Hello everyone! This video has been in the making for a long time. It's a bit longer than usual but I felt necessary to keep it this way to properly convey my thoughts and feeling about Otto's character. Even so, I still feel like there is much more to say, but I tried to keep it as simple as I could. If you have any questions regarding the points I make in the video, feel free to leave a comment below and I'll do my best to answer them. With Otto's story officially done, my coverage for the next few months will shift to the Elysian Realm. Expect a lot of ER content this summer. Maybe I'll sprinkle in some Honkai: Star Rail if I have the time and I feel like it. Anyway, thank you all for watching! I'll end this with the words of a wise man: "Kallen, I'm coming!" SUBSCRIBE!!!
One thing I want to point out is that while Otto's plan was to lose to Kiana and Durandal, he still viewed destroying the present world/500 years of history as viable back up plan. He planned and accounted for losing, but he also accounted for winning.
I don't know if Ayato from genshin was already announced to have same Otto's VA when you made this video but you missed the opportunity at the end of the video "See you in another world" to show a genshin ayato's clip lmao
Bro your content is amazing. But the character sprite you are using looks uninterested and that make it a bit annoying to look at while watching your videos. It also makes me lose interest bit by bit while looking at it. It just so annoying to look at. I suggest changing his face to at least not a negative one.
You did forget to mention two things off the top of my head- He and Kallen loved each other. Whether they were in love doesn't really matter- they could never have gotten together without their relationship being dysfunctional; at the start of their relationship, a weak boy who thought of a girl as his hero and put her up on a pedestal, and at the end he would've been a 500 year old man reviving a twenty year old who he wasn't even in a relationship with, and Hoyo's writers are a lot better than that. But since they were children, the only people they really had were each other- Kallen's parents were dead and gone, and Otto's family were all neglectful, or distant, or actively malicious sociopaths, and all the two had was each other. And Otto's reasons for reviving her were, I think, more about guilt than love. He was the one who released the Honkai beasts that killed her, and that she was going to be executed doesn't really matter- he was the reason she died that day, he picked that method of causing a distraction, and he never realised that instead of just running away with him, she'd turn around and defend the people against them. He needed to make up for his mistake- like he said at the Imaginary Tree, he always felt like the world rewarded the scum, and punished the heroes- because for 500 years he's been living with the guilt of having lived on after he killed her.
@@emberthecatgirl8796 Depends whether he'd be satisfied with his life there- we don't know anything about the Otto that decided to extend his life in the first place, we don't know why he did it.
@@owo4470 Yeah, I think it’s something like that. Though IDK if that’d erase him from the multiverse or just the branches affected since we already have Dottore in Genshin who uses clones to prolong his lifespan and plays with “previous era” (pre-cataclysm) tech.
@@emberthecatgirl8796 iirc Otto sacrificed his existence in all universes to create one in which kallen would live, so i think he isnt in any other universe because he doesnt exist anymore, but i may be wrong
2 years later, and now im here. Otto never needed a redeeming quality, he was a fool who was driven by greed. when the hero wins, everyone expects it. but when the fool wins, everyone is surprised and gives that fool respect. otto was a fool. a antagonist. a villain. a orchestrator. a manipulator.
Let me get this straight You meet a girl in a dream world Date with her for few hours Spend all of her money Seeing her got stab and turn itu jelly That its?
This made me cry. Aside from the fact that every frame of Thus spoke Apocalypse makes me cry on its own, it's really refreshing to see someone not criticizing him. As a diehard Otto fan, one that play Honkai solely for him, who endured and still endure today periodi harassment for the sole "crime" of loving Otto, it's so good to finally see someone talking about him as an all--rounded character instead of "villain=bad" take most of the western Honkai fandom has. I think otto really had planned to reverse the time if Kiana and the other girls had failed to defeat him. After all, if they can't defeat Otto, what chances could they have against Honkai? Sending them back in time was a plan B to ensure that whatever the outcome was, Kallen would be alive and the world had more chances to win against Honkai. His was a mad bet, with a somewhat solid backup plan, that in the end paid of. Now he'll be on Star Rail, and I'm really glad for it. I'm not ready to say goodbye to him yet. It might sound silly, but Otto Apocalypse helped me overcome some really tough times, and I'm no exaggerating when I say that if I'm here today, he played a big part in it. So, to finally see someone appreciating him and his story without stopping at the surface level of understanding (Otto against protagonists = Otto bad) is really refreshing. Thank you so much!
Thank you for the kind words! This comment really made my day! And yes, Otto would have definitely not hesitate to sacrifice the current world if that was the only solution left. He even admits to it in the end. But the fact that he didn't, and that he planned to preserve the world as it is while reaching his goal is what makes him such a well-crafted character in my eyes.
He'll be on Star Rail? Is that something from HI3? Sorry, but I'm a HSR only player and I'm really interested in Otto. I watched his Chronicles video and man, what a bittersweet story it was. What do you mean by Star Rail? Is that related to HSR, or "Loucha", for that matter?
Otto Apocalypse truly is a well written character , and his actions in Chap 28 on the Tree will certainly be remembered for future lore on Star Rail and future honkai titles! but he's also the most important character to marked his traces in the Multiverse itself. Great video as always ^_^
HI3's theme of "May all the beauty be blessed" and "Protect all that is beautiful in the world" also applied to Otto. He sacrificed everything for the sake of the only person that is beautiful to him, Kallen.
Tbh what i hate about people when talking about Otto. Is just they describe and deduced him to just a "simp". And yeah, in a way he is. But he is more than a simp. He is this morally gray person that we all hate and some love in the Honkai universe. Even tho i hate Otto and not see his side of the story until his final moments in Ch. 28. It just pains me that people just call him a "simp". Someone should read the comment that a Captain did in "Thus Spoke Apocalypyse" vid. A farewell letter for Otto as one his fav character in the series.
The funny thing is that he's not a simp at all, the story makes it clear that after Kallen revealed she didn't have those feelings for him, he accepted it and simply wished to continue being close friends.
Is it not interesting that Otto, born from the house of a CHURCH, does not see worth in humanity because of it's complacence to ideals such as fate and gods? I believe this shows that Otto's view on humanity being a disgrace did not only start with Kallen's death, but since he was a child. He was shunned by his family because of his inventions and sickly state, already planting the seed to his hatred to church like ideals like fate and gods. This is such a genius part of the formation of his character, and only goes to show how someone's childhood can affect them all the way into the future, and for someone like Otto that's for over 500 years.
it is because Otto was born in a house CHURCH that he sees that what the public refers to as holy and depends on as the protector is just a corrupt organization and has no value to be protected.
Probably not. His father was actually a decent guy. Though he has problems like power hungry which was inherited by his daughter and sons except for otto himself. But overall his father did care for his offsprings and the people of his nation. Otto was happy being on the side. He grew up in a time of turmoil and disease. You are right about him doing shady things even before kallen's death. But he never thought human lives as worthless. He knows what he has done and he even admits that to kallen when she found out what he was doing. But his reasoning back then was it was a necessary evil to insure the many survives from the sacrifices of the few. With kallen's death the only thing that changes in his mind set was he was done pretending that what he does was for the greater good. He accepted that he is a vile man doing nefarious things to other people.
@@maosama3695 Even Kallen swallowed her morals when Otto was experimenting on people to cure the honkai created black death plague. What she couldn't accept was him continuing after the plague to get support, power etc.
Beautifully explained. For me everything he did for his own "opinion" of good can not be forgotten about. cecilia died kianas and biankas future ruined siegfried nearly died fuhua had a lot of hardships sirin got tortured mei had to sacrifice her own life st freya high school theresas wish ruined himeko died people in ae rebellion died many many more happened because of his opinion. He is an amazingly written villain and i hate him to his core. But he made the honkai more enjoyable. I myself dont see Kebin being as interesting as him but we will see. My worst thought is what will happen if kallen finds what otto had to do to make her deadnt. Would she take her life away? Would she gain more willpower to make the world into a better place? Worst of all she wanted otto to make the world into a better place WITH her. Now she is all alone against the world. Sure he gave the world a way to kill honkai but he also gave the world an enemy greater than it. Void archives is the most dangerous being humanity can face per vill-v. Goodbye the inventor i hated your guts and i still do but thanks for making honkai much more interesting.
I think the Kallen of the new timeline understood it was Otto who gave her a chance. "Our" Otto is dead, but "her" Otto is probably still alive, and has the potential to change.
Void Archives is dangerous in that it's *too* earnest. It's idea to get rid of honkai for good was to invite an invasive alien species to our planet. Not really a good idea
In retrospect, he really is just like certain well written antagonists that we normally see outside most modern Gacha Games(and sometimes modern Games in general) stories nowadays(Seriously Hoyoverse why are you unable to make Inazuma well written and make it a character oriented story instead). But in all retrospect, Otto is a masterpiece of a game that is always being in the shadows of Genshin Impact in terms of success. Its like watching an antagonist that went full Kirschtaria because Shana cannot be together with the existence known as Sakai Yuuji.
18:46 As I always say: it was all Aizen's.... I mean Otto's plan all along. Otto is basically the reason why Kiana and MEI were able to keep their humanity after turning into a Herschers, obviously Elysia's sicrifice opened that possibility but Otto was who concreted it. For me the mad lad was the most talented human to ever lived in that time line, I would dare to say that he even outplayed Dr. MEI and the flame chaser from the old civilization.
For all those that are new here and have come here after the Penacony story quest, listen up: I know it's all for the memes, I know its all for shits and giggles but you can't possibly compare Caelus/Stelle who have met a random girl only to be killed hours later to a guy that held 500 years of feelings towards his only support system in a time where they were both vulnerable. Otto is a much more complex character (which makes him my fave villain in a Hoyo game) and more than a "simp" as some of the HSR-only players have called him. Even the man Homu-Labs said it himself.
I started playing Honkai because of Otto, and also because I played Genshin and Tears of Themis. He’s so well written, well designed, has perfect voice actors and much more! I honestly can’t continue playing Honkai since Otto is gone now cause he was my only reason for starting.
Honestly from all the media i've consumed, i can't think of a character that evoked so many mixed feelings like Otto did. Great vid, you did justice to this masterfully written character.
Bro, i think you need to make a Follow up Video lmfao the Trailblazers are storming the imaginary tree for some reason HAHA, they're marching with under Otto's banner of influence xDD
It seems to me those shadows in Thus spoke Apocalypse are actually Ottos from other timelines that failed to reach the Imaginery on time and were consumed by that black thingy. If so, our Otto was the first one to success in thousands of other possibilities
Very Enlightening.... How Come Friedrich Nietzsche isn't a Stigma in the game??? Otto is Indeed A Well-Written and Compelling Antagonist. Hats off to Hoyovese. He is unique, so much so that if I express my opinion, I'll most likely contradict the way the character is meant to be understood. Awesome Vid Yet Again Man!
Wow, you managed to perfectly convey what's so great about this character in an easy-to-understand way, in only 20 minutes. Just goes to show how well you understood his character and how well crafted it was. Otto was truly one of the best antagonists I've ever experienced. Brilliant video, man. I hope your channel continues to get more attention and grow, you're making great stuff here.
The fact Otto was able to fully undertand how the "reality" work, and used it as he pleased makes him the only one (so far) to achive something others dont even dream on.
The court jester is also the only one allowed to mock the king or any noble they saw fit for mockery, because their mockery is meant to present the king/nobility with perspective.
People now understands Otto more and even sympathizes with his cause, even knowing why he did it, because Firefly died in Penacony (Honkai Star Rail 2.0 update).
Ngl im here to see what kind of character of otto because of the recent new penecony story quest in Honkai star rail the meme called " now i know what otto feels"
HAHAHHA, i get you, im literally seing Otto's Name being Featured these days Also Caelus being the 2nd Coming of Otto Apocalypse because of The Penacony incident
Can someone explain me what the last scene where Kallen and Otto holding hands resting in the tree mean ? Is it a past event of their childhood or a metaphor implying he found peace and solace in the afterlife ?
Otto is just... I don't know how to put my feelings about him into words. For one, I cannot find the respect and admiration that many others describe having for him. His ambitions are that of a child who lost a person he idealzied into a perfect hero and even in over 500 years, he never seemed to realized that. He ignored Kallen and focused all attention on the mask of a hero he'd placed over her. And even if he might have loved her in their youth, after 500 years, really, only the mask remains. for fucks sake, he makes a video game where the whole point is the two of them getting a picture book happily ever after. Then again, I love his kind of villain. The scheming, secretive type who always wears the same, knowing smirk and seems to be two steps ahead of the "good guys" at all times. He is enjoyable to watch whenever he shows up, ready to be even more of a nuisance. And he's especially amazing at this since he knows, he's aware, and he plays up the persona. It's tons of fun. Though he is entertaining, when I first watched him die, I was filled with satisfaction and even glee, mixed with some sadness that my favorite, overly dramatic clown had left the stage for good. On a level beyond just performance, He was right in some of the things he said. The world has no all - powerful entity enforcing justice and the ones who will emerge victorious are those most willing to do anything in order to reach their goals - the villains. But his strange, disturbed view of humans, coupled with his selfish, immature goals make it hard for me to like him as more than, well, an entertaining weirdo. In short: I like the silly clown man, was happy when he died and physically cannot empathize with his ridiculous actions.
i think he's just an example of someone who was the world's punching bag so he idealized the only source of positivity he had and in losing it he wasn't able to cope.
@@pforgottonsoul True, but that's something that really holds a normal person back for a couple months, maybe a couple years, and then just becomes a background factor. He got stuck on it as his main purpose in life for 500 years
Thank you so much for explaining Otto's arc in such detail. I'm interested in learning more about him because I'm still unsure about a few things. I regard him as a soulless individual whose single ambition is to resurrect Kallen before he is utterly lifeless and no longer exists, based on the little I know about him. stay safe fellow captain!!!
One of the coolest part of that entire animation was that he was fighting clones of himself Maybe reading too much into it but considering he was also kinda starting to be like them, I thought those clones were all the ones that failed to save Kallen
If you consider GGZ this is actually a very good theory. Because, Dr. MEI in GGZ Era Zero programmed the root of the imaginary tree to ensure that Kallen dies in every branch of the tree forcing Otto to become Overseer until Kiana and Mei become herrschers.
after rewatching this after Firefly’s death in HSR, i’ll follow Otto’s path to reach the imaginary tree and remove her irreversible illness and rewrite her death by the “death” no matter the cause to protect her
Otto, was such a great and complex character, who, despite himself, his glaring flaws, and total disdain for his own being, managed to hold true, despite the world working against him, to own vision, this is why I deeply respect him. Thankyou for putting it all in context, for those who are only capable of seeing the base attributes, completely bias in their own subconscious understanding. His parting song is still One of the top most emotional requiem, that never fails to both capture his inner struggle, and subsequent victory, I will always shed a tear when I hear it.. farewell you absolute inspiration of a madlad.. you will never be forgotten.. 💔❤️🩹❤️🔥💖💗💥🌈
Nicely done Sir, love your content! Loves the catch on Nietzche works! Deserves more subs and likes. I hope Hoyoverse find something more interesting to replace Otto in the story onwards... They always delivered so i choose to believe!
I've just read the Seven Swords Visual Novel and I gotta say. When Li Sushang was about to be killed by Ma Feima. Otto stopped him and saved her even if he had no reasons to. I saw the potential of the good Otto there. He could've just ignored it and let Li Sushang died, but he went and saved her while wielding the Judgment of Shamash that costed almost his life(Which is ridiculous since Otto was so obsessed in bringing Kallen to life. He wasn't thinking right when he went 1 on 1 with Ma Feima which was the total opposite of the usual cold Otto that would use anyone to achieve his goals) At first, he didn't care about Li Sushang which was observed by Ma Feima that made him lose interest in fighting Otto calling him as someone that didn't care even if the world ended, but he interfered when she was about to be killed. It reminded of the final scene when Otto fought with the Imaginary Tree. (T-T) It kinda hurts when I read Li Sushang describing Otto as just an ordinary human when he was asleep from his heavy injuries at the end of the fight. I hated him for what he did to Himeko. But, I pity him. If Kallen hadn't died maybe Otto wouldn't had been the main antagonist of the story.
Grea video, couldnt have said it better myself In my mind the houkai gakuen ending where otto and kallen love together happily is my head canon and no one can prove me otherwise
A devil that never dies. And known as the worst human that ever existed in the entire history of Honkai. But I cannot deny that he had the only best moment of his life: Kallen.
He may threatened some people in a strategy to empower themselves for his redemption...but that's never enough forgive when he kills : - Cecilia, Kiana's mom - Hua - Himeko And more... AND IRONICALLY, he release a honkai beast in attemp to save Kallen, but it's going to killed her instead !!
I want to say/believe that, at least, he sees theresa, as a person/someone to love first, a pawn of his plans second. From all event potrayal i am aware, otto functions as theresa's parental figure. To pick him as the parental figure consistently means that that part of him is genuine. And his final message to theresa at the end, thats a geniune farewell as a guardian figure. So at the very least, even if he can use her as seen in his dialoge during the plan to awaken Sirin, at the end, he does sees theresa as family
I’m thinking of writing a story like Honkai Impact… just need my friend to be free enough to work out the details. I’m too good at small-scale stuff but end up forgetting the larger context when writing a lot.
Yes, you are right. There are quite a few versions of Kallen in the Captainvers that are alive. There is one in the Sanka Saga story for Yae Kasumi, but she dies in the end. Otto could have very easily find a Kallen from another bubble universe that was alive. The thing is, he wanted to revive the same Kallen he knew 500 years ago. Simply finding a Kallen in the multiverse that is alive is not what he wanted. He wanted the same soul, and the same person he knew back then to be brought back. For that to happen, this was the only way. He created an alternate timeline from his original universe 500 years ago, and made a new branch sprout out in the exact moment Kallen dies, making sure that he saved the same person he knew back then, and not some multiverse alternate version of her.
Otto Apocalypse fought for all he thought was beautiful in the world, which was Kallen Kasalana. Without Otto, Kiana (Tuna) would not have existed and would not have been able to break the Herscher Mold to be able to save humanity.
You know I don't think kania and the gang will appreciate this if they saw this video I think it piss them off that there growth was plan by him and they still in his palm even after his death? yeah definitely be piss off
This is why I always said to Genshin fans WHY they shouldn't ask game dev for a wash out friendly villain who become an ally... Sorry doc... They are NOT an expect in friendship villain. CHECK Otto than you will understand why Hoyoverse should never stop making evil villain.
Most of the things said aligned with my ideas about him and the other things only build up to that. Otto is great character, best character in honkai in my opinion and all that build up only shows it. Not many villains, or anagonists I should say, acomplished their goals, and even less did so with such a success as did Otto. He didn't throw the world away because of his despair but did the opposite and took its fate in his hands. The result was great with the growth of Kiana, Dudu, Bronya, Seele, Theresa and much more to be there after he disappear and take the world in their hands and continue building it from there to new hights. The means weren't morally acceptable, no matter how you look at it, but in a war there are always sacrifices and you can't run away from that fact. PS: Sorry but my grammar isn't the best.
Hello everyone!
This video has been in the making for a long time. It's a bit longer than usual but I felt necessary to keep it this way to properly convey my thoughts and feeling about Otto's character. Even so, I still feel like there is much more to say, but I tried to keep it as simple as I could. If you have any questions regarding the points I make in the video, feel free to leave a comment below and I'll do my best to answer them.
With Otto's story officially done, my coverage for the next few months will shift to the Elysian Realm. Expect a lot of ER content this summer. Maybe I'll sprinkle in some Honkai: Star Rail if I have the time and I feel like it. Anyway, thank you all for watching! I'll end this with the words of a wise man:
"Kallen, I'm coming!"
SUBSCRIBE!!!
One thing I want to point out is that while Otto's plan was to lose to Kiana and Durandal, he still viewed destroying the present world/500 years of history as viable back up plan. He planned and accounted for losing, but he also accounted for winning.
I don't know if Ayato from genshin was already announced to have same Otto's VA when you made this video but you missed the opportunity at the end of the video "See you in another world" to show a genshin ayato's clip lmao
Bro your content is amazing.
But the character sprite you are using looks uninterested and that make it a bit annoying to look at while watching your videos. It also makes me lose interest bit by bit while looking at it. It just so annoying to look at. I suggest changing his face to at least not a negative one.
Who is that blonde character that keeps tripping 😢
You did forget to mention two things off the top of my head-
He and Kallen loved each other. Whether they were in love doesn't really matter- they could never have gotten together without their relationship being dysfunctional; at the start of their relationship, a weak boy who thought of a girl as his hero and put her up on a pedestal, and at the end he would've been a 500 year old man reviving a twenty year old who he wasn't even in a relationship with, and Hoyo's writers are a lot better than that. But since they were children, the only people they really had were each other- Kallen's parents were dead and gone, and Otto's family were all neglectful, or distant, or actively malicious sociopaths, and all the two had was each other.
And Otto's reasons for reviving her were, I think, more about guilt than love. He was the one who released the Honkai beasts that killed her, and that she was going to be executed doesn't really matter- he was the reason she died that day, he picked that method of causing a distraction, and he never realised that instead of just running away with him, she'd turn around and defend the people against them. He needed to make up for his mistake- like he said at the Imaginary Tree, he always felt like the world rewarded the scum, and punished the heroes- because for 500 years he's been living with the guilt of having lived on after he killed her.
Do you think that Otto would still end up living 5 centuries in the altered timeline?
@@emberthecatgirl8796 Depends whether he'd be satisfied with his life there- we don't know anything about the Otto that decided to extend his life in the first place, we don't know why he did it.
@@emberthecatgirl8796 pretty sure he was consequently erased from history by giving his soul up to the IT to make a new future
@@owo4470 Yeah, I think it’s something like that. Though IDK if that’d erase him from the multiverse or just the branches affected since we already have Dottore in Genshin who uses clones to prolong his lifespan and plays with “previous era” (pre-cataclysm) tech.
@@emberthecatgirl8796 iirc Otto sacrificed his existence in all universes to create one in which kallen would live, so i think he isnt in any other universe because he doesnt exist anymore, but i may be wrong
Finally, the analysis Otto deserves.
Only a few antagonists made me have mixed feelings for them, and two of them, are from Honkai.
May I ask you who is the other one? :D
@@HomuLabs Sirin XD
Understandable!
Otto and Kevin
We can see a good antagonist character if we hate them. But when we cried when we finally understand them and meet their end, it's Godly
So, am I the only one who is not crying for Otto?
@@Malick-ix9io yes
This is the Majick of Mihoyo here! Beautiful tragedy.. 💀❤️🔥
2 years later, and now im here.
Otto never needed a redeeming quality, he was a fool who was driven by greed.
when the hero wins, everyone expects it. but when the fool wins, everyone is surprised and gives that fool respect.
otto was a fool. a antagonist. a villain. a orchestrator. a manipulator.
and most importantly like he said a selfish person, one that i can understand completely even back when i used to play HI3rd.
20:02 And now TeRi brings him back because she doesn't want to work😂
Coming from the star rail to say that we finally understand Otto's side.
Nah genocide is wrong
@@Gioyoji☝️🤓
@@Theiscariotsin 😹🙀
We thought Luocha was the Otto expy. Its Caelus.
Let me get this straight
You meet a girl in a dream world
Date with her for few hours
Spend all of her money
Seeing her got stab and turn itu jelly
That its?
There's a void in honkai without Otto 😔. I really hope the future villains can fill that void
although otto took the most spotlight, the true villain in this game still is the honkai
@@Hizal-qj7qw funny thing is that otto is the reason for everything in honkai, but it's the honkai that led him to do it in the first place
@@guyschill2059 not rlly for everything, probably Kevin would still come and start project stigma
welp these new "villains" in part 2 kinda' ass 😂
This made me cry.
Aside from the fact that every frame of Thus spoke Apocalypse makes me cry on its own, it's really refreshing to see someone not criticizing him.
As a diehard Otto fan, one that play Honkai solely for him, who endured and still endure today periodi harassment for the sole "crime" of loving Otto, it's so good to finally see someone talking about him as an all--rounded character instead of "villain=bad" take most of the western Honkai fandom has.
I think otto really had planned to reverse the time if Kiana and the other girls had failed to defeat him. After all, if they can't defeat Otto, what chances could they have against Honkai? Sending them back in time was a plan B to ensure that whatever the outcome was, Kallen would be alive and the world had more chances to win against Honkai.
His was a mad bet, with a somewhat solid backup plan, that in the end paid of.
Now he'll be on Star Rail, and I'm really glad for it. I'm not ready to say goodbye to him yet. It might sound silly, but Otto Apocalypse helped me overcome some really tough times, and I'm no exaggerating when I say that if I'm here today, he played a big part in it.
So, to finally see someone appreciating him and his story without stopping at the surface level of understanding (Otto against protagonists = Otto bad) is really refreshing. Thank you so much!
Thank you for the kind words! This comment really made my day!
And yes, Otto would have definitely not hesitate to sacrifice the current world if that was the only solution left. He even admits to it in the end. But the fact that he didn't, and that he planned to preserve the world as it is while reaching his goal is what makes him such a well-crafted character in my eyes.
He'll be on Star Rail? Is that something from HI3?
Sorry, but I'm a HSR only player and I'm really interested in Otto. I watched his Chronicles video and man, what a bittersweet story it was.
What do you mean by Star Rail? Is that related to HSR, or "Loucha", for that matter?
@@EGO.BReAKERR some people refer to hsr as star rail and luocha is basically him
Otto Apocalypse truly is a well written character , and his actions in Chap 28 on the Tree will certainly be remembered for future lore on Star Rail and future honkai titles! but he's also the most important character to marked his traces in the Multiverse itself. Great video as always ^_^
I understand him now. After I lost Firefly..
HI3's theme of "May all the beauty be blessed" and "Protect all that is beautiful in the world" also applied to Otto. He sacrificed everything for the sake of the only person that is beautiful to him, Kallen.
Tbh what i hate about people when talking about Otto. Is just they describe and deduced him to just a "simp". And yeah, in a way he is. But he is more than a simp. He is this morally gray person that we all hate and some love in the Honkai universe. Even tho i hate Otto and not see his side of the story until his final moments in Ch. 28. It just pains me that people just call him a "simp".
Someone should read the comment that a Captain did in "Thus Spoke Apocalypyse" vid. A farewell letter for Otto as one his fav character in the series.
Most are people aren't.. switched on though.. 😉 I've noticed thos my whole life, the npc is real.
The funny thing is that he's not a simp at all, the story makes it clear that after Kallen revealed she didn't have those feelings for him, he accepted it and simply wished to continue being close friends.
I'd even go as far as saying that he's the best villian ever written, not just hoyoverse
For me ever is a strech, but he is definetely in my top 10 best villains ever,
Otto, kumagawa, yagami etc.. all them are great villain
Nah Otto is the best antagonist ever made forever and ever.
Is a bit of strech. But I would be ok if it was on some top 10
I dont think hes the best ever but I do think hes really close, along with Kevin
Is it not interesting that Otto, born from the house of a CHURCH, does not see worth in humanity because of it's complacence to ideals such as fate and gods?
I believe this shows that Otto's view on humanity being a disgrace did not only start with Kallen's death, but since he was a child. He was shunned by his family because of his inventions and sickly state, already planting the seed to his hatred to church like ideals like fate and gods. This is such a genius part of the formation of his character, and only goes to show how someone's childhood can affect them all the way into the future, and for someone like Otto that's for over 500 years.
it is because Otto was born in a house CHURCH that he sees that what the public refers to as holy and depends on as the protector is just a corrupt organization and has no value to be protected.
Probably not. His father was actually a decent guy. Though he has problems like power hungry which was inherited by his daughter and sons except for otto himself. But overall his father did care for his offsprings and the people of his nation.
Otto was happy being on the side. He grew up in a time of turmoil and disease.
You are right about him doing shady things even before kallen's death. But he never thought human lives as worthless. He knows what he has done and he even admits that to kallen when she found out what he was doing. But his reasoning back then was it was a necessary evil to insure the many survives from the sacrifices of the few.
With kallen's death the only thing that changes in his mind set was he was done pretending that what he does was for the greater good. He accepted that he is a vile man doing nefarious things to other people.
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Even Kallen swallowed her morals when Otto was experimenting on people to cure the honkai created black death plague. What she couldn't accept was him continuing after the plague to get support, power etc.
Just came in from HSR 2.0, we understand him now more than ever before 😆😆😆
Beautifully explained. For me everything he did for his own "opinion" of good can not be forgotten about. cecilia died kianas and biankas future ruined siegfried nearly died fuhua had a lot of hardships sirin got tortured mei had to sacrifice her own life st freya high school theresas wish ruined himeko died people in ae rebellion died many many more happened because of his opinion. He is an amazingly written villain and i hate him to his core. But he made the honkai more enjoyable. I myself dont see Kebin being as interesting as him but we will see. My worst thought is what will happen if kallen finds what otto had to do to make her deadnt. Would she take her life away? Would she gain more willpower to make the world into a better place? Worst of all she wanted otto to make the world into a better place WITH her. Now she is all alone against the world. Sure he gave the world a way to kill honkai but he also gave the world an enemy greater than it. Void archives is the most dangerous being humanity can face per vill-v.
Goodbye the inventor i hated your guts and i still do but thanks for making honkai much more interesting.
Well APHO already spoil about void archive anyway....
I think the Kallen of the new timeline understood it was Otto who gave her a chance. "Our" Otto is dead, but "her" Otto is probably still alive, and has the potential to change.
Void Archives is dangerous in that it's *too* earnest.
It's idea to get rid of honkai for good was to invite an invasive alien species to our planet. Not really a good idea
When we were kids, we idolized Heroes.
When we turn adults, we understand Villains.
In retrospect, he really is just like certain well written antagonists that we normally see outside most modern Gacha Games(and sometimes modern Games in general) stories nowadays(Seriously Hoyoverse why are you unable to make Inazuma well written and make it a character oriented story instead).
But in all retrospect, Otto is a masterpiece of a game that is always being in the shadows of Genshin Impact in terms of success. Its like watching an antagonist that went full Kirschtaria because Shana cannot be together with the existence known as Sakai Yuuji.
18:46 As I always say: it was all Aizen's.... I mean Otto's plan all along. Otto is basically the reason why Kiana and MEI were able to keep their humanity after turning into a Herschers, obviously Elysia's sicrifice opened that possibility but Otto was who concreted it. For me the mad lad was the most talented human to ever lived in that time line, I would dare to say that he even outplayed Dr. MEI and the flame chaser from the old civilization.
Returning to this banger of a video after HSR pulled that shit with Firefly
For all those that are new here and have come here after the Penacony story quest, listen up:
I know it's all for the memes, I know its all for shits and giggles but you can't possibly compare Caelus/Stelle who have met a random girl only to be killed hours later to a guy that held 500 years of feelings towards his only support system in a time where they were both vulnerable. Otto is a much more complex character (which makes him my fave villain in a Hoyo game) and more than a "simp" as some of the HSR-only players have called him. Even the man Homu-Labs said it himself.
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When the honkai is finally sealed Imma be proud of Otto
I'm proud of Otto
@@guyschill2059 Thanks
Otto's Love for Kallen is truely neverending
He is the human representation of what Mei said
"If saving you is a sin,ill gladly be a sinner"
I started playing Honkai because of Otto, and also because I played Genshin and Tears of Themis. He’s so well written, well designed, has perfect voice actors and much more! I honestly can’t continue playing Honkai since Otto is gone now cause he was my only reason for starting.
Same. You know the emptiness you feel after finishing a series? I felt that with his death
Honestly from all the media i've consumed, i can't think of a character that evoked so many mixed feelings like Otto did. Great vid, you did justice to this masterfully written character.
Caelus rn
This is the only video that accurately describes Otto. His morality, His goals and his methods. All accurately describes what Otto is.
Thank so much
Otto is oddly simmilar to Fate's Shirou on the sense of the loss of "himself"
Wow fellow sword enjoyer 😮
@@crimsonarc03 I am the bone of my sword,
Steel is my body and fire is my blood
Well either Heaven feel shirou or Oath under snow shirou or The Exact opposite of Kiritsugu
boutta fire up the wrought iron with this one 🔥🔥🔥
I wonder what would happen if Otto has Shirou's obsession.
Bro, i think you need to make a Follow up Video lmfao
the Trailblazers are storming the imaginary tree for some reason HAHA, they're marching with under Otto's banner of influence xDD
It seems to me those shadows in Thus spoke Apocalypse are actually Ottos from other timelines that failed to reach the Imaginery on time and were consumed by that black thingy. If so, our Otto was the first one to success in thousands of other possibilities
Very Enlightening.... How Come Friedrich Nietzsche isn't a Stigma in the game??? Otto is Indeed A Well-Written and Compelling Antagonist. Hats off to Hoyovese. He is unique, so much so that if I express my opinion, I'll most likely contradict the way the character is meant to be understood. Awesome Vid Yet Again Man!
Otto: Will of Honkai, give me the answer to save her
WoH: KYS
Otto: Rude!
WoH: No, like.. for real, kys, that's the answer
If you still haven't understood Otto after watching this video, play Star Rail's Penacony storyline.
You'll be the next Otto.
Nobody dies, unfortunately
Wow, you managed to perfectly convey what's so great about this character in an easy-to-understand way, in only 20 minutes. Just goes to show how well you understood his character and how well crafted it was. Otto was truly one of the best antagonists I've ever experienced. Brilliant video, man. I hope your channel continues to get more attention and grow, you're making great stuff here.
The fact Otto was able to fully undertand how the "reality" work, and used it as he pleased makes him the only one (so far) to achive something others dont even dream on.
The court jester is also the only one allowed to mock the king or any noble they saw fit for mockery, because their mockery is meant to present the king/nobility with perspective.
I am back here after I witnessed the very same thing Otto experienced
What an amazingly crafted video analyzing one of the best written villains ever. And what a brilliant job Mihoyo/Hoyoverse has done.
People now understands Otto more and even sympathizes with his cause, even knowing why he did it, because Firefly died in Penacony (Honkai Star Rail 2.0 update).
Ngl im here to see what kind of character of otto because of the recent new penecony story quest in Honkai star rail the meme called " now i know what otto feels"
I was wondering what everyone meant when they say otto has a point
HAHAHHA, i get you, im literally seing Otto's Name being Featured these days
Also Caelus being the 2nd Coming of Otto Apocalypse because of The Penacony incident
Can someone explain me what the last scene where Kallen and Otto holding hands resting in the tree mean ?
Is it a past event of their childhood or a metaphor implying he found peace and solace in the afterlife ?
I rewatch this. How could I didn't give a like back then.
I don't care what others say, Otto (HI3rd) is the best character in the Hoyoverse.
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Otto is just... I don't know how to put my feelings about him into words. For one, I cannot find the respect and admiration that many others describe having for him.
His ambitions are that of a child who lost a person he idealzied into a perfect hero and even in over 500 years, he never seemed to realized that. He ignored Kallen and focused all attention on the mask of a hero he'd placed over her. And even if he might have loved her in their youth, after 500 years, really, only the mask remains. for fucks sake, he makes a video game where the whole point is the two of them getting a picture book happily ever after.
Then again, I love his kind of villain. The scheming, secretive type who always wears the same, knowing smirk and seems to be two steps ahead of the "good guys" at all times. He is enjoyable to watch whenever he shows up, ready to be even more of a nuisance. And he's especially amazing at this since he knows, he's aware, and he plays up the persona. It's tons of fun.
Though he is entertaining, when I first watched him die, I was filled with satisfaction and even glee, mixed with some sadness that my favorite, overly dramatic clown had left the stage for good.
On a level beyond just performance, He was right in some of the things he said. The world has no all - powerful entity enforcing justice and the ones who will emerge victorious are those most willing to do anything in order to reach their goals - the villains.
But his strange, disturbed view of humans, coupled with his selfish, immature goals make it hard for me to like him as more than, well, an entertaining weirdo.
In short: I like the silly clown man, was happy when he died and physically cannot empathize with his ridiculous actions.
i think he's just an example of someone who was the world's punching bag so he idealized the only source of positivity he had and in losing it he wasn't able to cope.
@@pforgottonsoul True, but that's something that really holds a normal person back for a couple months, maybe a couple years, and then just becomes a background factor. He got stuck on it as his main purpose in life for 500 years
Why does this video needed to show itself to me just rn? Really?!?
This is definitely one of if not the best video on Otto I've seen, great job!
You’re right Otto I’m you
I mean, anyone who says they wouldn't simp for Kallen, _IS LYING!!_
Mihoyo's tagline shouldn't be "Tech Otakus save the world" but instead "Fck the world, save the waifu!!"
the great inventor, and madman Otto Apocalypse
Thank you so much for explaining Otto's arc in such detail. I'm interested in learning more about him because I'm still unsure about a few things. I regard him as a soulless individual whose single ambition is to resurrect Kallen before he is utterly lifeless and no longer exists, based on the little I know about him. stay safe fellow captain!!!
One of the coolest part of that entire animation was that he was fighting clones of himself
Maybe reading too much into it but considering he was also kinda starting to be like them, I thought those clones were all the ones that failed to save Kallen
If you consider GGZ this is actually a very good theory. Because, Dr. MEI in GGZ Era Zero programmed the root of the imaginary tree to ensure that Kallen dies in every branch of the tree forcing Otto to become Overseer until Kiana and Mei become herrschers.
Fellow trailblazers, we are gathered here today to unite as one, the apocalypse shall rise once again!
can't wait to hear your voice again i miss that 👌
If Otto chooses to become a good guy instead of villain. He probably just need to help Kiana learn her Void Powers & asked her to help him.
Uh nah. If Otto wasn't such a monster, his achievements would never happen. All of his success is made through the sacrifice of so many people.
If he chose to be a good guy, he would move past Kallen and die a more normal death. K423 wouldn't exist.
after rewatching this after Firefly’s death in HSR, i’ll follow Otto’s path to reach the imaginary tree and remove her irreversible illness and rewrite her death by the “death” no matter the cause to protect her
Otto, was such a great and complex character, who, despite himself, his glaring flaws, and total disdain for his own being, managed to hold true, despite the world working against him, to own vision, this is why I deeply respect him. Thankyou for putting it all in context, for those who are only capable of seeing the base attributes, completely bias in their own subconscious understanding. His parting song is still One of the top most emotional requiem, that never fails to both capture his inner struggle, and subsequent victory, I will always shed a tear when I hear it.. farewell you absolute inspiration of a madlad.. you will never be forgotten.. 💔❤️🩹❤️🔥💖💗💥🌈
Now I notice that Otto and Kallen is like Homura and Madoka-
Witch makes it easy to understand
Kind off-
Came to watch because of Caelus Apocalypse
Nicely done Sir, love your content! Loves the catch on Nietzche works! Deserves more subs and likes.
I hope Hoyoverse find something more interesting to replace Otto in the story onwards... They always delivered so i choose to believe!
Otto Apocalypse is by far my favorite character in honkai, truly a shame that HoYo will never make him (or any male characters) playable
Great video. COMPLETELY sum up my every thought for Otto.
I've just read the Seven Swords Visual Novel and I gotta say. When Li Sushang was about to be killed by Ma Feima. Otto stopped him and saved her even if he had no reasons to. I saw the potential of the good Otto there. He could've just ignored it and let Li Sushang died, but he went and saved her while wielding the Judgment of Shamash that costed almost his life(Which is ridiculous since Otto was so obsessed in bringing Kallen to life. He wasn't thinking right when he went 1 on 1 with Ma Feima which was the total opposite of the usual cold Otto that would use anyone to achieve his goals)
At first, he didn't care about Li Sushang which was observed by Ma Feima that made him lose interest in fighting Otto calling him as someone that didn't care even if the world ended, but he interfered when she was about to be killed. It reminded of the final scene when Otto fought with the Imaginary Tree. (T-T) It kinda hurts when I read Li Sushang describing Otto as just an ordinary human when he was asleep from his heavy injuries at the end of the fight. I hated him for what he did to Himeko. But, I pity him. If Kallen hadn't died maybe Otto wouldn't had been the main antagonist of the story.
Where can I read it? I’ve tried to find it but haven’t been able to.
Grea video, couldnt have said it better myself
In my mind the houkai gakuen ending where otto and kallen love together happily is my head canon and no one can prove me otherwise
I like how you explain Nietzsche there.
I, caelus understand
Thus Caelus Apocalypse
4 phase of Apocalypse:
Hate Otto
Understand Otto
Become Otto
Surpass Otto
A devil that never dies. And known as the worst human that ever existed in the entire history of Honkai. But I cannot deny that he had the only best moment of his life: Kallen.
Otto is an amazing man
Void Archive has big shoes to fill.
I always wondered as a German,hey there were so many German words,or references in this game,thankyou
Amazing Explanation as always 👍
The video explaining and undestanding the Otto's Story that I needed! 🙂❤️
Otto and kallen will be a nice a couple because kallen light up the path for Otto
He may threatened some people in a strategy to empower themselves for his redemption...but that's never enough forgive when he kills :
- Cecilia, Kiana's mom
- Hua
- Himeko
And more...
AND IRONICALLY, he release a honkai beast in attemp to save Kallen, but it's going to killed her instead !!
and he hated himself for that
I fucking love him favorite character
I want to say/believe that, at least, he sees theresa, as a person/someone to love first, a pawn of his plans second. From all event potrayal i am aware, otto functions as theresa's parental figure. To pick him as the parental figure consistently means that that part of him is genuine.
And his final message to theresa at the end, thats a geniune farewell as a guardian figure. So at the very least, even if he can use her as seen in his dialoge during the plan to awaken Sirin, at the end, he does sees theresa as family
Otto Apocalypse 😔he might have done bad things but damn was he compelling
After Penacony part 1, Otto was right
I’m thinking of writing a story like Honkai Impact… just need my friend to be free enough to work out the details. I’m too good at small-scale stuff but end up forgetting the larger context when writing a lot.
Otto is definitely a unique character that comes around only once or twice a decade.
Definitely husbando material
02:36 if only more people understood that
Dude I would be willing to be fool like him to save Kallen.
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My question is, werent there already timelines where Kallen survives as seen in the Captainverse?
Yes, you are right. There are quite a few versions of Kallen in the Captainvers that are alive. There is one in the Sanka Saga story for Yae Kasumi, but she dies in the end. Otto could have very easily find a Kallen from another bubble universe that was alive. The thing is, he wanted to revive the same Kallen he knew 500 years ago. Simply finding a Kallen in the multiverse that is alive is not what he wanted. He wanted the same soul, and the same person he knew back then to be brought back. For that to happen, this was the only way. He created an alternate timeline from his original universe 500 years ago, and made a new branch sprout out in the exact moment Kallen dies, making sure that he saved the same person he knew back then, and not some multiverse alternate version of her.
@@HomuLabs your explanation is correct and amazing
Otto Apocalypse fought for all he thought was beautiful in the world, which was Kallen Kasalana. Without Otto, Kiana (Tuna) would not have existed and would not have been able to break the Herscher Mold to be able to save humanity.
great vid !! deserves more recognition in the community
The only villian that i think is on Otto's level would be Emet-Selch from FFXIV
The most selfish man in all of fiction, dare I say, the entire world.
This is a Great Video, Excellent Work .
You know I don't think kania and the gang will appreciate this if they saw this video I think it piss them off that there growth was plan by him and they still in his palm even after his death? yeah definitely be piss off
This is why I always said to Genshin fans WHY they shouldn't ask game dev for a wash out friendly villain who become an ally... Sorry doc... They are NOT an expect in friendship villain.
CHECK Otto than you will understand why Hoyoverse should never stop making evil villain.
Pls make a video on captain verse
I saw some people talking about it on the honkai official discord but I still have no clue what it is
Otto are type of person who we all see as an insane villain but in the end we will agree with him one day once we on his position
bro your video expresses my heart
Most of the things said aligned with my ideas about him and the other things only build up to that. Otto is great character, best character in honkai in my opinion and all that build up only shows it. Not many villains, or anagonists I should say, acomplished their goals, and even less did so with such a success as did Otto. He didn't throw the world away because of his despair but did the opposite and took its fate in his hands. The result was great with the growth of Kiana, Dudu, Bronya, Seele, Theresa and much more to be there after he disappear and take the world in their hands and continue building it from there to new hights. The means weren't morally acceptable, no matter how you look at it, but in a war there are always sacrifices and you can't run away from that fact.
PS: Sorry but my grammar isn't the best.
To be honest humanity may not have lasted as long as it did if not for otto or at least there would have been no one to oppose project stigma
Wow you are Romanian! I only realised from the comments screenshots, couldn’t tell by your accent!