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Ive been doing electric work for over 8 years now, me and everyone i know call the self drilling screws “self tappers” and self tappi g screw “a regular sheet metal screw” 😂
That helps a lot because you are very precise and clear. I need to attach paneling to the ribs in my van so I will be using self-drilling truss screws because the ribs are thick metal. Thanks.
I need to attach wood studs in my van, too, so I can secure lightweight furniture to the walls. I'm trying to learn which screws are the right ones to use. Which ones did you use and how did it go?
Hi, we need to hang a tarp over the inside of our screens on our back porch. When it rains the rain comes in through the screens and floods the back porch. With hurricane season we want to be able to put it up before a storm if need be. What do you recommend? It is aluminum. We are thinking about using the self drilling ones but I would hate to make holes in the porch. We tried command hooks and they just fell dow. Thanks so much!
That's not a self-tapping screw. Self tapping screws have a feature that cuts it's own threads. That screw you are calling a self tapping screw is not a self tapping screw. Self tapping screws have a knife edge groove cut up through the starting threads that actually cut the threads as it's driven onto the steel.
Thanks for such a clear and definitive video on the difference .. just today I was at Lowe's and had 3 employees tell me "there is absolutely no difference"....I knew there was! I am trying to drill into a micro skiff made out of high density polyethylene - its called a solo skiff - to add accessories to the hull. which type would you recommend for something like this?
We’re converting an outside deck into an inside addition to our house. Angle iron was used to make a roof and sides, along with adding windows, doors, etc. After having the insulation added, we’d like to put up cedar or pine board walls (sounds better than I can describe). My question to you is: do I use self-drilling screws to attach 2x4’s (or maybe 1x4’s) for the interior framing in the room or do I pre-drill holes in the wood and angle iron and use self-tapping screws? I saw where you told someone that the self tapping screws would chew up the wood. Really need some good advice! I am not a tradesperson, but trying to do it ourselves. I know it may not come out looking like it’s top-notch, but I’d like to give it a shot and save a “little” money, if and where possible. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me.
@tinksfawn08 Short answer: self drilling. Long answer: Of the two types of screws, self-drilling usually works best for thicker metal, which the angle iron likely is. I would recommend pre-drilling through the wood using a drill bit a few sizes smaller than your screws.
Do I have to start with a small hole to use the self-tapping? I've got a piece of sheet metal that's filling a gap on the back of a metal vent hood over my stove and there are no holes on the hood. There are holes on the filler piece, but is the self-tapping screw the right one to use for this job, please?
Thank you for this information. I am working on converting a cargo van into a camper for a summer road trips. I have been struggling to decide whether or not I should use self tapping or self drilling screws to attach the wood planks to the vehicle frame for the foundation. Do you think self drilling screws would be best to attach the wood planks into the steel vehicle frames?
my favourite tool is an angle grinder and using it way beyond its intended purpose then wondering why the things i build look like garbage i have rescued them from the tip
Would you use the self tapping or self drilling to secure a downspout to a gutter that has separated? There is no hole in either piece of the aluminum?
My mind is spinning 😵💫 I’m a girl. Every video and info on Home Depot has the “ self tapping” looking like what you’re calling self drilling. I was trying to find out how to use before purchasing.😵💫
Do you know anything about max thickness of the self-tapping screws? I have seen Self-drilling screws (DIN 7504) rated for at maximum thickness of 3 mm, but i have only seen the specification "thin sheetmetal" for Self-tapping (DIN7976). I am going to using through a 1.5mm steel plate and do not know if threads of my DIN7976 get crushed due to them being stainless steel or i should use DIN7504, which i can not find in stainless sheel (unless i buy a pack of 200).
Hey Zach, is a hammer drill necessary when using a self-drilling screw into metal? (my application is attaching vinyl gate hardware to the metal framed vinyl gate) Or is it simple a little pressure at first but set my drill to just drill only?
Great vid thanks :) About to be fitting a new Ventian blind to a window recess which I know has a metal lintel above. Wondering whether the self drilling screws might be the way forward?
You can use a self-driller to secure wood to metal but not metal to wood. The drill tip on the end bores too big of a hole for the threads to have anything to grip to. Also, the threads are too fine to work well in wood.
T-Posts are indeed made of a hard steel. I don't know of a self-drilling screw that would claim to go through. It'd be worth a try, but not likely. The U-Posts that are made of a stamped mild steel should take a self-drilling screw without issue.
Zach. what type of screw to use for holding fly screen onto aluminium window frame? and do i need to use impact drill ( or normal drill) with it please?
A small self-drilling screw would work well going into an aluminum window frame. If you’re securing mesh screen though, it should really be sandwiched between two pieces of metal. Just using screws, even with washers, is very likely to twist and distort the screen. I’d use another thin piece of aluminum and screw through all three layers. Aluminum is really easy to strip out, so use a small cordless drill with the clutch set to a very light setting.
@@ZachFields Thanks . What about using those recommend screen plastic clip to hold the fly-screen mesh, by fixing the clip onto the window frame? ( I do have problem that the self drilling screw can drill through the window frame, but the crew does not stay firm and hold the clip but keep dropping out . )
@@hanhhowe9857 measure the depth and then mark it on the drill bit to about a 1/2 Centrimetre before it goes straight through and then wrap some masking take around the drill bit or for whatever screw you are using so it stops right where it's mark to stop it from going all the way through. Hope that helps, and sori for long comment
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Would self tapping screws hold up a bumper?
Finally! Someone who can explain things clearly and concisely! Thank you!
Ive been doing electric work for over 8 years now, me and everyone i know call the self drilling screws “self tappers” and self tappi g screw “a regular sheet metal screw” 😂
Yep most people do, but they are very wrong
That helps a lot because you are very precise and clear. I need to attach paneling to the ribs in my van so I will be using self-drilling truss screws because the ribs are thick metal. Thanks.
I need to attach wood studs in my van, too, so I can secure lightweight furniture to the walls. I'm trying to learn which screws are the right ones to use. Which ones did you use and how did it go?
If you have the access you might consider a nut and bolt.
would have been nice to show us them being installed.
Right. I'm looking for a video showing this part now.
Nice. Good job Zach!
There is a self-tapping machine screw also which taps threads into thicker metal just like a regular tap would.
Self tapping for aluminum and wood, self drilling for metal. Self tapping is better cuz it compresses material rather than removing it
Very clear and useful explanation !
I'm just trying to learn. Thank you!
PL INFM DRILL BIT TO BE USED FOR FIXING SHEET METAL SCREW FOR
NO 2,3,4,5,6,8,10,12 AND 14
very clear and simple explanation. best info! thanks
Are self drilling screws good on wood?
Good video
Hi Alberto! Self-drilling screws are not good for wood. They tend to chew up the wood and then the shallow threads don’t have much to bite into.
Using the self drilling screws to repair in the inside of my grill. Thanks for the info.
@Mister J Great! Glad you found a use for them!
Just the video i was after. Thanks mate👍
Hi, we need to hang a tarp over the inside of our screens on our back porch. When it rains the rain comes in through the screens and floods the back porch. With hurricane season we want to be able to put it up before a storm if need be. What do you recommend? It is aluminum. We are thinking about using the self drilling ones but I would hate to make holes in the porch. We tried command hooks and they just fell dow. Thanks so much!
Very good concise video thanks
Thanks, Richard 🙂
That's not a self-tapping screw. Self tapping screws have a feature that cuts it's own threads. That screw you are calling a self tapping screw is not a self tapping screw. Self tapping screws have a knife edge groove cut up through the starting threads that actually cut the threads as it's driven onto the steel.
Can we remove these screws normally like other screws without damaging the pipe for refitting.
Thanks for such a clear and definitive video on the difference .. just today I was at Lowe's and had 3 employees tell me "there is absolutely no difference"....I knew there was!
I am trying to drill into a micro skiff made out of high density polyethylene - its called a solo skiff - to add accessories to the hull. which type would you recommend for something like this?
Glad I could help!
For that type of material for a skiff, which screw would you recommend?
@@BR-uu6jx hahahaha, he didn’t know!
Do you think a self drilling screws would work on a shipping container? The metal is pretty thick
Great explanation. Thank you!
Thanks!
We’re converting an outside deck into an inside addition to our house. Angle iron was used to make a roof and sides, along with adding windows, doors, etc. After having the insulation added, we’d like to put up cedar or pine board walls (sounds better than I can describe). My question to you is: do I use self-drilling screws to attach 2x4’s (or maybe 1x4’s) for the interior framing in the room or do I pre-drill holes in the wood and angle iron and use self-tapping screws? I saw where you told someone that the self tapping screws would chew up the wood. Really need some good advice! I am not a tradesperson, but trying to do it ourselves. I know it may not come out looking like it’s top-notch, but I’d like to give it a shot and save a “little” money, if and where possible. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me.
@tinksfawn08
Short answer: self drilling.
Long answer: Of the two types of screws, self-drilling usually works best for thicker metal, which the angle iron likely is. I would recommend pre-drilling through the wood using a drill bit a few sizes smaller than your screws.
Thank you so much for the expert advice!
Hey Zach,
I am newbie, can we use these screws on wood/furnitures? Are they strong enough?
Appreciate your response.
I've use them on wood
Which one would be better for keeping the rings on a whiskey barrel in place?
Thanks for the info!
Do I have to start with a small hole to use the self-tapping? I've got a piece of sheet metal that's filling a gap on the back of a metal vent hood over my stove and there are no holes on the hood. There are holes on the filler piece, but is the self-tapping screw the right one to use for this job, please?
Thanks for that, answered my question 😊
Thank you for this information. I am working on converting a cargo van into a camper for a summer road trips. I have been struggling to decide whether or not I should use self tapping or self drilling screws to attach the wood planks to the vehicle frame for the foundation. Do you think self drilling screws would be best to attach the wood planks into the steel vehicle frames?
Yep, self drilling should work just fine.
my favourite tool is an angle grinder and using it way beyond its intended purpose then wondering why the things i build look like garbage i have rescued them from the tip
Would you suggest self tapping or self drilling for metal frame fence and wood ?
Great advice. 💓👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Fine job.
What do you prefer for installing a boat ladder to an aluminum boat?? I can’t get to the back of the boat to attach lock nuts. Thanks
very helpful
Would you use the self tapping or self drilling to secure a downspout to a gutter that has separated? There is no hole in either piece of the aluminum?
Spouting screws are usually self tapping, though either would work on something that thin.
Do you think a few self tapping screws would hold up the side of a bumper?
Yes
Both are self-tapping, but only one is self drilling.
My mind is spinning 😵💫 I’m a girl. Every video and info on Home Depot has the “ self tapping” looking like what you’re calling self drilling. I was trying to find out how to use before purchasing.😵💫
Can use self drilling screw for fastned hailong battery on bicycle frame
Do you know anything about max thickness of the self-tapping screws?
I have seen Self-drilling screws (DIN 7504) rated for at maximum thickness of 3 mm, but i have only seen the specification "thin sheetmetal" for Self-tapping (DIN7976).
I am going to using through a 1.5mm steel plate and do not know if threads of my DIN7976 get crushed due to them being stainless steel or i should use DIN7504, which i can not find in stainless sheel (unless i buy a pack of 200).
So self taping Screws will not back out over time? My application is in a small space where I cannot use a nut
I've never had a problem with them either type backing out.
Hey Zach, is a hammer drill necessary when using a self-drilling screw into metal? (my application is attaching vinyl gate hardware to the metal framed vinyl gate)
Or is it simple a little pressure at first but set my drill to just drill only?
Hammer drill is only needed for masonry. A regular drill will work for your application.
Thanks and subscribed.
Thanks and welcome
Great vid thanks :) About to be fitting a new Ventian blind to a window recess which I know has a metal lintel above. Wondering whether the self drilling screws might be the way forward?
Did you ever figure this out? Exactly why I'm here. Trying to do the same
A self-drilling screw may work, though it would have to be a good size one as a metal lentil supporting masonry is pretty thick.
Can i use the self drilling on sheet metal and wood post for a fence??
You can use a self-driller to secure wood to metal but not metal to wood. The drill tip on the end bores too big of a hole for the threads to have anything to grip to. Also, the threads are too fine to work well in wood.
I still dont get it. Do you need an actual driller or any sort of machine for the self tapping screws?
Good question, Aliloco. Self-drilling screws do not need a hole to start. Self-tapping screws do need a hole to start. Does that make sense?
@@ZachFields Do we need to use a machine for the self tapping screws though?
You still need a regular drill to drive them in, but no other special tools.
Zach Fields would an impact driver be able to drive these?
anything that can self drill into 1/4 hard steel like a T-Post?
T-Posts are indeed made of a hard steel. I don't know of a self-drilling screw that would claim to go through. It'd be worth a try, but not likely. The U-Posts that are made of a stamped mild steel should take a self-drilling screw without issue.
Awesome
can a self drilling crew go threw wood into the metal to attach them together???
Usually in that situation I like to pre-drill the wood just a little smaller than the shank of the screw. It makes for a cleaner connection.
I’m drilling through a Satellite dish
Practice it and show us!
Zach. what type of screw to use for holding fly screen onto aluminium window frame? and do i need to use impact drill ( or normal drill) with it please?
A small self-drilling screw would work well going into an aluminum window frame. If you’re securing mesh screen though, it should really be sandwiched between two pieces of metal. Just using screws, even with washers, is very likely to twist and distort the screen. I’d use another thin piece of aluminum and screw through all three layers. Aluminum is really easy to strip out, so use a small cordless drill with the clutch set to a very light setting.
@@ZachFields Thanks . What about using those recommend screen plastic clip to hold the fly-screen mesh, by fixing the clip onto the window frame? ( I do have problem that the self drilling screw can drill through the window frame, but the crew does not stay firm and hold the clip but keep dropping out . )
Unfortunately, I don’t have any experience with the type of fastener that you mentioned. 🙁
@@ZachFields thank you just the same .
@@hanhhowe9857 measure the depth and then mark it on the drill bit to about a 1/2 Centrimetre before it goes straight through and then wrap some masking take around the drill bit or for whatever screw you are using so it stops right where it's mark to stop it from going all the way through. Hope that helps, and sori for long comment
hey my eyes are down here man stop looking at my forehead
you did not show the head of screw. very bad presentation
0:48 you’re welcome
So a self drilling screw for drywall behind metal studs for multi dwelling condos?