your descriptions are very good. My concern would be how to keep it folded in transport and it's weight at 11 kilo. The ride looks very good, best of the best folder.
Helix bikes folds smaller, has bigger wheels, lighter weight, quicker deployment, and has been around longer. How did this Vello bike recieve an award and not Helix? Oh, and it is modular, too.
I own a Helix. It’s actually heavy AF. I don’t see ever folding it except to ship it. Plus, the folding mechanisms are difficult. The basic problem with Helix is that everything is overly complex like the folding mechanisms and saddle adjustments, to the point of dysfunction. It’s also proprietary and outside industry standards so your local bike shop probably won’t ever want to work on it when you get past the most simple things you can do yourself. Nothing is easy with the Helix. Their advertised measurements are also incorrect so if you’re on the outside of their fit range, it won’t actually fit you. Look elsewhere. Don’t buy a Helix..
@@randyholloway920 I own a Helix too. I tried to buy one for years then by chance found a backer selling theirs for a good price. I snapped it up. However, the support from Helix has been dreadful when I've needed them for help. At first it seemed great but then I was just deemed too annoying for asking questions about the bike and promptly ghosted. Since then I've had to figure out the mechanism for myself and it is overly complicated. Sometimes the top stopper knob doesn't pull out which gives me real anxiety! I love the idea of the bike but the execution and support is poor. I won't ever get rid of it though! And I agree with the bike shop issue. None know how the locking mechanism works! If this breaks, then I'm left with a bunch of titanium bike parts cluttering up the shed. This is why I don't use the bike often and more as a summer cafe racer bike. Titanium Brompton is far superior to the Helix and this Vello contraption.
Tried the bicycle at the dealer, indeed it feels more stable, comfortable than other foldies. The steel version is the "cheaper " model but also worth considering. And it looks great too.
honestly running up/down stairs is a hassle with any folding bike folded. Even with a brompton, because they are still too heavy and bulky to be carried easily. If you need to carry them up/down stairs just keep them unfolded and hook the saddle on the shoulder. They carry incredibly easy that way and distribute their weight much better. You can then just fold them before entering the train. The brompton definitely has an edge when its about space, though. But not by too much
@@MiceInDownpour I don't think the modern Brompton is very heavy anymore at under 10kg. I would like it lighter but am unwilling to spend the crazy money on the even lighter ones. There is no way I could carry the bike unfolded through the crowds; I'd end up getting sued for getting oil on some bankers suit. I do drag it around with the seat post partly extended. No one else even comes close to Brompton's portability in my opinion; and it's all down to that fold.
@theotherstevesteve under 10 ? What the 3 or 4k model ? The "normal" model is around 12kg, even though I can deadlift 200kg those 12 are still anoying as hell in tight spaces.
The use-case for many folders in Europe is convenient storage in a small apartment, not intermodal commuting. That said, I agree, the standard bi-fold folding bike, though it has maybe an extra step to fold, seems more useful than this design. I don't like the way the pulled-out handlebars are just supposed to flop around, or how the cassette and derailleur are exposed to bump against your leg while carrying.
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That is a COOL bike. Looks very well made.
can try helix with better fold and lighter but have bigger wheels :)
If only they made the Helix in a cheaper metal. Titanium is just too expensive
@@FOXMAN09 this vello rocky also titanium :)
@@regandono they make the vello rocky in regular metal for a much more affordable price. But I would rather have the helix
This folding bike makes nearly the most fun in riding of all folding bikes. But try to ride the "Bernds"-Folding bike. this is also a big pleasure.
I don't like the fork that is folding...
Love your use of classical music! Nice looking bike. Look forward to more videos about the bike as you ride it.
your descriptions are very good. My concern would be how to keep it folded in transport and it's weight at 11 kilo. The ride looks very good, best of the best folder.
Helix bikes folds smaller, has bigger wheels, lighter weight, quicker deployment, and has been around longer. How did this Vello bike recieve an award and not Helix? Oh, and it is modular, too.
I own a Helix. It’s actually heavy AF. I don’t see ever folding it except to ship it.
Plus, the folding mechanisms are difficult. The basic problem with Helix is that everything is overly complex like the folding mechanisms and saddle adjustments, to the point of dysfunction. It’s also proprietary and outside industry standards so your local bike shop probably won’t ever want to work on it when you get past the most simple things you can do yourself.
Nothing is easy with the Helix.
Their advertised measurements are also incorrect so if you’re on the outside of their fit range, it won’t actually fit you.
Look elsewhere. Don’t buy a Helix..
@@randyholloway920
I'm 5'6" is that outside Helix fit?
@@randyholloway920 I own a Helix too. I tried to buy one for years then by chance found a backer selling theirs for a good price. I snapped it up. However, the support from Helix has been dreadful when I've needed them for help. At first it seemed great but then I was just deemed too annoying for asking questions about the bike and promptly ghosted. Since then I've had to figure out the mechanism for myself and it is overly complicated. Sometimes the top stopper knob doesn't pull out which gives me real anxiety! I love the idea of the bike but the execution and support is poor. I won't ever get rid of it though!
And I agree with the bike shop issue. None know how the locking mechanism works! If this breaks, then I'm left with a bunch of titanium bike parts cluttering up the shed. This is why I don't use the bike often and more as a summer cafe racer bike. Titanium Brompton is far superior to the Helix and this Vello contraption.
The tire choice on the Helix seems like a great limitation to me. Not many will fit.
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Tried the bicycle at the dealer, indeed it feels more stable, comfortable than other foldies. The steel version is the "cheaper " model but also worth considering. And it looks great too.
do those magnetic lights come with the bike? If not, what are they?
Interesting bike. A lot to like. But that derailleur looks like it’ll graze the ground :/
Looks like Helix
Very nice review. Thank you!
Weight?
about 12 kg.
Wow, looks heavy for 20" wheels titanium frame
@@Clifu Thats heavy compared to the Brompton T-line.
Nice. I do use Brompton and Vello
原来可利呼还有英语频道😁
I would change the handle bar immediately to a standard solid one. Horrible idea.
It looks far too large when folded I can't see me running up and down the stairs to the train with that. They've ompletely missed the point I think.
honestly running up/down stairs is a hassle with any folding bike folded. Even with a brompton, because they are still too heavy and bulky to be carried easily. If you need to carry them up/down stairs just keep them unfolded and hook the saddle on the shoulder. They carry incredibly easy that way and distribute their weight much better. You can then just fold them before entering the train. The brompton definitely has an edge when its about space, though. But not by too much
@@MiceInDownpour I don't think the modern Brompton is very heavy anymore at under 10kg. I would like it lighter but am unwilling to spend the crazy money on the even lighter ones. There is no way I could carry the bike unfolded through the crowds; I'd end up getting sued for getting oil on some bankers suit. I do drag it around with the seat post partly extended. No one else even comes close to Brompton's portability in my opinion; and it's all down to that fold.
@theotherstevesteve under 10 ? What the 3 or 4k model ? The "normal" model is around 12kg, even though I can deadlift 200kg those 12 are still anoying as hell in tight spaces.
The use-case for many folders in Europe is convenient storage in a small apartment, not intermodal commuting.
That said, I agree, the standard bi-fold folding bike, though it has maybe an extra step to fold, seems more useful than this design. I don't like the way the pulled-out handlebars are just supposed to flop around, or how the cassette and derailleur are exposed to bump against your leg while carrying.
Must suck that your city’s railway station exits have no elevators
I think Helix is way better designed than Vello.