The games multiplayer is a very fun and intense tower defense game. I use to play it all the time before it became impossible to play with a full group. Even kev said he was starting to enjoy it in the video. this game was held back by the bad reviews because most reviewers didn’t play past the first few hours and it’s very obvious if you’ve played the game. It may not be a very good metal gear game but it is a good game it just takes some time to get there. There’s a reason it was in the top ten best selling games for that year in Japan. The single player is not the focus of this game but it is an ok experience on its own solely from the gameplay(story is shit tbh). The single player is just a way to get you comfortable with the mechanics for the multiplayer.
@@dirpyturtle69 then they should of made there own tower defense zombie game and not inserted it into metal gear. if more people did give it a chance konami would made sure that the ONLY metal gear we would ever get after life titanfall after apex launched.
@@dirpyturtle69 "this game was held back by the bad reviews because most reviewers didn’t play past the first few hours and it’s very obvious if you’ve played the game" - I have played long enough to get platinum on PS4 and I can tell you that Survive is a steaming pile of garbage. It utterly fails not only as a Metal Gear game, but even as just a 'game' on its own. It is an asset flip with everything good that MGSV had stripped away, then you saddle it with annoying timewasting mechanics that no one asked for, with player "progression" amounting to absolutely gimping you to embarrassing levels at the beginning and letting you go just barely get close enough to what you could do in V after you've spent untold amount of hours on mindnumbing grinding. Then the sheer petty greed is what drives the final nail in the coffin where Konami deadass demands that you fork over a tenner if you want to make a separate save slot to check out the male-/female-only duds that you could get from multiplayer. And multiplayer being good? Excuse me? It has *one* mode that is shallower than a puddle, with handful of maps, braindead AI, requiring you to pay up for monthly subscription if you made the terrible mistake of playing it on console instead of PC; not to mention that this useless little mode is the sole reason they could make the flimsy excuse of "the game has to be permanently online-only (even if you play purely singleplayer) to prevent "cheating", so have fun living by the game's schedule where you can be booted at any moment because we decided to do an unannounced server maintenance". Shame on Konami and shame on you. P.S.: "There’s a reason it was in the top ten best selling games for that year in Japan" - yeah, because it is a metal gear game and majority of the diehard fanbase is in Japan. What a shocker.
@@VUND-25 Funniest part is that alien ai in colonial marines sucked so hard because somebody made typo in ini file But the extraction and extermination modes were pretty fun,playing as alien was pretty cool
How did Konami screw this up so bad? They literally had the perfect game, MG5, as a base... All they needed to add was workable multiplayer. One job, Konami...
I wouldn't say perfect game... Konami ruined by putting a deadline and leaving Kojima out of development for the later half of the game causing the metal gear fight with Eli to be scraped.
The multiplayer was fun. We had a blast. Now i will say this if you dont like looting, survival, and balloon tower defence like games. You wont enjoy this.
@@simonsonlyfan8600 Only because he was caught spending dev time and money meant for MGS5 on Silent Hills....the reason MGS5 is such a shit game is because of Kojima's own actions.
The weird thing with MGSurvive is that, the single player section of the game sets you up for the multiplayer section of the game. However, the single player section is grindy and kinda too long for it’s own good, and the multiplayer is very disconnected from the rest of the game, even though it’s the entire point of the game. Weird. Also, it’s technically the first Strand-type game.
the story can also become unbearably painful and impossible to complete if you don't just grind it out too, the resource hell and constant micromanaging can drive people away early
I think there's a thematic reasoning behind this game structure. The idea is that your single player experience of Metal Gear games is kind of "too long for its own good" like all those codec scenes, and "grindy" because there's so many games and it's tough to track them all down IRL nowadays. Then, the whole point of playing Metal Gear isn't just to have this "single-player experience," it's to share your experience with other players and enjoy their perspectives on their own experiences.
@@meowxeno this is only true if you do zero exploration and also don’t interact with any of the base mechanics. Resources are so plentiful in this game once you get past the beginning that The survival mechanics are a joke and ammo is so inexpensive and easy to produce that the only reason not to use guns is because your carrying capacity is too limited to not use melee weapons during the tougher parts of the game.
Agreed, but you also get sub classes and other things like weapon perks, sprint and movment boosts. Its not bad but it supports a certain kind of player who enjoys survival games.
@@Saltymedpac8008 You can change the colors/camo on the weapons. As for clothes, you can change the camo and a bunch of the possible patterns can be on the silly side. No Metal Gear REX or fish hats, though, I guess.
@@mr.battle20 Nah thats not wht i mean, you can have, t shirt, pants, gloves, helmet, and then cosmetics like snakes bandana. u can change anyone of those to any camo provided you find it out in the fog
The joys of PC gaming. PC games are great when they want to work properly with your hardware, but when they decide they randomly hate you, they conjure up the weirdest issues you can imagine for no explainable reason until you scour the depths of the internet to find the one other person who had the same issue, and hope they found a solution.
A lot of people will never agree about it but the MGS series ended on a great note. MGSV came around full circle and told a great revenge story and down fall off Big Boss and Venom Snake. I just think of MG Survive as the undead nightmare of the series
I mean,, its the middle of the overall story And the game is literally unfinished but they shipped it anyway still an amazing game though, dont think im knockin it
@@Psycokiller338 they are both games that used the same engine as their predecessor and was about more super natural elements than the original was. Sounds about the same to me
@@SleeprunnerInc Absolutely, but also i belive the whole drama behind kojima is what set it off. Think about it. Metal gear rizing is such a step out and it did amazing. This did pritty much the same thing but it got review bombed to absolute DOG WATER. By almost all the game critics. I recomend LOWEs vid. Dude explains it way better than me!
@@SleeprunnerInc you literally need have zero standards to have fun with this game, you can get the same amount of fun with a stick that looks like a sword
its literally not a requirement to pay anything at all, nor is it "pay to win" when all it does is speed up the grind, you can pay to essentially halve the grind but the endgame is literally the same
This might sound like an incredibly unpopular opinion.... But I liked this game. Crafting new stuff as it's being discovered was fun. Progressing in the "tech tree" from dirty water to filters, herb farms, animal farms etc.... was fun. Looking for world bosses and taking them down was fun. Trying different strats to clear survival dig maps was fun. Hell, my kleptomaniac self considered constant loot pickups fun, and I enjoyed the melee system when the Fighter subtree was maxed out. The problem was that it's meant to be treated like that. It's a one-time sandbox where you come in, clear the story, stick around for a bit to advance tech or screw around with friends and then leave it behind. It's not immortal, and it's not meant to beat other MG games. It's a horrid MG game, but an okay 4/10 non-MG game
I'm with you. It's a horrible Metal Gear game, but at its cheap release price? Yeah, it reaches the 'dizzying heights of occasionally not boring', to paraphrase Zero Punctuation. Quite bland and repetitive, but actually a reasonable time sink. The game's bad reputation just comes from the fact that this was following MGS5, and it was after Kojima's departure from Konami after they went all Pachinko.
the fact that this game was actually somehow good (until the story just falls out of the bottom when you reach the jungle level) only adds to the tragedy of this game and how it was fucked over by konami's coporate team making it online only with microtransactions. Like if they spent a little more time making the second area feel like it wasn't half finished this could have been merely irritating
its still a great game if you can get over how shitty africa is introduced, like yeah Afghanistan i know the map from mgsv woo then just some random cut parts of the africa map without anything cool, its such a small area to explore compared to afghan and the story becomes so short, but then again blame corponami and their greed for what happened, kojima deserved the raise he asked for and they did this because of it
@@meowxeno tbh the african area was more fun to explore than the afghan one, it had more enemies variations, even through it was small compared to Afghan, it was alright.
I don’t know why, but I feel like Metal Gear Survive could have worked as a sandbox survival with base-building and a hint of RAFT. Just have a dude forced to survive against the carnivores that would be inevitably attracted to the destroyed Mother Base! Face off against sea-pirates and scavengers attracted to the millions in metal, medicine and weapons. Deal with sea storms and stuff. Once you build your raft or steal a boat, you need to navigate to a new land with its own survival problems and weather systems. New animals to eat and avoid. A STEALTH ACTION SURVIVAL game with MGS or Yakuza levels of wackiness would be great!
Coming back to this video as a metal gear fan, I expected a little disappointment from the whole concept and story behind Survive, but I didn't expect to feel pain hearing "Overwatch Loot boxes."
To me the real horrif part was attaching metal gear to this games name. Would have been better without it. Also might have been a fun gane if the coop wasn't limited to select maps on wave defense
The wave defense was what made the game fun. It was intense and required skill and team work, I don’t see how the gameplay mechanics would work without it. the story mode was meh but the multiplayer was fantastic. Also worth noting that this was a planned dlc (the idea of the zombies and the base defense elements and the survival elements even came from Kojima before he left according to designer documents) for mg5 that was made into a full game, which is why the story mode feels so bland and incomplete compared to the phenomenal multiplayer because it was originally meant to be a few missions and nothing more then a way to introduce the backdrop of the story and the gameplay mechanics to the player and was not intended to be a full length story campaign
MGSV is 9 years old. It's practically retro now. Genuinely can't think of anything Konami's pushed out since then that was received positively. But don't worry guys! SH2 Remake is gonna be lit! Ahh it looks sooo cool you guys why is everyone assuming it's gonna be bad???? Everyone remembers Konami!! Game publishers never let you down!!
MG Survive is just a tower defense game with MGSV gameplay. It's actually really fun if you give it a try. Too bad the single player is just an annoying grindy resource management simulator. If anyone is wondering, the reason why you need to pay for a second character slot is because there is a special currency you earn doing a mission at your base (I can't remember if it was daily or like 8 hours cooldown or something like that), and the currency is for the account and not the character, and you have different cooldowns for each save. I might be wrong, but as far as i can remember that was it
You're horrendously wrong, never talk about features you don't know about again. You are talking directly out of your ass. The second character slot is so you can basically have a second mother base to collect resources from, as well as other daily challenges being able to be done on repeat and more animals to hunt. You clearly didn't get why that was a thing. It's not a save file, it's part of your original character.
I was having a semi fun time with this game until I found out the base need supply's daily, in real time, or it starts to degrade. gave up after that. also the best things are rare drops in multiplayer and there is a class system but you need to beat the game before even getting to that.
@@dansmith1661 once you get npcs that mill about they need food, water, and medical supply's, and if you dont play for a few days they can die when your offline.
Coming from a person who has never actually played a metal gear game, before survive. I went into it with no prejudice. And tbh I honestly really enjoyed it. I think it gets more flack than it deserves at least. The mg5 engine plays really nice, and it honestly works really well for the style of game it is. That's just my two cents.
Metal Gear Survive is what happens when you cut out the heart of the franchise, and defile the half dead carcass into an unrecognizable mess. If they really wanted to create an spinoff, they would be better off making an sequel to Metal Gear Rising Revengeance.
Or at least making a game of prequel for MGS4 only focusing on Raiden before his transformation to cyborg, like the original MGS Rising. But yeah, a sequel for MGRR is a must. And I want to see Rose and John again.
Am sad how Survive turned out, it could've been a neat "What if?" if it had more time to be developed. Lord of Dust is neat as are the other two bosses... I wish MGSV could've gotten new Monster Hunter fights like PW did.
I just want to take a moment to apreciate how you actually managed to grow from a fallout 76 channel to something way more entertaining (i'll watch you play anything tho)
Not many people will agree but i think Sons Of Liberty is the best in the series and it needs a remaster but saying that they'll probably screw it up if that happened.
Ngl I enjoyed playing this game purely because I like the building type survival games like this (it was also the first of any metal gear game I played)
Still not bored Me and my friends still play this on the PS4 enjoy the coop mode but single player is just awful. I got all the OP stuff from armors and weapons, didn't use bows n arrows, just exclusively using guns and elemental spear and we divided into roles. Me and my friend as berserker, while other 1 is base defense and builder. Overall, it's 50/100.
Sometime in the future, in 2080 or whatever, someone would make a detailed lore video about this game, explaining that this game was a misunderstood masterpiece 😂😂😂
People also say that forspoken will be called in 5-10 years an underrated masterpiece. Sorry, no. Not even if quality drops even further some games are just bad. Of course there will always be someone that likes something no matter how objectively bad it is (for me it's brink, to this day it's my favorite game in terms of pvp shooters)
The game is actually surprisingly good; as someone who came into it without any foreknowledge I found the early game especially good and the defensive gameplay challenging but rewarding. It just crashed in the second half, abysmally. It's a damn shame too.
@@lordofthecucks6553 To this day, it still has some of the best temporary base defense shit in any game anywhere. It's a system that, with limits, is infinitely superior to a host of other games in the same genre and should and would have been emulated if not for buttmad fanboys. It starts strong and peaks in the jungle when you defend with mortars and then quickly falls down but a better publisher working with a different studio could make it a solid 10/10 alas
As someone who's played this game, and... ssssslliiightly enjoyed it... Understanding the enemies, effectiveness, experimentation with the other melee weapons, and... playing Co-Op (aaaafter the entire story for the subclasses 😪) It's... alright. Not worth your time, and your money of course, but... It *caaan* be fun in the precise circumstances. 0/10 though.
I played it with an open mind. It was alright, and I like the bow and arrow (wished it was in MGSTPP). Now my problem is that it is online-only only. Meaning the single player missions cannot be played offline (as if Konami wasn't already stupid enough). The co-op is just one of the repetitive missions, instead of joining your pal in the campaign. Hell, Peace Walker, a PSP handheld game, have a bunch and bunch of missions (both campaign and extra) has a co-op mode. For an Online-only game, you'd think they would have Implemented a co-op feature for campaign as well for your buddies to tag along or separate to build your base and collect more resources. And random stuffs based on online time and such. Instead, Konami screwed it up royally just like they screwed their fans. I do not know what really goes on between Hideo and Konami, and Hideo and David on the Big Boss voice change fiasco, but we do know how Survive ended up as. If I have the time in the world, I would just move all the Survive asset to The Phantom Pain and doing something with it.
I never knew this game existed. I started off with MGSV:TPP and I'm beginning to become a fan of the MGS lore haha. I plan to play MGS:GZ next. Once MGSV is out of the way, can you guys give me some recommendation on which MGS should I play after? Seems MGS3: Snake Eater is pretty popular with memes. 🤔
Here's the cannon timeline order and preferred version of the game if you can get them MGS 3 Subsistence MGS peace walker MGSV GZ MGSV MGS MGS2 Substance MGS4
That 's why I didn't like people playing this game, they just expect the worse, don't try to learn how to play, doing nothing except complaining, and after that, saying that like their expectation, the game is bad. You can do that with the best game with the same result.
Exactly my opinion, I was very disappointed with many of my favorite creators who all said the same: no stamina, no health, zero equipment, zero expectations, skip all tutorials and then they complain how shitty the story and the gameplay is. The team tried their best and have made many updates and fixes to this game. This game is of course not the best Zombie and survival game, but it is a game to play with friends and have fun or goof around. I also like how all of them show their characters dehydrated and on the verge of death because of starvation and than complain how their character can’t sprint or take hits, like bro what do you expect? Also running with gas-mask in a dusted area takes a lot of stamina and inner strength because its harder to breathe, so it makes sense that character has to make more breaks. I don’t understand why he ran at the beginning of the story mode right into the dust, Vergil tells you at least a hundred times that its dangerous to enter without an oxygen-tank. I had a lot of fun with this game and a lot of my friends to. Like I said in the beginning it no Game Award Nomination but it certainly doesn’t deserve the hate.
It's not entirely bad. I got stuck on the last mission though, they send a massive amount of waves and my defenses just cant handle them. The automated turrets do good damage, but they don't take much to get destroyed.
I got this game for like $2 and it's just been sitting in my Steam library. Every now and then I'll try to give it a try thinking that if I make it past the first few hours it might not be too bad and then I immediately uninstall it after playing for 20 minutes
Dude, Metal Gear's been around since 1987. In 2022, it's 35 years old. The release date in the opening seconds was for the third official game in the franchise, Metal Gear Solid. Even the box art shown in the screenshot says Metal Gear Solid, and is for the Playstation. ... I mean, technically, yes, 35 IS more than 20...
haha yeah, I botched that intro phrase (my 2am writing seemed to all make sense at the time). I was going for the series is 20+, highlighting at MGS in 1998 specifically when the series nailed an insane gameplay style, but it ended up sounding like the series is barely 20 years old, that's my bad
it's 35 years not 20 -Metal Gear[a] is an overhead military action-adventure video game originally released in 1987 by Konami for the MSX2 computer in Japan and parts of Europe. Considered the game to popularize the stealth game genre, it was the first video game to be fully developed by Hideo Kojima-
@@DDshark_ Sometimes people reference playing the series when talking about the latest game. OP wasn't talking about Survive, he was talking about the Metal Gear franchise in general.
I still don’t get what was going through Konami’s mind when they said “ok, so after we fired Kojima Productions I think what the metal gear franchise really needs is a zombie survival game”
love how kev says the metal gear series is over 20 years old now, and shows the date when metal gear solid was released (1998), completely ignoring the fact that the first metal gear game was released in 1987 lmao. idk if he knew this or not but if any of yall didnt here you go lol
@@brkenppt2222 games are the levels the gameplay and the story. all of them sucks hear theres no story as i said. the gameplay is underbearbly grindy. and the levels just empty desert with red crsytals now and then. sure people can have fun in the mutiplayer but dosent mean the game aint trash. you could have fun watching paint dry with enough friends.
"Metal Gear Survive is the best game in the series" and other statements that will immediately make people stop talking to you, coming soon in bookstores for all the introverts that desire to be left alone.
I got the game upon release and still play it now 4 years later. The game was never given a fair chance and the majority of people that give it such bad reviews didn't play past the first 2 or 3 hours. I think it's actually a pretty good game that was never given a fair chance.
no its literally a lazy bootleg zombie survival game where you need to grind CONSTANTLY saying "its get better after the first 10 hours" is massive cope. i loved the old ps2 rampage game but i wont pretend its a great game that was just "misunderstood for its time" no it was a bad graphic two monster fighting game with dumb soda based barely existent plot.
@@housewilma4904 That's fair. I like the game. I just would ask people to actually play the game before hating on it. In my opinion it's a decent game though. I still play it and enjoy it.
same, i cleared area of the map. the surprise of coming out of the building in the one mission and catching a glimps of the huge creature in the dust was fantastic. the grind was fun, was a wizard with the bow.
Game is great :) once you get a littlebbit further is actually fun as hell. As well as those salvage mission in coop - with friend even better. Dont know why but story is quite interesting to me :)
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Remember when steam gave me the notification 4 hours late that was fun
Just so you know, Kev, Metal Gear is even older than that. The first game came out in 1987
nno
The reason the high level guy was so strong was because he never found the ‘exit game’ option. Some say he’s still trapped to this day.
The games multiplayer is a very fun and intense tower defense game. I use to play it all the time before it became impossible to play with a full group. Even kev said he was starting to enjoy it in the video.
this game was held back by the bad reviews because most reviewers didn’t play past the first few hours and it’s very obvious if you’ve played the game. It may not be a very good metal gear game but it is a good game it just takes some time to get there. There’s a reason it was in the top ten best selling games for that year in Japan. The single player is not the focus of this game but it is an ok experience on its own solely from the gameplay(story is shit tbh). The single player is just a way to get you comfortable with the mechanics for the multiplayer.
@@dirpyturtle69 then they should of made there own tower defense zombie game and not inserted it into metal gear.
if more people did give it a chance konami would made sure that the ONLY metal gear we would ever get after life titanfall after apex launched.
@@housewilma4904 It's Konami, they were just concerned about trying to make a quick buck before switching to pachinko
@@dirpyturtle69 "this game was held back by the bad reviews because most reviewers didn’t play past the first few hours and it’s very obvious if you’ve played the game" - I have played long enough to get platinum on PS4 and I can tell you that Survive is a steaming pile of garbage. It utterly fails not only as a Metal Gear game, but even as just a 'game' on its own. It is an asset flip with everything good that MGSV had stripped away, then you saddle it with annoying timewasting mechanics that no one asked for, with player "progression" amounting to absolutely gimping you to embarrassing levels at the beginning and letting you go just barely get close enough to what you could do in V after you've spent untold amount of hours on mindnumbing grinding. Then the sheer petty greed is what drives the final nail in the coffin where Konami deadass demands that you fork over a tenner if you want to make a separate save slot to check out the male-/female-only duds that you could get from multiplayer.
And multiplayer being good? Excuse me? It has *one* mode that is shallower than a puddle, with handful of maps, braindead AI, requiring you to pay up for monthly subscription if you made the terrible mistake of playing it on console instead of PC; not to mention that this useless little mode is the sole reason they could make the flimsy excuse of "the game has to be permanently online-only (even if you play purely singleplayer) to prevent "cheating", so have fun living by the game's schedule where you can be booted at any moment because we decided to do an unannounced server maintenance". Shame on Konami and shame on you.
P.S.: "There’s a reason it was in the top ten best selling games for that year in Japan" - yeah, because it is a metal gear game and majority of the diehard fanbase is in Japan. What a shocker.
@@dirpyturtle69 how much did Konami pay you to write this comment?
This is even more pointlessly cruel than that one time you made your friend play Aliens Colonial Marines in co-op.
Oh God that happened?
His friends must have the patience of an saint to put up with Aliens Colonial Marines and MG Survive.
man I remember that game being fun, until the queen bossfight.
@@VUND-25 Funniest part is that alien ai in colonial marines sucked so hard because somebody made typo in ini file
But the extraction and extermination modes were pretty fun,playing as alien was pretty cool
@@weaponizedautism3269 the last I played that game was like 4 year ago and I never had gold so I only ever played the campaign with my brother
Forcing your friends to play this game should be considered a federal offense because it is one of those cruel and unusual punishments
He just violated the Geneva conventions
Satan will keep the doors to Hell closed to Kev.
@@tonypeppermint5329 Satan will give Kev his job
Why? It's a fun game.
I've lost hours to random ass crashes after the 8th crash i was done with the game... Indeed this is a cruel game to make anyone play
out of all the "forced my friends" series thiss must be the most vicious and malevolent one till now
Next time he should force them to play something good like BloonsTD6
Absolutely evil.
Survive is actually a good game, don't listen to cringe helmet
@@BillSchrader good try Konami ceo
"I forced my friends to play Metal Gear Survive"
Well... If they still talking to you, that's how you know they are your real friends
@@BillSchrader "My name is Bill Schrader and I don't understand jokes"
How did Konami screw this up so bad? They literally had the perfect game, MG5, as a base... All they needed to add was workable multiplayer. One job, Konami...
I wouldn't say perfect game... Konami ruined by putting a deadline and leaving Kojima out of development for the later half of the game causing the metal gear fight with Eli to be scraped.
@@simonsonlyfan8600 perfect as in the sense of something to build off of. We all know it had a bunch of cut content at the end, thanks to Konami.
The multiplayer was fun. We had a blast. Now i will say this if you dont like looting, survival, and balloon tower defence like games. You wont enjoy this.
@@simonsonlyfan8600 Only because he was caught spending dev time and money meant for MGS5 on Silent Hills....the reason MGS5 is such a shit game is because of Kojima's own actions.
Well, it's Konami just look at how the silent hill HD collection turned out.
The weird thing with MGSurvive is that, the single player section of the game sets you up for the multiplayer section of the game. However, the single player section is grindy and kinda too long for it’s own good, and the multiplayer is very disconnected from the rest of the game, even though it’s the entire point of the game.
Weird.
Also, it’s technically the first Strand-type game.
the story can also become unbearably painful and impossible to complete if you don't just grind it out too, the resource hell and constant micromanaging can drive people away early
@@meowxeno There is no need to grind. You literally win with QTEs.
I think there's a thematic reasoning behind this game structure. The idea is that your single player experience of Metal Gear games is kind of "too long for its own good" like all those codec scenes, and "grindy" because there's so many games and it's tough to track them all down IRL nowadays. Then, the whole point of playing Metal Gear isn't just to have this "single-player experience," it's to share your experience with other players and enjoy their perspectives on their own experiences.
@@meowxeno this is only true if you do zero exploration and also don’t interact with any of the base mechanics.
Resources are so plentiful in this game once you get past the beginning that The survival mechanics are a joke and ammo is so inexpensive and easy to produce that the only reason not to use guns is because your carrying capacity is too limited to not use melee weapons during the tougher parts of the game.
@@meowxeno As a Monster Hunter World Player I unironically really like this game.
The only new thing this game has that I wish Phantom Pain had is the gear customization options.
Agreed, but you also get sub classes and other things like weapon perks, sprint and movment boosts. Its not bad but it supports a certain kind of player who enjoys survival games.
It does have it. You can customize weapons in Phantom Pain once you track down the Legendary Gunsmith in side ops.
@@mr.battle20 i think quar means the clothes and weapon options. Like u can look as silly as u want and customize all individual clothes.
@@Saltymedpac8008 You can change the colors/camo on the weapons. As for clothes, you can change the camo and a bunch of the possible patterns can be on the silly side. No Metal Gear REX or fish hats, though, I guess.
@@mr.battle20 Nah thats not wht i mean, you can have, t shirt, pants, gloves, helmet, and then cosmetics like snakes bandana. u can change anyone of those to any camo provided you find it out in the fog
“How bad can it really be?”
“My game won’t go full screen”
His PC sucked
The joys of PC gaming. PC games are great when they want to work properly with your hardware, but when they decide they randomly hate you, they conjure up the weirdest issues you can imagine for no explainable reason until you scour the depths of the internet to find the one other person who had the same issue, and hope they found a solution.
@@BillSchraderThe game sucked.
@@oompalumpus699 Didn't suck any worse than the phantom pain buddy
It's crazy to see how konami systematically destroyed every IP they owned.
Well it makes them more money to make Silent Hill Patchinko machines. So *HIT THE LEVER!*
A lot of people will never agree about it but the MGS series ended on a great note. MGSV came around full circle and told a great revenge story and down fall off Big Boss and Venom Snake. I just think of MG Survive as the undead nightmare of the series
chronologically this is a mid point in the mgs story
I mean,, its the middle of the overall story
And the game is literally unfinished but they shipped it anyway
still an amazing game though, dont think im knockin it
How dare you insult Undead Nightmare like that!
@@Psycokiller338 they are both games that used the same engine as their predecessor and was about more super natural elements than the original was. Sounds about the same to me
@@venomshake8187 hes saying that undead nightmare was actually good.
i think "fun" is the friends Kev lost on the way
TRUE
As a metal gear fan, I must say making a person play this is true evil
Why?
As a metal gear fan, I liked this game.
It's not a metal gear game and had it just been called Survive, it would have done better.
@@SleeprunnerInc Absolutely, but also i belive the whole drama behind kojima is what set it off. Think about it. Metal gear rizing is such a step out and it did amazing. This did pritty much the same thing but it got review bombed to absolute DOG WATER. By almost all the game critics. I recomend LOWEs vid. Dude explains it way better than me!
Personally I hated how different it was from the mgs games and it wasn't really my type of game but if you enjoyed it I'm glad you did
@@SleeprunnerInc you literally need have zero standards to have fun with this game, you can get the same amount of fun with a stick that looks like a sword
wow, a original story! let me FILL that story with microtransactions and pay2win mechanics! the fans will surely love that!~
EA like :"Write that down, write that down!"
I've went through the game without buying a single MTX.
its literally not a requirement to pay anything at all, nor is it "pay to win" when all it does is speed up the grind, you can pay to essentially halve the grind but the endgame is literally the same
@@meowxeno its not pay2win it only skips 400 hours of grinding the same spots 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@JonPL Why? surely fapping would be a better way to pass time than this torture.
'and my stamina bar ran out. i'm filled with indiscriminate rage' - me in every game with a stamina bar
I'm the same there... Except when it's dark souls. Cuz then I panic.
This might sound like an incredibly unpopular opinion....
But I liked this game. Crafting new stuff as it's being discovered was fun. Progressing in the "tech tree" from dirty water to filters, herb farms, animal farms etc.... was fun. Looking for world bosses and taking them down was fun. Trying different strats to clear survival dig maps was fun. Hell, my kleptomaniac self considered constant loot pickups fun, and I enjoyed the melee system when the Fighter subtree was maxed out.
The problem was that it's meant to be treated like that. It's a one-time sandbox where you come in, clear the story, stick around for a bit to advance tech or screw around with friends and then leave it behind. It's not immortal, and it's not meant to beat other MG games. It's a horrid MG game, but an okay 4/10 non-MG game
I'm with you. It's a horrible Metal Gear game, but at its cheap release price? Yeah, it reaches the 'dizzying heights of occasionally not boring', to paraphrase Zero Punctuation. Quite bland and repetitive, but actually a reasonable time sink. The game's bad reputation just comes from the fact that this was following MGS5, and it was after Kojima's departure from Konami after they went all Pachinko.
the fact that this game was actually somehow good (until the story just falls out of the bottom when you reach the jungle level) only adds to the tragedy of this game and how it was fucked over by konami's coporate team making it online only with microtransactions.
Like if they spent a little more time making the second area feel like it wasn't half finished this could have been merely irritating
I mean...it doesn't matter is you use the microtransations
So that's the only good thing about the game
its still a great game if you can get over how shitty africa is introduced, like yeah Afghanistan i know the map from mgsv woo then just some random cut parts of the africa map without anything cool, its such a small area to explore compared to afghan and the story becomes so short, but then again blame corponami and their greed for what happened, kojima deserved the raise he asked for and they did this because of it
It's disgusting.
Seethe over it
@@meowxeno tbh the african area was more fun to explore than the afghan one, it had more enemies variations, even through it was small compared to Afghan, it was alright.
I don’t know why, but I feel like Metal Gear Survive could have worked as a sandbox survival with base-building and a hint of RAFT.
Just have a dude forced to survive against the carnivores that would be inevitably attracted to the destroyed Mother Base! Face off against sea-pirates and scavengers attracted to the millions in metal, medicine and weapons. Deal with sea storms and stuff.
Once you build your raft or steal a boat, you need to navigate to a new land with its own survival problems and weather systems. New animals to eat and avoid.
A STEALTH ACTION SURVIVAL game with MGS or Yakuza levels of wackiness would be great!
Yeah, it could have worked, with another developer or in another universe.
"It can´t be that bad."
"My game won´t go fullscreen."
Off to a rousing start I see.
I just like how you get a veteran player out of your stream to carry you guys then at the end of the mission it was all for nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Coming back to this video as a metal gear fan, I expected a little disappointment from the whole concept and story behind Survive, but I didn't expect to feel pain hearing "Overwatch Loot boxes."
Thank you Sir Duit, for I loved the concept but could never bring myself to spend money on this game.
I did :(
@@king_of_codbo255 I bet it was a game 🥲👍🏾
To me the real horrif part was attaching metal gear to this games name. Would have been better without it. Also might have been a fun gane if the coop wasn't limited to select maps on wave defense
The wave defense was what made the game fun. It was intense and required skill and team work, I don’t see how the gameplay mechanics would work without it. the story mode was meh but the multiplayer was fantastic.
Also worth noting that this was a planned dlc (the idea of the zombies and the base defense elements and the survival elements even came from Kojima before he left according to designer documents) for mg5 that was made into a full game, which is why the story mode feels so bland and incomplete compared to the phenomenal multiplayer because it was originally meant to be a few missions and nothing more then a way to introduce the backdrop of the story and the gameplay mechanics to the player and was not intended to be a full length story campaign
the first metal gear for the msx actually came out July 7, 1987 making it 35 on the 7th
Freaking THANK YOU! Kev's great, but that was a goof for sure. I hope he keeps playing Metal Gear games though.
Metal Gear has been around for 35 years not 20. He needs fax brother
Oh man I botched that up. What I get for researching at 2am, haha.
Thank you for doing this for me.
You did the research for me. I knew it was older than 20 years.
Hell nawh bro METAL GEAR SURVIVE bro 💀
I drank two jars of moonshine over the course of this video.
MGSV is 9 years old. It's practically retro now. Genuinely can't think of anything Konami's pushed out since then that was received positively.
But don't worry guys! SH2 Remake is gonna be lit! Ahh it looks sooo cool you guys why is everyone assuming it's gonna be bad???? Everyone remembers Konami!! Game publishers never let you down!!
I can understand torturing your friends or holding their loved ones hostage, but this, this is just inhumane!
MG Survive is just a tower defense game with MGSV gameplay. It's actually really fun if you give it a try. Too bad the single player is just an annoying grindy resource management simulator.
If anyone is wondering, the reason why you need to pay for a second character slot is because there is a special currency you earn doing a mission at your base (I can't remember if it was daily or like 8 hours cooldown or something like that), and the currency is for the account and not the character, and you have different cooldowns for each save. I might be wrong, but as far as i can remember that was it
You're horrendously wrong, never talk about features you don't know about again. You are talking directly out of your ass. The second character slot is so you can basically have a second mother base to collect resources from, as well as other daily challenges being able to be done on repeat and more animals to hunt. You clearly didn't get why that was a thing. It's not a save file, it's part of your original character.
I love how he is soo honest.
Kev would be the kind of president would tell you is stealing and I would mind
I was having a semi fun time with this game until I found out the base need supply's daily, in real time, or it starts to degrade. gave up after that. also the best things are rare drops in multiplayer and there is a class system but you need to beat the game before even getting to that.
No you don't.
@@dansmith1661 once you get npcs that mill about they need food, water, and medical supply's, and if you dont play for a few days they can die when your offline.
Coming from a person who has never actually played a metal gear game, before survive. I went into it with no prejudice. And tbh I honestly really enjoyed it. I think it gets more flack than it deserves at least. The mg5 engine plays really nice, and it honestly works really well for the style of game it is. That's just my two cents.
You are wrong. Go play the real Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Survive is what happens when you cut out the heart of the franchise, and defile the half dead carcass into an unrecognizable mess.
If they really wanted to create an spinoff, they would be better off making an sequel to Metal Gear Rising Revengeance.
Or at least making a game of prequel for MGS4 only focusing on Raiden before his transformation to cyborg, like the original MGS Rising.
But yeah, a sequel for MGRR is a must. And I want to see Rose and John again.
@@CrystalWings12 if a MGRR sequal is made then raiden would probably be the villain considering the scene at the end of the game
@@bruhgod123 Idk, he's more like an anti-hero at that point..
Then again, he's not going to be another Snake, just like what happened to Venom Snake.
@@CrystalWings12 im pretty sure raiden was brainwashed by senator armstrong
"Another hand touches the..."
I said a very audible "NO", it's official, i play too much as John Scrolls V
"what is this camera"
"what is this weather"
did any of you actually play mgsv, that's what mgsv looks like too lol
I mentally blocked this game out, and you brought it back
Big anime fan here
the dry "I crave death" delivery made me crack up.
Am sad how Survive turned out, it could've been a neat "What if?" if it had more time to be developed. Lord of Dust is neat as are the other two bosses... I wish MGSV could've gotten new Monster Hunter fights like PW did.
I don't remember the Metal Gear franchise relying quite so heavily on Resident Evil monsters.
I am not joking, I keep forgetting that this game exists. I have never played it and my friends have never played it. Lol 😆.
I got to level cap in survive lol it was actually kinda fun when you know what to do and you pretend it's not a metal gear game
I just want to take a moment to apreciate how you actually managed to grow from a fallout 76 channel to something way more entertaining (i'll watch you play anything tho)
You mean eso channel?
Not many people will agree but i think Sons Of Liberty is the best in the series and it needs a remaster but saying that they'll probably screw it up if that happened.
Ngl I enjoyed playing this game purely because I like the building type survival games like this (it was also the first of any metal gear game I played)
Dude if youre on pc and you want to link up. Hit me up. I love the hell out of this game. It has its flaws but i have so much fun
@@Saltymedpac8008 I’m on Xbox
I haven’t played in awhile
@@nagisa3523 Do you stream?! i will watch
It’s great
Calling it the "Morbius of video games" is and unfair comparison for Morbius.
Rip those poor friends they will be missed
I would love a good game like this. Slow-paced, methodical PvP needs to be explored in more games, especially third-person ones.
Bro i dunno why i had a blast playing with my homies until we became too op and got bored
Still not bored Me and my friends still play this on the PS4 enjoy the coop mode but single player is just awful. I got all the OP stuff from armors and weapons, didn't use bows n arrows, just exclusively using guns and elemental spear and we divided into roles. Me and my friend as berserker, while other 1 is base defense and builder.
Overall, it's 50/100.
Sometime in the future, in 2080 or whatever, someone would make a detailed lore video about this game, explaining that this game was a misunderstood masterpiece 😂😂😂
People also say that forspoken will be called in 5-10 years an underrated masterpiece.
Sorry, no. Not even if quality drops even further some games are just bad. Of course there will always be someone that likes something no matter how objectively bad it is (for me it's brink, to this day it's my favorite game in terms of pvp shooters)
I played MG Survive, & enjoyed my time with it. Never let what others say dictate what you do.
*Never*
Same here I still play it. Most people I know that gave it a fair chance actually like it.
If they didn’t make it a metal gear game and instead a random zombie game ppl probably would of liked or atleast found it decent
The game is actually surprisingly good; as someone who came into it without any foreknowledge I found the early game especially good and the defensive gameplay challenging but rewarding.
It just crashed in the second half, abysmally. It's a damn shame too.
how much did they pay you?
@@aiharakotokorulesbluerose4170 Some elements are fun, but I definitely would not say it's anymore than mediocre
@@lordofthecucks6553 To this day, it still has some of the best temporary base defense shit in any game anywhere.
It's a system that, with limits, is infinitely superior to a host of other games in the same genre and should and would have been emulated if not for buttmad fanboys.
It starts strong and peaks in the jungle when you defend with mortars and then quickly falls down but a better publisher working with a different studio could make it a solid 10/10
alas
"He likes Minecraft." Why is this so funny to me 😂
This game actually doesnt seem that bad when you compare it to passing kidney stones.
only thing i remember is angryjoe drinking water and screaming SURVIVE
As someone who's played this game, and... ssssslliiightly enjoyed it...
Understanding the enemies, effectiveness, experimentation with the other melee weapons, and... playing Co-Op (aaaafter the entire story for the subclasses 😪)
It's... alright.
Not worth your time, and your money of course, but...
It *caaan* be fun in the precise circumstances.
0/10 though.
I played it with an open mind. It was alright, and I like the bow and arrow (wished it was in MGSTPP).
Now my problem is that it is online-only only. Meaning the single player missions cannot be played offline (as if Konami wasn't already stupid enough).
The co-op is just one of the repetitive missions, instead of joining your pal in the campaign. Hell, Peace Walker, a PSP handheld game, have a bunch and bunch of missions (both campaign and extra) has a co-op mode.
For an Online-only game, you'd think they would have Implemented a co-op feature for campaign as well for your buddies to tag along or separate to build your base and collect more resources. And random stuffs based on online time and such.
Instead, Konami screwed it up royally just like they screwed their fans. I do not know what really goes on between Hideo and Konami, and Hideo and David on the Big Boss voice change fiasco, but we do know how Survive ended up as.
If I have the time in the world, I would just move all the Survive asset to The Phantom Pain and doing something with it.
I never knew this game existed. I started off with MGSV:TPP and I'm beginning to become a fan of the MGS lore haha.
I plan to play MGS:GZ next. Once MGSV is out of the way, can you guys give me some recommendation on which MGS should I play after?
Seems MGS3: Snake Eater is pretty popular with memes. 🤔
Here's the cannon timeline order and preferred version of the game if you can get them
MGS 3 Subsistence
MGS peace walker
MGSV GZ
MGSV
MGS
MGS2 Substance
MGS4
This reminds me of Resident Evil: Umbrella corps
This game was a mess glad to see this game again 😆
Actual 🧢 great game
@@etcelmitten1381 until it gets repetitive.
@@etcelmitten1381 your tripping
@@jamonbrown29 nah you bugging bro actual good game
metal gear survive..... the only steam game I ever refunded
Players: We want MGSV co-op!
Konami: You want pachinko machine? No? Fine. Here you go. Metal Cog or whatever. It's zombies now. You're welcome.
Always was zombies, even in MGS5.
Actually Metal Gear is almost 35 years old, Metal Gear for the MSX came out in 1987.
"Colonel, this game is giving me aneurysm."
"Boom, there's a thing!" Explains prime gaming rewards so perfectly.
That 's why I didn't like people playing this game, they just expect the worse, don't try to learn how to play, doing nothing except complaining, and after that, saying that like their expectation, the game is bad. You can do that with the best game with the same result.
Exactly my opinion, I was very disappointed with many of my favorite creators who all said the same: no stamina, no health, zero equipment, zero expectations, skip all tutorials and then they complain how shitty the story and the gameplay is. The team tried their best and have made many updates and fixes to this game. This game is of course not the best Zombie and survival game, but it is a game to play with friends and have fun or goof around.
I also like how all of them show their characters dehydrated and on the verge of death because of starvation and than complain how their character can’t sprint or take hits, like bro what do you expect? Also running with gas-mask in a dusted area takes a lot of stamina and inner strength because its harder to breathe, so it makes sense that character has to make more breaks. I don’t understand why he ran at the beginning of the story mode right into the dust, Vergil tells you at least a hundred times that its dangerous to enter without an oxygen-tank.
I had a lot of fun with this game and a lot of my friends to. Like I said in the beginning it no Game Award Nomination but it certainly doesn’t deserve the hate.
@@Sontech2015 I'm happy to see that I am not the only one.
Love metal gear survive when the main character gear metal says"we're the metal gear" and survives everywhere
As a die hard mgs fan I don't think it was that bad and I enjoyed it fairly well
It's not entirely bad. I got stuck on the last mission though, they send a massive amount of waves and my defenses just cant handle them. The automated turrets do good damage, but they don't take much to get destroyed.
I'd try it if it could be played offline. But the fact that Konami is literally charging more for it than any of the Metal Gear games is hilarious.
@@channel45853 They are? Yeah that's hilarious considering how much it underperformed in sales.
@@LandofBrickForests I'm pretty sure it's ten dollars more than the usual price of Metal Gear games. Which is 19.99, their usual price.
@@channel45853 Lol, they should realize that's not gonna help it's case. When i bought it, it was actually on sale for $10.
MGS fan here, the game gets good after the learning curve. The game gets easier if you actually play it.
Im on the last mission and this game is actually pretty good. Not like a 10 but high 6.
Keep playing until you unlock co-op. It gets really fun then. You get way more resources and weapons from co-op too
They really nailed the title because the game just trying to Survive
I got this game for like $2 and it's just been sitting in my Steam library. Every now and then I'll try to give it a try thinking that if I make it past the first few hours it might not be too bad and then I immediately uninstall it after playing for 20 minutes
It does get better after a while... the problem is that "while" is around 15 hours or so.
"Survive Fkonami" oughta be an urban title.
Dude, Metal Gear's been around since 1987. In 2022, it's 35 years old. The release date in the opening seconds was for the third official game in the franchise, Metal Gear Solid. Even the box art shown in the screenshot says Metal Gear Solid, and is for the Playstation.
...
I mean, technically, yes, 35 IS more than 20...
haha yeah, I botched that intro phrase (my 2am writing seemed to all make sense at the time). I was going for the series is 20+, highlighting at MGS in 1998 specifically when the series nailed an insane gameplay style, but it ended up sounding like the series is barely 20 years old, that's my bad
@@Kevduit
Understandable. Still enjoyed watching the suffering. Also learned to never alt-tab in Survive.
Its metal gear phantom pain without the word "phantom"
it's 35 years not 20
-Metal Gear[a] is an overhead military action-adventure video game originally released in 1987 by Konami for the MSX2 computer in Japan and parts of Europe. Considered the game to popularize the stealth game genre, it was the first video game to be fully developed by Hideo Kojima-
This man just broke the Geneva convention by forcing his friends to play this
lol Great vid Kev, I loved the part where your friend was spamming the molotovs.
Man and mgsv was so good it was such a great direction for the series to go in for the future and we never got any others.
About 30 years since I played this on NES...Man I'm an old fart.
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@@DDshark_ Metal Gear originally was made for the MSX in Japan. This version was ported to the NES.
@@KnightGamer724 yeah but not metal gear survive
@@DDshark_ Sometimes people reference playing the series when talking about the latest game. OP wasn't talking about Survive, he was talking about the Metal Gear franchise in general.
@@KnightGamer724 ok it’s just strange
I still don’t get what was going through Konami’s mind when they said “ok, so after we fired Kojima Productions I think what the metal gear franchise really needs is a zombie survival game”
I actually had fun with this game, till I got endgame and had to farm the map every couple of hours.
love how kev says the metal gear series is over 20 years old now, and shows the date when metal gear solid was released (1998), completely ignoring the fact that the first metal gear game was released in 1987 lmao.
idk if he knew this or not but if any of yall didnt here you go lol
I remember this game, but to be honest do any of us really want to?
Yes me
We cannot comprehend the pure malice that runs through this man, stay safe everybody. This is one of the worst types of torcher I’ve seen yet
torture * Looks like survive haters don't know how to spell
@@BillSchrader I think I stand with the whole community of metal gear when I say no one liked survive
Play with your friends more please! its always such a funny vid!!
As someone who played through this games story completely, with the only justifiable reason I have being masochism, yea you're not missing anything.
@@brkenppt2222 after 15 hours of gameplay the story is literally one sentence "this is a diffrent earth that died to nanoplague" NO SHITTE.
@@brkenppt2222 games are the levels the gameplay and the story.
all of them sucks hear theres no story as i said.
the gameplay is underbearbly grindy.
and the levels just empty desert with red crsytals now and then.
sure people can have fun in the mutiplayer but dosent mean the game aint trash.
you could have fun watching paint dry with enough friends.
So.... when your gf isn't into C&B torture, you can cope by playing this?
Got it.
"Metal Gear Survive is the best game in the series" and other statements that will immediately make people stop talking to you, coming soon in bookstores for all the introverts that desire to be left alone.
I got the game upon release and still play it now 4 years later. The game was never given a fair chance and the majority of people that give it such bad reviews didn't play past the first 2 or 3 hours. I think it's actually a pretty good game that was never given a fair chance.
No
no its literally a lazy bootleg zombie survival game where you need to grind CONSTANTLY saying "its get better after the first 10 hours" is massive cope.
i loved the old ps2 rampage game but i wont pretend its a great game that was just "misunderstood for its time" no it was a bad graphic two monster fighting game with dumb soda based barely existent plot.
@@housewilma4904 That's fair. I like the game. I just would ask people to actually play the game before hating on it. In my opinion it's a decent game though. I still play it and enjoy it.
5:13 POV: You work at Konami and you love Metal Gear and you see Kojima and the boys flying away leaving you to your fate
Some people, including fans hate metal gear 5. I loved it, it was the game that got me even a little bit into the metal gear series
YEsss!!!!! welcome to the series, i hope you enjoy it. If your on pc and play survive or think about it hit me up i can help you figure some stuff out
Ya. I am playing the game for 3 days. And actually everything make sense. Gameplay is good. Story nice.
nah metal gear 5 is great the most fans complain about is the BLATANT second half of the story we never got to see cause konami bullshite.
On one side we have: biggest Metal Gear fanatic Kev has ever met.
And on the other side we have: Philip.
...
He likes Minecraft!
When I played this I really loved it, this is one of the games I played hours on end
same, i cleared area of the map. the surprise of coming out of the building in the one mission and catching a glimps of the huge creature in the dust was fantastic. the grind was fun, was a wizard with the bow.
Same here. I still play it
@@evancavalier647 once you start playing co-op you don't have to grind so much and it gets really fun in my opinion
14:40 thanks for this, cause you said that I just remembered I had a dream about just watching Morbius the other night, but it was different
Game is great :) once you get a littlebbit further is actually fun as hell. As well as those salvage mission in coop - with friend even better. Dont know why but story is quite interesting to me :)
I still play survive. It's fun especially the online multiplayer. No one gives the game a fair chance
@@illegalonsunday6838 No, wake up.
MG survive is an ok game it’s not good but it’s not that bad
metal gear (didn’t) survive
"Ive skipped like 6 cutscenes and they have all been things like...opening a drawer"
"its still a metal gear game..."
LMFAO