ESO - The Problem With Year-Long Adventures
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Hey gang, with High Isle's final DLC on the horizon I wanted to share some thoughts with you on the current state of ESO's year-long adventure concept and where I think it's currently failing and succeeding. Let me know your thoughts below!
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Okay fr I swear I didn't know Necrom would be announced just five months after I made this video, I'm just a prophet of Azura.
I would imagine that they've been planning these a few years out in advance, so it's understandable that it's a formula that they've stuck to for a while. I hope that High Isle was the last "Year-Long" that they had in the tank, I really want something Orsinium again.
Very good point, and yeah Orsinium was great, it gave story time to a race that doesn't get a lot and focused a lot on what it's like to be an orc and I love stuff like that
Nice video. I gotta say, I'm absolutely agreeing with. World Ending Threats are nice and all, but doing it over and over (like WoW) is just a bad idea. It not only detracts from the epicness of those foes, when they are just the fifteenth villain to come along and almost do something terrible, before being stopped in the nick of time. Also, Slice of Life ist just nice. Seeing how the world of Tamriel truly is, without someone busting down the door, is something we don't really get much. Not in the mainline games, nor in ESO, so more story lines like Murkmire and Orsinium would be great.
While I would like to see maybe a year or so gap between "year long adventures", filled with "slice of life"-like content, I don't think it will happen any time soon.
Agreed, I'm not expecting anything to change but I sure would like it too. A mer can dream!
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I totally do think we'll get some sort of Eastern Morrowind expansion next year, considering next year is the 20th anniversary of the Bloodmoon DLC from Morrowind and the 10th anniversary of the Dragonborn DLC from Skyrim. I know these two use Solstheim but I ain't sure how ESO would add Solstheim considering Raven Rock isn't even built yet. Also, Lady Laurent talks about stuff going on in the Telvanni Peninsula at the end of the High Isle questline in the party room if you did her side quest. It would be nice to have a Telvanni-focused questline.
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You know I expected to disagree but you made some valid points and changed my mind also Necrom content would be great
Thanks for listening homie! Not complaining about the release schedule by any stretch of the imagination just hoping for a change in story telling, at least some mixing up.
As a fellow dunmer enjoyer I can agree we still need more dunmer content... so yeah would be nice if next year was the telvanni peninsula
I dont think it'll ever happen but I'm gonna continue to demand it 😂
It's so refreshing actually hearing a content creator give ESO the criticism it rightfully deserves instead of acting like it's the perfect game. Thank you for that.
Thank you for watching! I'm working to be better at being constructive with criticism and try and praise the things that work but I love the game and always want things to be the best they can be which sometimes means pointing out it's faults.
@@OldSaltySean1 my main criticism is that the player base can be toxic at times. And since ESO can't really control that, and have ALL solo content at a ridiculously easy level, adding some attainable solo option to the dungeon and trial stuff wouldn't be bad. It also kills the rpg factor. Especially when you don't have a circle of friends to run with so rely on strangers in guilds or randoms. You don't even get to enjoy the quests. I stopped playing recently, because I felt I was wasting my days off waiting to play a game instead of actually playing one. So, for me, it's definitely the solo aspect that needs improving.
@@over9000optimally 100% in agreement on all points
I would have to agree year-long adventures were a breathing fresh air when they started. It was an exciting and new experience but like anything in life it can be overdone, which I too feel it has been.
Small dlc zones like Murkmire made me skeptical if they would be worth playing when they came out but areas like that have so much going on in them behind the scenes and in the main story that it can feel as grand as the content that takes all year long to wrap up.
This may be just me but there are times we're I get a little overwhelmed with content especially when I feel there is not enough time to actually enjoy the story and the zones especially with the steady stream of events and other things going on throughout the year.
And that bit about the dungeons is true they do seem to be doing thier own thing while trying to be story themed 😂 Great video!
Thanks as always homie, and yeah it's a pretty rapid barrage of content and if you're trying to do stuff besides ESO it can feel like overload if you want to just appreciate the zones and the small touches the team puts in them!
I agree that changing things up would be nice. I was glad this year long adventure wasn't an end of the world adventure; seems like it would have been a great opportunity to separate the DLCs into different stories.
@@SwingDancer61 you know that would make a great breaking point for a small cluster of zone dlcs to branch from. If they were to do that then they could add quality content to the game while being able to dedicate resources to work in a lot of the different aspects of the game. 😄
I like the regularity of content drops, but a lot of good points of mixing up the story format a bit.
Definitely not complaining about the frequency of content, just the story beats 🙏
Its crazy how when I first started playing and the only dlc was Imperial city and Orsinium, I'd look at the map and wish I could go to so many places like summerset and vvardenfell. The most exciting part of eso is seeing what area they decide to implement next, and as annoying as the year-long adventures have become I dont mind them too much as long as they keep making content. Also still hoping for blacklight. or necrom.
I still absolutely love seeing the world, and I cant wait to find out where we're going for Q4 this Friday! I just wish they mixed up the stories in the zones a bit more 😅
I totally agree. I've always felt that the Chapters letting the main villain skulk away has detracted from their story - it makes the Q4 DLC so overshadowed by the feeling of "I've just got to get through this sub-plot so I can see what the finale is".
Side note, love your Starscream comparison lmao
Thank you for the video
Thank you as always for watching my dude 🙏
I might add to this by saying I'm kinda tiring of the quarterly release schedule. I've often wondered if they shouldn't just split the difference and instead of a content release every quarter what if they tried a release every 6 months, like imagine starting the year off with a decent sized story zone with dungeons and trials, and then again at the halfway point of the year. It would still be a faster release window than the 2 year cycle most other mmos are on. I'm not sure if the execution of this would actually work out but it's just a thought I've always had.
ignore everything else about this video, i wasn't aware at all of any of the lore around Necrom, now I wanna go to Necrom, ZOS GIVE US NECROM
THANK YOU, PLEASE ZOS
My biggest issue with the year long stories is how the chapter, which should be the highlight and peak of the year, feels more like a prologue and all the important and interesting story bits are in the Q4 DLC. Hell, we didn't even see the Dark Heart that the Greymoor year was named after until Markarth!
Yep, very good point, it's always frustrating feeling like it's set up for Q4.
I love the year long adventure but it must have a shelf life at some point. I definitely agree, more localised events in future expansions would be amazing!
For sure not hoping they stop doing them, just mix it up a bit! Thanks for watching!
I really enjoy finding and fighting the secret bosses in the latest dungeons, in the previous year it was annoying because you couldn't do it solo, also the amount of coordination if you weren't in discord was a challenge.
They're great! Definitely one of my favorite additions to the newer dungeons of recent years!
Word.
Indeed.
If there's one thing I got from this, it's that we need more Dark Elf stuff! GOD DAMMIT, ZOS, GIVE US SOMETHING WITH ALMALEXIA! I want to see her as fleshed out as they did Sotha Sil.
Also, more Khajiit stuff. More Dark Elf and Khajiit stuff. Fuck the other races.
I'll never say no to more dark elf stuff 👀
I have never done a quest apart from when you start, I guess with this new patch thats all I'll be doing. Any advice on what or where to start so that this whole things makes sense 😅
There's a timeline out there for going chronologically but honestly base game quests aren't worth the time outside of the main story quests. You'll miss out on a bit of dialogue with some recurring characters but its minimal. You really cant go wrong just picking a DLC you like aesthetically and starting there. If I had to pick a favorite I think for me its Blackwood/Deadlands.
I loved the Dark Heart of Skyrim year long story. Markarth's storyline, lore and villain were in my opinion some of the best in the series, but i have to agree with some of these comments. I want something like Orsinium again. One storyline in a large new location and that's it, on to something completely new afterwards.
Completely agree
Questing is very enjoyable but it's so easy that I crafted an intentionally super weak build in order for combat to feel more engaging. I at least need to not be able to do it with my eyes closed.
Definitely hoping for a veteran difficulty questing experience some day
Honestly, this formula made me stop the game on a regular basis. I haven't even bought High Isle yet because I knew it was gonna be a predictable copy paste unfortunately. But on the flip side you're right, the dungeons are amazing and the new zones look incredible. But paired with the recycled content every year and no new class or combat skill-line since Elsweyr....sadge
Yeah very predictable storyline, I ended up mentally checking out almost immediately going through it 😂
Still hoping for more weapon skill lines in the future (dual wield magic and 1handed weapon please ZOS)
@@OldSaltySean1 Spears please! Haven't seen them since Morrowind
@@assamite9833 YESSSSS IT KILLS ME THERES NO SPEARS IN THE MORROWIND EXPANSION
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usually by q4 I'm in full burned out on eso and that constant combat changes so I dont even finish the story until the next year. Sometimes by then I've completely forgotten whats going on so I find myself spamming that a button.
Yeah, the constant combat change issue is a whole different beast.
I totaly agree first few year i liked idea but now its getting to old it would be nice to see more different places murkmire and orsinium were amazing
Love those!
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I NEED it!
i agree with the loss of difficulty in later expansions. i would like to see a questmode+ , where you can make story quests with the difficulty of say 4 man dungeons solo. i play mainly storyline, rushing through raids dungeons or trials just kills ny immersion. to keep it interesting i mostly only use white or green items, but even that made me quit the game over and over again for some time. i would have liked to join the order of the hour instead of DB for examplem, or playing as a necro making bad decisions instead of "rubbing it in the face of every quest npc " that i am not that kind of necro.... and so on... but still the game really makes me reinstallling it time and time again cause good voiced quests and lore.
Yeah having a heroic quest difficulty would be a great touch, I want a real fight with Mehrunes Dagon not a two rotation chump.
There is never enough dark elf content.
THANK YOU SOMEBODY SPEAKING FACTS
This vid is 3 months old but I think next chapter is necrom pretty excited
I've been hearing a lot of chatter about that online and I'm ready to pop off if true
These super powerful threats are fun and all, but the biggest threat to the races of Tamriel has always been the races of Tamriel.
That tracks
I agree that these have become tediously formulaic. The whole thing feels back to front and is structured not to provide a great year long story, but to give ZOS something to pimp at the various game events that used to dominate pre-covid. Specifically so ZOS can make a big announcement in January for the Game Convention then. It would be far better if it started in Q3, with some kind of teasing stuff in the DLC dungeons released then. Then the smaller DLC zone would set the scene and could be way more diverse. Most importantly, it would mean that the story concluded with the chapter release, which would ensure they ended in a satifactory way, rather than feeling incomplete.
Not a bad idea!
A million percent agree. They need to end this model. The chapters don’t feel fulfilling because content is saved for Q4
It's very frustrating
"I don't play fantasy games to play humans" That's interesting. For me, the humans are the most interesting element to a fantasy setting a lot of the time.
I can def see that, my friend almost exclusively plays humans in MMOs and is my total opposite in that regard so I totally understand the demand for it.
when i started playing ESO i decided to not do the main quest and instead to . Vvardenfell, summerset, elsweyr, and im now on skyrim.
Good stuff! I like Skyrim's story a lot, really good characters in it
@@OldSaltySean1 im doing 32 or something sidequests first before i do any zone story. i only started playing 2 months ago
@@grethalia8142 If you love the lore definitely do that! I mentioned it in the video but I really love having all the side quest characters show up at the end of an expansion for some extra dialogue, it's always a nice touch for zone completionists!
@@OldSaltySean1 yeah i plan to do all or most side quests in an area before doing the zone story. its easier to level up and stuff that way
That was funny!
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we need more craglorn like areas, they could have done that easily with high isle making one island easy and the other a bit challenging
Greymoore into The Reach was one of the worst in terms of repetition. Literally the exact same plot right down to "there's some big spooky thing conveniently right under the city in Blackreach".
Yep, who could've possibly guessed that was down there!
Did bro just foresee the necrom expansion?
Don't check my ESO expansion wishlist video where I asked for the Telvanni Coast lmao
A year long getting as new content a cardgame, i dont know what they are doing there at zos but re used mount models and only cardgame as new content, are they scared we get too much fun
I beat the elsweyr story as my nord
All my characters are approximately level 47
Nice, I like the Elsweyr one a lot!
The q4 dlc has been free for active players since Murkmire as long as you owned the chapter
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe only Deadlands was given away for free, I don't believe Markarth or Dragonguard were ever given out for free unless you're talking about it being included with an ESO plus subscription.
The formula will continue and it will be another daggerfall story. Likely redguard based.
Very likely, but hoping not (the continuation part, not the Redguard part, Redguards need some love)
😂😂😂😂 nothing wrong with year long adventures, because I shouldn’t wait 12 years for a game to come out.
Not saying they should change the release schedule, just the content amigo 😂
@@OldSaltySean1 I got you. Reminded me of elder scrolls 6 for some reason! 👍
@@DovahHouse The game I'll get to play when I'm 90 in the nursing home, cant wait 😂
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