How to stop Bayern Munich dominating the Bundesliga | Tifo Football Show Ep. 13

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  • @kjones6269
    @kjones6269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +741

    Tifo IRL is just so bizarre sometimes and downright hilarious. Don’t ever change

    • @saure22
      @saure22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Got a feeling Joe’s mic didn’t work, still great tho.

    • @samjones7296
      @samjones7296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@saure22 see that's the logical answer... And yet I completely believe this was just part of the script

    • @saure22
      @saure22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samjones7296 To be honest you can’t rule it out ahahaha

    • @iv0rysh0es39
      @iv0rysh0es39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They’d fit right in Adult Swim

  • @gallaghergibson8024
    @gallaghergibson8024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Explosive irreverence this week, Devine's voice being overdubbed and the shortest Mark Carey theme of all time making me smile this Monday morning

    • @ArunaUtd
      @ArunaUtd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't forget the credits declaring our fate as the human race

  • @mylittlethoughttree
    @mylittlethoughttree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    Question: are penalties getting easier to score? It seems as though shootouts tend to last a lot longer nowadays. Is that just because the rule about keepers staying on the line is stricter, or are there other reasons too? Or am I just imagining it's easier?

    • @becks6900
      @becks6900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Good question. Also, have we finally gotten past the daft idea that there's no point in practicing them because you can't recreate the tension?

    • @cathyroche6738
      @cathyroche6738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@becks6900 players gamble money for tension when practicing penalties

    • @adamgeigerjr6995
      @adamgeigerjr6995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      players are just better at pens ... use to be about placement or power - today its both & nearly impossible to stop

    • @jockleyfedora8018
      @jockleyfedora8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No way! I love your channel. Very cool to see you here

    • @andrewcote4909
      @andrewcote4909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ask manchester city

  • @AlexThePlatypus
    @AlexThePlatypus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    I bet the JJ voice-over is just a quip to all of the people who complained about Joe not narrating the main channel videos during his holiday.

    • @michiadams
      @michiadams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I'd be willing to bet they forgot to turn on his microphone and saved it this way

  • @bluecheese20401
    @bluecheese20401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    Question: is the new manager boost really a real thing? Statistically

    • @nishantak911
      @nishantak911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Only in the very short term but over a season it reverts to the mean. This was addressed in a book
      Everything you know about football is wrong

    • @P0UTY1
      @P0UTY1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They answered this previously I think?

    • @musix3197
      @musix3197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nishantak911 but some do though right? If a manager has huge presence and instill a certain mentality into the players. They might retain them.

    • @lolus8974
      @lolus8974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@musix3197 that’s not really a ‘new manager bounce’ that’s just getting a better manager. It’s a different thing to what the question is asking

    • @thomaskendell8146
      @thomaskendell8146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you seen how well Nagelsmann has done

  • @allydoodah
    @allydoodah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    How is no one talking about how funny this episode was

    • @victorlichtenberg4069
      @victorlichtenberg4069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Everyone's busy asking questions

    • @ryan5752
      @ryan5752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Fr. The credits on every episodes are so underrated as well 🤣

    • @bry97
      @bry97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Thought I was the only one thinking it😂

    • @allydoodah
      @allydoodah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ryan5752 crying at JJ’s ability to mimic Joe’s spontaneous mumbles and groans

    • @victorlichtenberg4069
      @victorlichtenberg4069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryan5752 yep

  • @olivergille8305
    @olivergille8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Question: Who is the best all-rounder ever? Ie if there was a mini tournament of some of the best all-rounders ever who would win, 11 Gerrard's? 11 Dani Alves's? 11 Gullit's?.
    Seems like a job for Alex Stewart.

    • @saptaccrvima3563
      @saptaccrvima3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dani Alves is the only footballer in modern football to have played in every single main position (Gk, Df, Mf, Att)

    • @DavidChong
      @DavidChong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saptaccrvima3563 give James Milner time, he only needs GK to complete the set

    • @Boomtowndogs
      @Boomtowndogs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      11 Gullit’s vs 11 Alves’s would be an Ian Macintosh special

    • @dColorOfBoom
      @dColorOfBoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scholes?

    • @KaiXx751
      @KaiXx751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John O'Shea

  • @sobyeski
    @sobyeski 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    JJ Bull equalling Joe Devine’s production insanely.
    I’m 100% here for that. Great job all 👍

  • @filiprybansky3008
    @filiprybansky3008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    penalties are more about making the deffending inside the box more difficult so that teams can actuallly score, more than about the penalty kick itself imo

    • @joemcalister7105
      @joemcalister7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Yeah and you need the punishment to have higher xG than whatever the xG from the position was otherwise the penalty becomes the safer option for a defender

    • @jakubkulikowski6875
      @jakubkulikowski6875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This, changing rules would incentive fouling in already crowded, heavily defended area. I can see it impacting game in a very bad way.
      I think Tifo is looking for a solution to a not existing problem.

    • @karlsharks5628
      @karlsharks5628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joemcalister7105 yellow cards still exist

    • @ebbydebby8130
      @ebbydebby8130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@karlsharks5628 theres already a massive issue in football of players cynically fouling on half way, ot caring if they get a yellow or not. you could easily see that extending yo inside the box if these penalty changes were implemented

    • @odieony7007
      @odieony7007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joemcalister7105 sometimes teams stop playing attacking football in the box and look to draw a foul. it would cut out diving. I like the American-style penalty as they use it in field and ice hockey. if you get fouled during it you get a spot kick.

  • @hifimonkeykong
    @hifimonkeykong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    good to hear Joe's dulcet tones.

  • @Lfcme
    @Lfcme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Question: I have always been facinated with players who have a "poor reputation" but have won everything
    Anderson for Man Utd is an example of a player who did that. Why would have have clocked in over 100 apperances and won everything there was to win if he was average or BAD?

    • @julius3428
      @julius3428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Reputation means nothing in football, the majority is horrendously clueless.

    • @JD45OIP
      @JD45OIP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You could make entire videos around Man Utd's "Squad players" in the SAF era... There's so many players who were at no point part of the "best" starting 11, but were content with their role and did the job required. Tbh even the likes of Giggs became this in the second half of his career. It just shows how good Fergie was at man management.

    • @saptaccrvima3563
      @saptaccrvima3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Winning everything ≠ being a good player

    • @Lfcme
      @Lfcme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@saptaccrvima3563 I get that. But United were hardly short of cash or youth prospects. To get 100 appearances means that he was trusted for 7 years at the club. Was he *actually" bad?

    • @saptaccrvima3563
      @saptaccrvima3563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Lfcme could be. But I think you'll always have somebody playing in team despite having better fits on the bench or reserves. Sometimes that's due to managers stubbornes, simply playing that player out of position because you lack somebody there (just to cover it up) or manager forcing that player until he gets back into form.
      As a Barca, I know that too well. Sergi Roberto has played so much in last few years, despite being terrible, and that's because the club didn't have any replacement for Dani Alves. in the start, Roberto played RB and even when the likes of Semedo or Dest were brought in, Roberto was still played as a "safer option" or "a guy with more experience ". He wasn't good at all, but he still played a tons of matches.

  • @DJWicked15
    @DJWicked15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Considering how possession based the title winning teams are, could a team playing long ball win the premier league? i.e. Could a team with a Neil Warnock-esque manager win the premier league?

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Leicester did it with mainly long diagonal balls for Jamie Vardy to run onto

    • @Hello-fx2rd
      @Hello-fx2rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@celtic69 yep Leicester only win with an average possession of 42.4% in 15/16

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Conte's Chelsea played a counter attacking style. Although they also had some really good players which naturally meant they'd have more possession against worse teams.

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@celtic69 a very low standard league at the time. In this current era, no chance

    • @martytu20
      @martytu20 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most possession oriented teams also tend to carry higher wage bills. The higher the wage, the more it corroborate with wins and losses.

  • @charaznable1131
    @charaznable1131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Joe Devine sounds peppy today

    • @joelroman5593
      @joelroman5593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He sounds normal to me

    • @charaznable1131
      @charaznable1131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joelroman5593 your ears must be peppy

    • @kimemia_maina
      @kimemia_maina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just as the prophecy foretold

    • @Seanknowsyoubetter
      @Seanknowsyoubetter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, it's great to see him happy and living his best life.

    • @oliverjohns198
      @oliverjohns198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s the sound of bees in your eyes

  • @esior8284
    @esior8284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Question for next week: How JJ's impression of Joe improved Brighton's stats overall this season according to FBref?

  • @jacksharkey562
    @jacksharkey562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that the voiceover isn't mentioned in any of the top comments 😂 just what we expect from Tifo

  • @MrMassos88
    @MrMassos88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Question: Was the, recently retired, Adebayo Akinfenwa a unique player? Have there been others like him?

    • @gallaghergibson8024
      @gallaghergibson8024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, he actually had a genetically identical clone created by DARPA.

  • @Hankynopanky
    @Hankynopanky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yeaaasss the holy Trinity of football journalism , absolutely love the work you guys do .

  • @TF-bi8ru
    @TF-bi8ru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Question: Why was Danny Drinkwater so important for Leicester, and why is he now so unimportant in general?

    • @danielmarsh1376
      @danielmarsh1376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope Danny Drinkwater himself comes onto TIFO to explain his unimportance in life

  • @meowwww9275
    @meowwww9275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So JJ had to re-record Joe's lines due to a technical error with Joe's microphone? Right? It's hysterical btw, best Joe has sounded since Grape Tea.

  • @ralphngwalla
    @ralphngwalla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Hey Tifo.....Question: With Juan Mata leaving United at the end of the season it's a underwhelming end to the career of a player who was genuinely on the cusp of being one of the best midfielders in the game.........so my question is was his decline as a result of the game moving over from a more creative no 10 who gives more on the ball creatively but having to cope with his lack of defensive noice or was he already a decling force already

    • @tobyjimmy
      @tobyjimmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good question. I'd say United using Mata on the right flank started his decline

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He wasn't just on the cusp. Mata was Chelsea's best player when we won the Champions League in 2012 as well as the year after when we won the Europa League in 2013. Mata was genuinely among the best playmakers in world football at the time, maybe only behind Mesut Ozil and Messi.
      Then Mourinho came in and sold him to United because he wanted to play Oscar in Mata's place. Tbf it was quite a sudden decline and really unexpected. It seemed at the time United had pulled of a coup and Chelsea had made a huge mistake letting go of arguably their best player at the time.

    • @jkmusingss
      @jkmusingss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A large factor is the incompetence here at the club. Like Pogba, they signed someone without a clear plan of how they were going to build their team with him... so constantly tried to force him onto the wing.

    • @WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
      @WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think any top club could have afforded to have him as their number 10. He was incredibly slow and too weak. He was OK for a club just outside the elite teams. So in today's game he would have been OK for a team around fifth, but he'd be nowhere near a City or Liverpool. He had the brain of a world class player but his legs didn't work as quickly as his brain did. He was always a less talented David Silva.

    • @stevenross6164
      @stevenross6164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great Question, always wondered this myself.

  • @Ninjaporygon
    @Ninjaporygon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Why is it that when a team that normally plays a back 3 plays a team that normally plays a back 4, a lot of the time the team that normally plays the back 4 will play a back 3 to 'match' the other team? Does this mean that a back 3 has an advantage over a back 4?

    • @andrew7taylor
      @andrew7taylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have only seen this if the back 3 teams has either played a 3-1-4-2 or a 3-4-1-2. Which are very interesting formations: you have 3 central midfielders to dominate the center of the pitch and keep the ball, plus you also have 2 central strikers.
      Which is very dangerous, with 3 CMs there are a lot of possible combinations to get one of them open. And with 2 strikers against 2 CBs, there is no margin of error for the defense, but you always need a little, especially against that many central attackers.
      Safest way to deal with it is get a spare man in the back against the 2 strikers and match them 3 v 3 in the middle. Voilá! You have to play 3-1-4-2/3-4-1-2 yourself, if the players are coached and trained to play in those formations.

    • @hiHi-cn3bn
      @hiHi-cn3bn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      some times managers do use it to match other teams formation with the goal of maybe playing better man to man marking, eg 3 5 2 to match 4 3 3, two Strikers vs two centre backs, 3 v3 midfield and two wingers vs two full backs and three defenders vs opponent's front three.

    • @DavidChong
      @DavidChong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typically when I have seen teams switch it is dependent not on the other team's setup in defence but their setup in attack. As I understand it (which could be wrong but I'mma lay it out anyways), it's usually about wanting to have a spare central defender versus the attackers. For example, against 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 you might want a back 4 bc you expect your fullbacks to cover the wider attackers giving you a 2 cbs in the middle versus one central striker, but against a 4-4-2 or 3-5-2, you may want a back 3 because then you expect your fullbacks to cover either midfield wingers or wingbacks meaning 3 cbs against 2 strikers in the middle again giving you a spare man in the central area.

  • @Slip6667
    @Slip6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Question : Is there a way to categorise and rate which team has "bottled it" the most in Premier League history?

    • @MarkWTK
      @MarkWTK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe a team that has top the league for most of the season, but failed to win it at the end? I think that's the easiest way to count.
      edit: but don't expect me to count xD

    • @Hello-fx2rd
      @Hello-fx2rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess it depends on what sorts of bottling. Bottling a lead would be easier to count, but bottling a final or trophy would be probably harder to define.

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look for the teams that most underperformed their expected points

    • @Slip6667
      @Slip6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd like to see players too - always talk of "big" players not turning up for games etc

  • @cheangizzz
    @cheangizzz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Question: can you not skip the Mark Carey song and can you make a compilation of these intro songs for sections and upload them as 1 video I really like those

    • @oh1yeah2
      @oh1yeah2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yessssssssss

    • @arkadye
      @arkadye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want an episode that just goes:
      *Intro & first question*
      JOE: "Over to Mark Carey for this one!"
      *15 minute version of the Mark Carey song about a all his battles with the scattergram and other charts. *
      MARK: "Yes"
      JOE: "There you you have it. You've been answered!"
      *Outro*

    • @gallaghergibson8024
      @gallaghergibson8024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arkadye Mark Carey/Scattergram, by prog rock legends King Crimson (16:32)

  • @wiener_schnitzelz941
    @wiener_schnitzelz941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do not exaggerate when I say this might be one of the greatest videos on the internet, goodness gracious this one is so good

  • @B193Alex
    @B193Alex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What went wrong with Leicester? From what I hear it was either from injuries decimating the team or the inability to defend set-pieces, but what was the real issue that caused them to go from Champions League hopefuls to failing to even reach Conference League qualification?

    • @miistercrayon
      @miistercrayon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d say the three main reasons were
      If you look at the end result of the season Leicester only missed out on conference by a relatively small amount of points the majority of which were lost due to set pieces and poor 85min+ play.
      1) Injuries to the defence which created terrible cohesiveness and rhythm in set pieces which was compounded by crap solutions (Vestegard)
      2) a lack of cleverness and in game management to close out games too often - I think there might be 4-5 games this season where points were lost in the last five mins (Brighton, Everton, Tottenham, West Ham)

    • @Hello-fx2rd
      @Hello-fx2rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d say it’s also the focus on UECL, in quite a few games we played a reserved squad. In addition, Leicester have a relatively smaller squad depth. and yeah injuries contributed a lot as well

    • @arkadye
      @arkadye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miistercrayon On our discord someone worked out that Leicester dropped 16 points in second-half stoppage time.

  • @jonasmile5021
    @jonasmile5021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Question: How good is Niccolo Barella, and what kind of midfielder is he? Should any of the bigger clubs look into buying him?

  • @charaznable1131
    @charaznable1131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have to disagree with seb, the only way to end Bayern Munich dominance is with spreading the broadcast revenue equally and bringing in a rule where the top clubs can't buy all their opponents players like limiting it to one or two players ..... This is how you make the Bundesliga competitive not by dismantling the 50+1 rule

    • @markkajc
      @markkajc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The transfer rule kinda goes against the free market idea of football transfer Market. Revenue sharing is definitely the best way to go

    • @charaznable1131
      @charaznable1131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markkajc what i mean by limiting transfers is by if Bundesliga 1 team wants to buy a player it is limited to buying only one player or two players from league but from Bundesliga 2 or any other league they can go guns ablazing

    • @jdbolick
      @jdbolick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Splitting broadcast revenue equally would make sense but it still wouldn't come anywhere close to the massive financial advantages Bayern has in merchandising and elsewhere.

    • @flaviantanase1889
      @flaviantanase1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charaznable1131 yeah so instead of Bayern getting the players and keep german football relevant, the other clubs from other leagues will take them so they weaken Bundesliga as a whole. I dont get this idea of "you should not buy from the rivals". Bayern like to buy Bundesliga players because they speak german and have the right mentality and also because many players dream to play for Bayern. I rly dont get the hate about it

  • @rocknroll648
    @rocknroll648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Given that Leeds survived the season and stayed in the premier league, and that Leeds are probably going to lose Raphinha if not others, how much of a rebuild do they need to do with the rest of the squad to suit Jesse Marsch's system(s)?

  • @bagfaceman1656
    @bagfaceman1656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Not sure I agree with the penalty analysis. The whole point is that it is unfair to stop people gambling on fouling in the box to stop attacks. It's meant to be a heavy punishment by design
    Like, yeah Silva had a low xG but cut backs are dangerous.

    • @joemcalister7105
      @joemcalister7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. 78% is about what I’d want I think otherwise in any 50/50 situation the defender would choose to give away a penalty and I imagine that wouldnt be good for safety

    • @Tailor-DKS
      @Tailor-DKS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Basically yes, but if you foul 1 cm away from the penalty area you get a free kick and the size of the area was decided decades ago. So why do we still depend on that, that is the question. I mean you dont ride horses nowadays to drive because cars are way faster, so we shouldnt block a potential improvement.
      But the point is not if we should change it, but rather how we can change it. And depending on data, we can now make a better penalty area/concept then the people decades ago I guess.

    • @cthulhudreams1246
      @cthulhudreams1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joemcalister7105 I wouldn't mind a zone system where a foul in the danger area was a spot kick as per the current scenerio, and outside that was a running penalty.

  • @Sagar251291
    @Sagar251291 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We want Tifo Football Show back!!!

  • @bjrnarhovland9741
    @bjrnarhovland9741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine a penalty shootout where they all use the mls 35-yard method at the end of 120 minutes, when everyone is really tired. That would be full chaos

  • @luisblack6852
    @luisblack6852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In (field) hockey penalty shootouts are replaced by shuffles (1 on 1s from 23 yards) and it’s usually more fun and requires more skill from both the attacker and the keeper

    • @joshuasinclair7649
      @joshuasinclair7649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was a thing in the US but was changed to pens

  • @edwin6124
    @edwin6124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Question : Can mikel Arteta develop Arsenal into a top team again, in terms of transfers and player growth. Or should they get a new manager

  • @maw86
    @maw86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Question: I see pundits and Evertonians alike singing Lampard's praises, but as a neutral he was.. underwhelming. Statically, was he a big improvement?

    • @martytu20
      @martytu20 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It says more about how bad Rafa was and how bad the recruitment was as opposed to Lampard himself.

    • @maw86
      @maw86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martytu20 that doesn't really answer my question though, does it ;) I want to know if statistically speaking, he can be considered a significant improve, enough to warrant the praise heaped on him.

    • @maw86
      @maw86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@martytu20 Rafa got Everton 49% of their points this season.

  • @IgnoresTrolls
    @IgnoresTrolls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am actually stunned at the shirt sales stat. Are foreign shirt sales a smaller portion than I thought and all those sales are from the fact that they're the biggest club in a big country? Are Munich bigger internationally than I thought?

  • @TheAlphaDingo
    @TheAlphaDingo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: With many players going on to become managers (some examples being Pep - Defensive Mid, Mancini - Forward, Pochettino & Blanc - CBs, Klopp Defender/Striker); is there an on field position that is considered to have produced the best managers/be the best position at producing successful managers?

    • @davicosta3915
      @davicosta3915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They already answered that question in one of the episodes of the show
      I cannot remember which one, but they did

  • @joemurphy4283
    @joemurphy4283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Question: What's going on with Ligue 1? Why is it going down to 18 teams and what effects might this bring?

  • @whittar
    @whittar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Question:
    How do we tackle the VAR issue? Should referees who refuse to work with it be banned? Should we make it more time-efficient?
    Context: According to pundits and ex-referees in Poland who dedicate their time to analysing referees, Wisła had 6 points stolen by referee mistakes and Bruk-Bet had 4, relegating them both, while Zagłębie had been gifted 5 points, Stal 3, Płock 8 allowing them to stay up. Referees refused to even look at VAR in many cases and one made an unexplainable mistake cancelling a Wisła goal to make it 2:0 vs Lech which basically everyone in Poland agreed should've stood, leading to a last minute equaliser after stoppage time was made 7 minutes due to that VAR decision.

    • @whittar
      @whittar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course I'll be the first to admit Wisla players deserved to end the season where they did, with only one win since December but I'm worried about referee mistakes not because they affect them but because they're everywhere. Odra vs Widzew 0:0 draw in 20/21 comes to mind where a referee gave Odra a free-kick for their player handballing the ball in his own box.

  • @skarutd1740
    @skarutd1740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is your opinion on Mike Maignan? Do you think currently he is the best goalkeeper category alongside Alisson and Ederson?

  • @darshanv5200
    @darshanv5200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another suggestion to make penalties fairer which I've heard about is to make the person who got fouled take the penalty. That will reduce the likelihood of penalties being scored and make it fairer.
    Only during handballs should anyone from the team be allowed to take it.

  • @Zombie1Boy
    @Zombie1Boy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just combine the two penalty areas; keep the traditional box for the area where a goalkeeper can handle the ball and the half circle for areas where a foul is a penalty; the area where the keeper can handle the ball but outside the penalty area would end up being a free kick outside the traditional box shape.

  • @Doughty321
    @Doughty321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series is beginning to get more insane the longer it goes on.

  • @jacksharkey562
    @jacksharkey562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is genuinely the best channel on TH-cam

  • @oscarx-ray3545
    @oscarx-ray3545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there's a foul in the box, the set piece should be taken from where the foul was committed, but the defending team can't set up a wall, and nobody other than the set piece taker and goalkeeper can start in the box. BOOM! Class.

  • @jakemilligan6251
    @jakemilligan6251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching tifo feels like a fever dream i love it

  • @funkrates4778
    @funkrates4778 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an idea about changing penalties. You can make it so that there are two places where you get to have a penalty, one in the standard location and another one farther out. So the standard distance is 12 yards out from goal. This new location would be 18 yards out from goal. The way you determine whether the penalty is taken from the 12 yard point or the 18 yard point depends on how close to goal the foul occurs. If the foul occurs from edge to 1/4 within the box, then you take the penalty at the 18 yard point. If the fouls occurs within 3/4 from the goal, then you use the 12 yard point. I hope that makes sense.

  • @crispykneecaps7209
    @crispykneecaps7209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seb says taking the penalty from where the foul occurred wouldn't work because of "angles" like if you were fouled next to the post. But wouldn't this just result in the penalty being a pass to a teammate sprinting into the box rather than a direct shot?* Yes, the defending team would try to intercept these passes by also sprinting in, but the attacking team would know when to time their runs in the same way that in rugby union the team taking the lineout knows when to lift their players and usually (not always) retain possession. The main benefit is that these indirect penalty set pieces with attackers and defenders sprinting into the box from all angles would look spectacular and that's what we want. Penalty goals are boring and we want something more beautiful.
    *They would have to change the rule to allow penalties to be passed backwards, but they might as well allow that.

  • @jaminjoben5097
    @jaminjoben5097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What was your Prem team of the year excluding Man City and Liverpool? Basically only Son got in most lists.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kane and rice were actually popular shouts, José Sá also made the occasional appearance

  • @Sparkz147
    @Sparkz147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just putting it out there. I thought Dwight McNeil was perfect England B material. Throw-back left footed left winger who loves to cross.

  • @arkadye
    @arkadye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think penalties should be balanced a little to the defending team.
    When first introduced the keeper stood on the six yard line and could rush the taker. I wouldn't go that far but I do think this could work:
    - Keeper starts on their line.
    - Once the taker starts their run up the keeper can leave the line.
    I'm not sure if we should limit how far the keeper can go (restrict them to the six yards box maybe?) or if it would be more fun to see penalties charged down if the taker tries to be too tricky with the run up.

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. One other solution would be to COMBINE Ligue 1, the Bundesligue, the Austrian League, and the Czech League into one big 'Mega West European League'.
    With this option you would have a twenty team Combined League with three relegations each year, and one Promotion from each of the French and 'Combined Germany' Leagues with one other play off spot.
    Such a League would have both PSG and Bayern, and you would probably see that match become the equivelant of 'El Classico'. Could be a money maker.
    2. The thing with the penalty box is that if you reduce the severity of the penalty by reducing the scoring %, then you make fouls more likely. This is not necessarily bad, but it does mean players will foul more as there is less of a cost to doing so.

  • @nert-13
    @nert-13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: how should teams play when up or down a man to best exploit or hide the advantage

  • @Beeady
    @Beeady 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Penalties can be made fairer by simply getting rid of them and calling a direct free kick from the exact position the player is fouled. To make this work, the 10 yard minimum distance remains, so if the player is fouled within 10 yards from the goal, the wall will have to be behind the goal-line so is basically a penalty anyway, but the angle will vary. IMO would make it far more interesting and stop the 5 minute VAR decisions

  • @BigblueNF
    @BigblueNF 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throwing my vote in for the following:
    If the goalie commits the foul in the box, take a classic penalty.
    If the defending player commits a foul in the box AND receives a red card, classic penalty.
    In all other cases, take the penalty from where the foul occurred OR the coach may opt to take a corner kick instead.

  • @KIDGUCCI707
    @KIDGUCCI707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Question : Are Manchester United Defenders that bad or are they the scapegoats of a terrible defensive system?

  • @benkolya
    @benkolya 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another penalty question!
    Recently we've seen the Euros, AFCON, League Cup, FA cup & Europa League finals, among others, all go to penalties. Why? Should we just skip the 120 minutes of football for finals since it's clearly a bit pointless?

  • @MrTaucher007
    @MrTaucher007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Q: After a team as famous as Sunderland being promoted back to the Championship, I wonder: what would be Tifo's 20 most eligible teams to be competing in the Premier League - from a sentimental and historic point of view?

  • @carsena1318
    @carsena1318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love this show

  • @ChaseTheHorizons
    @ChaseTheHorizons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Question: How long before English players playing abroad becomes common? How much of an effect will it have on the national team?

  • @michealmagic8830
    @michealmagic8830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since it looks set that Mauricio Pochettino is going to leave psg, what does the new psg coach need to do to get the best out of the MNM(MESSI MBAPPE AND NEYMAR) also what signings do they need to make to improve the squad?? Maybe a midfielder?

  • @wiener_schnitzelz941
    @wiener_schnitzelz941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the ending alone has me crying repeatedly I can't stop going through the credits and JJ's commentary

  • @reverendroar
    @reverendroar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was the last TIFO Football Show… what a shame because this would have been class. Instead the Athletic killed TIFO off to making it a TH-cam channel made of Shorts and less than 20mins videos. *Thanks the Athletic*

  • @greyingshepherd
    @greyingshepherd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best football channel out there, period. 🍻 Und guten tag Seb!!

  • @LilButt5000
    @LilButt5000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please don’t withhold the sweet, dulcet tones of Joe Devines voice from me ever again!
    Love the show

  • @jakoba138
    @jakoba138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: How did the Norwegian national team manage to rank second in the FIFA ranking in the mid 90’s, and can such a period of overperforming by a national team be a «curse» and a burden in the years after?

  • @archiebiltcliffe
    @archiebiltcliffe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Seb feature is absolutely beautifully filmed

  • @rowin1475
    @rowin1475 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question : Who is a good Fernandinho replacement?
    Matheus Nunes - sporting
    Ryan gravenberch -If he dosent go Bayern
    Frankie de jong - Barca
    Florian grillitsch -Free
    Aurelien Tchouameni-Monaco
    Romeo lavia - Academy
    Any of these or do you think they should go for someone else?

  • @trossity
    @trossity 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all the Tifo folks, but it's cool getting to see more of The Athletic writers appear on this show

  • @KKlaryon
    @KKlaryon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old American penalty method was actually incredible. It's like in Ice Hockey, a lot more skill involved and a lot more fun to watch

  • @Emperortyping
    @Emperortyping 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Question: Newcastle have been the 3rd highest point scoring team over the second half of the season. Is this just a really long hot streak or are they actually genuine top 4 contenders?

  • @dandominare
    @dandominare 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    each episode is better than the last - it's like the opposite of Lost

  • @jonniebamber441
    @jonniebamber441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's me thinking "Oh, TIFO can't get much stranger with this show" but it turns out I know nothing.

  • @ireallylikethings
    @ireallylikethings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t mind penalties not being “fair”.
    I want to see more goals, not fewer, and I like that penalties often change the dynamic of the game, that makes football more interesting to watch too.

  • @MsiziNkosi22
    @MsiziNkosi22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They had the Eric Cantona speech as the credits!

  • @andrewdhughes1993
    @andrewdhughes1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Challenge for Alex Stewart - What is the most boring squad and tactic that you could draft to put on a realistic premier league title charge next season? The squad, management and football played needs to be drab and uninspiring but still able to snooze their way to the top of the league.

  • @georginho36
    @georginho36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can’t lie, a mini tournament of international b teams would be so fun

  • @NeonLeonNoel
    @NeonLeonNoel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Free kicks within the penalty box need to be used more. I do love the MLS penalty rule that was used back then. It was more realistic of a chance from open game than having an awkward standing start.

  • @jpgutierreziii7176
    @jpgutierreziii7176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would enjoy maybe a podcast weekly on video from different Athletic pundits from around the league

  • @iulianju7893
    @iulianju7893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Question: How is the Wenger off-side rule performing in tests?

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    jj has managed to make joe more down to earth with his impression 😉

  • @jacobweddell2438
    @jacobweddell2438 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm fine with the current penalty rules being so skewed because it rewards attacking play, in order to win a penalty you at least have to get the ball in the box.

  • @JL-hz5li
    @JL-hz5li 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: it’s always Bayern who advocate for policies to encourage more competition in the Bundesliga, but constantly got vetoed by other clubs; it’s the “plastic clubs” who are very well run and ambitious and provide excellent player development -Leipzig, Hoffenheim, Leverkusen etc, but they are the most despised in Germany.

  • @blusterwaffle8439
    @blusterwaffle8439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the throwback voice of Ed Woodward
    Shopkeep, I'll have your finest Pogbarr

  • @jordangardner9551
    @jordangardner9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Question: are right footed strikers better at finishing the near post? This is considering most goalkeepers are right handed and they are shooting at a goalie’s “weak” side?

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't a right footer tend to shoot to the goalies right, since right footed strikes of the ball usually are going to the striker's left/keeper's right.

  • @flatbat8571
    @flatbat8571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boubacar Kamara to Aston Villa: is this good? How will he transform the way Villa play?

  • @cameronhollidge5090
    @cameronhollidge5090 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The level of camp that tifo irl hits is just delicious 😘👌🏻

  • @brennonplays
    @brennonplays 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    JJ loves an Arrested Development reference and I’m here for it. They don’t allow you to have bees in here.

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    More bizarre by the day.

    • @toluabisola
      @toluabisola 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And not always in a good way, sometime you just tune in to listen to football stuff. Not Joe Devine again attempting to be funny.

    • @SC-bc6tz
      @SC-bc6tz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toluabisola he’s usually funny, wasn’t a fan of the voice today but this is comfortably the funniest football show in TH-cam, JJ is jokes and Alex’s general negativity is class too, joe’s usually really funny, just tries a bit hard sometimes. Not sure if this is really a show for detailed football opinion, I think that’s for the main channel and other vids on this channel, this is the most relaxed video format they have bar podcasts

    • @toluabisola
      @toluabisola 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SC-bc6tz Yeah, generally agree, when he's actually funny he can be quite a hoot. It's just I find he veers a lot in personality from week to week, sometimes funny and quite likeable, other times you want to throw something heavy in his direction. Love Alex and JJ has grown on me :D

    • @SC-bc6tz
      @SC-bc6tz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toluabisola throw something heavy in his direction 🤣 I get u tho bro, I think he’s still trying to figure out his ‘character’ if you will for this show, hope he doesn’t keep the voice he did this week, that clueless 80s game show vibe he usually does makes me laugh. Have a good one dude

  • @kevintheman4408
    @kevintheman4408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    best series on youtube

  • @StriderDSC
    @StriderDSC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason 50+1 is under such scrutiny for removal is because they don't wanna get left behind with the "super rich owner" club mantra (post Super League debacle) going on, but mainly because German clubs never started getting results in Europe after the 2013 CL Final. Outside of Frankfurt winning the EL this year (and RBL getting to the semis), I can't think of any other club off the top of my head, outside of Bayern, who've made headway in European competition. If the likes of Dortmund, Leipzig, Schalke, Stuttgart, Hamburg, Bremen, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg would've advanced into the later stages of those tournaments, they might've become better destinations for players to play and they wouldn't have had to sell their best players year upon year to maintain the zero debt policies. I mean, if smaller Spanish clubs could do it, and likely with an even smaller budget, why couldn't the bigger German clubs? Honestly, Germany should be a more appealing destination given the size, power, beauty, financial stability, and stadiums of the country, but they need to figure out how to make that work. It also hasn't been marketed very well abroad (I'm in the US) and they've had some really poor TV deals that never broadcast the league. They were smart to get on ESPN in the last years, but Serie A, La Liga, EPL were way ahead of them for 5+ years.

  • @maw86
    @maw86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ominous music while Seb discusses comfortable car accessories did me.

  • @Recedinhairline442
    @Recedinhairline442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:19 this part is hilarious

    • @Veilou24
      @Veilou24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BEES!?

  • @justuskuhn6941
    @justuskuhn6941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    50+1 is the best thing about german football. I think the only good way you could challenge bayerns dominance is by changing how the revenue from the TV deals etc is shared. Because in my opinion bayern gets a far to big share from it. As of today I think how much you get is mostly determined by how succesful you are. This gives bayern and rb Leipzig even more anunfair advantge. It should in my opinion mostly be determined by how much people watch your games or how much interest you create in generell because that's also what gets you those deals. And nobody wants to watch red bull for example far more people are interested in frankfurt, cologne, schalke or even teams from the second division like hamburg or dresden. Bayern would of course still make the most money we have to admit they are the biggest club in Germany but it would not be as much of a difference to the other teams as it is as of today.
    Greetings from a bvb fan
    PS: nobody likes rb Leipzig

  • @OrangeNash
    @OrangeNash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting how something that seems the core of the game penalties from 12 yards ,for a foul in an 18 yard area, actually seems flawed when you think about it. There's too many soft penalties these days, where an attacker initiates contact then collapses in a heap. I definitely like the idea of taking the penalty from where the foul occurred. Also, shrinking the penalty area, or perhaps making an arc on it. Though wouldn't an arc be difficult to tell whether inside or out compared to the current straight lines? Whatever, attackers continually diving for penalties is probably the biggest irritation in the game for me, these days.

  • @micayahritchie7158
    @micayahritchie7158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:45 Just a caution on game design here, a game that is statistically always fairer is often more boring as it increases predictability. One needs the possibility of sudden huge losses for entertainment. I'll accept that penalties are skewed towards helping big teams being more likely to get one and more likely to score but this is just a general caution against making the game statistically fair.

  • @mikexstad1121
    @mikexstad1121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am an American Bundesliga fan. The fact is that for every ManCity, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc. There are infinitely more examples of this model being unstable. International community needs to look at football as a whole, and not just six clubs in England.
    Oldham, Sunderland, Portsmouth, most of the French League, MK Dons, Derby County, the Big 3 Istanbul clubs, Hull, Cardiff, Inter Milan, Ac Milan, Malaga, and those are the ones just off the top of my head. If the Bundesliga got rid of 50+1, I don't think any club would catch up to bayern anyways. You'd see even more instability, as these investors don't buy the club's for them to become winners, they buy them to run a profit, which doesn't necessarily mean winning. Imagine moving Sankt Pauli from Hamburg to Kiel so that the original ground can be turned into high end condos... because that's what happens in England. Wimbledon/MK Dons for example. The Supporters always ultimately have the club's best interest at heart, you can't say that about a sketchy chinese conglomerate or some oligarchs with blood on his hands... or Americans (looking at you ManU)

  • @joshbrown2217
    @joshbrown2217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a theory on how Bayern's dominance could be stopped. What about adding on a heavy tax that clubs have to pay to the league for picking up a player from an opposition in the league.
    This tax could then be put into the league via bonus revenue for clubs depending on where place in the table.
    It won't really stop Bayern and Dortmund from buying up players, but may at least allow some of the other teams to build up their own squad and means they would have to dip into the 2nd division, which may help the financial state of the 2nd division.

  • @gonzokieran8305
    @gonzokieran8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Question: A common theme among Arsenal fans seems to be a conviction that referees are biased against their team specifically, but is there any data that actually backs this up? For example the "if that was Granit Xhaka" meme

    • @RML199
      @RML199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe Football Daily did a video on this, but I might be wrong

    • @issamasghar5203
      @issamasghar5203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a common theme for every single club itw, barca real accuse each other, city liv utd chelsea do it too it's just a fan thinking that every person out there just wants there club to lose fans dont know why but they just want their clubs to loose

    • @gonzokieran8305
      @gonzokieran8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RML199 I need to have a look at that

    • @gonzokieran8305
      @gonzokieran8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@issamasghar5203 only reason I ask is I see it EVERY game win lose or draw and I’ve seen a few whacky officiating stats on Twitter that I’d enjoy some context on

  • @iv0rysh0es39
    @iv0rysh0es39 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: How can they properly make penalties more balanced and fair for the keepers? And why haven’t they.
    I reckon they should change the shooting spot to the top of the box, and the keeper should be able to have one foot over the line if desired. They should also prohibit kickers from doing any pauses, jumps, skips.

  • @monrow1961
    @monrow1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question : Will the Beneliga happen? If it does, what will it look like, and how will it affect football in Europe?