KRC Mathwaves is on Black Friday special starting at just $10: www.wavetables.lol/l/wavetables/revblack (currently contains about 13,000 wavetables compatible with multi/poly, with many more to come!)
Happy to see someone mention it. I love synthwave the spectrum bands like fantom87 or vhs dreams all the way to rockin stuff like magic swords. Other than the Miami overdrive setting shown briefly in other videos I hadn’t sent tubers specifically focus on the synthwave possibilities of this, but I clearly keep hearing them in parts of latches and playing. I just got mine today so I haven’t busted it out yet but I’m most excited about even just doing layer switching you could make a performance that’s basically different parts of a song a one turn them on off bass drums melody or intro verse chorus etc for live play. Magic sword for example if I wanted to play tunes like that I would need to buy mutiple expensive synths. I feel like this little unit and a looper even will be able to really do a lot without haveing to spend 45 minutes pulling out all my other gear super stoked to starting experimenting with it. Absolutely wish it game in a nice outrun sun vector landscape purple pink qnd blue paint scheme lol but it still looks pretty sweet
It woulld be cool if it allowed to load wavetables as waveshaper models because shaper model is just a function of a single argument and then you could modulate the position in wavetable as shaper model basically changing the shaper model over time.
This is an awesome synth. Will be my next purchase. Just wish there was an SE / SE Platinum version already released. Will probably pair it with a wider keyb with PolyAT (e.g. Keystage 61)
I am finally seeing those differences between Multi/Poly and Modwave. Thanks. Oversampling and Audio Rate Filter FM are ones I've missed, just comparing the 2 Owners' Manuals. You explained round robining very well too. Will wait 6 months or whatever for the module version of Multi/Poly.
@bilonggrisimmeri glad you found that helpful and thanks for watching! With respect to the "digital"/wavetable oscillator, in multi/poly, it has all of the same capabilities as the modwave wavetable oscillator, except for a couple of morph modes (I think it lacks "sync" and "windowed sync" morphs), and it doesn't have the Wavetable A/B mode (where you can blend between two different wavetables in a phase-synced way). But you gain the waveshaper oscillator, which actually has like 3 different parameters for changing the waveform created by the shaper and this is a very similar type of effect to A/B blend. All oscillators, of all types, are free-running in multi/poly, so that's different as well. As a result, that means there is no specific phase control/modulation destination (as we have in modwave). Also, the new "Drift" parameter and related amounts in multi/poly replace the "pitch random" parameter (a handy, but less sophisticated way to simulate drift in modwave or wavestate). If you're interested in stuff like this, you might like this previous video where I talked about techniques for making "analog" sounding patches in modwave at th-cam.com/video/mXayzXmD9jk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6qyiKgrypfyDEIKt&t=348.
@@SouthShoreSonics thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it! Sorry I forgot to do something with Morlet wavelets, though! D’oh! I’ll do it in future. I think you’re gonna love the shaper oscillator. It’s quite fascinating.
@@kcrosley And having four layers with two filters each that can be set to bandpass and tunable to formant frequencies I bet you can do some Moog Spectravox effects. That is one thing I want to play with!
I'm confused. Did I hear you say that each layer can hold 4 oscillators, per layer!? I see 4 layers in the editor. Would that mean we can thicken this beast with 16 oscillators with a single keystroke!? Or am I dreaming. I can throw 6 at a time on the Opsix! But 16 * faints * I'm currently browsing the manual to see if I'm just dreaming. Thank you, Keith! Really appreciate your work! ...Edit: Not confused ...I said that early on in the vid. Can't wait to play with this, it's gonna be fun!!
Hey there, @audioartisan. Yes, you understand that correctly. A multi/poly performance is 4 layers (each layer a "Program"). Each Program layer voice architecture consists of 4 oscillators. So, yes, you could have 16 oscillators sounding at once. Further, the unison mode is per Program (layer), so you could have voice duplication as well (meaning, even more oscillators sounding) on a single key. I haven't stress tested to see how ridiculous you can get and still have any reasonable polyphony, but many of the fat patches I'm playing here are sounding 20 voices without voice stealing. Thanks also for the kind comments and thanks for watching! 🎹
I feel like you could use that strum trick to very closely emulate the tones in beink of time and maloria cathedral among other iconic tracks from misudas excellent chrono trigger ost
@@VitaEx I hear what you mean there. Yeah, there’s a lot of “retriggery” stuff in video game/chiptune music. Old guy aside: I have a fondness for complex/multistage envelopes and the tricks one can do with them as my first synth was the Casio CZ-101, which has 8-stage envelopes. Aside 2: you can do strum/flam effects in Wavestate because you can have a silent step(s) in the wavesequence. But there’s no non-convoluted/inefficient way to do that in modwave (aside from either some tricky mod processor stuff or running a layer through a fully wet delay effect, which just isn’t the same thing). Thanks for being such a careful listener!
@@VitaEx thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I’m thinking about that, or simply adding them to Mathwaves. Yeah, the modulation in that patch is a bit of a “Vangelis” move. Though, in my head, I was thinking “Arrakis… Dune… Desert Planet” but failed to make the joke while I was recording. The waveshaper oscillator is exceedingly interesting and responds in very interesting ways to modulation. It’s a bit like Wavetable A/B mode on modwave in that you can move the waveform in multiple dimensions that aren’t immediately obvious.
Hey, @HarmonicSonics, thanks for watching! I'll definitely be doing more with multi/poly in the future, but I got a bit into the waveshaper oscillator and audio-rate filter modulation together at 0:48:21. And I very briefly touched on cross-mod at 1:08:11 .
@neuronist, thanks for watching! While I didn't actually comment on this in the video, I think it's really funny that they didn't include "wave" in the name of this synth. Missed marketing opportunity to give this thing a hot pink livery and a trendy name. 😉
Hey, thanks for watching @0richbike. I don't know that it's actually possible or easy to import third-party wavetables like mine to Blofeld. Based on this article everyone seems to point to -- markmoshermusic.com/2015/07/29/intro-to-loading-custom-waldorf-blofeld-wavetables/ -- it seems super cumbersome. I don't personally own a Blofeld, but perhaps another wavetable fan will chime in here.
@digitaldiezel5870, thanks for watching and for the kind comment (I agree, it's a super demo 😉)! But what's wrong with mentioning the 1980s? It's the golden era of synth-pop, and multi/poly is chock full of emulations of classic 70s and 80s synth patches. (I didn't demo them, but there's a lovely homage to the bass from "Don't You Want Me", in addition to the "Sweet Dreams" type patches... also there's a couple of gems from I Speak Machine's Tara Busch for "Cars" and... of all things... the noise hit from "Betty Davis Eyes"). It just gives off those vibes! Also, I'm very GenX and cut my teeth on synthesis in the 80s, so don't make me get all Espen Kraft on you. 🤣 Don't forget to like and subscribe for moar talky synthesizer content!
KRC Mathwaves is on Black Friday special starting at just $10: www.wavetables.lol/l/wavetables/revblack (currently contains about 13,000 wavetables compatible with multi/poly, with many more to come!)
Always good to see a video from our old pal Keith. It makes for a better day. Thanks for the review! I'm looking forward to picking one up.
I'm glad I could improve someone's day! Thanks for watching!
@@kcrosleyYOU'RE A SCATTER BRAIN !!!
Happy to see someone mention it. I love synthwave the spectrum bands like fantom87 or vhs dreams all the way to rockin stuff like magic swords. Other than the Miami overdrive setting shown briefly in other videos I hadn’t sent tubers specifically focus on the synthwave possibilities of this, but I clearly keep hearing them in parts of latches and playing. I just got mine today so I haven’t busted it out yet but I’m most excited about even just doing layer switching you could make a performance that’s basically different parts of a song a one turn them on off bass drums melody or intro verse chorus etc for live play. Magic sword for example if I wanted to play tunes like that I would need to buy mutiple expensive synths. I feel like this little unit and a looper even will be able to really do a lot without haveing to spend 45 minutes pulling out all my other gear super stoked to starting experimenting with it.
Absolutely wish it game in a nice outrun sun vector landscape purple pink qnd blue paint scheme lol but it still looks pretty sweet
It woulld be cool if it allowed to load wavetables as waveshaper models because shaper model is just a function of a single argument and then you could modulate the position in wavetable as shaper model basically changing the shaper model over time.
@@AntonMochalin yeah… I’ll be taking a look at the latest Kilohearts stuff too, soon…
This is an awesome synth. Will be my next purchase. Just wish there was an SE / SE Platinum version already released. Will probably pair it with a wider keyb with PolyAT (e.g. Keystage 61)
Yeah, an instrument with this much oscillator morphing capability is screaming to be controlled with polyphonic aftertouch! Thanks for watching!
I am finally seeing those differences between Multi/Poly and Modwave. Thanks. Oversampling and Audio Rate Filter FM are ones I've missed, just comparing the 2 Owners' Manuals. You explained round robining very well too. Will wait 6 months or whatever for the module version of Multi/Poly.
@bilonggrisimmeri glad you found that helpful and thanks for watching! With respect to the "digital"/wavetable oscillator, in multi/poly, it has all of the same capabilities as the modwave wavetable oscillator, except for a couple of morph modes (I think it lacks "sync" and "windowed sync" morphs), and it doesn't have the Wavetable A/B mode (where you can blend between two different wavetables in a phase-synced way). But you gain the waveshaper oscillator, which actually has like 3 different parameters for changing the waveform created by the shaper and this is a very similar type of effect to A/B blend. All oscillators, of all types, are free-running in multi/poly, so that's different as well. As a result, that means there is no specific phase control/modulation destination (as we have in modwave).
Also, the new "Drift" parameter and related amounts in multi/poly replace the "pitch random" parameter (a handy, but less sophisticated way to simulate drift in modwave or wavestate). If you're interested in stuff like this, you might like this previous video where I talked about techniques for making "analog" sounding patches in modwave at th-cam.com/video/mXayzXmD9jk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6qyiKgrypfyDEIKt&t=348.
Wow! Impressive. Thanks
Many great ideas!
This let's me know I made a wise choice on preordering my mPoly!
Bravo
@@SouthShoreSonics thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it! Sorry I forgot to do something with Morlet wavelets, though! D’oh! I’ll do it in future. I think you’re gonna love the shaper oscillator. It’s quite fascinating.
@@kcrosley And having four layers with two filters each that can be set to bandpass and tunable to formant frequencies I bet you can do some Moog Spectravox effects. That is one thing I want to play with!
@SouthShoreSonics that’s a cool idea!
I'm confused. Did I hear you say that each layer can hold 4 oscillators, per layer!? I see 4 layers in the editor. Would that mean we can thicken this beast with 16 oscillators with a single keystroke!? Or am I dreaming. I can throw 6 at a time on the Opsix! But 16 * faints * I'm currently browsing the manual to see if I'm just dreaming. Thank you, Keith! Really appreciate your work! ...Edit: Not confused ...I said that early on in the vid. Can't wait to play with this, it's gonna be fun!!
Hey there, @audioartisan. Yes, you understand that correctly. A multi/poly performance is 4 layers (each layer a "Program"). Each Program layer voice architecture consists of 4 oscillators. So, yes, you could have 16 oscillators sounding at once. Further, the unison mode is per Program (layer), so you could have voice duplication as well (meaning, even more oscillators sounding) on a single key. I haven't stress tested to see how ridiculous you can get and still have any reasonable polyphony, but many of the fat patches I'm playing here are sounding 20 voices without voice stealing. Thanks also for the kind comments and thanks for watching! 🎹
I feel like you could use that strum trick to very closely emulate the tones in beink of time and maloria cathedral among other iconic tracks from misudas excellent chrono trigger ost
@@VitaEx I hear what you mean there. Yeah, there’s a lot of “retriggery” stuff in video game/chiptune music. Old guy aside: I have a fondness for complex/multistage envelopes and the tricks one can do with them as my first synth was the Casio CZ-101, which has 8-stage envelopes. Aside 2: you can do strum/flam effects in Wavestate because you can have a silent step(s) in the wavesequence. But there’s no non-convoluted/inefficient way to do that in modwave (aside from either some tricky mod processor stuff or running a layer through a fully wet delay effect, which just isn’t the same thing). Thanks for being such a careful listener!
Will you be coming out with a performance bank for this ? I love that weirdshaper sound very blade runner 48:00
@@VitaEx thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I’m thinking about that, or simply adding them to Mathwaves. Yeah, the modulation in that patch is a bit of a “Vangelis” move. Though, in my head, I was thinking “Arrakis… Dune… Desert Planet” but failed to make the joke while I was recording. The waveshaper oscillator is exceedingly interesting and responds in very interesting ways to modulation. It’s a bit like Wavetable A/B mode on modwave in that you can move the waveform in multiple dimensions that aren’t immediately obvious.
@ I dig it vibes (spice) must flow
Oh nice you got one. Curious what the sounds are like. Especially the wave shapers , x mod and audio rate filter lfos
Hey, @HarmonicSonics, thanks for watching! I'll definitely be doing more with multi/poly in the future, but I got a bit into the waveshaper oscillator and audio-rate filter modulation together at 0:48:21. And I very briefly touched on cross-mod at 1:08:11 .
maybe rebrand as "multi/wave"?
@neuronist, thanks for watching! While I didn't actually comment on this in the video, I think it's really funny that they didn't include "wave" in the name of this synth. Missed marketing opportunity to give this thing a hot pink livery and a trendy name. 😉
Hi, how easy is it to import your tables into a Bofeld? Cheers Rich
Blofeld only uses sysex midi for wavetables.
Hey, thanks for watching @0richbike. I don't know that it's actually possible or easy to import third-party wavetables like mine to Blofeld. Based on this article everyone seems to point to -- markmoshermusic.com/2015/07/29/intro-to-loading-custom-waldorf-blofeld-wavetables/ -- it seems super cumbersome. I don't personally own a Blofeld, but perhaps another wavetable fan will chime in here.
Bruh 😎… !!!
…don’t say 80’s 😅! This post is selling like 300% more of these as he’s going through it (super demo)…and he decides to utter “80’s”😅😅😅
@digitaldiezel5870, thanks for watching and for the kind comment (I agree, it's a super demo 😉)! But what's wrong with mentioning the 1980s? It's the golden era of synth-pop, and multi/poly is chock full of emulations of classic 70s and 80s synth patches. (I didn't demo them, but there's a lovely homage to the bass from "Don't You Want Me", in addition to the "Sweet Dreams" type patches... also there's a couple of gems from I Speak Machine's Tara Busch for "Cars" and... of all things... the noise hit from "Betty Davis Eyes"). It just gives off those vibes! Also, I'm very GenX and cut my teeth on synthesis in the 80s, so don't make me get all Espen Kraft on you. 🤣 Don't forget to like and subscribe for moar talky synthesizer content!
I miss the 80's. I miss the 70's even more...
Ok but you focalize too much on bells sounds...why??? It seems a DX7 review...why?
Umm... OK. Thanks for watching, I guess.
@@kcrosleythanks for “focalizing.” 😂
Just the why not? Why watch if unliked.