What were the Sacrifices REALLY About?
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- It's not that God is thirsty for blood. That's one of these internet village atheist fantasies and caricatures. That shows they don't really know much of anything about the Bible and the Levitical sacrificial system. Check this out!
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How could killing an INNOCENT animal make someone fit for sacred space? This is convoluted thinking, trying to justify God's cruelty. Animal sacrifice is sick and evil.
@@jennyclark6183 yes. I agree with you. Killing animals and eating meat is not God consciousness.
@@nagendrarp2453 Well according to the bible, it is.
G-d does multiple times mention the pleasure/satisfaction he gets from the smell and aroma of the offerings. Also he likes and dislikes certain types of incense. So it is not bloodthirst but thirst for the smell of good whole hog BBQ. (not hog but a sheep lol)
@@maktiki But God should be better than that.
I'm just thankful for the Lord Jesus Christ. We are doomed without Him.
amen thank you Jesus for saving a wretched sinner like me! by his stripes I am healed
Create the problem. Sell the solution.
@@valroniclehre193 We created the problem. Jesus offers the solution. And better yet, instead of us having to “buy” the solution, God paid for it for us. He chose to suffer and die for us even though he did no wrong. What a mighty King we serve who lays his life down for his enemies.
Your doomed if you don't eat the flesh and blood of your man-god? 😂😂😂
@@MapleBoarder78 we did not create the problem if anything God did by creating everything and he had perfect knowledge of what was gonna happen. Also its totally subjective that some one needs to die for someones sins muslims and jews have a totally different view not to mention other religions and all you can say is that theyre wrong based on your worldview
Yes. I came from practicing witchcraft and the occult - anyone who practices that stuff long enough begins to understand that there is a cost that must be paid for our workings and our actions in this existence. Understanding ritual magic helped me realize I need Jesus. God works in mysterious ways, all glory is His alone ❤️❤️❤️
What exactly were you practicing?
Anytime I wanted to practice the occult I was warned that for every spell I did it will backfire and not only backfire but come back ten fold. So I stayed away from it in fear that i will be twice punished
@@noorzanayasmin7806 And it does actually seem commonly those who practice the occult look much older than their age they are aging faster and are more prone to having weird diseases on them or their family likely from such backfire.
The occult means the information that we are ignorant about because it is being covered up. It is cloaked or occulted. Being unknown, it is scary to us. There is much that we are ignorant of.
Common sense told me that without messing with it.
Thank you! All of Dr. Michael Heiser's lessons will be missed, I'm so glad we have these videos! May God rest his soul until The second coming. 🙌🏽 Glory be to God Almighty 🤲🏽🙏🏼
Amen!
I just discovered Mr. Heiser's work a few weeks ago...bringing a different view of scripture that my spirit has been leading me to. (e.g. I've always questioned blood sacrifice).
Praying for your healing Dr. Heiser
It seems your prayers didn’t work. Shocking
We must learn to defend the faith like brother Michael. Soldiers for Christ.
"Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’” Matthew 9:13.
Thanks for discussing this topic! I really never understood it and how it came about as there is no lead in discussions in the bible but just a sudden shift to that being a thing. Thankful for Jesus taking this curse from us, God bless and hoping for your recovery soon, Dr. Michael Heiser 🙏❤
How can God be just and simply dismiss sin? He can't. If someone does not pay the penalty, then God is NOT just. But the good news is Jesus bore the wrath of God that we deserved (the penalty for sin) in order to satisfy God's justice. If he didn't, Romans 3:26 makes no sense.
"...whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, SO THAT he might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus." (Romans 3:25-26)
@@greg7384" Jesus died for your sins? You sure you want that blood on your hands? How about you take responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to scapegoat him.
I hope and pray that Michael is able to shrink that tumor in his pancreas. I do not know if the purpose was to shrink it by chemo, and possibly surgically remove it.Not quite sure, but he and his family will be in my 🙏 prayers!
Stay strong, Michael! You are much , loved!🙂👌
Could be caused by food with added GMO and additives. Food is the cause.
Yes, that’s the goal-shrink the tumor so it can be surgically removed.
He is now stronger than he ever was.
Rest In Peace Michael. Thank you so much. My belief in God is stronger for your work. Your books stand in my case in the place of those I read over and over.
አመሰግናለው🙏 Dr Heiser ....Praying for your recovery
I like to think of this way. When Adam and Eve rebelled God took the skin of an animal to cover their shame. An animal was sacrificed. When Israelites entered Sacred Space the sacrifice was a reminder of the de-creation that was required to cover humanities shame ( guilty conscious) that resulted from our rebellion.
Ohhh so smart you are
Very nice explanation, thanks :)
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@@qaz-fi1id Prayerful consideration. I wish smart.😊
Wow this makes sense! So now we are covered by Jesus, he's holy! Amazing!
I CAN’T IMAGINE A LIFE WITHOUT MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST,……….OUR ETERNAL HOLY KING,………AMEN
I can, and there's alot less hatred and bloodshed.
What
@@coulterkel Well there's the hatred of your family and your friends and even yourself, in order to put jesus first.
There's the myriad of hatreds performed over the centuries by christians with god as the stated motivation. The modern version being gay and trans.
There's the generalized hatred of the "other" constantly reinforced through the bible.
There's the hatred of all of humanity, assuming we all deserve to burn forever just for being born human.
How long should I make the list?
And no, its no excuse to say that there is some twisted interpretation, or pedantic rationale that makes any of this ok. We see it in the book. We see it in many people who do their best to follow the book. And we see the mechanisms that tie the two together.
There's plenty of hatred in jesus.
@@coulterkel I'm aware of the excuses people make for these passages. I don't make them. I see that cultish patterns of separation that cut people off from their support groups and recognize the harm.
Shame you can't.
I'm sure you have box standard replies for everything obviously wrong with your religion. I have heard them. They don't make sense. They aren't real reasons. Usually its just another appeal to the unknown or a twist of interpretation that is convenient at the time. An interpretation that is happy to be changed the moment you want the book to say something else.
It's dishonesty to protect dishonesty, and the world would be better off without.
"and is worse than an unbeliever" Yea and you wonder why people like me feel threatened. You just look at it being horrible and corrupt, then pretend its not horrible and corrupt. Just blatant denial. Your sacred truth is a human lie.
@@coulterkel For some reason your anti trans comment is showing up in my feed but not here, so i can't read all of it. Id be happy to adress whatever you had to say about that as well.
Maybe i can soften the hatred, but faith and hatred go hand in hand, and you seem very faithful.
Thank you for sharing Dr Heiser’s teachings, I’m very grateful. Blessings for his family 🌿
Thank you Dr. Heiser for your clear and precise message especially about the creation and de-creation.
How can God be just and simply dismiss sin? He can't. If someone does not pay the penalty, then God is NOT just. But the good news is Jesus bore the wrath of God that we deserved (the penalty for sin) in order to satisfy God's justice. If he didn't, Romans 3:26 makes no sense.
"...whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, SO THAT he might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus." (Romans 3:25-26)
Most brilliant man of God ive ever listened to. Just ordered two of his books. Wow, what an incredible guy
Other scholars exist, just so you are aware. Heiser's Fan Club seems to not be aware of this. It's no surprise. Heiser said a lot of things that A LOT of other scholars have been saying for years...but Heiser always seemed to spin it as if they were all his own ideas.
Want to become celebrated and famous? Read things everyone in academia knows about and write to a popular-level audience like it's some new discovery. It's like rewriting Macbeth at a 5th grade level and having everyone think you're some kind of genius.
Praying for you Doc
If not for Jesus and His sacrifice I would most certainly be lost . Praise Jesus! Let's all remember to pray for the children .
Excellent as always!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom 🙏 listening from Ireland 🇨🇮 ☘️ ❤️
Listening from England too! Simonline 😀👍🙏
We miss you, Dr. Heiser, yet your wisdom and instruction remain with us.
Wonderfully explained! ❤️
Dr Heiser's teachings are truly sent from above. My prayers continue for healing of Dr Heiser & his 👪
He's one of my favorite ancient language and bible scholars👍😄
Thank you Dr Heiser for your Truthful Teaching and Research.. and presenting His Truth .. to His Children so we can better understand.. His Love and Justice .. 🤍🕊🤍
@@termination9353 You are a lier and a thief.
Pray for him, he's wrong. YAHSHUA defeated yahweh
Love and blessings from Sydney Australia.
Also, in most of these sacrifice situations most of the sacrifice animal was eaten! Some of it given to the priests/levites and the rest offered in the burnt offering.
This was true in such sacrifices across the board. This is how Constantine used Mithraism to draw in followers of Mithra. He tied it back to the concept of the Communion to draw in the Roman male population the same he used Isis to triangulate Mary to draw in the female population.
Of course they ate it, except of course for the blood which belongs to the Lord. You need to understand that the blood of all life belongs to the Lord, and must not be eaten but poured on the ground. And that is one law that carries into the New Testament even today.
@@francisdrake6131 blood, fat, and entrails were not to be eaten from the sacrifice. How is that carried into the new covenant?
No one ate the burnt offering. The priest ate a portion of some offerings but not the burnt offering. The offerer and friends and family could eat some offerings, but not all. For example, the priest eating part of a sin offering was like a righteous person ingesting the impurities of someone on a lower level of purity in order to elevate them. There are about 7 different types of offering. Each with its unique rituals, purpose and meaning.
@@joelhering3522 the blood is obviously at the heart of the new covenant. The choice fats relate to our inner desires. Jesus focused on the inner dimensions of the sacrifice in his teachings to us.
Best explanation I’ve ever heard. Thank you doc 😊
There is nothing here that justifies killing an innocent animal. It's just sick.
How can God be just and simply dismiss sin? He can't. If someone does not pay the penalty, then God is NOT just. But the good news is Jesus bore the wrath of God that we deserved (the penalty for sin) in order to satisfy God's justice. If he didn't, Romans 3:26 makes no sense.
"...whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, SO THAT he might be JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus." (Romans 3:25-26)
Still don’t get it
I thank God for the time He blessed my life by leading me to the teachings of Mike.
But it does not make me miss him less
Thank you, Dr. Heiser
Thank you so very much 🙏😊!
Thanks you, Dr. Heiser.
Thank you Dr. Michael, such things as animals being killed were what the enemy used to keep me away from God. Satan uses every trick to keep us from serving God.
I'm looking forward too getting home, more than anything.
That was very clear and informative. I had, , like most, thought about the cost but not about the concept of "decreation." I'll be contemplating that for awhile. In terms of cost, I think of the hymn, "Jesus paid it all. All to Him I owe."
Anyone asking you to kill stuff to enter their "sacred space" might not be the best influence.
@@termination9353 I don't think any of that happened. At all. You can't verify anything of what any supposed gods like, love, hate, pay attention to, or even are.
@@valroniclehre193 you do not understand the culture, time, context that this book was began being written. The world around these people was filled with sacrifice, including human.
@@deborahgrantham7387 I appreciate the time in which this book is considered a moral guide. Namely now. These practices were and are, wrong.
Also notice how your reply contrasts with the previous ones. It's almost as if there is no real message and any excuse will do, so long as you can keep pushing your fables onto other people.
@@termination9353 I disregard the religions that requires you to go to a priest, pope, prophet, or president to tell you what the Bible “ really “ says. When Jesus died, the curtain to the room that only the high priest could enter and only once a year was torn completely open. You are able to go to Your Creator yourself with the only intermediary being Jesus. Go back to the beginning of the Bible and learn what the priests are, learn what the meaning of the temple is. These things are repeated again and again through.
The Bible says to work out your own salvation. Do not depend upon humans to feed you the correct answers. You will be mislead.
Priceless
I hope your feeling well. Pastor, I’ve heard resently and never thought it befor but the phrase cut off is cut off as in the silver cord. That sound correct? I wanted to share the thought with you?
Someone talked about the imagery of Christ dying on the cross for our sins. He likened it to human sacrifice. I never thought of it that way but after I heard him say that it has continued to disturb me to a certain extent.
Good video. Very interesting things. I would like to add, the annual blood sacrifice performed by the High Priest was an archetype of things to come. It was to remind the people not only how terrible the price is of the spilling of blood, but that the future Lamb was coming to make that final sacrifece for our redemption necessary to restore God's perfect government and order, and to be fit to be a kingdom of priests and kings. To be the "sons of God" again. I agree God's purpose with us is to have fellowship. To literally walk and talk with Jesus in true friendship. That's why at his coming, as Paul stated, "this corruptible body must put on incorruption... " We have to be made presentable before the Lord. New bodies filled with new spirits. As Jesus said, " no one puts new wine into old goatskins". This is significant, because God covered Adam and Eve with goatskins after their sins. The old goatskins are no longer sufficient.
Wow. I learned so much. Thank you Jesus for paying for our sin.
See you in heaven. Thanks for everything.
The blood of Jesus redeemed me back to my Father. Bless the Lamb of God ❤❤❤ to God be the glory ❤❤
Heiser was always so good at making high theology accessible to anyone.
Awesome video 😎
Dr Heiser is the BEST!
THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT FOR BELIEVERS TODAY TO UNDERSTAND.
Any updates with Dr. Heiser?? Health wise? Haven’t heard anything.
what happened to him?
He's looking pretty good, praise God, in these videos if they are current!
@@hughjass6327 He was diagnosed with I believe Pancreatic Cancer a year ago. I believe I heard he's doing well, but I'm not 100%
He passed away yesterday.
Scripture backs why carnal sacrifices were never any good, only Yeshuas body is good enough:
Hebrews 10:3-10 But instead, those sacrifices actually reminded them of their sins year after year.For it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.That is why, when Christ came into the world, he said to God, “You did not want animal sacrifices or sin offerings. But you have given me a body to offer.You were not pleased with burnt offerings or other offerings for sin.Then I said, ‘Look, I have come to do your will, O God- as is written about me in the Scriptures.’”First, Christ said, “You did not want animal sacrifices or sin offerings or burnt offerings or other offerings for sin, nor were you pleased with them” (though they are required by the law of Moses).For God’s will was for us to be made holy by the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ, once for all time. - 🙌🙏
@@termination9353 but the scriptures say it was YAHS plan:
1st Corinthians 1:23;25 So when we preach that Christ was crucified, the Jews are offended and the Gentiles say it’s all nonsense.This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God’s weakness is stronger than the greatest of human strength. -
John 10:17-18 “The Father loves me because I sacrifice my life so I may take it back again.No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” -
Even moses wanted to shed his blood for Israel according to torah but GOD denied his human sacrifice:
Exodus 32:32-33 But now, if you will only forgive their sin-but if not, erase my name from the record you have written!”But the Lord replied to Moses, “No, I will erase the name of everyone who has sinned against me. -
Gods plan was for Messiah to die and shed his blood:
Isaiah 53:4-12 Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins!But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people.He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave.But it was the (Lord’s good plan) to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the (Lord ’s good plan) will prosper in his hands.When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins.I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels. -
Luke 22:20 After supper he took another cup of wine and said, “This cup is the new covenant between God and his people-an agreement confirmed with my blood, which is poured out as a sacrifice for you. -
Luke 24:44-46 Then he said, “When I was with you before, I told you that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must be fulfilled.”Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures.And he said, “Yes, it was written long ago that the Messiah would suffer and die and rise from the dead on the third day. -
Where in the prophets does God tell us he himself will be the messiah and will be killed as a temple sacrifice to abolish sin once and for all? I'll wait. 😂😂😂
@@openigang OK:
Daniel 9:24-26 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to (finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins,) and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the (Messiah) the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.And after threescore and two weeks shall (Messiah) be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. -
Isaiah 53:10 But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an (offering for sin), he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord ’s good plan will prosper in his hands. -
Psalm 22:14;16;30-31 My life is poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart is like wax, melting within me.My enemies surround me like a pack of dogs; an evil gang closes in on me. They have (pierced my hands and feet).Our children will also serve him. Future generations will hear about the wonders of the Lord.His righteous acts will be told to those not yet born. They will hear about everything he has done. -
Zechariah 12:10 “Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the family of David and on the people of Jerusalem. They will look on me whom they (have pierced) and mourn for him as for an only son. They will grieve bitterly for him as for a firstborn son who has died. -
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@@unprofitableservant3706 None of those scripture answered my question. Actually they put u in a worse place because Isaiah said He would crush Him, shouldn't that be he would crush himself? And what descendents did the messiah have? Jesus had a wife and kids? Wow! U silly Christians 😂😂😂
@@openigang ✌
1st Corinthians 2:7-14 No, the wisdom we speak of is the mystery of God -his plan that was previously hidden, even though he made it for our ultimate glory before the world began.But the rulers of this world have not understood it; if they had, they would not have crucified our glorious Lord.When we tell you these things, we do not use words that come from human wisdom. Instead, we speak words given to us by the Spirit, using the Spirit’s words to explain spiritual truths.But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. -
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Rest in Peace 🌱🙏📖💜
I would really like to know the nature of sacrifice prior to the law. Did they just kill an animal and waste it all on the fire? Or was it also eaten?
This is interesting. I often wondered why religions across the world have this tradition of sacrifice. We have original Godly sacrifices and later we have fraudulent sacrifices dedicated to these 'gods'. Cain's sacrifice was unacceptable while Abel's was. Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin. Creation and de-creation is new to me but it makes sense.
Vegetables and grain was also offered and acceptable in the Levitical system. It's not the shedding of blood that is needed, rather the application of it when it is an animal. Also, in the Bible it doesn't say that the substance of Cain's sacrifice was not good, but that he didn't offer it with the right heart. "If you do well, will you not be accepted?"
*You should read what Plato said about the sacrifices allegedly committed in what we call the 'Atlantean' civilization. It matches the sacrifices we see in Judaism completely.*
*Cain's sacrifice was unacceptable because the dis-obedience that preceded the sacrifice was transmuted to the sacrifice itself. The wrong sacrifice was the result of having the wrong heart.*
@@thetruthchannel349 Very good, ole chap!
Because the religions of the world are products of the same creatures. The people who thought throwing virgins into volcanoes would change the weather are operating on the same intellectual level as the video here.
miss you Dr. Heiser
There are No More Sacrifices because of Jesus ❤❤❤
I wish I could ask Dr. Heiser how this relates to different atonement theories - PSA, ransom, etc. etc.
You can read Leon Morris's or Doug Moo's or Thomas Schreiner's commentary on Romans...or TD Alexander...or Jay Sklar...or DA Carson...or Darrell Bock...but no...only internet atheists have such misconceptions about God. These scholars are just idiots...according to Heiser, the only scholar in existence.
More, more, more. Thanks
I've been wondering about this stuff. Somehow many christians skip this part. One atheist said "well why was there sacrifice in the first place?" I would like to answer that question.
As a Christ follower i still wonder the same thing
@@jonnyw82 the Book of Hebrews explains. I don't fully understand yet but I know that one reason was the sacrifices were meant to be a "shadow of things to come", that is, they were foreshadowing Christ. Hebrews says that. They symbolized the sacrifice of Jesus, so I suppose by performing those sacrifices, perhaps they were "exercising" their faith in the future sacrifice of the Messiah they believed God would deliver?
@@boatcaptain6288 The next logical question would be why did God need to sacrifice Jesus to forgive us?
Does anyone know of reliable/academic texts that go into that theme of Creation vs. De-creation? I'd like to dig into that a bit more.
All we need for life and salvation is in the Bible. 2nd Tim 3:16-17. Don't let puffed up knowledge muddy up the simple message of substitutionary atonement. Old testament believers sacrificed in faith that God would provide a sacrifice for atonement. Genesis ch 3 says that the seed of Adam would be bruised on the heel but would bruise the head of the serpent. It was a promise and a foreshadowing of the gospel message
It’s like a reminder every time they come near he is the author of life and death and constantly reminds us that’s why I love that Bible verse when Jesus says apart from me you can do nothing! Because he is the author of life and death
I am in despair…it is not unbelievers that worry me much. I know in my heart that all of Gods children will be saved!
I worry about the ‘so called’ body of Christ that do not know their bible, that teach/preach heresy and lunacy!
So many do not understand the word of God. I thank the Lord for leading me to Dr Heiser, I have learned so much from him that has totally consolidated my understanding.
The huge thing that gets me at this time, that really does weigh on my heart, is the amount of Christians that believe our eternal life is in heaven!
Yet scripture clearly shows that Jesus Christ on His return will set up the Kingdom of God in Jerusalem from mount zion! Every knee shall bow and all nations shall come each year to mt Zion and worship the one true God.
So many Christian’s pin their hope on going to heaven! Jesus is coming back to earth to establish His kingdom.
Heavenly Jerusalem descends to earth!
Heaven on earth.
And He shall be our God and we shall be His people and He will reside in the midst of us!
Why oh why are so many wanting to just go to heaven!
Heaven will be on earth!
@COMFORT YE, COMFORT YE MY PEOPLE!!!
Is.40:10. Behold, His reward is with Him and His work is before Him. God bless you & yours!!!
Humans used to sacrifice other humans to gods, and often children. Even in the bible it talks of moloch and children being burned alive to him.
It was a great advancement to move towards animal sacrifice. And it was an even great advancement to move further away from any sacrifices.
Early man was offering food to the gods at their shrines to gain favor but noticed after a while (generations) something was wrong bc they didn’t consume it. Their understanding of the gods evolved and they realized they weren’t in the shrines they were in another realm, in the heavens. They burned the food so it’s essence would rise up into their dwelling place. Man’s understanding of morality and God evolved further and they began to give sacrifices for the intent of being redeemed from their moral failings rather than just trying to gain favor yet still believing the gods/God wanted sacrifices but no longer believing they consumed the burnt offerings, it was more symbolic. Evolution continued and the prophets began to claim God didn’t even want sacrifices but he just wanted humans to conduct themselves morally but the problem was the sacrificial system was codified in their holy texts and can’t just be removed. Jesus enters scene and ends the sacrificial system by becoming and “fulfilling” the sacrificial system. Today we look back and try to make sense of why God ever needed or wanted sacrifices not understanding it was an ancient idea that evolved over time.
I have long believed that the sacrificial system was about providing fellowship with YHWH in the face of un-atoned sin, which the blood of Yeshua (Jesus) ultimately atones. Where are you getting the 'de-creation' concept from-is there something in other Semitic cultures that shares this thought? Is it something from the Talmud?
I have wondered about this topic often. I think in a way you can see the symbolism of the Gospel in daily life.. like our need to eat meat... something innocent has to shed its blood so that we might live.
@@termination9353 I’m lost on what you’re saying honestly
Thank you!!
I like Michael's teaching ,but I would recommend Good God Ministries, psalm 50:8 If you came across an animal sacrifice who would you think did it?
I always wondered Dr.Heiser!
One or two intelligent people have thought about these things before Tim Mackie and Michael Heiser were born. Just thought you might like to know. Spread the word!
I'm just now getting into Leviticus, and as hard as it is for me to comprehend it, it feels almost significantly harder to comprehend this commentary on it. Lol
This was perfect.
The Bible Project Podcast went through Leviticus fairly recently (3 months ago) starting at episode 304 and Tim's explanation of the levitical system is much easier to understand as he takes the listener back to the Hebrew language and what the words and rituals meant in context for the Israelites.
The Bible Project's explanation isn't different from Dr Heiser's, it's just clearer IMHO
Heiser is someone who helps out the Bible project, I would be surprised if he didn’t have anything to do with their Leviticus series.
@@termination9353 I'm torn between trusting a random youtube comment or trusting millenia old Church founded by Jesus Himself. I'll go with the Catholic Church.
@@FiatMihiSecundumVerbum I don’t know if it’s fair to claim that he founded the Catholic Church. His doctrine was absolutely not Catholic as far as I can tell. Also he was a strict sabbath keeper. Observed the dietary laws and feasts. He was observant to his fathers instructions ( with perfection) and taught others to be as well. As far as I know there is little there in common with what I understand the Catholic Church to teach and the way the messiah lived and taught. In fact he basically condemned people that did not do and teach the law to being the least in the kingdom of heaven. We are to be found imitators of him walking as he walked. I find it pretty troubling that if we keep or follow basically any form of what is called modern Christianity( Catholic included) we will find that our life looks nothing like his.
Best,
Daniel
@@termination9353
I think it is more damning that the Catholic Church burned people at the stake for the offence of printing Bibles in the native tongue of the people. And burned the "heretical" Bibles with them.
Btw, I think you'll find that most of the ideas of the heliocentric model actually come from the Catholic Church itself. It was a response to protestantism. A way of undermining belief in the ACTUAL Bible after the Catholic Church lost control of it.
Check out Amazing Discoveries. Walter Veith has very good, in depth lectures on a lot of these topics.
Also, research the doctrine of the Nicolataines that is mentioned in the beginning of Revelations. It is an enlightening topic on the early corruption of the structure of "the church".
It was never meant to be hierarchical...
@@termination9353 Hello Satan! Still spreading lies I see.
I never understood the sacrifices this is captivating
Thanks!
Great teaching once again.. except,,, what do you mean by the "deficiency of the Law"?
I would suggest that we should be careful of ascribing things which are not true when it comes to the "Law", it is the Word of God", the way how we should live, the Truth which gives life. It is such a Holy word.
I think the idea is that idol worship did not have a sin offering. The law did not cover that issue. Hence, the law was/is deficient.
Isnt that kind of the same train of thought as someone would have justifying human sacrifice? Why is this so much better? Besides being offered to the correct God..
I cant wrap my brain around how to explain this to my kids.. 😔
Rest in Peace until the Second Coming.
Praise be the Creator in the name of the precious Lord Jesus the Son.
Thank you
May, 2013:
While Jews study a number of religious books-from the Talmud to the Shulchan Aruch-the text that provides the religion’s very foundation is the Torah. And the version of the Torah most commonly studied by Jews is known as the Masoretic text, the most authoritative Hebrew version of the Torah.
But it is not the only one.
A small, ancient sect known as the Samaritans rely on the Torah, and the Torah alone, as their sole religious text-and the Samaritans use a somewhat different version. Two weeks ago, the first English translation of this Hebrew text was published by Samaritan historian and scholar Binyamin Tsedaka: The Israelite Samaritan Version of the Torah. There are some 6,000 instances where this version of the Torah differs from the Masoretic text; the question for scholars is which version is more complete, or more accurate.
The 6,000 differences between the two Torahs that Tsedaka highlights in bold in his book can be split into two categories: 3,000 of the differences are orthographical, meaning there are spelling differences or additional words placed in the text, while the other 3,000 are more significant in changing the Torah’s narrative.
Some of the orthographical changes help make the story read more smoothly. For example, in Genesis 4:8, when Cain talks to Abel, the Masoretic version reads, “Now Cain said to his brother Abel, while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him,” whereas the Samaritan Torah contains additional words: “Now Cain said to his brother Abel, ‘Let’s go out to the field.’ ”
The Samaritan Torah also offers a slightly different version of some stories. It includes parts of dialogues that are not found in the Masoretic text: For example, in Exodus chapters 7 through 11, the Samaritan Torah contains whole conversations between Moses, Aaron, and Pharaoh that the Masoretic text does not.
The other differences that are significant in narrative sometimes change the story, and sometimes “fix” small sentences that appear incoherent.
In Exodus 12:40, for example, the Masoretic text reads: “The length of the time the Israelites lived in Egypt was 430 years,” a sentence that has created massive chronological problems for Jewish historians, since there is no way to make the genealogies last that long. In the Samaritan version, however, the text reads: “The length of time the Israelites lived in Canaan and in Egypt was 430 years.”
Earlier in Exodus, in 4:25, the Samaritan Torah offers an alternative narrative to the slightly problematic story about Moses’ son not being circumcised when an angel of God “sought to kill him.” The thought that Moses did not circumcise his son, as the Masoretic text states, seems inconceivable to many Jewish commentators, Tsedaka noted. The Samaritan text, however, reads that it was Moses’ wife, Tziporah, who had to “circumcise her blocked heart” by cutting off her belief in the idol-worshiping ways of Midyan, her homeland. A mention of an “internal circumcision” is later found in Deuteronomy 10:16 in both versions, which reads, “circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and stiffen your neck no longer.”
Perhaps the most variant of texts within the two Torahs is the differences in the Ten Commandments.
“The Commandments are all in the form of ‘do’ and ‘don’t do,’ ” Tsedaka asserted. “The Masoretic version includes the intro of ‘I am your God that took you out of Egypt,’ as a commandment, when we see it as an introduction. Our Ten Commandments start later, and we have our last commandment to establish Mount Gerizim.”
While an “extra” commandment to establish an altar on Mount Gerizim might seem random in the Masoretic text, the part that follows the Ten Commandants in the Masoretic version talks about the forbidden action of building stairs to an altar. Some scholars believe that the Masoretic text would not be discussing steps to an altar without talking about an altar first, and so some believe there might be a part of the text that is missing in the Masoretic version.
Until the 1950s, Bible scholars turned to the Jewish Masoretic text as the definitive version of the Torah, virtually ignoring the Samaritan text. However, in the winter of 1947, a group of archeological specialists searching through 11 caves in Qumran happened upon the Dead Sea Scrolls. After rigorous study of the scrolls, researchers have come to believe there were several versions of the Torah being studied throughout Jewish history, according to Eugene Ulrich, a theology professor at University of Notre Dame.
The scrolls they found in Qumran matched the Samaritan text more closely than the Masoretic text, leading some researchers to believe the Samaritan text held validity in the minds of Jews during the Second Temple period and that both texts were once studied together.
“Finding the Dead Sea Scrolls proved that there were two versions, if not more, of the Torah circulating within Judaism, but they were all dealt with with equal validity and respect,” said Ulrich, who served as one of the chief editors on the Dead Sea Scrolls International Publication Project. “The Samaritan Torah and Masoretic Torah used to be studied side by side. The Masoretic text wasn’t always the authoritative version. They were both seen as important during the Second Temple time period.”
Ulrich said after the destruction of the Second Temple, the people split into three groups, each with their own text: The rabbis took the Masoretic text for their own, the Samaritans took theirs, and the early Christians used much of a different version called the Septuagint-a Masoretic version translated into Greek in the 2nd century BCE-in what later become the Christian Bible.
While most differences between the two Torahs are only slight and may not even be apparent to an untrained eye, according to Ulrich, the Samaritan Torah provides a more coherent reading because the story flows better in its text. “There are whole passages of stories missing from the Masoretic version,” he said. “A lot of the stories in Exodus and Deuteronomy are missing parts of the conversation, leaving the reader alone to do much assumption as the story goes on. In the Samaritan Torah, however, these gaps are filled, providing a smoother encounter of what actually happened.”
James Charlesworth, a professor of New Testament Language and Literature at Princeton University’s Department of Biblical studies, said the Samaritan Torah is his preferred version for some readings of the Bible. “As the stories and histories go, the Samaritan Pentateuch appears to be more favorable because the voice of the text reads more clear[ly],” he said. “In my judgment, the Masoretic version has some corrupt parts of it, and the Samaritan Torah is the best reading we have. There are sentences scholars are left to either reinterpret or simply ignore because they seem they don’t belong.”
Charlesworth believes Jews and Christians have not shown the Samaritan text the proper respect it deserves: Thousands of years ago, Samaritans and Jews had a shared interest in both scriptures, but the Samaritan Torah later became shunned. Charlesworth said this English translation would finally provide the academic world insight into the origins of the development of scripture.
The Samaritans claim their Torah is older and more authentic: “It’s more logical that a group of people who’ve lived in one place for thousands of years have kept their Torah preserved,” Tsedaka asserted, “as compared to a people who have moved all over the world.”
But some Bible critics side with the Masoretic version, citing it as older and, indeed, more authentic. Referring to a principal of textual criticism called lectio difficilior potior, which states that a harder reading of a text is preferred to an easier reading, Yeshiva University’s Aaron Koller said some scholars believe the Samaritan Torah’s text, which presents fewer interpretive problems, proves that it had been tampered with. “Some scholars believe someone took an original version of the Torah and simplified it to the Samaritan version,” he explained. “It’s hard to believe a difficult reading of a text is original, because why would someone change a text to make it unclear? Rather when a text is simplified, it’s easier to believe that the text was altered in order to make it simpler.”
Koller noted that the consensus view held by most Bible scholars is that the Masoretic version of the Torah is the older, original version. The structural changes of the Samaritan Torah give reason to believe it’s been changed, he said, but that should not stop people from studying it. Both should be studied, he said, to understand the history of interpretations of the Torah-a book that continues to unfold with meaning as time goes on.
“Outside of the Samaritan community, most believe the Samaritan Torah was an editorial revision of the Masoretic text,” Koller said. “But they are a group that consider themselves heirs to biblical Israel, just like the Jews. It’s important just to learn the remarkable tradition they’ve preserved for 2,500 years.”
Amen!
Even after listening to this, I still do not understand why innocent animals God created, that do not and cannot even have the capability to sin but do feel pain and experience suffering and would have no sense of why they're being slaughtered (by the hundreds of thousands sometimes) at all, have their sacrifice be the way God decides to cleanse either us or the place of His earthly presence? It still seems wicked and barbaric. I am a believer just trying to understand the intricacies of these things, not a troll, by the way. Thanks for all your work.
Me too, I don't understand how people are able to murder other people who are innocent or steal from the others and cause so much suffering that hey commit suicide or even burn they own children. What is the blood of animals in comparison to such crimes?
Animals are created for us, for our pleasure and food. When God takes away them from us, he essentially takes away our food and shows the people the consequence of their transgressions. Now they have to eat vegetables. The animals were very important at that time as the land of Israel is mostly desert, and loss of them was very painful for all. The rich were the ones who owned lots of animals. The loss of animals is an educational process. People, however, value animals too much, often more than they value people, but Jesus was ready to sacrifice two thousand pigs to save one man (the story with possessed man).
It makes perfect sense once you realize we had ignorant and superstitious ancestors. This guy tries to rationalize this primitive behaviour, that's why it's not making sense.
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God is perfect and all His ways are right. He created all things and therefore gets to do with Him as He will. I don’t like it sometimes, either. But one day we will know even as we are fully known.
The animals were needed by the families etc. that is why. They had to give up something they needed to try to reach them.
does anybody know where i could watch this entire thing?
This is a part of one of the lectures from the classes through ASOT. I believe it is from The Unseen Realm 101.
dope vid no cap 💯 🙌 👌
I remain confused on one point: How does the death of an animal, one admittedly valuable to the owner, provide any relief from impurity and how can God find a burnt offering appealing (as in appetizing)? Doesn't that characteristic speak to the human appetites rather than the Divine? The sacrificial aspect mirrors idolatry and paganism, doesn't it?
I think you are right and that’s why he can speak for 10mn straight and not answer the question in a way that clearly makes sense of it. Feels like we are forcing a round peg in a square hole.
Read the book of Hebrews.
@@belovedflorence4109 I'll try to have my mind cleared, but that is a very odd practice.
Not a supporter of sacrifice why should the innocent pay for the guilty ill never understand...still appreciate your work michael despite differences of thought in certain areas...im sad your not here to discuss this further
My best argument is that God just is crazy in love with his children sometimes a father will do crazy things to save his children think about it when someone is in love they do crazy things like sacrifice themselves go through insane suffering and punishment I mean the Bible does say the lord is a God of love.
One of the most helpful revelations in my Christ walk is the fact that WE are NOT doing God any favors by what we do or don't do. He established sacrifice for us to get His message, for us to understand Him. When God sacrificed animals to clothe Adam & Eve (to replace their wholly inefficient attempt at covering themselves), He was showing them how egregious their sin was, that something innocent had to die so they could live, and that they could survive outside Eden. Oh, and BTW, 66% of what you say goes way over my head; I have no idea what you are trying to communicate.
Here is a definition for the word ‘propitiation’ in Ro 3:25.
Thayer's Definition
relating to an appeasing or expiating, having placating or expiating force, expiatory; a means of appeasing or expiating, a propitiation
used of the cover of the ark of the covenant in the Holy of Holies, which was sprinkled with the blood of the expiatory victim on the annual day of atonement (this rite signifying that the life of the people, the loss of which they had merited by their sins, was offered to God in the blood as the life of the victim, and that God by this ceremony was appeased and their sins expiated); hence the lid of expiation, the propitiatory
Which certainly agrees with what it is written a couple of chapters later in the same book.
Romans 6:3-6 KJVS
[3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? [4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. [5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: [6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
@@termination9353 2 Peter 3:15-16 KJVS
[15] And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; [16] As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Where is this full lecture? I bet it's hours long
"Internet village atheist" gets me every time. 😂
There is also another part. When man moves away from God through sin becomes a slave to the demons. And demons demand a price for what has become theirs. And since God is just even with them the payment is in the form of blood. Also about decreation is not as much as decreating is showing your love to God. Think about this analogy. A child actually owns nothing of his own. Everything belongs to the parents until a certain age. But when he gives a gift to them, even though the gift is from what they gave them they feel happy because it shows that the child cares about the. Is similar with God. When we give gifts to God from what He gave us we show that we still care and love Him. Is more about the gesture.
Thank you Dr Heismer for teaching this. And sticking with the inerrant Wod of God. Forsaking all others and truly preaching God's word.
One has to put the law of Moses in the proper context. Apostle Paul does that in the book of Galatians.
Galatians 3:16-19 ESV
[16] Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ. [17] This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. [18] For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. [19] Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary.
Apostle Paul wrote this in the book of Romans.
Romans 3:20 KJVS
[20] Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Let us go again to the book of Galatians.
Galatians 4:19,21-31 KJVS
[19] My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, [21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. [27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. [28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. [29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. [30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. [31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Verse 26 give us some very important information. The mother in the 12th chapter of Revelation is not Mary, nor is it Israel. The mother is Jerusalem above, heavenly Jerusalem.
The life is in the blood, where they is sin there is death, death can only be destroyed by life , the shed blood is a picture of God replacing or redeeming death with his own life.
With all due respect to late Dr Heiser, aren't other ancient gods described as enjoying sacrifice and feeding on blood and burnt offerings? Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, ancient American cultures... Why would Yahweh be any different? A number of relevant passages in the OT tell us he is not. In fact, Yahweh is largely a composite figure directly based on Mesopotamian and Hanaanite prototypes. OK, one can re-conceptualize sacrifice in one way or another based on modern religious philosophy or morale, but the authentic texts tell us bluntly that gods, including a Jewish god, just want sacrifice for food and pleasure.
The Cross denotes sacrifice, picking up ones Cross in order to Equate with him, amounts to self sacrifices today that comes through following the two Commandments of Love,
Thank God for our Savior, Jesus!
Essentially, it is just really ingraining the idea that death is not natural and can have no parts in it at all.
so how does one know if they are fit, for sacred space...
Genesis 8:20-22 Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and, taking some of all the clean animals and clean birds, he sacrificed burnt offerings on it. 21 The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though[a] every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.
22 “As long as the earth endures,
seedtime and harvest,
cold and heat,
summer and winter,
day and night
will never cease.”
What cannot be dreamt? Even very convincing talk like this and all kinds of convincing evidence about anything.
If people understood the true sacrifices and making restitution is required, they would stop sinning.
Profound
Blood is currency in the spirit realm... I though he taught that concept in one of the books. Who was it that said that?
Blood is the refined fuel/raw material for physical bodies.
@@termination9353 I've never considered that... So mad and proud they didn't even think. Thanks for that tid bit of knowledge.
I though his book The Unseen Realm had that in there...
God did in Leviticus 17:11.
@@termination9353 I'm answering Atomkey Sinclair's question of where the concept comes from. You are missing the context.
WHEN MIKE TALKED ABOUT DE-CREATED, I WAS WONDERING IF THE LAMB OR GOAT FELT PAIN? SEEMS LIKE TORTURE TO HAVE THE THROAT SLIT. ANY THOUGHTS?
The Mishna (not authoritative) provides some insight into how the priests traditionally slaughtered the animal. Slitting the throat was really cutting the blood supply to the brain causing the animal to pass out and experience as little discomfort as possible. A very sharp knife was used. Ever cut yourself and didn’t know it till you saw blood?
In contrast, look at how we often inhumanely slaughter animals for food today…