unlucky?
05:34 How is Matthijs de Ligt doing at Juventus?
10:57 How can the pitch be favourable to one team and not another?
15:15 Outro
#TimoWerner #deLigt #tifofootballshow
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Question: Do tall players play worse in a strong wind?
Hahaha
😂😂😂
it's sound stupid but i'm curious
If a serious question, I wonder if windy games do indeed noticeably favor teams that prefer to attack with the ball on the floor. Unfortunately, I think that there is probably a lack of descriptive enough match-day weather/wind data to compare against relevant passing data
This question definitely is coming from a shorty
Question: Why is the Six Second Rule never given? And what's the average time the balls held by a goalkeeper before release?
Goated pfp
This single problem made my gf give up on watching portuguese football with me
I’m not 100% sure on this but I think it’s because it isn’t a 6 second rule. It’s up to the referees discretion. So it can change from game to game depending on the referee on how long the keeper can hold the ball
yes this - I always think back to a match where Drogba counted how long the keeper was taking on his hands.
mad question the second one is😳
The tifo football show is really the only good thing on Mondays
Not if you treat every Monday to say "It's Monday" like a scouser. That always cheers me up.
dont forget the always sunny podcast
Better Call Saul too
The grass sketch was fantastic and it’s left me wanting a full documentary on the matter. Get Leslie Grass on the case!
genuinely the funniest segment Tifo have ever done
Question:
Do teams commit less fouls around their box when playing against Southampton because of JWPs Free kicks
FEWER fouls
@@davrothelegend I love you
@@raimarulightning OMG, I hope they reciprocate; what a beautifully romantic tale this could be. POPCORN, LADIES! 🤩
question: what’s happened to luton? how have they gone from non league to the playoffs and potentially the premier league in such a short space of time? is this a one off or can dreams really come true for these smaller teams?
Look up the HITC Sevens video on Luton Town's recent history, it has all the answers for you and more
@@mapkocc was literally about to say watch
Alfies video
What is the best XI you can make with all the -inhos in football? Like Fabinho, Jorginho, Fernandinho
Fantastic question, perfect TiFo fodder. 😅
I know it's entirely normal in Spanish and Portuguese to use diminutives as a common name, but imagine running around in a shirt that says "Little Fabius", "Little George" or "Little Ferdinand" on the back all your life.
@@rjfaber1991 I think it’s more like junior than little mate
Juninho and Ronaldinho always should be there
Why not murder multiple fowl with only a single rock:
Does the all time XI "-ic"s beat the all time XI "inho"s?
Also, is this racist?
JJ with another perfect performance 😂
He came in with the scottish sketch show material :D
he's brilliant
Please, Sir, let me have some more knowledge:
How come all football pitches are not the same dimensions? Is there a historical explanation from a sporting perspective, or is it down to geography and available space? Or maybe even style of the team that calls the pitch its home?
It depended on the factors. Yes, the factors.
Because FIFA doesn't put a 1 size standard... Instead FIFA gives a range. Goal line must be between 45 to 90 meter, and touchline must be 90 to 120 meter. Why it's like that? Could be because of history....back then there's no 1 global standard, hence teams create field sizes different from each other... When time comes to create a global standard, they couldnt create 1 global standard because the teams' fields are restricted already due to stadium size, road size, etc.
Ooh and based on real estate prices which team has the most expensive pitch per square foot?
@@gordfarquad probably Chelsea.
@@virupakshawalla5734 except Stamford Bridge is in Fulham lol
My slightly overgrown grass has affected my success in the past so I do believe it to have a noticible difference
Classy
@@neilgh703 thanks 🥰
Guys, this is slowly becoming my favourite Tifo segment!
Question: Does the placement and number of spikes found at the sole of the football player's boot really matter?
(Does it really enhance performance or is it just there to sell you the illusion of "more grip = better performance")
Aah.. the science
Have you ever run on a football pitch in shoes with smooth plastic soles?
@@CamoDrako I think OP is asking if there are noticeable or notable advantages/disadvantages to different stud arrangements, stud sizes, placements or alignments. I don't think he is asking if cleats are preferable to flat-soles...
Ag boots have noticeably less grip than Hg or Sg boots. I personally like Ag boots because one's feet isn't planted as solidly so if one gets tackled the boot slides instead of joints taking the force.
I've been studying different kinds of boots recently and the answer is yes, but it depends.
If your playing on an elite level (Grass master) pitch, you'll need boots with a few more and different molded spikes to get the best traction.
The same can not be said for a lower level pitch
Question:
Shouldn't a 'world class' player be able to consistently overperform on xg due to the fact that they are better than the 'average
player' (which xg is taking into account)?
The animations are next level, my favourite was Alex's disembodied arm pointing at the pizzas
Question: people always talk about Gerrard as a succesor to Klopp but, knowing Liverpool's history with the bootroom, would Pep Lijnders be a better fit? What does it take for a brilliant assistant manager to become a brilliant manager?
Does replacing your manager really lead to a boost in results? Sure anecdotally it does but is this really the case?
I think the reason for it is simply how systems tend to operate.
Like in Rocket League, if you have always just warmed-up with a fast paced, ground shooting training pack before a ranked play session, but someone suddenly tells you to start to instead warm-up with an aerial shooting training pack going forward, initially, for a time, you will likely retain those ground shot skills you had always routinely practiced, but you will also now be warmed up to another different but certainly important attacking skill, the aerial shots, that will serve you well when you queue up ranked.
There are no dumb questions. But this is a Dumb question.
@@fugaziishime it's not dumb! It's been studied extensively
short term yes there's an effect
Long term no...infact over the season the results wouldn't vary much based on change of manager
It's in a book everything you know about soccer is wrong
@@nishantak911 so you are telling me any manager could be just as influential as klopp. That ole gunnar solkjaer and jurgen basically have the same effect on the teams. And how is only a short term effect? Klopps work at luverpool took time. Sir alex took time. And its football. What a dumb take.
@@fugaziishime news flash, you’re dumbing it down to an incredibly rudimentary level and twisting his words so that you can pretend he’s wrong. Don’t do that. Use your brain. Wtf? Obviously not every coach is equally as effective, it’s a variety of factors that determine these things. Usually it’s almost completely unpredictable. So stop acting like you know everything? K thanks
Question: is the "Pep overthinks in big matches" trope actually true?
QUESTION: What formation and tactical setup can be used to combat the dominant and overused 4-3-3 system (wide touchline hugging wingers, inverted fullback, holding midfielder, and 2 box to box midfielders).
Well known examples Xavi's barcelona, liverpool under jurgenn klopp, pep guardiola with manchester city.
As I have noticed this trend from previous analytical videos done by JJ BULL.
The 3-4-3 or 3-5-2. Those formations are purpose built to beat the 4-3-3
@@opinionatortv6457 these with a fast counterattacking style does the trick either by nullifying the front three or creating overloads
wide offensive wing backs will either ghost past or commit the 4-3-3 wingers
if the 4-3-3 wingers commit and track back, then the lone striker will find it difficult to create or counter
if they dont it may turn into a ropey 3 forwards vs 3 centre backs situation, but the 352/343 will look to be more direct and utilise the dangerous unmarked wing backs
the "counter counter" is for the 4-3-3 to transition into some asymmetrical shape, where one winger stays more forwards, and the other drops back into a more midfield role, leaving two up top is still a threat, and 4-ish in midfield while defending keeps the team more secure
manchester city have done this regularly, and you may see a front 2 from de bruyne/foden/bernardo pressing high up, and a flat 4 with sterling/jesus/mahrez/grealish wide in the few times they are out of posession
Tottenham have been great at it with kane dropping deep to receive press beating passes and then set off the overlapping runners
Question: how will mino raiola's players manage after his death? And in general, how will players switch from one agent to another?
Question: It sometimes feels like teams in the EFL will go on ridiculous runs of form, and you may hear that a team who went unbeaten for months have now gone winless for just as long. Are the divisions outside of the Premier League actually more conducive to these extreme runs of form?
You guys are a perfect blend of football creativity and knowledge, love the growth on the channel keep it going y’all 🙌🏼
I mean, the accuracy and precision of the informations shared, plus the exquising humor without even talking about the passion and rightness of the intervenants, it feels so right. Amazing job and stuff these videos really deserve more recognition, thank you and greetings from Geneva friends.
Question.
Has the A-league had a negative on Australian football at a national level, and would it be more beneficial to scrap the league and encourage players to travel abroad in order to succeed at a professional level.
Question: Who is the ideal backup to Harry Kane at Tottenham? Tricky profile as the club want quality and youth but also someone willing to play second fiddle (or even third behind Son) for the foreseeable.
Sidenote: I was the guy from the US who cited Tifo in the article about my college application (mentioned on the podcast in spring of 2021), it’s going well and thanks again, cheers.
Question:
Who would win a mini tournament if all tifo members put together a team of their favourite players?
Like on football mamager or something like that
The JJ bit was the best piece of Tifo I have ever seen ! 😂😂😂
Oh my days. You guys were awesome in this video, particularly JJ. The paranormal show bit was so quite unnerving but amusing just like the original. Good show.
Cambridge United used to let the grass grow longer at the ends of the pitch to help their long ball game back in the early '90s.
This deserves so so many more views. I'm spreading the word amongst my equally insane friends. I love it
I spent several years trying to become a slight of hand magician, so I would like to think that I could use these skills to become a reasonably adept pickpocket. I'm not the fastest but I am agile, and arguably on the busy, slaloming streets of London this is a more useful trait. I also have reasonable stamina so could outrun the Victorian coppers over a distance.
I do however have asthma, and as Oliver Twist takes place in an industrial London one would have to assume it would be very smoky and thus my breathing would be significantly worse, which would probably affect my cardio.
So overall I think modern me could have become an adept pickpocket, but if we're saying I have to myself adapt to the reality of the times, then I likely would have died of asthma before the cholera outbreak even hit. Poverty is also likely as I am from the North of England and am, therefore, common scum.
Big Brass Eye vibes from the grass segment. Honest guys this whole show us a joy to watch. Top work!
The hand flying away from the body is even more hilarious it rotating 360°.
The comic relief from JJ at the start was wonderful. Hi!
Excellent animation work.
Best show on TH-cam love my Mondays 😆
The homage to Strange But True had me feeling all sorts of 90s Saturday night TV feels. It was also really funny and surprisingly well done. 😂👍
The last segment is a work of art.
The outro credits are the best!! It gives you a reason to actually read them 😂🤣😂
I love reading the scrolling end credits.
This one in particular was very well written lol
Question: Why do teams from kick off give the ball to a centre half who then lumps it up field, surely this is a half chance at losing the ball, so why do they all do it?
JJ's short films are just brilliant
These are the real questions that keep me up at night
Question : After Real Madrid’s comeback I would like to ask How effective are crosses these days .
IMO,crosses are more effective if the crossing player and the receivers use the same timing
Depends if your opponents are vampires.
@@moreece1713 boi what
@@moreece1713 elaborate?
question: does foot size affect where and how a player would play?
I remember a grass related feud in the SPFL between Brendan Rodgers of Celtic and Craig Levein of Hearts a few years ago, some great Levein press conferences
The grass bit was some of your best work
I love this channel.
We’ve missed you on the podcast, Joe YESSSSSSS
Question: If the top 2 teams in a league have the same exact results, points, gd and etc. Which team will win the title?
“If clubs still cannot be separated, the team who scored the most goals away from home in the head-to-head matches will get the highest position.
“Only if the clubs remain level in the table after this will a playoff be arranged, at a neutral ground, with the format, timing and venue being determined by the Premier League Board.”
Man I love JJ
I love this so much
Question: How did Steve Cooper orchestrate such a dramatic turnaround for Nottingham Forest this season? Would his tactics work in the Premier League if they get there this season?
bump lol
Could James Garner make an impact at Man Utd or in the Premier League next year?
He's done well in the Championship and some United fans think he could make the jump, similar to how Mason Mount did.
I too want to the know the answer to this! I want Garner to do well, but I don't know if he'd fit Ten Hag's system?
Grass bit was excellent
Question: Is Harry Maguire really the real cause of Manchester United's bad defence?
Probably, or at least he shares the largest % of blame amongst the players
Most errors leading to goals however he gets no real protection from either full back nor the midfield.
I think they already have a video in which Maram AlBaharna answers a similar question brilliantly (short answer is perhaps not)
That thumbnail is a thing of beauty.
I agree with your grass expert's brilliant analysis. I'd even go further and suggest the FA consider a rule change that expressly forbids a club to cut, trim, water, manicure, or otherwise alter the pitch in any material way after the first match of the season has been played. Only once the season has fully concluded will clubs be allowed to tend to their bush. This will obviously be incredible for the sport and mark a return to a more organic game last seen generations ago.
Question:
Do collars on players' kits make it harder for them to play? Looks like it does for me but I think players would say if that was the case.
That ending had me rolling
Loool when JJ interrupted Joes intro at the start Alex was looking at him like "Enjoy your last appearance on this show mate". Surprised he wasn't told to just leave then and there 😁😁
Good point raised by Alex
Question: if football were a higher scoring game what measure other than discrete counts of ball crossing goal line within posts would work?
A basketball style point system for goals based on distance to goal?
A target score to reach instead of a time limit for each game?
Day night football like test cricket where stamina comes into play more...
Question: how can we adjust progressive passes/progressive yards and other creative stats to where the player is located on the pitch? I always feel that the defenders and holding midfielders have a huge advantage in how many progressive stats they get
Question prompted by the Håland at City video, I found it interesting that you showed how he would help break down a Burnley low block but given their struggles this season it made me wonder what the archetype of a mid table PL team actually is. Would be interesting to see some numbers on most common shapes and playing styles, and maybe building out the league’s most average team?
Or in short, what does the most average PL team look like?
Chef kiss episode
JJ is a rare gem... he must be saved at all cost :D
Question: With the introduction of advanced analytics in football, are recruitment analysts more important than traditional scouts?
What ever happened to the spanish Tifo channel? I was so excited about it
Question : Will traditional wingers make a comeback in the near future?
If traditional winger's definition is the same as mine,There are still good ones like saka,Raphina ,Salah ,Di Maria and more .They are mostly Right wingers because teams mostly overlap left backs
You’ll need to define a “traditional winger”. From what I’ve seen, a lot of Brits think of “traditional wingers” as crossing machines for the center forward and not much else. While in other countries, the definitions of winger and striker basically overlap.
Traditional winger is a player who doesn't need a Right back to overlap and help them ,they can create or score by just bursting in dangerous positions
I’ve watched JJ’s Strange but True bit three times today.
Question: How long can football last without changes to time management/stoppages? Especially given that many games now are now getting less than 60 minutes of ball-in-play time.
I live for Joe's question at the end of the video
Hello Joe, JJ and Alex. Love the show. How does small countries like Iceland, Denmark and Uruguay produce so many quality players despite their country size?
wonderful, my fever dream is back
That chair fall JJ did when he said goodbye 😁
Question: Could you explain which stats to look at to evaluate the defensive ability of defenders in possession based systems? When I am looking at the FBRef player overviews, the defensive metrics seem very much dependent on the team's playing style (i.e. tackles/90: VVD ranks in the 1st percentile since Liverpool tend to have more of the ball). Though I can see how these metrics could be useful when evaluating players at "smaller" clubs, they likely don't say too much about players at bigger clubs. So which stats should we consider for those (in regards to their defensive abilities, naturally ball progression stats are quite important to their game)?
Its all about the nap of the grass. I was a groundsman at a top club. We change the nap to suite our game plan and train on it all week before a game. It is particularly advantageous in first 30 before other team adapts. Also open doors and windows at half time if wind is strong to effect pitch. Its all small margins.
Tea and these guys are match made in heaven
This show is honestly so fucking funny
3 seconds in I’m already creasing
Which of Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United would be best served with Ibrahim Sangare in their side? Also, how has Sangare's game changed since making the switch from Toulouse to PSV?
As a Gooner , I'd like him to be a short term xhaka replacement .He is a left footer who isn't clumsy with tackles
The hi at the start ripped me a new one
Hey long time fan, first time questionerer 🌬 Q: I recently watched a vid about winners of the rugby World Cup had a higher ‘team cohesion coefficient’ ie. The same players were picked in the 2 years before rwc, and higher proportion of players from fewer club/provincial teams. The specific example was the rise and fall of Australia. Does team cohesion have an impact on football World Cup winners? Is this why England always do rubbish? ie cos very few of the squad play together at club level, and lots of variability in team selection in the years running up to World Cup? More so than Germany, Spain, Brazil etc?
Question: is Bernardo Silva the most complete midfield player in the premier league?, he has the energy of Kante, pirouettes like Messi on the ball and the tenacity of a madman
QUESTION: What formation and collection of players can used to play the best form of long-ball tactics.
Brexitball's favourite; the 4-4-2
Question: Will JJ Bull apologise for being incredibly sceptical of Arsenal's 2021 summer transfer window? and will he accept that football manager is an entirely accurate prediction of real world football?
How have the rules around goalkeeper gloves evolved? I like to imagine there was once a goalkeeper who tried to use foam hands as gloves thinking it’d extend their reach but what are some real examples of goalkeepers using specialised gloves to try to get an edge?
JJ Bull must be preserved at all costs.
Question: What do you think the football landscape would look like if Mourinho got the Barcelona job in 2008, rather than Guardiola? Would Barcelona be a great success under Mourinho? Would Guardiola been able to establish juego de posicion at another club, and was his focus on controlled possession and quick passing destined to catch on as a natural development of the game; or was that only due to his success at Barcelona?
Question: Around this time of year it gets reported that ‘with a good preseason a player can be back to their best’. What impact can a pre season actually have on a players overall form? Especially considering that a ‘good’ preseason can only really be every other year with international tournaments for elite players.
Very good.
Question: fullback position have now evolved to have a very numerous role now like the striker position did quite sometime ago. Do you see any other position are trending to do such blooming
Really went underground in the intro to this episode
Question : Does a team’s reputation of having higher possession stats give them an advantage as in the sense that when teams come up against them, they come into the match already having accepted that they won’t see much of the ball and so device their game plan according to this?
Tifofofo that was a great show
Question: Will Japan become good enough to reach a world cup semi-final in the near future?
R.I.P. ball that died, you may be gone, but never forgotten
You also could've adjusted the comparison on hitting woodwork according to the shots/90min to the % of shots hitting the woodwork
Question: what underperforming player would be best fixed by a change of position or system i.e. Wan bissaka at rcb in a back three?
This jj is a treasure I’ll tell you that
Question: What's the actual rule of setting up a wall against a free kick? How they decide the distance and also the number of defending players present in a wall?
Question: Why has Pepe failed at Arsenal? And is there a way back for him?
Short Answer: saka and Arsenal's reluctance to overlap the left instead of right
@@moreece1713 He was a flop before Saka. After spending 70+ mill on him, surely he can be put to some use
@@yeaferahmed5305 Pepe was kinda good when Arteta played with wing backs ,Left footed inside forwards are dying slowly , examples are Messi,Pepe,asensio ,Mata , Pedro etc